Uh-oh, despite internal storage, Xperia pro seems good candidate to replace N900...

pardon me for intruding everyone mood in Nokia event but I wish to express that isn't we choose N900 due to it's open design and function over than it is from NOKIA, I believe everyone here is not a fruit fanatic, and so we shouldn't be a NOKIA fanatic also.

What Nokia choose their path is their decision, we are the end-user and we choose what phone suites to us. Believe me that when I decide to purchase a new phone, I am torn between N900 and Desire Z, but I choose N900 due to it's open concept and functions, not because it is Nokia

So, I hope everyone please drop off the mood and cheer up, N900 not quite dead yet, it is still being supported for the time being, and everyone should remember that you can't use the phone for eternity, sooner or later N900 will die like any phone, so is the support.

Now...anyone use AMSN before

p.s. if I hurt anyone, please accept my apology

Nah, we're no Nokia Fanatic, but for N900 replacement, we're looking forward for Nokia's so called "replacement" for the so-called "testing" device, which is the N900. So, it's very disappointing that Nokia has abandon us ONCE again. We don't care who, that's why if Intel can come up with MeeGo devices, or someone can further developer/enhance Maemo and make a better device out of it, I believe those Maemo users will be glad to switch to it. The problem is, I don't see any mobile OS out there as good or can replace Maemo as of today.

Used AMSN before long ago, but too laggy that time so didn't use anymore. Never tried Video Chat, just normal chat.

there is a new version release on xmas, but seems not much people interested and didn't see any comment about it, heard MSN changing the video chat protocol causing all other MSN imitator unable to use video chat. I am really interested with MSN video chat cause over 90% people are using it. Nobody want to install skype

p.s. MSN Butterfly video chat is disabled, should be due to new MSN protocol barring it

p.p.s I think Intel will step in to produce a handphone sooner or later, just like the rest, everyone want to share a pie in handphone business, I don't think Intel will ignore it

This post has been edited by mashimarow: Feb 14 2011, 09:01 AM

Let me make something very clear,I'm not replacing my N900.I'm just looking for another up-to-date workhorse phone.

me too.... if i have the money and my wife allows it.. hhahaha...

err...
sifus....
what the diff between android n maemo?
both is open source right?

Basic difference:
Maemo : Written with C & C++
Android : Written with C,C++ & Java

Maemo is more like mobile version of desktop debian(linux OS) while Android is a real mobile focused OS.

http://appdeveloper.intel.com/en-us/blog/2...-12-alpha-exopc

Looking good.
But I'll still rate webOS based HP Slate as better 1.

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Added on February 14, 2011, 8:27 pmIntel talks Medfield: will ship in a phone and have the longest usage time

Intel hit the jackpot!
Provided they really beat ARM's power consumption,some of the manufacturers will start yo adopt Atom SOC.

Active usage up to 3 times than "regular" device...That's almost 20+ hours full blown browsing & stuff.

This post has been edited by super_evil_alien: Feb 14 2011, 08:30 PM

Put my name in the list ..thanx

I would go for Huawei's tablet.. 300 usd.. seems kinda cheap to me.. was targeting motorola xoom, but too expensive..
And... no full source code for the N900 huh?

Oh yeah i realised one thing..
When u flash both the emmc and rootfs, some settings are not deleted.
For example after i flash the rootfs and emmc, when i redownload the FM widget button, it is automatically set to 100.8 which is my setting before reflashing
Anyone knows why?

suddenly got a wild thought, if we can link to wifi network, connect to LAN, is it possible to send document to network printer for printing

@mashimarow: yeps, you can use easydebian and CUPS. But must print with OpenOffice under easydebian lar. Last time it was lidat anyway.

Anyhow, last call for these people in BULK 2. Haiyoo, next time I ask for payment straight when ordering lar, sigh. Very difficult to collect payment sometimes.

1) radz0 x 2 units
2) XiuKeong
3) deanja92

And with multitasking coming to WP7 soon, it's not as bad as before really. The only problem now is making sure the ecosystem thrives.

Shame the multitasking view is gonna be WebOS style. Cards are fine for the average multitasker, but expose panes (like the N900 and iPhone multifl0w) is the only real way to go for hard core multi-runners. Even simple icon switchers like the one on S60 + JBakTaskman is better then cards for hard use really.

But if Nokia gives up the full source code for the N900, I WILL BUY ANOTHER ONE. Only God knows what them hackers can do with it then.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Feb 15 2011, 07:00 PM

Is there hope for n900 using myriad alien dalvik?

Its practically an emulator to run android apps....

google it seems like opening doors for n900

@sifu eiraku. i think with you we can do wonders too.. im still wondering on how to edit and add stuffs in n900 status menu

i want maemo on this

http://www.engadget.com/photos/htc-flyer-first-hands-on/

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Added on February 15, 2011, 10:13 pmthis also i like.... just imagine it running maemo on display with such high res - 1024 x 480


http://www.engadget.com/photos/acer-iconia...nds-on/#3880266

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Added on February 15, 2011, 10:14 pmsomehow Android seems underpowered and clunky for such powerful devices.

