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post Mar 21 2011, 02:58 AM

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QUOTE(2ack @ Mar 19 2011, 07:47 PM)
guys,my wife is going to brunei.so when she came back about two month later,i wanted to buy her a watch.but my budget only allows me from 10-15k MAX.i know its not much to have a boarder choices but thats the only money i can spend on watch.top up a bit can but not to much.so please tell me what brand can i buy for 10-15k max?can i buy a cartier or chopard with that kind of money?tq notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif.

and one more thing,if u guys can suggest which website is reliable for buying women watches,that would really help cause i know its a bargain to buy for urself then buying it from the store.tq so much notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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holy crap
15k for a watch
your wife is a lucky women my friend rclxms.gif
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post Mar 21 2011, 08:49 AM

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News from http://forums.watchuseek.com/f8/uhr-going-...ion-518721.html

Uhr is going to launch a 7751 chrono with moon phase indication
for 799 Euro - price for us is ~RM$3050

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QUOTE(hanz079 @ Mar 18 2011, 02:27 PM)
most of these are on liaoning movements. lets hope the quality isn't like these!

can tell which is swiss made and which China made?
http://forums.watchuseek.com/f72/claro-sem...own-312588.html
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post Mar 21 2011, 12:25 PM

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Actually, what you get is normally what you paid for.
If you wanna save and get Chinese watches, be prepared and not expect swiss quality...
But I am impressed with the China made....clone?
Everything is a copy except the finishing...

This post has been edited by hanz079: Mar 21 2011, 01:10 PM
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post Mar 21 2011, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(hanz079 @ Mar 21 2011, 12:25 PM)
Actually, what you get is normally what you paid for.
If you wanna save and get Chinese watches, be prepared and not expect swiss quality...
But I am impressed with the China made....clone?
Everything is a copy except the finishing...
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Um... original copies from China comes in many different grade i understand, those u find in Sungei Wang/petalign street for RM150 omega seems to be the lower grades. Those "replica" costing upto ~RM1k is more liek grade AA and hard to tell the difference for the untrained eyes. Anyone have experienced with such higher quality replicas?

(I know of a friend who got some LV replicas bags costing about 30% of real LV for his wife from korea, even the LV store sales girl in KL is hard pressed to tell the difference...)
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post Mar 21 2011, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Mar 21 2011, 03:29 PM)
Um... original copies from China comes in many different grade i understand, those u find in Sungei Wang/petalign street for RM150 omega seems to be the lower grades. Those "replica" costing upto ~RM1k is more liek grade AA and hard to tell the difference for the untrained eyes. Anyone have experienced with such higher quality replicas?

(I know of a friend who got some LV replicas bags costing about 30% of real LV for his wife from korea, even the LV store sales girl in KL is hard pressed to tell the difference...)
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Sorry bro, we are talking about Chinese made or homage watches.
We do not discuss replica/grade AAA here.
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QUOTE(ck77 @ Mar 21 2011, 03:35 PM)
Sorry bro, we are talking about Chinese made or homage watches.
We do not discuss replica/grade AAA here.
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Oops me bad. Actually i'm interested in getting genuine chinese made watches, espeically any with more unique movements. But there are too many badly made imitation out there I dare nto take the plunge..
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Mar 21 2011, 03:50 PM)
Oops me bad. Actually i'm interested in getting genuine chinese made watches, espeically any with more unique movements. But there are too many badly made imitation out there I dare nto take the plunge..
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No worries smile.gif
http://forums.watchuseek.com/f72/seagull-1...tly-420653.html
http://www.malaysiawatchforum.com/index.ph...pic,1913.0.html
Original Seagull Airforce 1963 Reissue.
PM me if interested.

