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 Nokia N900 V10 (Close to 200 owners), New CSSU Update 07/09/2011

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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Feb 12 2011, 10:29 AM)
It's not about cool factor.I think given due time & resource MeeGo's core functions & UX could be one of the best in market.
Ah well...Enough about Nokia's WP7 for me.1 day of sleepless night about this is enough.
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This is really bad..... really bad.... mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif
Why Win7 of all..... I guess we already knew it was coming when Elop took over....
WebOS looks great but the device design is a big turn off; What device to go for next? HP needs a good device designer...


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post Feb 12 2011, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Feb 12 2011, 11:16 AM)
Nokia just made their future out of their hand.No OS under their control(Symbian phased out,MeeGo development reduced to almost nothing).If Microsoft stalled with WP7 Nokia might have to pour high amount of resource to take over the OS to develop it.Mr Elop might say Telco Operator might like the Nokia + Microsoft partnership but it's ultimately the end users who will decide their choice of device.Looking at the reception from regular users & the stock market,it's looking bad.Also Elop just leveraged Nokia's most prized stuff,the patents.With this deal Microsoft could probably make other OEM to access these pattens for FREE.After years of protracting the pattens you leveraged it to a half @$$ed OS?Nokia Maps will be used by Microsoft for free too.

I do think somehow Nokia will sell quite a number of WP7 device but I sure the figure will fell a lot shorter than what Nokia expected.

I think after few years Microsoft can attempt to buy Nokia for lower price.Already market share dropped more than 14% yesterday.

Almost all the Maemo/MeeGo leaders have resigned from Nokia.It'll be very hard to make progress with a open source OS in Nokia after this.

If Nokia want a fighting chance,they better ask Microsoft to buck up & ingrate some of the regular functions in WP7.
No copy paste,bluetooth file transfer,mass storage support,etc2.Even symbian can do all these.
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Sadly, no interest in WP7 UI design or overall OS design. If need to jump ship, better go Android plus the upcoming devices will have crazy specs. Would prefer WebOS but the device outlook kills it, BUT THEN, if the choice is between WP7 device and WebOS device, I might still go for WebOS device...... wait a minute, bah, better stick to N900. tongue.gif

If only there is a better spec device able to support Maemo, and the full source code release and maintain by somebody, improves it, adds more functionality/features. It'll be something special, but then, that's too far fetch.

Not to say I dislike MS, but if they were to make a smartphone device, try making a real smartphone with real OS; Previously, I remember there is a smartphone by some unknown company planning to launch a smartphone running full Windows XP.

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post Feb 13 2011, 02:00 AM

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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Feb 12 2011, 05:13 PM)
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I think I had enough time being Nokia's genuine pig.
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I was kind of interested in the Droid/Milestone 2, but there isn't much improvements in terms of hardware over the Droid/Milestone 1. It's the closest thing to N900 design. Sadly, there isn't much good spec qwerty Android device around; For HTC/Samsung, the high end models doesn't have qwerty.
Can't stand using phones without qwerty keyboard, ESPECIALLY if it's capacitive touch screen, even on a 4" screen. With the N900, I've been online in MSN through N900, chatting with long message for sometime about phones, he was in total shock to know I have been typing all the messages through the N900.
Some people I know that SMS A LOT, I mean A LOT, I warned them about using touch screen devices without qwerty keyboard, they don't believe me or maybe they're too obsessed with the phone/brand, like a Fashion, must have. Ended up suffering typing even simple SMS.


ANYWAY, before LG/Samsung announces the dual-core devices, Motorola already hinted about it even before the Droid 2 as launch; I though the Droid 2 would have dual-core, but sadly no; Let's hope there will be good spec device with nice design + nice qwerty keyboard for Android. Droid/Milestone 3 perhaps? tongue.gif


QUOTE(jananan @ Feb 12 2011, 09:01 PM)
Seriously, what Maemo needs is just a modern qwerty device with dual core ARM processor, some decent graphics acceleration, more RAM bigger screen with capacitive touch maybe.

on the software side, some latest fixes, more bug fixing, some parts ported over from meego, newer version of microB, flash 10.1

who needs that Windows Phone 7 crap.

i have used that rubbish before - in the form of Windows Mobile 6.5 or some crap like that.

1) multitasking ? what ?

2) performance hog

3) battery life is like shit

4) no groundbreaking apps

5) i think iOS has somewhat better interface

6) even better, no copy paste

7) web browser on that thing sucks


Added on February 12, 2011, 9:25 pm
that line above reminds me of another OS from a fruit company.

it looks like the human civilization is crumbling. instead of upgrading we are downgrading.


