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post Dec 21 2010, 02:11 AM

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QUOTE(Vervain @ Dec 21 2010, 01:29 AM)
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nice reply
about the apps count
i agree to drop it
gettin confusin

i jump from iphone2 to iphone4
skippin 3g n 3gs
n nvr went till the max pages
cause im not a gamer

bout my iphone4 lag
its used as a secondary phone
so bout facebook n such
notifications all were turned off
mayb its somethin wit the phone itself
a hardware defect mayb

the debate is heatin up
bt comin from someone who owns both phone
which is btr in my hands tat is the one im supportin the most

i think the last time ppl ask about x10 n iphone4
i mention iphone4 is witout lag
cause tat time
my x10 on 1.6 is laggy while my iphone4 is smooth
bt now
my x10 is smooth while iphone4 laggy

bt from the general view
havin an iphone equals some social status
tat is the general prespective
even though iphone is gettin common

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post Dec 21 2010, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(mode893 @ Dec 20 2010, 10:55 PM)
According to this http://www.malaysianbroadband.info/nokia-r...g-mobile-phone/  not even half a person (0.4 to be exact) out of 10 people in a cinema uses an iPhone. You seem to resort to a lot of name-calling based on assumptions alone. Grow up.
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First of all, I think I made it pretty clear that I was paraphrasing another poster in this thread on the "9 out of 10" statement. Here, I'll even find the original post for you:

"No offense but in the cinemas, before the show starts, 9 out of 10 lit screens are iPhones.

Too common if you ask me."

Page 2, comment by Vince1991.

And secondly, there is no mention of anything about iphones and cinema goers in the link you provided? Did you post the wrong reference link by mistake? Or were you simply trying to mislead?

As for the name calling part, so it was ok for him to be the first one to throw an insult, but when other people retaliate, they need to "grow up"? What are you? His backside buddy coming to his defense?

Also maybe you didn't notice, but I am not the one making assumptions. The person who said "the extra rm600 you pay for iP4 based on specs is for the social status" is. It was a lousy assumption, I pointed out it, and he seems to have taken offense. And that, is what is going on.

So, lesson for you, at least get your bearings right and know what is going on before you start butting in on other people's discussion, yea? smile.gif


Added on December 21, 2010, 1:17 pm
QUOTE(FallenOut @ Dec 21 2010, 02:11 AM)
i jump from iphone2 to iphone4
skippin 3g n 3gs

Just a slight comment, but I'm not sure, I don't think there was ever an Iphone2? It was just the Iphone, and then the Iphone 3G?

QUOTE(FallenOut @ Dec 21 2010, 02:11 AM)
bt from the general view
havin an iphone equals some social status
tat is the general prespective
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This goes a full circle back to your "the extra rm600 you pay for iP4 based on specs is for the social status" statement.

Really, I'm curious. What kind of social status does an Iphone confer on its holder?

And you claim that this is the general perspective. By who? Seems like it's just you who is somehow having this fantasy of the Iphone giving its user some kind of social status.

Like I said, that worker in that Boost Juice kiosk had an Iphone. So she has kind of social status because of her Iphone?

And what about the sales "manager" of my previous company, whose daily job includes going to our client's office and sitting in their pantry and bug them until she could sell some of our product to them. I suppose she has some special social status too, because she holds an Iphone?

Anyhow, you go ahead and choose to go on living with this little Iphone fantasy of yours. I just realized that it's not really anyone's loss.

You, Sir, are in fact the perfect market for the Iphone. Please stick with it, and make sure that you are the first in the line when the Iphone5 comes out. Wouldn't want to miss out of the social status now, would you? biggrin.gif

This post has been edited by clutch31: Dec 21 2010, 01:38 PM
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post Dec 21 2010, 02:46 PM

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just get iphone 4. even android 2.2 device still catch up to iphone 4, se x10 is only 1.6.
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QUOTE(clutch31 @ Dec 21 2010, 12:59 PM)
First of all, I think I made it pretty clear that I was paraphrasing another poster in this thread on the "9 out of 10" statement. Here, I'll even find the original post for you:

"No offense but in the cinemas, before the show starts, 9 out of 10 lit screens are iPhones.

Too common if you ask me."

Page 2, comment by Vince1991.

And secondly, there is no mention of anything about iphones and cinema goers in the link you provided? Did you post the wrong reference link by mistake? Or were you simply trying to mislead?

As for the name calling part, so it was ok for him to be the first one to throw an insult, but when other people retaliate, they need to "grow up"? What are you? His backside buddy coming to his defense?