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i wonder if Alexandre Christie's watch is worth the buck?
was planning to get 1 since i like the design ...
( getting for a friend of mine )

and where could i get my hand on 1 of these?
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QUOTE(hitokai @ Mar 21 2011, 04:45 PM)
i wonder if Alexandre Christie's watch is worth the buck?
was planning to get 1 since i like the design ...
( getting for a friend of mine )

and where could i get my hand on 1 of these?
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Never heard of it, some info here,
http://forums.watchuseek.com/f71/alexandre...hes-190992.html
http://forums.watchuseek.com/f2/alexandre-...and-428117.html

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post Mar 21 2011, 07:52 PM

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QUOTE(hanz079 @ Mar 21 2011, 02:30 AM)
Sinn U1 is a good and tough watch yeah... but it also builts like a tank with the 44mm case and 15-17mm height... not really subtle.
Damasko on the other hand have smaller watches measuring 40-42mm... the design is simple and highly legible, can wear beneath shirt sleeves...
Different watch for different occasion maybe?
Ahhhh... tell u the truth, when we want something, we can come up with a million reasons... bottom line is... I want it?  cool2.gif
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spoken like a true Watch infected patient..hehehehe

i was once obsessed with the yellow second hands of the 37....managed to cure it....so now very careful....hahahaha!

you'll never know..these viruses can stay latent and suddenly appear!


Always loved the IWC Pilot Chronograph....almost went for the Steinhart homage..but managed to cure it......i think if Stowa were to come up with a similar design, then no cure for me...hahahaha!

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QUOTE(hanz079 @ Mar 21 2011, 12:25 PM)
Actually, what you get is normally what you paid for.
If you wanna save and get Chinese watches, be prepared and not expect swiss quality...
But I am impressed with the China made....clone?
Everything is a copy except the finishing...
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Mar 21 2011, 03:29 PM)
Um... original copies from China comes in many different grade i understand, those u find in Sungei Wang/petalign street for RM150 omega seems to be the lower grades. Those "replica" costing upto ~RM1k is more liek grade AA and hard to tell the difference for the untrained eyes. Anyone have experienced with such higher quality replicas?

(I know of a friend who got some LV replicas bags costing about 30% of real LV for his wife from korea, even the LV store sales girl in KL is hard pressed to tell the difference...)
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guys! U ppl really need to on the link before jumping into conclusion.
The post is on Claro-Semag CL-888 (Swiss Legend watch) versus Sea-Gull ST16 (Seagull Watch).
Claro-Semag is a clone of the China Seagull movement. We are not talking China copying swiss, it is Swiss copying China!

Seagull watch still have replica?
its is really OMG! sweat.gif
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post Mar 21 2011, 08:59 PM

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Hi folks. Am new to this thread and have been lapping up all the info here apart from those posted on WUS. My eyes are set on these:

1. Mido Commander - Gent - 37 mm M8419.4.51.8 (ETA 2836-2)

2. Mido Baroncelli Power Reserve 42 mm M8605.4.11.8 (ETA 2897)

Beginning to see 'watches' spinning around after sifting through v1 & v2 of the watches thread...plus the luxury watches thread!

@nando Still obsessed with power reserve models? Which AD was it that you recommended to llk, here?

Will have to pick either one of the above watches as I have other commitments. Still saving up for it...no great hurry, unless the price is going to skyrocket tomorrow!

I do like the Power Reserve model a lot more, it was love at first sight and I am pretty sure I won't get tired of it - but the Commander is equally nice and with a much lower price tag! Improved ETA 2824 (ETA 2836) vs ETA 2892 with power reserve display (ETA 2897) as per patryn33's post below?

patryn33's Post #2416 is here.
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whats the pt of using a ETA 2836 since there isn't day date display?
the diff btw ETA 2836 and 2824 is the day. ETA 2824 don't have day.
2836 belong to the same family as 2824.
ETA 289X series then is a upgrade from 2824 family.


Interesting thread here.

BTW, watch is intended for daily wear - have not worn a watch since 2002 when I was robbed off my Seiko 5! Please feel free to air your comments on the 2 models above.

