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post Nov 24 2010, 04:23 PM

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anyone ever got problems with noisy front brake calipers for their beloved Persona? Mine is noisy and it goes "klok klok klok klok" when going pass yellow lines in straight roads.

really2 annoying. it goes away when i put my foot on the brake pedal and apply very slight pressure...so confirmed its the calipers.
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post Nov 24 2010, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(jasondotcom @ Nov 24 2010, 04:23 PM)
anyone ever got problems with noisy front brake calipers for their beloved Persona? Mine is noisy and it goes "klok klok klok klok" when going pass yellow lines in straight roads.

really2 annoying. it goes away when i put my foot on the brake pedal and apply very slight pressure...so confirmed its the calipers.
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QUOTE(jasontantenghuat @ Nov 24 2010, 04:33 PM)
Yup same problem here. Like driving lorry.
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So did you do anything to it??? Warranty claim or anything?
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post Nov 25 2010, 02:05 PM

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Just replaced my ATF at RM124 for 4 litres plus labor RM18, total RM142.00.

ATF was replaced at 26k KM. The magnetic drain plug was heavily coated with metal shavings. ohmy.gif
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QUOTE(khtee @ Nov 26 2010, 08:50 AM)
Agree ... agree .. but i still dont quite get how u come to that conclusion based on the posting on kereta.info ? or u have any other source that says caltex/esso/mobil combust better? sorry sorry. i felt i sound like i m challenging ur point of view.. but .. i m just curious.... wink.gif

but i do think we shouldn't mix fuel tat often? ...  the additives of different brands might be reactive to one another? but then again.. maybe the reaction gives more powaahhh??? hahaha
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worried mixing fuel brands? never bother. been driving more than 10 years and with many cars before. never had any sort of issue at all.

switching from ron92 to ron97 back and forth and now between ron97 and ron95 no issues also.

just that carburator engines might require retarding its ignition timing a bit if using lower ron numbers eg. from 97 to 92 or down to 95. but then once retarded, switching back to 97 would give less torque and power and need to increase ignition timing again. so better stick to the same ron fuel. I played soooooo much with such settings back in the days when i drove a carburator engine Honda Civic. tongue.gif Oh not to forget, carburator engined Pajero and Wira too.

as for FI engines (fuel injection engines / new gen engines), ignition timings are auto adjusted accordingly when it sensed different ron fuels are used. so that to optimize the engine performance.

BUT...... its a fact that each and every car manufacturer and car model / makes designed their engines to run on specific min ron fuels. SO..... any higher ron fuels would be useless. Meaning, most of the time..... its only in the mind. To me, i always use the min ron fuels for all my cars. Never bothered about those ron97 or vpower nonsense. Why? Because its a NA engine car..... it does not require any higher ron fuel. its designed to run optimally with its minimum fuel ron. So putting in higher ron will not make it any more powerful or better.

Its all marketing strategy from fuel companies. Marketing is indeed.....POWERFUL. Can cuci ppl's minds. laugh.gif laugh.gif Too bad dun work on me (brain wash).

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QUOTE(ys2719 @ Nov 26 2010, 01:46 PM)
Mate, r u sure about tis?  blink.gif My M/T only could run under 10 seconds after 1st service. after 2nd service my car bcom weaker. mayb da ECU already recognised my driving style.

i juz fulfilled my tank wif RON95=RM65.00 (usually RON97=RM75.00). wat i can say about da differences r unbelievable! RON95 sounds cheap like 30 liters make u save rm9.00 from RON97 but not really. i seldom use RON95 since da v 1st day i got my car, so i can notice da diffence clearly.

1. throttle response bcom slower
2. i could hear da engine underpowered sound wen i change gear in low RPM (like engine almost off)
3. power unstable wen i cruise at low RPM
4. engine sounds louder at idle as like it breathe harder.
5. wen i get down from car, i could feel da engine temperature is higher
6. all those above gave me a horrible driving experience, vv horrible
7. fuel consumption from 8.8l/100km to 10.1l/100km, for same routine trip

*i used RON95 bcos i couldn't any gas station within 50km tat sells RON97 during long distance driving.

those r my experience wif RON95. i use SHELL bcos here we don have BHP n Caltex n so on.
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Possible causes:-
Overfilled engine oil after 2nd service causing you to feel its heavier.

From my point of view:-
1. Throttle is fast and barely lags at all (of course it will never be like cable type which is the best as it has this direct feel to it and its faster even). First generation persona and gen2 have laggy throttle response.
2. Engine is smooth and powerful
3. Smooth engine
4. Pretty silent except the radiator fan coming on. Persona Elegance models are louder due to double fan design. It makes a low pitched humming sound if compared with the early Persona models with single large fan. Not that the earlier models are any more quieter in this section. But if compred, PE is a little louder for sure. Don't shoot me cuz i sat in a few already and compared. So i am 100% sure on this.
5. Temp felt higher during hot day wink.gif
6. So far its all damn good.
7. Fuel consumption is a constant 6.9 to 7.2l/100km same routine trips.

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post Nov 27 2010, 09:56 AM

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I was told that SC can remap / reflash the ecu / tcu for more power or better fc????