Also maybe you didn't notice, but I am not the one making assumptions. The person who said "the extra rm600 you pay for iP4 based on specs is for the social status" is. It was a lousy assumption, I pointed out it, and he seems to have taken offense. And that, is what is going on.

So, lesson for you, at least get your bearings right and know what is going on before you start butting in on other people's discussion, yea? smile.gif


Added on December 21, 2010, 1:17 pm
Just a slight comment, but I'm not sure, I don't think there was ever an Iphone2? It was just the Iphone, and then the Iphone 3G?
This goes a full circle back to your "the extra rm600 you pay for iP4 based on specs is for the social status" statement.

Really, I'm curious. What kind of social status does an Iphone confer on its holder?

And you claim that this is the general perspective. By who? Seems like it's just you who is somehow having this fantasy of the Iphone giving its user some kind of social status.

Like I said, that worker in that Boost Juice kiosk had an Iphone. So she has kind of social status because of her Iphone?

And what about the sales "manager" of my previous company, whose daily job includes going to our client's office and sitting in their pantry and bug them until she could sell some of our product to them. I suppose she has some special social status too, because she holds an Iphone?

Anyhow, you go ahead and choose to go on living with this little Iphone fantasy of yours. I just realized that it's not really anyone's loss.

You, Sir, are in fact the perfect market for the Iphone. Please stick with it, and make sure that you are the first in the line when the Iphone5 comes out. Wouldn't want to miss out of the social status now, would you? biggrin.gif
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post Dec 21 2010, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(mode893 @ Dec 21 2010, 03:36 PM)
Figures talk and bullshit walks. Like I said, grow up  doh.gif
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Like I said, get your bearings right. Don't butt in to a discussion with no knowledge of what is going on. You do realize that by posting that flame bait in your previous post, you sound more like a troll than anything, right?

And figures? What figures?

Like I said, the link you supplied is a report on Nokia's market position compared to other phone makers. No mention of "not even half a person (0.4 to be exact) out of 10 people in a cinema uses an iPhone" as claimed by you. A report about a phone makers' market share has no direct relevance to how many people sitting in a cinema uses a certain phone. So you do realize that it looks like you are trying to mislead people, right?

And even if we give you all the benefit of the doubt. Even if assuming that what you said is totally true, there is still the question of why you are addressing this to me. Again, like I said, I was paraphrasing someone else. If you have an issue with the stats, take it up with the original poster, don't waste my bandwidth.

If you care to clarify, by all means go ahead. If you don't, then what is the point of posting this one liner? Further trolling? hmm.gif

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post Dec 21 2010, 07:19 PM

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QUOTE(clutch31 @ Dec 21 2010, 12:59 PM)

Added on December 21, 2010, 1:17 pm
Just a slight comment, but I'm not sure, I don't think there was ever an Iphone2? It was just the Iphone, and then the Iphone 3G?
This goes a full circle back to your "the extra rm600 you pay for iP4 based on specs is for the social status" statement.

Really, I'm curious. What kind of social status does an Iphone confer on its holder?

And you claim that this is the general perspective. By who? Seems like it's just you who is somehow having this fantasy of the Iphone giving its user some kind of social status.

Like I said, that worker in that Boost Juice kiosk had an Iphone. So she has kind of social status because of her Iphone?

And what about the sales "manager" of my previous company, whose daily job includes going to our client's office and sitting in their pantry and bug them until she could sell some of our product to them. I suppose she has some special social status too, because she holds an Iphone?

Anyhow, you go ahead and choose to go on living with this little Iphone fantasy of yours. I just realized that it's not really anyone's loss.

You, Sir, are in fact the perfect market for the Iphone. Please stick with it, and make sure that you are the first in the line when the Iphone5 comes out. Wouldn't want to miss out of the social status now, would you? biggrin.gif
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yea its my bad
its just the iphone n not the iphone2 as u pointed out
my bad really

ok back to ur splendid reply
wat goes back a full circle to me?
u make it seems like im the one tat coin tat statement

the poster goes by the name of Aurai
page 1
post 10

were u tryin to mislead ppl into thinkin tat statement was made by me
well
mayb as u pointed out
u r not the one makin assumptions
since clearly u r the one thinkin of assumptions too much
csi or any drama u watch lately havin an influence on ur mind?
well then
i doubt u r payin much attention anyway
u r not the one callin out the insults?
in my case
well it seems tat u r the one as i will point out later