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post Mar 21 2011, 09:12 PM

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QUOTE(wshoh @ Mar 21 2011, 08:59 PM)
Hi folks. Am new to this thread and have been lapping up all the info here apart from those posted on WUS. My eyes are set on these:

1. Mido Commander - Gent - 37 mm M8419.4.51.8 (ETA 2836-2)

2. Mido Baroncelli Power Reserve (ETA 2897)

Beginning to see 'watches' spinning around after sifting through v1 & v2 of the watches thread...plus the luxury watches thread!

@nando Still obsessed with power reserve models? Which AD was it that you recommended to llk, here?

Will have to pick either one of the above watches as I have other commitments. Still saving up for it...no great hurry, unless the price is going to skyrocket tomorrow!

I do like the Power Reserve model a lot more, it was love at first sight and I am pretty sure I won't get tired of it - but the Commander is equally nice and with a much lower price tag! Improved ETA 2824 (ETA 2836) vs ETA 2892 with power reserve display (ETA 2897) as per patryn33's post below?

patryn33's post is here.
Interesting thread here.

BTW, watch is intended for daily wear - have not worn a watch since 2002 when I was robbed off my Seiko 5! Please feel free to air your comments on the 2 models above.
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hi mate...you've gone through a long journey browsing through all those pages havent you? dont worries....super experts like patryn and ck77 will provide excellent tips for you...

no..i came out of my PR display craze..... i think I will get bored with it pretty soon, especially the type where the dial is plain and then you have a PR display. Just like the Mido you showed (no offense, just me). Longines also have something similar. so i concluded that it was an impulse thing....
Having said that, PR display looks good in higher end complications but i guess not many people can afford those...

speaking of Mido, i now fancy something like this...
http://www.mido.my/en/node/2113

more complications, more interesting i guess..hahahahaha but havent really check out the pricing yet....

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QUOTE(patryn33 @ Mar 21 2011, 08:33 PM)
guys! U ppl really need to on the link before jumping into conclusion.
The post is on Claro-Semag CL-888 (Swiss Legend watch) versus Sea-Gull ST16 (Seagull Watch).
Claro-Semag is a clone of the China Seagull movement. We are not talking China copying swiss, it is Swiss copying China!

Seagull watch still have replica?
its is really OMG! sweat.gif
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My bad... sorry sweat.gif


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QUOTE(nando @ Mar 21 2011, 07:52 PM)
spoken like a true Watch infected patient..hehehehe

i was once obsessed with the yellow second hands of the 37....managed to cure it....so now very careful....hahahaha!

you'll never know..these viruses can stay latent and suddenly appear!
Always loved the IWC Pilot Chronograph....almost went for the Steinhart homage..but managed to cure it......i think if Stowa were to come up with a similar design, then no cure for me...hahahaha!
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Yabah... the last time I bought a watch was way back in 2008... then I got busy with work and family and kids...
Then when I got my bonus this year, I was like... Hmmm... maybe it's time I buy myself a new watch... stumble upon this thread, suggestions, pointers, advice... the whole nine yards...
Then I find myself kena poison badly...
Everything I see, I want... rclxub.gif
Then I slowed down abit, got rid of some excesses... now I pick properly what I want.
For the Damasko, same as you la, yellow sweeping hands... OMG!! Gotta have that... but the lume dial is pretty cool too... rotatable bezel?? Want or not ar? Aarrrrgghhh!!! vmad.gif
But one thing for sure, I WILL get myself a minute repeater watch... come high hell or water... IT WILL BE MINE SOMEDAY!!! brows.gif

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post Mar 22 2011, 07:27 AM

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QUOTE(wshoh @ Mar 21 2011, 08:59 PM)
Hi folks. Am new to this thread and have been lapping up all the info here apart from those posted on WUS. My eyes are set on these:

1. Mido Commander - Gent - 37 mm M8419.4.51.8 (ETA 2836-2)

2. Mido Baroncelli Power Reserve (ETA 2897)
Mido used alot of Top grade movements.
Any idea what is the price of the above watches locally?