Added on February 12, 2011, 9:32 pmi remember those day, migrating from pocket pc > windows mobile > symbian

it was like coming out of the stone age, now back to stone age.
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Absolutely! If only they come up with a better device for Maemo; Even with current specs, it's already so good, but limited by it's hardware; As for the software part, that would need full source code release and those hardcore supporters/team to polish it. Such good and unique OS, being abandon just like that, yet it still survives and got many developers which keeps adding functionality to it. It lives because of those supporters.

Going WP7 is a BIG nono, but what to do, it's the NEW CEO.
Previously, when Maemo is being dropped for MeeGo, there're people who were supporting/requesting/hoping/etc that Nokia to adapt Android. They could add Android into their line of devices and still continues to develop MeeGo. I think that could probably save Nokia like a lot? If they did, they might also drop the idea of Symbian^3 OR take more time to completely rebuild Symbian OS "properly"; Plus, they could've also adopt their Qt into Android.
Now, don't know what the future holds.


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post Feb 13 2011, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(hengguowei @ Feb 13 2011, 08:55 PM)
Desire Z? smile.gif
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Yup, saw that, DHD spec is much better, my bro got it.

No rush, let's see if there's any interesting Andoid device with qwerty keyboard + crazy specs... 1GB RAM? brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif
The DHD already have 768MB, last year model, this year, we should be seeing more improvements this year.

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post Feb 14 2011, 08:07 AM

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QUOTE(mashimarow @ Feb 14 2011, 07:35 AM)
pardon me for intruding everyone mood in Nokia event but I wish to express that isn't we choose N900 due to it's open design and function over than it is from NOKIA, I believe everyone here is not a fruit fanatic, and so we shouldn't be a NOKIA fanatic also.

What Nokia choose their path is their decision, we are the end-user and we choose what phone suites to us.  Believe me that when I decide to purchase a new phone, I am torn between N900 and Desire Z, but I choose N900 due to it's open concept and functions, not because it is Nokia

So, I hope everyone please drop off the mood and cheer up, N900 not quite dead yet, it is still being supported for the time being, and everyone should remember that you can't use the phone for eternity, sooner or later N900 will die like any phone, so is the support.

Now...anyone use AMSN before tongue.gif

p.s. if I hurt anyone, please accept my apology notworthy.gif
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Nah, we're no Nokia Fanatic, but for N900 replacement, we're looking forward for Nokia's so called "replacement" for the so-called "testing" device, which is the N900. So, it's very disappointing that Nokia has abandon us ONCE again. We don't care who, that's why if Intel can come up with MeeGo devices, or someone can further developer/enhance Maemo and make a better device out of it, I believe those Maemo users will be glad to switch to it. The problem is, I don't see any mobile OS out there as good or can replace Maemo as of today.

Used AMSN before long ago, but too laggy that time so didn't use anymore. Never tried Video Chat, just normal chat.

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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Feb 16 2011, 06:13 PM)
The  I9100 Galaxy S II smartphone does look hot. Making me dripping saliva eh dual core and a 4.3 inch screen OMFG


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Yea, everything is good except... no physical keyboard!
LG Optimus 3D looks great too, can view 3D without 3D glasses! Can see the demo on YouTube, pretty cool~

There's one alternative option tough... SONY Xperia Pro... but the spec is just so-so, and the Xperia Play looks much more tempting but no physical keyboard cry.gif

Waiting for Moto.....

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post Feb 17 2011, 12:40 AM

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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Feb 17 2011, 12:18 AM)
Moto tarak qwerty also.Already checked all leaked upcoming phones.
There is Droid 2 but single core processor sad.gif
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Moto did announce last year they will introduce dual core this year. That was the first time I heard about dual core on smartphones! But turn out, LG and Samseng come out first... as usual...

Let's see if there's Droid 3 with dual core + Adreno 205 GPU, or better. Plus, next year, there is quad core sweat.gif
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QUOTE(mashimarow @ Feb 17 2011, 01:48 PM)
Am I miss informed or my phone got problem, N900 unable to read gif file?
Not actually cannot read...I can force it to open using file manager, but the gif is not animated, in All Image, it is a broken thumbernail and unable to click open.
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Yes, it cannot render GIF file.

If we can open it via browser, then it should be able to render it. Or maybe 3rd party image viewer application.

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QUOTE(solsekuin44 @ Feb 19 2011, 07:57 AM)
Nope, I already uninstalled fMMS for quite some time.
With the 3g/2g selection applet, there are three options right? DUAL, GSM and 3G.

I chose GSM.