as i pointed out
its the general perspective n view
are u the one who dictate wat is the general view or not
u should know everyone has a mind of their own
are u here to dictate wat is the general thinkin everyone should have

back to ur insults
wat is tis u r sayin bout my iphone fantasy
were u even readin then only post as a reply or comment
or just speed readin then make ur lil assumptions
i was nvr proud of my iphone4
i was nvr sayin i need to hav an iphone in my life
or is it u r still butt hurtin from everyone in ur social circle havin one bt not u

if u cant comprehend wat im tryin to say
then u should not even bother
u r just tryin to force ur points on ppl
it may work in ur dreams
or to the kids tat admire ur way of force talkin
bt not to me

mayb im gonna b in line for an iphone5
or mayb im not
i buy as i like
i use as i like
are u here to tell me wat to do

do u even hav an iphone4 n x10 to compare side by side
oh wait u dun
then how can u justify wat u hav said
its all in ur head

on the other hand
i hav both phones
so its from experience of usin both

do u hav those
tat do u think wat u said is actually accurate

u were talkin bout insults b then u r the one hurlin them out in my case
n sayin ppl were misquotin u
bt then u did the same thing

hav u been drinkin or smokin
grow up
tis world doesnt revolves around u

QUOTE(cyberfly @ Dec 21 2010, 02:46 PM)
just get iphone 4. even android 2.2 device still catch up to iphone 4, se x10 is only 1.6.
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x10 is 2.1 currently
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QUOTE(FallenOut @ Dec 21 2010, 07:19 PM)
yea its my bad
its just the iphone n not the iphone2 as u pointed out
my bad really

ok back to ur splendid reply
wat goes back a full circle to me?
u make it seems like im the one tat coin tat statement

the poster goes by the name of Aurai
page 1
post 10

were u tryin to mislead ppl into thinkin tat statement was made by me
well
mayb as u pointed out
u r not the one makin assumptions
since clearly u r the one thinkin of assumptions too much
csi or any drama u watch lately havin an influence on ur mind?
well then
i doubt u r payin much attention anyway
u r not the one callin out the insults?
in my case
well it seems tat u r the one as i will point out later

as i pointed out
its the general perspective n view
are u the one who dictate wat is the general view or not
u should know everyone has a mind of their own
are u here to dictate wat is the general thinkin everyone should have

back to ur insults
wat is tis u r sayin bout my iphone fantasy
were u even readin then only post as a reply or comment
or just speed readin then make ur lil assumptions
i was nvr proud of my iphone4
i was nvr sayin i need to hav an iphone in my life
or is it u r still butt hurtin from everyone in ur social circle havin one bt not u

if u cant comprehend wat im tryin to say
then u should not even bother
u r just tryin to force ur points on ppl
it may work in ur dreams
or to the kids tat admire ur way of force talkin
bt not to me

mayb im gonna b in line for an iphone5
or mayb im not
i buy as i like
i use as i like
are u here to tell me wat to do

do u even hav an iphone4 n x10 to compare side by side
oh wait u dun
then how can u justify wat u hav said
its all in ur head

on the other hand
i hav both phones
so its from experience of usin both

do u hav those
tat do u think wat u said is actually accurate

u were talkin bout insults b then u r the one hurlin them out in my case
n sayin ppl were misquotin u
bt then u did the same thing

hav u been drinkin or smokin
grow up
tis world doesnt revolves around u
x10 is 2.1 currently
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post Dec 21 2010, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(cyberfly @ Dec 21 2010, 02:46 PM)
just get iphone 4. even android 2.2 device still catch up to iphone 4, se x10 is only 1.6.
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u sure don't know anything.. X10 already updated to 2.1

btw, TS already make up his mind on X10 AFAIK. u guys should stop debating on which one is better etc. this will never end. different ppl got their own preferences. TQ
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for me also iphone 4
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post Dec 21 2010, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(clutch31 @ Dec 21 2010, 03:51 PM)
Like I said, get your bearings right. Don't butt in to a discussion with no knowledge of what is going on. You do realize that by posting that flame bait in your previous post, you sound more like a troll than anything, right?

And figures? What figures?

Like I said, the link you supplied is a report on Nokia's market position compared to other phone makers. No mention of "not even half a person (0.4 to be exact) out of 10 people in a cinema uses an iPhone" as claimed by you. A report about a phone makers' market share has no direct relevance to how many people sitting in a cinema uses a certain phone. So you do realize that it looks like you are trying to mislead people, right?

