I would say nikon D3100

I don't think he mention Sony as his preferable brand. so Please stop with your sony-ian thingy.
I doesn't help him at all..
don't you know people might have difference preference?

I am not sure about sony.
but for canon and nikon I do understand.
go for 1000D if you do mind spending your patty on entry level dslr. I will say it's a value buy for entry. since all you need is to learn the usage of DSLR.


if you are nikon go for D3000.
it is cheap, it is nice, but as cited Nikon entry level Dslr doesn't have AF-S therefore you need to go for AF-S lens. In addition this body doesn't give you movie recording feature as well.

One step ahead. you will have
D3100/D5000 and 500D/550D

It's quite comparable. even I am nikonian I will say in this model canon give more agronomic body (it's all depends on the person).
however D3100 give you more logical button positioning.

In term of feature, they are not so difference, however d3100 doesn't have build in body AF-S again! Damn for GOD sake it is Entry level DSLR
The other, I will say overall good thing come out from d3100. Not to mention it's body is very very very small 'd3000 alike'

One more thing D3100 is the only and the first Nikon DSLR which support real HD movie recording (but no microphone plug though )

I will say d3100 is better than d5000 in term of feature, therefore try not to go to d5000 unlike you really2 like that filppy2 LCD.
(I will give you an impression that you aren't pro )

If you are pro to canon go for 500D instead of 550D. I usually recommend my friend to go for 500D over 550D.
Since what I see in the feature the only massive difference is its 'MEGA pixels' well I will say in DSLR photography you wouldn't really need MPx as long as it is more than 10- is enough because you wouldn't stretch the picture taken. Unless you have a studio. and yeahhh studio doesn't use entry level DSLR.

They use 1D Mark III/IV or D3S/D3X
However that MEGA thingy will always workout to catch up newbie attention.


Canon is always better than Nikon in movie recording.
But Nikon is better than cannon is photography. Don't believe in me?
Go for youtube and querry:
digitalrev tv D3s vs 1d mark IV
You will find the proof. Sorry I can't post the vid because my office block youtube

well if you doesn't have tight budgeting go for
D7000 for nikon - else you can still get d90 (Prosummer body which still working fine) Yeahh.. this one is prosummer body therefore you can use any type of lens even without 'AF-S' unlike that entry level bodies which I mention before (D3000, D3100, D5000)
else
60D for canon - This model is a flippy LCD model for canon. I will say don't go for this one since it is prosummer body yet give that flippy LCD thingy.
I will only make you not to look professional.

lastly go for 7D if you are damn rich to spend that much money for your 1st DSLR camera and you want to spend years with your body. I see quite a good review of it.

However for beginner remember one thing.

Cheapo body + Pro lens will always works better than

Pro body + Cheapo lens.

Therefore my suggestion is go for normal body which you can afford. Not too bad yet giving you feature to learn. like D3100/D3000 or 1000D/500D
Do not try to force your money on body. instead on lens.

Don't believe in me again?
Go to youtube query:
Cheapo body + pro lens vs pro body + cheapo lens
Again sorry. my youtube is blocked by the company.

This post has been edited by aldosoesilo: Dec 15 2010, 01:16 PM

you are welcome.


Well I just giving him a clue there. it's all come back to him whether he want to buy that or no.




Well. I am not sure about that.
However I am pretty sure it is a waste for entry.




That's the best cameras they have out there, what to say
Moreover, I am just telling in natural perspective. not trying to be fanboy. but I am pretty sure of that. you can see the proof yourself.
canon has less noise control over nikon.
depends on the model though.



I am giving him the whole idea about entry up to prosummer camera. and I think that is the purpose of this thread.

Not really. even the body or the lens is not new it is still applicable.
Can't afford the 1st hand lens. why don't go for second hand?

ahaiii..


Just because you own it


Well you are such a douche . I said that Canon is better in video recording on the other hand Nikon in photography. as the proof I mention the best out of the best camera out there for each brand.
well he will eventually decide himself.
anyway I am really sorry if you are offended.
I dunno of you are that fanboy. good for you



at last you agree with this one my friend

All due respect. brp I didn't say Nvidia is better than ATI or whatever things similar to that.
This is the thing that I said.
It's not like Iphone is better than HTC or Mercides is better than BMW.

It's like bowl is better to when you use it to eat soup and plate on the other hand for dry food.
Walaweee....
it's like if you want to go for speed choose ferari over BMW, else if you want confort go for BMW.

anyway this thread suppose give a member a bigger view of camera and photography, therefore I am listing all the option he/she possibly take in the future. I don't know what is your problem with my post and whatsoever.
but if you find a problem in my post please not to make mess in the thread itself.

This post has been edited by aldosoesilo: Dec 16 2010, 09:52 AM

1000d is a good value of money if I would say. In my personal opinion though



If I were you I will go fod d7000 as it is new technology. but I heard from my friend 7D is very good as well.

take a look at these link. hopefully it is useful.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGZwk9YgeKg

http://digitalcamsreviews.com/2010/08/19/n...550d-rebel-ti2/

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/35054/niko...0-vs-canon-550d

I think they did quite a fair review.
I used my friend 550d. and I have mine d3100


I quote this from the 2nd link I gave it to you.

to be fair. I will say d3100 LCD resolution is far than better compared to 550d.

lastly they both good value of money. depends when you want to focus of investing your money.

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Added on December 21, 2010, 9:12 pmanyway consider this as well.

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Added on December 21, 2010, 9:15 pmI will say d3100 own a best technology out of those 3.


sony? no idea. but maybe it's because canon and Nikon is the pioneer? CMIIW

This post has been edited by aldosoesilo: Dec 21 2010, 09:15 PM

means you will get two lenses in one package.

if that is your consideration why don't you go for entry level dslr rather than buy prosummer level?
consider 550D, 500D, d3100 as well. good for learn.

consider about 60d it has a better feature IMO, unless you go for d7000

consider 1000D,450D and D3000

revision D3100 is Rm 1950-2100 <= pretty tempting price tag isn't it? hahahaha

Broo.. good luck on your photography journey.

you might want to consider d3000, 450d, 1000d.
they all good for travelling. light and small

check on d3000, I don't think you will say that heavy, unless you are using BAZOKA lens.

how about nissin di622 or di866? it's working pretty fine w/ mine.

http://www.camera-catalog.com/compares/pop..._canon_eos_500d
it might give you better idea.

I would say d7000 is better than 60d. IMO.
I don't want to sult the brand fight *again*

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Added on December 29, 2010, 3:34 pmor you cna go for 7D it is good.
yeahh comparable to d7000

This post has been edited by aldosoesilo: Dec 29 2010, 03:34 PM

which FF you are talking about?? model?

go for canon 450D or nikon d3000
the price will be around your budget

hahaha
because I am curious which FF model you can get with 4.5 including kit lens of course since he is new.

if that so go for entry level camera.
550D is good, d5000 is good, d3100 is good. 500D is good as well.
even 1000D for learning purpose.