Here is a Msia online store prices
http://www.orolus.com/cgi-bin/ShoppingCart...celli+Gent+Hand


QUOTE(nando @ Mar 21 2011, 09:12 PM)
speaking of Mido, i now fancy something like this...
http://www.mido.my/en/node/2113

more complications, more interesting i guess..hahahahaha  but havent really check out the pricing yet....
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rose gold, my guess is around US$3K. The all dial steel complication is already selling at US$2.4k in grey.
get a UHR (posted a page or 2 eariler) on same movement maybe 1 grade lower the cost is at EUR$710 or ~US$1K.

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Laco/stowa consider homage??sry for noob ques
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QUOTE(Xp3rT @ Mar 22 2011, 09:50 AM)
Laco/stowa consider homage??sry for noob ques
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Laco, Stowa is watchmaker with long history, not homage.
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QUOTE(nando @ Mar 21 2011, 09:12 PM)
hi mate...you've gone through a long journey browsing through all those pages havent you? dont worries....super experts like patryn and ck77 will provide excellent tips for you...

no..i came out of my PR display craze.....  i think I will get bored with it pretty soon, especially the type where the dial is plain and then you have a PR display.  Just like the Mido you showed (no offense, just me).  Longines also have something similar.  so i concluded that it was an impulse thing....
Having said that, PR display looks good in higher end complications but i guess not many people can afford those...

speaking of Mido, i now fancy something like this...
http://www.mido.my/en/node/2113

more complications, more interesting i guess..hahahahaha  but havent really check out the pricing yet....
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@nando Thanks for the PM. Yeah, sure was a long read. ck77 and patryn33 are indeed the experts here - very grateful for the many insights over the posts.

Have seen the Mido Moonphase (1321 base ETA Valjoux 7751) and agree that it is a very nice watch. In fact, stumbled upon this which was posted in the forum here earlier which convinced me that a Mido is probably most suitable as a beginner piece, for me. As they say, taste is subjective and we are all really only limited by monetary considerations! Needless to say, more complications, more moolah. Hmm...currently still steadfast with my inclination over plain dial with PR. This thread is 'poisonous' biggrin.gif

I guess I am the type who would rather have one quality timepiece than a dozen like-but-don't-like-it-enough-to-buy pieces. Not ready yet for Rolex-grade watches and definitely won't go for a Lo-Lex tongue.gif

QUOTE(patryn33 @ Mar 22 2011, 07:27 AM)
Mido used alot of Top grade movements.
Any idea what is the price of the above watches locally?

Here is a Msia online store prices
http://www.orolus.com/cgi-bin/ShoppingCart...celli+Gent+Hand
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@patryn33 Thanks for the link to the online store. Indeed mostly top grade movements for Mido and all reviews/comments confirm the same. Was first introduced to the Mido brand by an 82 year old gentleman who got it (the solid gold classical looking type) as a gift over 30 years ago - it was still running after all those years, although how well I can't tell!

The last I checked, the Mido Commander was going for RM1,999.00 before discount. Standard 20% discount (I wonder if it could be stretched to >30% for cash) was offered at an AD at Mid Valley sometime in December 2010 and it can also be found here.

As for the Mido Baroncelli Power Reserve, the stainless steel bezel with white dial and brown leather strap which I'm interested in is going for RM4,250/4,400? before discount. RM4,600.00? for the Rose Gold version - same 20% discount offered by the Mid Valley AD. The online price can be found here and also here.

Orolus.com's prices seem to be higher than Superbuy.my but it looks like Bodying.my's prices which include free shipping to Malaysia by PosLaju is the most competitive.
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I own a vintage Mido Ocean star model is 1960s. I got it for ~US$60. running pretty well.
compare to Tissot I rather pay for a Mido. some brand just not super famous.
keep in mind prices always increase by a good 5-10% annually.

today there are much cheaper alternatives with independent brands (listed on page 1 post 1).
there is a nomos 33 on sale in jwwatch.com for 50% off. inhouse movement.

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My wife has a Mido Belluna... excellent value for money piece...

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