And even if we give you all the benefit of the doubt. Even if assuming that what you said is totally true, there is still the question of why you are addressing this to me. Again, like I said, I was paraphrasing someone else. If you have an issue with the stats, take it up with the original poster, don't waste my bandwidth.

If you care to clarify, by all means go ahead. If you don't, then what is the point of posting this one liner? Further trolling?  hmm.gif
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Lol. Ever considered anger management class? laugh.gif
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Sorry FallenOut, I have to edit your post because otherwise it'd be too long for me to quote in its entirety. As usual, I'll leave the main points untouched.

And you're right, you didn't say "the extra rm600 you pay for iP4 based on specs is for the social status". I quoted the wrong statement in my previous post. But doesn't matter, because everything I said was and is still valid, as will be shown below.

QUOTE(FallenOut @ Dec 21 2010, 07:19 PM)
as i pointed out
its the general perspective n view
are u the one who dictate wat is the general view or not
u should know everyone has a mind of their own
are u here to dictate wat is the general thinkin everyone should have

Wow, contradict yourself much?

You are the one who stated that "bt from the general view havin an iphone equals some social status tat is the general prespective". And now you are also the one asking "u should know everyone has a mind of their own are u here to dictate wat is the general thinkin everyone should have".

So first, you say this is the general view like it's a fact. Then you say, no, actually no one can dictate what is the general view.

Wow, I'm sorry, you are right, I don't understand what you are trying to say. hmm.gif


QUOTE(FallenOut @ Dec 21 2010, 07:19 PM)
were u even readin then only post as a reply or comment
or just speed readin then make ur lil assumptions
i was nvr proud of my iphone4
i was nvr sayin i need to hav an iphone in my life

Uhm, did I ever say that you claimed to be proud of your iphone4? Did I ever say that you claimed to need the iphone4?

So who's the one doing the speed reading here? So who's the one making the "lil assumptions" here? sweat.gif

You said "havin an iphone equals some social status". FACT.

I asked "Really, I'm curious. What kind of social status does an Iphone confer on its holder?" FACT.

In other words, you made an assertion, I asked a valid question in response. FACT.

And instead of addressing my question, you seemed to have taken offense and went on a ranting spree. All these talk about CSI dramas and drinking and smoking and what not in your loooooong post is just a waste of bandwidth.

If you can justify your statement, go ahead, make your points clearly and concisely, we're all listening, no need for theatrics. If you cannot, then just go away and stop posting a whole essay trying to confuse everyone, because it won't help you.


Added on December 22, 2010, 11:49 am
QUOTE(mode893 @ Dec 21 2010, 11:11 PM)
Lol. Ever considered anger management class?  laugh.gif
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No, not really. I'm not the one who needs to post flame baits and meaningless one-liners in an online forum as an outlet for the angst issues in his life. wink.gif

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post Dec 22 2010, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(clutch31 @ Dec 22 2010, 11:45 AM)

Added on December 22, 2010, 11:49 am
No, not really. I'm not the one who needs to post flame baits and meaningless one-liners in an online forum as an outlet for the angst issues in his life.  wink.gif
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Having so much fun with you right now laugh.gif I mean who else replies a 'meaningless' one liner with 25 lines rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(clutch31 @ Dec 22 2010, 11:45 AM)
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You really need a life.You are hopeless
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QUOTE(mode893 @ Dec 22 2010, 01:51 PM)
Having so much fun with you right now  laugh.gif  I mean who else replies a 'meaningless' one liner with 25 lines  rclxms.gif
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You know, several posts back, when I first saw your post, I thought we'd have a good discussion on our hands, since here was someone who looked like he can present his case intelligently, backed up with statistics too.

But several posts later, this is what you are reduced to. Counting the number of lines in my posts. That's so typical, yea? When caught in a corner with nothing to say, start with the one line babbles in an attempt divert attention and trivialize everything. Sad, but very typical. rclxms.gif

If this is the best you can do, then I have no more use for you. At least guys like Aurai and FallenOut tries to make a coherent case for themselves. Have a good life. rolleyes.gif


Added on December 22, 2010, 5:10 pm
QUOTE(Shiro HinSaek @ Dec 22 2010, 02:33 PM)
You really need a life.You are hopeless
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Thank you so much for this information?

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QUOTE(clutch31 @ Dec 22 2010, 04:59 PM)
You know, several posts back, when I first saw your post, I thought we'd have a good discussion on our hands, since here was someone who looked like he can present his case intelligently, backed up with statistics too.

