owh..ok..thnx for explained

Im using Perma Glass also, usually i only apply it once every six months with three coatings. How you applied yours?

Bro you wash and wax the car by your own aaa? You damn sayang your car man... respect

i think some of us do !! is good time spent on a weekend is just like exercising and saves alot of money ... unless u get those expensive stuff.. i doubt outside car wash....those below rm15 will use anything expensive on our car..

i wash my car and after that clay bar it, i just use 1layer and then quick detail it with meg's UQD since UQD made from polymer also. the result very smooth on surface and also no finger print on paint

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Added on November 25, 2010, 1:17 pmi enjoy wash my own car with my hand and also can save a-lot $$$ and the result is on what we do..

This post has been edited by dadurtyz: Nov 25 2010, 01:17 PM

fusso coat consider polish or wax? for new paint, i think wax enough to protect the paint.

M line = B line + cosmetic appearance
H line = M line + active safety + a lil convenience

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Added on November 25, 2010, 1:27 pmhaha cos u chose the right colour.... u PE is chiffon green right... if u r driving BLACK... u will know is insufficient

btw do u guys notice that actually the colour of the skirting on PE ... actually looks slightly dull then the body? haha only noticeable at certain sunlight angle and distance... i purposely look for it to notice it.. cos some inspira owner complain their ride has this problem..haha i notice my PE also got abit different...

This post has been edited by khtee: Nov 25 2010, 01:27 PM

Just replaced my ATF at RM124 for 4 litres plus labor RM18, total RM142.00.

ATF was replaced at 26k KM. The magnetic drain plug was heavily coated with metal shavings.

wow.any pic??

Wax. For claying, don't do so often BUT IT IS MOST IMPORTANT STEP FOR THE FIRST TIME, Clay the car 6 month once. When u wash , use ur hand feel the surface,


if want to learn more. check out KC blog,

Ya agree. The last time my family car, the kit wax like after 3weeks then totally gone ady.. Cant feel the smoothness and water beading at all.. After change to Soft99 can last a bit longer lah.. around 1mth+ like that..

Ya wei.. I dont like sending my car for car wash.. Main hentam only and not clean too. Now stay in condo ady so have to sent to car wash lah.. But then with ONR.. Bye bye to car wash.

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Added on November 25, 2010, 7:22 pmOk here is a RON95 fuel comparison done by kereta.info.

http://kereta.info/differences-of-ron-95-p...tex-esso-mobil/

First we need to clear the basic question. Whats the difference between RON95 and RON97?
The only difference is RON97 can resist knock more better than RON95. That means it can enable ur engine to produce more power IF YOUR ENGINE IS RUNNING MID TO HIGH COMPRESSION (eg 10.5:1 and above) Then the anti-knock properties in the petrol will be used to its advantage. However if ur engine is low comp, 9.5:1 and below.. U would actually feel a lost of power in your car due to the slower combustion nature of the petrol.

As we can see from the videos,
Shell claims lower friction, Petronas claims more power, Caltex claims it has Techron, BHP claims they threw every single shit they can get inside and Esso/Mobil claims all of the above.. So whose bullcrap do we buy?

From the video. Petronas Ron95 burns the longest. This is consistent with Ron97 petrol where the combustion is slightly slower and more stable to enable high comp engine to compress the mixture further b4 it ignites it. As for BHP having the largest flame and Esso,Mobil and Caltex burns the fastest, this is more suitable for low to mid comp engines as the combustion chamber when the piston is at TDC is larger than hi-comp engines. Therefore the more rapid the expansion of gas in the chamber will result in more horsepower and torque. esso,mobil and caltex burns the fastest, which means maximum amount of torque is created as early as possible, causing the highest combustion chamber pressure to push the pistons down as fast as possible.

Ignition timing is always slightly before TDC. This is because when a mixtures is combusted, it constricts first b4 it expands. Therefore as a mixture is ignited slightly before TDC, the mixture will constrict, causing lesser pressure as the piston moves up and when the pistons move past its TDC, the mixture is timed just nice to expand at the same moment. MAX efficiency, MAX torque.