But let's say if I choose 3G or Dual, can I still be charged for data usage? So confusing unsure.gif


Added on February 19, 2011, 8:01 am
I always make sure to be connected only to wifi (P1 Wimax at my aunt's house or school's).
But when I called Maxis operator, he said that, even though I chose wifi, if let's say it gets disconnected, the phone will automatically switch to 3G, which made me doubt it.
Maxis operator really knows or just simply say it to me?
Yes, I set it to always ask right from the beginning. smile.gif
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That selection is just your network mode selection, it is NOT connect to internet/data. It's just the TYPE of network you want.
GSM - 2G, 2.5G (your internet/data speed is limited up to 2.5G if available)
3G - 3G, 3.5G (your internet/data speed can go up to 3.5G if available)

In GSM mode, if there is a call, it may interrupt your internet/data usage, OR the call will not get through.


You will only be charge data usage IF you connect to the Internet.
In your Settings-->Internet Connection, you can choose your options:
Connect Automatically --> Always Ask.

When it want to connect, it will prompt you, it won't auto connect.
OR you can choose; Connect Automatically --> WLAN.
When your WLAN disconnected, it will NOT ask you to use your data.

I believe the Maxis operator are not familiar with Maemo OS;

I'm not sure about other OS. As for Symbian, the first time you use, you can set the same thing "Always Ask", BUT, there is ONE major flaw? in Symbian, whenever it want to use the data, it will prompt you with 2 options:
1. Connect automatically.
2. Connect this time.

IF I'm not wrong:
IF you accidentally choose "Connect Automatically", it will overwrite your preference.... and it will connect automatically everytime. You have to disable it again from the settings. Kinda stupid?

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QUOTE(Dark_Angel85 @ Feb 22 2011, 04:05 PM)
CSSU now officially with portrait mode options. even in the applications launcher..

It basically portraits everything. Still a bit buggy at the moment but VERY promising...

Even rotating around the z axis promised by thp. I don't use that cause I prefer instant effects instead of fluid UI
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Except the Desktop; It can't work in Portrait mode unless it's a separate Desktop configuration because of the flexible desktop design. In order to allow Portrait and Landscape orientation like Symbian, the widgets, buttons, need to be place inside a container or box, or fix sized, so that when it rotate to Portrait mode, it can re-arrange all the containers/box/buttons vertically, where as in Landscape mode, it will expand and re-arrange, just like Symbian.

I would not want to loose the flexible Desktop, which is why it's called Desktop just like our Windows Desktop, the orientation is also in landscape mode. BUT, they could always make it as an option, instead of being Apple like, only give you 1 choice tongue.gif

Still the CSSU might consume more memory and cause the device to lags more, especially for those whom already have laggy device after jam-pack it with widgets on Desktop. The device crave for more memory and power.

On a side note, I tested the Mozart at DiGi centre; it's smooth and fast, like iOS, but very plain and simple, the calendar is just plain 2D white with simple table and black font, while Maemo looks way cooler, futuristic with nice gradient blue, etc. Nonetheless, the fluidity and smoothness is nice. Heard multi-tasking, copy-and-paste, IE9 mobile is coming this year, but multi-tasking might be something like iOS as they said something about "controlling" to prevent over usage of battery; Control is one thing, always allow options for advance users, is another thing.
Wondering about Flash, as the mobile IE doesn't support Active-X plugin due to security reasons? But Adobe announce there will be Flash for Windows Phone 7? hmm.gif

I also tested the HTC Desire HD, not sure why, it's so darn laggy and actually hang/stop responding, maybe too many apps open or memory usage too high? hmm.gif Give up touching it back to Mozart.



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QUOTE(Dark_Angel85 @ Feb 22 2011, 09:39 PM)
I agree in all that you have said. It's not the best thing so far, it does consume lots of battery at the moment, it is kind of buggy, and probably not the best portrait mode at the moment. It's still a major breakthrough though. I'm sure we'll see a more fixed version of it. Right now, even holding the phone in portrait consumes CPU.... I'm personally not 100% going to use this first due to the consumption... but conceptually very intriguing to me.

About other phones.... well, you always hear people talking about compromising something to get fluidity and like kick-ass UI. The one thing I'm NOT willing to compromise which I'm so pampered by the n900 is FLEXIBILITY - as you have mentioned very well already.
Yes. Even before this. Now it's just more fluid. Your conversations can autorotate when launched
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True, the flexibility~
The best is, we have a choice, we can customize to make it complicated and useful, or keep it simple so it's smooth, etc. But, usually, we would want to utilize and very much customize it biggrin.gif

Regarding portrait mode, many apps have portrait mode, but you can have option to turn it on or off, that's the beauty, CHOICE for users, especially for people who don't have the rotation.
Some apps, I turn off the auto-orientation because it's quite annoying when it rotates, still prefer landscape view most of the time, and sometimes, when the phone is laggy, the auto-orientation can be quite problematic. Luckily, we have a choice =)

If only we can upgrade the hardware on this device.....
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QUOTE(ShrugsLova @ Mar 2 2011, 06:30 PM)
i think no..
but seriously the default bluetooth that N900 has really making me crazy at times..
i was receiving some songs from my colleague while driving, but i have to receive the song one by one.
cant i receive in a group or folder?
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Yea... troublesome, picture is worst, it will prompt twice:
1. Save & Option to open Picture after receive (default checked)
2. Save To Location & filename

Never transferred songs, did it ask prompt you want to play the song after receive?

