do you actually feel the network is congested right now? things have been a-ok. these users are just an excuse to save costs. no matter what, you must realize msian internet is behind other countries, and capping is going to make it further behind. they want users to compromise, but it's not fair they don't do the same.

haha,

actually 4mbps to reach 1.2TB, that really fully 24/7 every minutes every seconds to download at full speed to reach that much

to me, 1.3mbps, to get total 150+GB also need at least 3 months+ only download when needs especially huge steam games and wow patches + some youtube stream, and some p2p dl when needed (not full speed though)

plus i got many family members, everyone share the single line, ouch

This post has been edited by squall0833: Apr 21 2011, 11:40 AM

i'm on streamyx 512k ,last nite i download a 1.5gb movie, morning i wake up done d, if i do this everyday, then its 45gb d, to think of the VIP5 FUP is 60gb sounds a bit absurd...

but 1.2TB is juz WTF, TM should have pandai pandai throttle down their speed ma, why give them full speed kan?

If you only used the Internet for facebook or even youtube, why would you even bother to get UniFi? I couldn't justify paying RM149/month for simple services like that.

I have a VIP5 account & my bandwidth usage is about 800GB/month (upload & download) - I do download some torrents, but not many - my UniFi is connected to 4 computers (& mobile phones running WiFi and PSP I presume) & 2 of those computers are running analysis software as I do a lot of work from home. We have the VIP10 Business package in the office and I am interacting with that quite a lot.

TM can introduce capping it if wants but someone should sue them for false advertising if they do.
A 5Mbps package can suck up the 60GB cap in just over 1 day, so TM should be advertising their VIP5 package as:

"5Mbps (for 1 day per month - please turn your modem off for the rest of the month)"

And how exactly do you sue a GLC company? Sure you can, but you think you can win?

That's why I said 'someone' and not 'I'! :-)

Definitely some publicity should be generated - far too many companies get away with what is essentially false advertising.

last time i used to dl about 130gb data in 3 days time with streamyx 4M. So 1.2TB is possible in a month if avarage dl speed at 500kbps+.

they shouldnt cap others for watever reason. since they promised us a bandwidth, they should keep their promise instead. if they cant supply the bandwidth which leads to bad internet experience for others, well that is streamyx's fault.

plus, if they really need to cap our bandwidth, charge us at a lower rate then...

n totally agree bout the BN thing

in the previous fup system, you see, heavy users get capped. but normal users are also affected. youtube performance was god awful.

whatever they are doing, they say its because of heavy users, but normal users are affected as well, so in actuality.. only.... tm gains. lame. once again, the people lose. in malaysia, the people lose, only government (and glc) wins.

if it is going on this rules i will direct cut n unsubcribe tm any ISP n banned them forever~coz it is expropriate our as a consumer's rights~

This post has been edited by wesley1987: Apr 22 2011, 12:42 AM

flip flop monopoli company lah

srsly i would love to switch over to another ISP, but there aint any choice for my area... streamyx is the only landline based ISP here.. wireless solutions wont do since im a gamer and latency matters alot.

lol its obvious tat streamyx sucks but so many of us are still using it. so wat do we do next?

seriously this is shit man, we have only one ISP which is Tmnut in malaysia with poor quality service.

Now still want to limit bandwidth?? 60gb is totally a joke, friends of mine in other country even have limit of 250gb but they still exceeds the limit.

The CR thing is totally clueless, the speed is so slow already still want to cap the speed?

VL? who will wants to pay extra for the poor service?

They should have improve their fcking services instead of introducing these shit.

This post has been edited by yewyew1314: Apr 27 2011, 12:37 AM

tell u what to do.. they exist is because bn is prominent. just don't vote bn.

I am here to voice out my opinion, read it, understand it, agree or disagree; I do not need to know.

If one subscribe to whatever speed for his/her internet connectivity and pay a monthly fee of certain amount of money, download and upload 24/7; You call it abuse? Even if the agreement has some sort of quota for bandwidth or timeline of usage and you max it out, you still can't call that abusing.

If one pay a certain amount of money to subscribe for an unlimited phone calls package and use it 24/7 even during bathing, cooking, shitting, sleeping and driving time, you call it abuse? Even if the agreement states some sort of talk time quota and you max it out, you still can't call that abusing.

I personally do not think so anyone could categories this as "abuse".

Say if business Unifi subcriber downloads and uploads maxing out their bandwidth 24/7, can you call that as abusing and then throttle their speed?