Have you heard of engine knock?
One way of overcoming engine knock is to allow the fuel to be ignited later in the compression stroke, this means having less ignition advance. If the fuel is ignited later, then the pressures above the piston will be less during the early stages of the power stroke. This results in engine knock being removed.

Therefore for Campro engines with 10:1 compression ratio, the best fuel would be Esso/Mobil/Caltex, as Campro compression is not high nor too low. We are placed at the 'sweet' spot to prevent engine knock if RON95 is used, but also not much room of advantage if we were to use RON97.



This post has been edited by ZenGTMM: Nov 25 2010, 07:23 PM

well i also not feel engine knocking happen in our campro when using RON95, just the difference with RON97 is performance and ofcoz 97 produce more torque so more mileage.

what petrol brand u use ZenGTMM? i just use petronas since 1st day collect the car my SA fill full tank with pertronas RON95 and i feel petronas petrol suite campro the best

This post has been edited by dadurtyz: Nov 25 2010, 07:28 PM

How did u come to this conclusion from the video and facts given? .... if we dont consider those additive for friction modification...
basic physics .... should be burn hotter... or burn longer... means more energy ? isnt it?

i oni know ron97 works better on cars that need the power like ferrari,fiat.

I use petronas coz got x5 points...hehe

But i tested shell can go further wor..

I c bhp got nobody at kg kayu ara there..shell got 10 car..bhp got 1 car.
esso opposite shell and bhp..chaplap edi..haha

mobil hard to find edi..caltex more suitable for tough car

imho..hehe

I have used bhp for my first tank, shell for 2nd, esso for 3rd and 4th tank.. Then partially will rm20 with shell when my tank ran almost dry and the car was choking a bit..

So far what i can deduce is, bhp gives good power, best mileage among all 3 tanks. Esso gives best amount of pick up. Im staying in subang and every morning i go to college i can feel the difference.. Shell so far i dont feel good.. Engine feels heavy, even on the 2nd partial fill.. The revs like dont want to climb.. And mileage was poor. On my full tank of Shell i was travelling on highway 85% of the time.. Nvr speed more than 130/140 max.. Went to KLIA, then went to seremban and back from subang. Got poorer mileage compared to town driving.. I will be giving Caltex a try for my next tank..

I used to work part time data entry in NanoTag Malaysia. The one that they put nanotag into diesel. I was in charge of entering all those test data and results that were in printed form cos the softcopy was destroyed. There were at least 20binders of test and results from different fuel companies about their additives and emission standards and nanotags specification. I had to manually type into Word and save it as a softcopy. SO i got to read the reports too.. Man.. They were super detailed..

That time there was only Ron92 and Ron97. They did test so analyze emission standards from different fuel using 5 different types of cars (different CC and compression ratio). Thats how i picked up this knowledge lah..

If basic physics, burning hotter and longer means more energy release. But in a combustion engine, the mixture is aneamic (lesser oxygen so that the engine doesnt burn lean and overheat). Engine needs maximum energy to be transferred from fuel form to gas form. Thats why we need the mixture to combust, prevent excessive loss of energy in light form or sound form. As compression goes higher + cylinder head heat, petrol will combust spontaneously at a certain point. Ron97 is able to resist early combustion due to its more stable and slow burn nature, allowing the cylinder head to compress the mixture a bit more b4 it detonates itself too.

Agreed. I also feel shell less power. Mileage also poor.

same here..pump shell 95...feel quite slow pick up....compare to my regular esso 95.... still thinks esso 95 still the best...

Friction modification tech went wrong i suppose.. Adding extra friction..

I already changed to Esso 95

Agree ... agree .. but i still dont quite get how u come to that conclusion based on the posting on kereta.info ? or u have any other source that says caltex/esso/mobil combust better? sorry sorry. i felt i sound like i m challenging ur point of view.. but .. i m just curious....

but i do think we shouldn't mix fuel tat often? ... the additives of different brands might be reactive to one another? but then again.. maybe the reaction gives more powaahhh??? hahaha