Once I transfer many pictures in bulk, then half way, I touch somewhere when it prompt me to save, so it cancelled ALL the remaining picture waiting to be send.


QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Mar 2 2011, 10:10 PM)
Guys interested for a gathering.

Food and prizes will be sponsor by Nokia. Main focus Photography. Most probably in April 2011 within KL area
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GrandMaster SHIFU,

Now you're event organizer for Nokia also? WOW!
For N900 only or all Nokia devices?

EDIT: Not April 1st right? tongue.gif

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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Mar 3 2011, 02:28 PM)
Yeap as long as its taken by Nokia phone and unedited is entitled to join. It will be based on the theme of the day. Prizes yet to be confirm.

The event is confirmed but just the date need some info to confirm so standby. Interested party can start giving me names.
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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Mar 29 2011, 06:42 PM)
Yeah she is not the only female forumer using Nokia N900 there few other more they have pm me before requesting some assistance.

Atm i am still using my Nokia N900 still love the UI.
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Yea, one of it was the admin of the forum.

For me, I still can a proper replacement for the N900... in terms of OS as well as design of the device with qwerty keyboard...
Saw rumour leak pics of Motorola Droid 3, said to have dual core processor (hopefully it will be Tegra2)... If it's true, then it might be a good "replacement" or probably replace the N8 instead... tongue.gif

As for MeeGo.............. let's see.....
For WP7........ the OS seems smooth, let's see how it performs when it gets multi-tasking and wonder how will the multi-tasking be....... But, there's still no Flash... hm...... and finally, typing behaviour on WP7 seems a bit difficult and awkward.

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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Mar 29 2011, 10:05 PM)
Just they are less active. I think i gonna send my N900 in before the warranty expire. March 2011 is the last wu wu wu. Here i come NCC request them to change entire casing WAKAKA.
Lets hope the WP7 is worthy it but the good part for Nokia phones to run WP7 their processor must be high. Everyone fed up low end processor already. Sifu andy 17th April 2011 u coming right?

Need submit namelist to Nokia di lol
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Mine already over 1 year, hehe; Just not sure when my battery will give way since I really use it heavily.

April 17? I didn't know about it wor? But since still early should be ok.

QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Mar 29 2011, 11:46 PM)
Oh, posted in N8 forum; Ok, luckily I saw it early, haha tongue.gif
What time end? What's the agenda? Where to meet, etc?
Will you send us emails on the details?

Thanks for your hardwork!

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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Mar 30 2011, 09:06 AM)
awww what a waste. Nvm its only a one time event. My sundays are all booked too but i just make time for it because always believe that knowledge is power and when you do not know the existence of it you will never understand it.Its full already anyway need to limit to limited users.

Get this idea we all have to go to school then college and Uni then work but you notice they do not teach you the shortcut or the entire structure of it. They only give u a basic guidelines. For this event you will learn a knowledge thats will be summarize in 3 years into one day.
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Sifu,

Any agenda for the 17th? and where to meet, the event until what time?

e.g.
10:00AM~10:30AM: Gather & Meet @ X location
10:30AM~12:00PM: Activity X
12:00PM~2:00PM: Lunch?
etc...

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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Mar 30 2011, 12:41 PM)
still preparing will update u soon lol. Agenda completed now pending confirmation due to location and organising

Time about 3 or 4 but depending most probably i will continue my shots in PCFAIR so who's up for it can continue lol
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QUOTE(mashimarow @ Apr 15 2011, 07:24 PM)
Anyone can answer my msn problem? icon_question.gif
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What problem?

I'm using MSN (Pecan); suddenly it unable to connect anymore, keep getting Network Error problem. Even I uninstall and reinstall; Give up already, lazy to "debug" this thing already.
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QUOTE(mashimarow @ Apr 16 2011, 05:54 AM)
pecan not working at the moment due to login protocal change again, creator of pecan is finding way now but I can't wait forever.  Heard haze still working, I don't want to uninstall pecan and will it crash if I install haze making 2 running msn program
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No need to uninstall, you can disable the account. Before Pecan, I was using Haze, but Haze have frequent "network error" problem which requires restart to resolve the issue, so I switch to Pecan.
Guess now have to switch back to Haze...
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QUOTE(sosot000 @ Apr 20 2011, 01:39 PM)
if using fcamera, how to take HDR picture? i tried but it gave me several picture which do not combine yet.....hmm.gif icon_question.gif
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There's 2 more app:
1. HDR app
2. LowLight app

This 2 app requires FCam drivers installed.


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