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Added on February 15, 2011, 10:20 pmi just hope microsoft plays nice with nokia and really allows the platform to grow.

and lets hope the web browser is not going to be only IE9 mobile...

but no platform can be as open as maemo/meego....

most apps on windows phone 7 is going to be paid apps. its micro$oft for crying out loud.

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Added on February 15, 2011, 10:23 pmthe MWC looks more like Android Convention. tosn of Android related stuff...

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Added on February 15, 2011, 10:24 pmin a way, I am glad nokia did not choose Android... its sickening.

This post has been edited by jananan: Feb 15 2011, 10:24 PM

well.... it may be sickening.. but now its either the $ickening or the Sickeningly free stuff... and more open...

After spending about 50% the cost of my telefonsaya on paid apps from the official kedai and kedai kupu2, I'd say I really don't mind unfree stuff as long as it's quality stuff.

I mean I love open and free (as in speech) as much as the next person. But as long as it comes with a viably healthy software ecosystem. I mean, yeah apps are quickly becoming a joke - as band aids to cover an OSes shortcomings (which admittedly, iOS has a helluva lot of), but people don't buy smartphones just to do stuff on the stock programs. I at least buy smartphones looking to enhance it's capabilities with interchangeable modular blocks to suit my needs at any given time.

And while hardware blocks are hard to accomplish (see Modu and it's consequent death) software modules are easier to implement. Thus this is the single greatest strength of the "an app for everything" mentality. Only problem is, at least for iOS, Encik Kerja locked down the frigging core software and disallowed other apps to fill their place.

The other problem with an overly healthy software ecosystem is the percentage of quality stuff goes down a bit as everybody rushes to make a quick buck over a new trend every time - creating a sea of shitty apps you have to swim through to get to that one single good one.

But a lot of choice is always better then less choice (when it comes to apps anyway). Which is ironic coming from a person using the platform that allows for the least freedom of choice here lol (the locked garden of Steve and his merry band of thieves).

And unless Google/Microsoft is planning to bring their "Official" paid stores over here, there's really not much choice coming from the other camps either, eh? Yeah, anybody can root for the paid market but that just makes the whole discussion invalid (pecahpenjara solves a helluva lot of issues really).

So to the Googster and Michealsoft -> more frigging good paid apps for the love of God. Make offers to devs. Bend your arses. Anything to ensure you get more premium apps that PEOPLE WOULD FEEL IT'S WORTH MONEY TO SPEND ON.

And no, this isn't a "telefonsaya lebih best dari telefonanda" post. It's just a long rant from someone who really wants to go to other platforms but have yet to see a good reason to. And really, I can write a whole long rant about the shortcomings of telefonsaya but let's keep that for another day, shall we?

The best platform for me would be Maemo/Meego with better power management and a healthier software ecosystem, but Nokia (may God's wrath be upon them) just peed and shat on and buried that dream deep in the ground.



This post has been edited by Eiraku: Feb 16 2011, 01:28 AM

aiseh who remove my name from the list? or was it never in there?

as for the USB cable sales - please DO NOT do it here.

Sorry man, need to round up some folks, that's all. Last ditch after PMs bore no fruit.

Will keep it back in Garage afterwards. Sigh.

Do try easy debian.The installing part may be a bit messy but it'll very2 helpful with extra functions.

The dalvik haven't been fully released.
Of course if Myriad release it people can expect Android apps in Maemo within 1 hour.

Yeah,I'm serious sh*t on the 1 hour part.Maemo nerds is really fast in delivering stuff providing they have all the "tools".
Example case is when MuhammadAG suggesting the app to desaturate instead or bluring while multitasking.It was delivered in few hours.

Ah well...We can only dream of it.Nokia is hell bend on not releasing Maemo's full code.

Also,Steve Balmer can use whatever fancy words or videos to show off IE9(WP7 version) capability but it's remains as crappy browser.Let's leave flash aside,what kind of dumb@$$ manufacturer don't include their own plugin stuff in their own browser?IE9 won't have Silverlight support also

Sometimes I wonder why these OS owners don't bother to make their Application sites open worldwide.It's kinda pointless & unfair for them to concentrate on certain market 1st.

OVI Store seems ok but not much great apps compared to iOS.

Agreed on the too many rubbish apps in epal's kedai.

I don't know whether God even care about Nokia but the stockmarket sure don't.Nokia's share keep going down like car with a loose brake.

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Well,technically he's not selling.He's only reminding the people who ordered to pay up.

@Eiraku
Better just PM them.This is what I did the last time I did bulking.

All the major OEM's already unveiled their cards in MWC but for me there is no suitable phone for me
Back to waiting game...
Come on guys...It is really hard to make a qwerty based smartphone?

This post has been edited by super_evil_alien: Feb 16 2011, 02:25 AM