VIP subscribers are using their bandwidth so much now because there isn't a official announcement on bandwidth cap or throttling. They can't be called as "Bandwidth Abuser" because they were not asked not to use such amount of bandwidth therefore it is not an action of "to use wrongly", improperly or misuse.

If a SOHO/Remote user subscribe to Business Unifi plan and download/update eg. databases, backing files to servers and stream legally purchased HD media from the cloud hitting up to 10TB a month, shall you call him a bandwidth hogger or abuser?

It is not my job to control my internet usage, it is the ISP's job to provide what I sign up for. If a package states I can only use a certain amount of data transfer in a period of time, then so be it because I sign the agreement when subscribing to the service.

It is the ISP's job too to provide users with a fair agreement in conjunction with the service they are providing. Consumer rights are not really enforced in Malaysia therefore service providers are abusing their power to do everything to shut us all up/brain wash us.

Even for Streamyx package, is there an official announcement by the ISP stating that P2P throttling is being enforced if/before/after/at all certain amount of bandwidth is used?

Microsoft Groove uses P2P Technology as stated here. So if ISP blocks/throttle P2P then legitimate users will be facing very bad productivity and experience.

Example of abusing:-

1. Using company's internet facility to send/receive unauthorized information externally/internally.
2. Downloading/Uploading data using company's internet facility without authorization is call abusing.

Definition for Abuse

a·buse   
[v. uh-byooz; n. uh-byoos] Show IPA
verb, a·bused, a·bus·ing, noun
–verb (used with object)
1. to use wrongly or improperly; misuse: to abuse one's authority.
2. to treat in a harmful, injurious, or offensive way: to abuse a horse; to abuse one's eyesight.
3. to speak insultingly, harshly, and unjustly to or about; revile; malign.

–noun
6. wrong or improper use; misuse: the abuse of privileges.
7. harshly or coarsely insulting language: The officer heaped abuse on his men.
8. bad or improper treatment; maltreatment: The child was subjected to cruel abuse.

—Idiom
12.
abuse oneself, to masturbate.

In this context of the usage of the word "abusing" bandwidth can't be used at all.

If an ISP wants to make sure there is no/less congestion and down time on it's network, they should hire network engineers that is knowledgeable enough to handle traffic flow problems and also make plans on upgrading network devices and capacity in order to cater for more subscribers. Not by brain washing subscribers with words like bandwitdh abuser/hoggers and limit or throttle their bandwidth unless stated in the agreement otherwise.

A 4Mbit Streamyx subscriber can hit a max of 1.2359619140625TB if download only at max speed 24/7 non stop.

All fine points but you gotta understand that TMnut is monopolizing the market in Malaysia so as the head honcho they can pretty much do anything they want. They know this and they don't care. All they have to do is to provide you with an ok service and they'll call it a day. Why should they care about since they're making billions of profits each year (with or without your complaining and whining).

Last year they've shown this with the obvious blatant application of fair usage policy that's gone terribly wrong for a whole month plus and last time I check, I didn't get my rebate and I bet millions other subscribers didn't get theirs either. Not only that, during this so called "exercise" they did not even mention anything about it so we're left around fumbling around. Just to make matters worst, the capping was so bad even local connection (which is guaranteed by them to be "good") is also affected.

In the end, you live in Malaysia, you follow the rule or... you go live in the jungle and make your own rule (or goto Singapore, they got awesome broadband there ). Clearly you do have a choice but it's up to you to exercise it.

PS: Yeah yeah I know their CEO did make some announcement on some obscure radio station about some BS after a month plus of silence. Clearly they care about their customers, IKR

This post has been edited by ahpek26: Apr 27 2011, 08:55 PM

If our country have rich contents hosted in local IDC with good local peering policy, you do not need to invest plenty of international bandwidth on undersea water cable, for example, Japs and Korean, even their local yahoo are in their local language hosted within their network. Do you think they will implement CR/VL on their 100mb/1gb line? for sure a 60GB policy will be finish in 1 day. So do invest your local contents providers, and welcome external content providers like akamai to be hosted here, then you will save cost. cure the symptoms, not the disease.

my POV, yeah everyone hate caps, slowdown but you guys forgetting something,

do you really thing most of those heavy (users) downloaders download LEGAL things in the first place?!

i bet if there are no illegal downloader, problem solve.

4mb @ 1.2TB LOL...that's maxed download 24/7 for 1 whole month @ average of 500kb/s. the figure is from a real user? or just plain calculation? unbelievable..

Why not just cap the heavy users and those who abuse it? Those that are `light` downloaders shouldnt be subjected to this CAP at all