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English Clubs Liverpool Football Club - The Kop Talks 2011, Konchesky, Ayala left, Torres next?

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post Jan 14 2011, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(Perunding @ Jan 14 2011, 08:38 AM)
Blackpool 2 Liverpool 1

should change this thread to blackpool football club. LOL
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errr...what?

Just because Blackpool beat us twice, we should change our thread name huh. Then MU should change their thread name too in 2008/2009 since we did beat them twice as well. Stupid troll wink.gif
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post Jan 14 2011, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(uNeVErwaLkaloNe @ Jan 14 2011, 10:26 AM)
errr...what?

Just because Blackpool beat us twice, we should change our thread name huh. Then MU should change their thread name too in 2008/2009 since we did beat them twice as well. Stupid troll    wink.gif
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Not just that, we beat them 4 - 1 at Old Trafford smile.gif
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post Jan 14 2011, 11:22 AM

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Can you imagine how loud the crowds would chant KD name at Anfield this Sunday?

Hope KD able to sort out the line up problem. LB for Glen Johnson just doesn't work IMO, if Aurelio not available I would choose Konchesky instead, at least that's his natural position.

While Maxi Rodriguez should start as LM for this game. Jovanovic on our previous game is pretty rusty. Joe Cole maybe can play an attacking role linking up Torres or as RM to replace the tired Kuyt.

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QUOTE(Yluxion @ Jan 14 2011, 11:22 AM)
Can you imagine how loud the crowds would chant KD name at Anfield this Sunday?

Hope KD able to sort out the line up problem. LB for Glen Johnson just doesn't work IMO, if Aurelio not available I would choose Konchesky instead, at least that's his natural position.

While Maxi Rodriguez should start as LM for this game. Jovanovic on our previous game is pretty rusty. Joe Cole maybe can play an attacking role linking up Torres or as RM to replace the tired Kuyt.
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Another option is play 5 at the back
Johnson - Kelly - Agger - Skrtel - Aurelio

Let the 2 full back going forwards, as Johnson is good in attacking but weak in defending, while Aurelio is good at putting crosses in.

One thing is that, Liv doesn't have aerial attacking power in attack, which is one of weak link.
If on the ground cannot break down opponent, aka you cannot play fluid football on the ground, then you need to use the aerial route.
Somemore, without aerial attacking power, it just means, little chance to score in corner kick. Only Krygiakos has the aerial power for corner, like Hyypia, but Krygiakos defending is questionable.
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post Jan 14 2011, 11:54 AM

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Viola linked with Agger move


By ESPNsoccernet staff

Liverpool defender Daniel Agger is reported to be negotiating terms with Fiorentina.

Daniel Agger
PA PhotosDaniel Agger could be on his way out of Anfield

• Agger demands first-team football
• Babel accepts FA charge

Agger, 26, warned recently that he would look to leave the club if he was not a first-team regular. There appears little reason for the player to act on that threat - he has made four appearances already in January, starting both games since Kenny Dalglish took charge - but FIFA agent Bernardo Brovarone has claimed he is now discussing a move to Italy.

"The Viola have put forward a contract proposal to Agger, offering him €1.5 million, but he wants €2 million per season," he told Lady Radio. "Now we have to wait and see what Liverpool say about it."

Agger, who joined Liverpool from Brondby in 2006, has also been linked with Tottenham, Arsenal and Juventus.

Souce: Soccernet!
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post Jan 14 2011, 11:59 AM

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This season is getting silly now. Please, please at least beat Everton.
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post Jan 14 2011, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Jan 13 2011, 06:25 PM)
Dude, pages ago you're the one calling for his head.  shakehead.gif  doh.gif
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He's an attention seeking gooner who posts rubbish.

QUOTE(koolspyda @ Jan 14 2011, 08:10 AM)
Looking back we were desperate to catch up with the money game with ManU, chelsea, arsenal, and we were hoodwinked by some slick texans with mountains of promises but instead they punctured a hole into a bulldozing tanker which eventually ran aground last season. I would absolve any blame of rafa, .. maybe he took too much upon himself to fight the 2 devils that he lost the focus to motivate & prepare the players but it was the 2 devils that cursed LFc soul.   


That is my gripe with Rafa. Whilst I completely understand the frustration at not being given what he was promised i.e. money, I expect him to get on with his job and not jepordise team morale by constantly undermining the team that he has by stating repeatedly that he needs money to buy new players. Almost anyone could empathise with his predicament but if you ask me, it does the team no good that you blame our poor form last season squarely on the lack of money. While he could do nothing to change that, he could address morale issues which he failed to do so. Are the players to blame? Sure but a part of being a manager i.e. leader is to ensure that you instill fire in their bellies. Maybe we weren't going to win the league, but we should not have dropped points at home against relegation candidates.
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Lol... some trolls just have no life.
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QUOTE(jimbet1337 @ Jan 14 2011, 02:14 AM)
The manager is still Woy at the first post tongue.gif.
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QUOTE(seizer @ Jan 14 2011, 02:22 AM)
yup shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(reez_haris @ Jan 14 2011, 08:44 AM)
At least update your beloved manager :-)
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Sorry...Din notice that...was sleepy that time.... Will update it later when I m back home smile.gif
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I think the Rafa situation was far more complex rather than a simple case of Rafa should just focus on his job.

The crux of it was that he became far too attached to Liverpool and tried to do too much. He took it upon himself to fight for the fan's corner and the lack of football minds and leadership in the Liverpool hierarchy meant he had to do the bulk of the work of developing not just the first team, but the entire football aspect of the club. So naturally, things became far too complicated and Rafa was overwhelmed by the sheer amount of responsibilities.