But several posts later, this is what you are reduced to. Counting the number of lines in my posts. That's so typical, yea? When caught in a corner with nothing to say, start with the one line babbles in an attempt divert attention and trivialize everything. Sad, but very typical.  rclxms.gif

If this is the best you can do, then I have no more use for you. At least guys like Aurai and FallenOut tries to make a coherent case for themselves. Have a good life. rolleyes.gif


Added on December 22, 2010, 5:10 pm
Thank you so much for this information?
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Awww...too bad the feeling's not mutual. But on the bright side, 6 lines only now, I have taught you well thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(clutch31 @ Dec 22 2010, 11:45 AM)
Wow, contradict yourself much?

did i even contradict myself as u suggested?

You are the one who stated that "bt from the general view havin an iphone equals some social status tat is the general prespective". And now you are also the one asking "u should know everyone has a mind of their own are u here to dictate wat is the general thinkin everyone should have".

if u would read between the lines
i did say general view
not a one sided view as u urself has led urself to believe

in my line of work
i come across a wide range of ppl
not just limited to some building or wat
n most of em
make tat about 7 to 8 out of 10
agrees wit me tat the iphone is like havin some social status
tat makes it the general view
bt u on the other hand
still says tat the iphone has no such things
wouldnt tat b like forcin most of the general ppl to see the things from ur own point of view
would tat not b forcin?
as in general
i approach alot of diff ppl
as for u
im not sure
mayb u r holed up in ur own lil world thinkin of havin an iphone

if u would wan an easy to read summary

everyone has a diff view of somethin
bt when most of those r identical
when most of the views are almost the same
tat is for me the general view


You said "havin an iphone equals some social status". FACT.

I asked "Really, I'm curious. What kind of social status does an Iphone confer on its holder?" FACT.

In other words, you made an assertion, I asked a valid question in response. FACT.

u do need to get out into the world more n more instead of hidin in a corner

And instead of addressing my question, you seemed to have taken offense and went on a ranting spree. All these talk about CSI dramas and drinking and smoking and what not in your loooooong post is just a waste of bandwidth.

If you can justify your statement, go ahead, make your points clearly and concisely, we're all listening, no need for theatrics. If you cannot, then just go away and stop posting a whole essay trying to confuse everyone, because it won't help you.

my theatrics as u called it
is nothin compared to tis statement of urs

Anyhow, you go ahead and choose to go on living with this little Iphone fantasy of yours. I just realized that it's not really anyone's loss.

You, Sir, are in fact the perfect market for the Iphone. Please stick with it, and make sure that you are the first in the line when the Iphone5 comes out. Wouldn't want to miss out of the social status now, would you?

u were tryin to do somethin there arent u
u were startin a fire bt claim no knowledge of wat u were doin?
total amnesia or wat

yea i think my long essays is a waste of bandwidth too
i may hav went on a rantin spree as u called it
stop talkin bout bandwidth
i nvr asked u to come n read n reply
i nvr forced u
dun blame it on me
if u urself wants to venture into here
its ur own problem

i already said wat i wan
i make my points
mayb not as subtle or clearly as u
bt its still my points nonetheless

yea tis would b my last post
im goin away
cuz tis is wastin my time
u still choose to stand by wat u urself think as the truth
do dream more in ur own dream land
the reality may just b more harsher than u ever think
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How to save sent messages on an Iphone 4 and reuse it later for resend?
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How to save sent messages on an Iphone 4 and reuse it later for resend?
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ask in iphone thread. http://forum.lowyat.net/iPhone
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QUOTE(FallenOut @ Dec 22 2010, 06:42 PM)

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Sorry FallenOut, again, your post is just too long for me to quote.

Let me propose something here. If you ever read this post of mine, take a deep breathe, calm down, and count to 10. Then reread my posts. Or don't if you don't want to, I'll summarize everything here for you.

You claim that having the Iphone is equivalent of having some social status. Ok, so my question is then very simple: What social status? If you still cannot grasp this very simple question, let me elaborate.

Are you trying to say that having an Iphone shows that a person is richer and thereby having social status?

Or are you trying to say that having an Iphone shows that a person is trendy and thereby having social status?

Or are you trying to say that having an Iphone shows that a person is intelligent and thereby having social status?

Which one is it? If none of the above, then tell me what exactly are you trying to say? What is this social status that you are talking about? This is my main point in all my posts, and till now, you still have not managed to come up with an answer. All you do is go on talking about things like CSI dramas.

If you are able and willing to explain what this so-called social status that you are talking about is and show me how it is conferred to someone by an Iphone, then by all means, enlighten me, I'm all ears.

If not, then what else is there to say?

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