well.. tat means get a D3100 for a longer run lo... i dont even know wat`s the use of the additional lens, the 18-55mm one.. wat`s tat for?

That's the standard lens that come together with the DSLR

This post has been edited by -kytz-: Dec 14 2010, 08:42 PM

But as u said there`s no autofocus motor inside D3100, i gotta buy extra lens right? how much does it cost? i dont plan to invest really much $$ in lenses yet.. just wanna get the angle and skills right 1st.. with LX-5 i dont have to buy any extra accessories right?

The lens that comes with the D3100 is an AF-S 18-55,which can Auto Focus with your body So it's perfectly fine

Just that any extra lenses that you might wanna get, must be AF-S version for the AF

I see.. Hmm other than d3100, is there any alternative models of beginner dslr? wat about sony a33 mention by chiahau?

Other than its has a translucent lens that enables AF during videos, nothing different from D3100. Sony has built in Stabilization in the Body so lens without Stabilization can be used easily. Though we do not have as much lens like Canon or Nikon, we do have older Minolta and coming soon lens from sony lol.

why not u go to the camera shop and test them by yourself?

Thx chiahau. I'm not a sony alpha fans. I think i'm choosing Canon instead. I've been considering to buy the EOS 550D. Thinking about EOS 500D or EOS 550, which one is better?

Btw, if I want to buy it next month, which shop is recommended with genuine warranty and best price?

Erm, not sure about Canon but can try Creative Damansara. There's quite cheap. Lol. Nowadays users all think about brand over camera XD
Go test out the cameras at the respective shops and then decide.

Cheers then.

P.S - Creative Damansara also goes by the name of mitmivec in this forum XD

but i really dont know how to compare those small differences

Push features and specifications aside ---------------------------->

Now, use the camera and feel it. Which feels the best to you, or which you like best?

well i`m not sure man.. since all the votes go to d3100, maybe i should just take tat and start learning the fundamental from it

Trust me man, do look around 4 other options. Don't always listen to recommendations. Go to the shop, don't listen to the sales person, and test the heck outta the camera that you are interested in. Dun be like some people, buy dy, not nice soon waste $$ go jump ship or change body.

Buy the one which you like most. Go Nikon Center/Canon or whatever and test the respective cameras.

sure man thank u all for all the recommendation. if got question i`ll ask u guys again. sorry if i`ll will disturb u guys with PM

Listening to the salesman is the LAST thing i'll do in my list

oh sorry guys i got one more request, can list me the best model for brands like panasonic, canon, nikon, olympus etc in beginner dslr category?

Panasonic doesn't make DSLRs, Olympus is concentrating on the Pen m4/3 cameras,so left Sony,Canon,Nikon and Pentax

Check my first post in the first page. Be sure to read!

This post has been edited by -kytz-: Dec 14 2010, 11:04 PM

Type of camera/lens/accesories : Digital camerea
Budget : RM 400- RM 800
Your Location :Melaka
Preferable brand : Olympus, Canon or Sony
Type of photography u want to do : Landscape or Portrait
Any specific features u want? : Cheaper price with high mega pixels

I am not sure about sony.
but for canon and nikon I do understand.
go for 1000D if you do mind spending your patty on entry level dslr. I will say it's a value buy for entry. since all you need is to learn the usage of DSLR.


if you are nikon go for D3000.
it is cheap, it is nice, but as cited Nikon entry level Dslr doesn't have AF-S therefore you need to go for AF-S lens. In addition this body doesn't give you movie recording feature as well.

One step ahead. you will have
D3100/D5000 and 500D/550D

It's quite comparable. even I am nikonian I will say in this model canon give more agronomic body (it's all depends on the person).
however D3100 give you more logical button positioning.

In term of feature, they are not so difference, however d3100 doesn't have build in body AF-S again! Damn for GOD sake it is Entry level DSLR
The other, I will say overall good thing come out from d3100. Not to mention it's body is very very very small 'd3000 alike'

One more thing D3100 is the only and the first Nikon DSLR which support real HD movie recording (but no microphone plug though )

I will say d3100 is better than d5000 in term of feature, therefore try not to go to d5000 unlike you really2 like that filppy2 LCD.
(I will give you an impression that you aren't pro )

If you are pro to canon go for 500D instead of 550D. I usually recommend my friend to go for 500D over 550D.
Since what I see in the feature the only massive difference is its 'MEGA pixels' well I will say in DSLR photography you wouldn't really need MPx as long as it is more than 10- is enough because you wouldn't stretch the picture taken. Unless you have a studio. and yeahhh studio doesn't use entry level DSLR.

They use 1D Mark III/IV or D3S/D3X
However that MEGA thingy will always workout to catch up newbie attention.


Canon is always better than Nikon in movie recording.
But Nikon is better than cannon is photography. Don't believe in me?
Go for youtube and querry:
digitalrev tv D3s vs 1d mark IV
You will find the proof. Sorry I can't post the vid because my office block youtube

well if you doesn't have tight budgeting go for
D7000 for nikon - else you can still get d90 (Prosummer body which still working fine) Yeahh.. this one is prosummer body therefore you can use any type of lens even without 'AF-S' unlike that entry level bodies which I mention before (D3000, D3100, D5000)
else
60D for canon - This model is a flippy LCD model for canon. I will say don't go for this one since it is prosummer body yet give that flippy LCD thingy.
I will only make you not to look professional.

lastly go for 7D if you are damn rich to spend that much money for your 1st DSLR camera and you want to spend years with your body. I see quite a good review of it.

However for beginner remember one thing.

Cheapo body + Pro lens will always works better than

Pro body + Cheapo lens.

Therefore my suggestion is go for normal body which you can afford. Not too bad yet giving you feature to learn. like D3100/D3000 or 1000D/500D
Do not try to force your money on body. instead on lens.

Don't believe in me again?
Go to youtube query:
Cheapo body + pro lens vs pro body + cheapo lens
Again sorry. my youtube is blocked by the company.

This post has been edited by aldosoesilo: Dec 15 2010, 01:16 PM

For those comparing Sony with D3100, this link may help slightly.

http://snapsort.com/compare/Nikon_D3100-vs-Sony_SLT-A33