I really do feel at the end of the day, Rafa himself became the victim of the mess that was created by G+H. The toxic working environment made him bitter and he became increasingly agitated to just carry on with his job.
Rafa of last season wasnt the same Rafa we first knew. He fought for us and the club, but at the end he was consumed by the G+H cancer.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jan 14 2011, 01:02 PM)
He's an attention seeking gooner who posts rubbish.
That is my gripe with Rafa. Whilst I completely understand the frustration at not being given what he was promised i.e. money, I expect him to get on with his job and not jepordise team morale by constantly undermining the team that he has by stating repeatedly that he needs money to buy new players. Almost anyone could empathise with his predicament but if you ask me, it does the team no good that you blame our poor form last season squarely on the lack of money. While he could do nothing to change that, he could address morale issues which he failed to do so. Are the players to blame? Sure but a part of being a manager i.e. leader is to ensure that you instill fire in their bellies. Maybe we weren't going to win the league, but we should not have dropped points at home against relegation candidates.
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"i need more (quality) men" rafa. "we have talent but the keys players do get injured in a season, & we rely too much on ...". I sure that is the exact scenario at melwood.

yes the way i see it, we are on the same page on rafa's failure to nip it & instead the constants fighting or griping. I cannot & could not defend his misjudgement to his first piority which was to manage the lfc. (even with constants media harping, fans expectations etc), but as hfi pointed out the are my sympathies too for rafa

a pararell situation if one would allow me to draw, AW work at arsenal now. (in todays bob holmes column, the gunners are liken to a 'best-dressed' guy at the dance but never getting the girl. the fans & esp media have been patient. (i know he won with gunners b4 & its more than 5 years at a single trophy)

I'm saying if rafa had not the media & the owners grovels to shovel & with some pocket change for better quality players just maybe we'll still be in a fight.

Yes, your are right, rafa lost sight in his final season but we were building quite nicely untill the owners said what we accumalated in winnings, CL gates attendances $$ will not go to buying new players but you have to sell to raise funds. deadwood players dont raise much, to chase good talent, go hire the better ones.

ok lets move on, rafa is yesterday now.

back to KD. the first thing (as i have said) we need some belief. At the current situation we'll be realistic even if we win all games in hand, we cant win the league. not this year, not in the foreceable future unless we invest & have the academy chums graduate well.

but look across to london, great academy, (almost) stingiest buys (still better then us)..

even at arsenal with all the young talented players, they havent the opportuntiy to court the 'pretty girl' in seasons. (no disrespect to fan of AW, we all (non gunners fans) like he did but somehow we all know you have to dig in or play ugly to win)

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post Jan 14 2011, 02:30 PM

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I want to win the league as much as the next fan but the best we can hope for is that club is run professionally and implement a long term plan to reinvent this club.

I want us to break away from the image that players come here because we so happen to be a prestigious European club some 20 odd years ago. Basically i want to see us become a football institute in the caliber of Barca - a club with a clear vision and built to materialize that vision. They're not just a club that play good football but they have this unique football culture and philosophy that is light years ahead of everyone else.

If that prove to impossible then i wouldnt mind settling for something less like Lyon - a club that has been designed to not be player or manager dependent. They are not as massive and pretty as Barca but they do have a stable structure, progressive youth development and can adapt to whatever situation.
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liverpool confirmed want to buy luis suarez?
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hmm that would be a nice CNY present if it happens smile.gif
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hmm that would be a nice CNY present if it happens smile.gif
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i heard ajax claimed that the striker valued around 15 million pounds and i hope we can get him. he is strong right? and young?
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QUOTE(hfi @ Jan 14 2011, 02:30 PM)
I want to win the league as much as the next fan but the best we can hope for is that club is run professionally and implement a long term plan to reinvent this club.

I want us to break away from the image that players come here because we so happen to be a prestigious European club some 20 odd years ago. Basically i want to see us become a football institute in the caliber of Barca - a club with a clear vision and built to materialize that vision. They're not just a club that play good football but they have this unique football culture and philosophy that is light years ahead of everyone else.

If that prove to impossible then i wouldnt mind settling for something less like Lyon - a club that has been designed to not be player or manager dependent. They are not as massive and pretty as Barca but they do have a stable structure, progressive youth development and can adapt to whatever situation.
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Couldn't agree with you more on this. We're not gonna be a running water tap like Man City.

Don't know when will be the day we move to Stanley Park with greater stadium. Could it be materialized in 5 years time? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(PPZ @ Jan 14 2011, 03:40 PM)
i heard ajax claimed that the striker valued around 15 million pounds and i hope we can get him. he is strong right? and young?
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15 mil is cheap nowadays for a well known striker.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 14 2011, 03:56 PM)
15 mil is cheap nowadays for a well known striker.
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15 mil for the new hand of god? Hell YES! tongue.gif
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QUOTE(LukeMjstc @ Jan 14 2011, 04:04 PM)
15 mil for the new hand of god? Hell YES!  tongue.gif
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+1 too. Remember how much we paid for Dossena, Keane, or Morientes? blush.gif
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QUOTE(PPZ @ Jan 14 2011, 03:40 PM)
i heard ajax claimed that the striker valued around 15 million pounds and i hope we can get him. he is strong right? and young?
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He can play both the strikers position and goalkeeper if my memory serves me right tongue.gif

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