Any idea about this???
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post Nov 29 2010, 09:09 AM

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QUOTE(loong2020 @ Nov 28 2010, 09:49 PM)
not sure...but mine is auto.....as for manual i think once you remove it, you can rev it higher and slightly higher topspeed...from what i observe..la...before removing this, 180km is the max...but once i remove that stopper....can climb sommore till 185/190km.....
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rev higher? with that stopper in place, mine can rev very easily to rev cut at 7.2k rpm. that stopper is there for a reason which is to prevent unnecessary wear to the drive by wire pedal internal components.
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post Nov 30 2010, 09:06 AM

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QUOTE(fenrir0402 @ Nov 29 2010, 05:28 PM)
high 5 to that, i'm gonna take my car abt early jan, the feeling definitely better than saga, and i might need to do travelling often between kl and pg. eek eek eek...
i took some car test around the showroom yesterday, at first i wanna buy saga se, but  when the SA convinced me to try persona, it was....amazing, the cruising speed and the pickup is good, and i also drive like siao kia that time, i made rough cornering until the SA said he might get heart atk if i do that again(i shouldnt play need for speed doh.gif )

ok here's why i choose b line persona:
1) 1.6
2) bigger compartment(make love easier, oh sorry sorry just joking  tongue.gif )
3) bigger trunk(can keep chainsaw to make kl chainsaw massacre)
4) bigger tyres(i dont like saga wheelbase small like men's tities)
5) 4 power windows(facelift saga also got, why dont take that? imo saga facelifted become incompatible, if you're not a sport car, dont use sporty look)
6) gear clutch and steering better control(shift into the future, nissan slogan wor...)
7) look terre(big car can frighten ppl)
8) no airbag(wtf?! no airbag also wanna buy? ahem, got my own reasons. acutally airbag will make us throw caution into the wind, drive fast, then, even if you wear iron man suit also cant save you, due to g-force. ae86 also no airbag, no abs+ebd, but still become cultural icon? think abt it...)
9) i can afford it
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humm the main reason why i chose B line over M or H line is because, i am not willing to spend more for a damn local car. No doubt that Persona is a good car though. But as long as the car is stuck with a damn local made logo brand....... no thanks tongue.gif Think of it, cars in this damn country is so damn overpriced. Even the damn local cars are damn f***ing overpriced.

Damn damn!!! laugh.gif


Added on November 30, 2010, 9:14 am
QUOTE(rckh @ Nov 29 2010, 05:51 PM)
Persona is not cheap to maintain.  Buy other cheaper makes with higher specs.  to suit your budget. B-Line not recommended.
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okleh... FC same with MyVi 1.3
Built QC also quite good for this price range.
Of course be smart and do not get cheated by SC by letting them throwing at you all sorts of nonsense add ons to ur car during service.

Changing engine oil, ATF, radiator coolant, brake oil according to mileage based on the service booklet..... no need to follow SC's requirements (They are there to suck your money). And 10k oil change interval under warranty is quite low cost of maintenance already.

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post Nov 30 2010, 09:31 AM

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QUOTE(fenrir0402 @ Nov 30 2010, 09:25 AM)
i agreed with what you said, i missed out that part lol.
hmmm, it is very obvious that 25yrs, proton still cant compete with other carmakers internationally. proton starts from rebadging mitsubishi cars, cut ties with them, shake lotus' nut, then come back kiss mitsubishi ass rclxm9.gif  no offense, we NEVER had our 1st national car in 1985, the year i was born.(this is how pride can blinded our reality).
the reasons stems from the protectionism from the government, that it still maintain the car price advantage.
of course the emergence of perodua put proton head to head with it, putting proton somewhat in carmaker competition race. too bad, protectionism kicks in again, perodua can never make sedan as it only for proton. but so what? myvi a subcompact hatchback car that cant even have sex in the car, but still that car is the best selling car!

regarding overprice, i cant agree more than you. malaysia as a country that produce their own car, shouldnt bear the name like 2nd highest in the world in car price. if honda city removed import duty, it would be almost same price as proton saga(shame on you), if vios doesnt imposed on import duty, cheaper than viva( cry.gif ). a friend of mine who lived in america for 10 yrs before, he said, if you can afford toyota camry 2.4v in malaysia, you can afford ferrari in america( doh.gif )

i hope those read this post dont personal atk me like(if you dont like proton car then you keluar dari malaysia!), this proves that you're barbaric than cavemen, i can recommend you to stay the best cave. it's true, i got this racial slur before when i was commenting abt how bad a game, yes a game before, and guess what? personal atk, very immature.

if you're not and discuss this issue like a grown up man/woman, i salute you and buy you a packet of condom icon_rolleyes.gif
FC for persona, i heard is more conservative than myvi, that's why i dont wanna buy myvi. can anyone rectify this?
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post Nov 30 2010, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(fenrir0402 @ Nov 30 2010, 09:44 AM)
then high 5, cos not only government sucks, malaysian sucks too, our mentality are close to retard. i bet 2020 never realised and there will be 2040, 2060, 2080 or whatever catchy numbers they can come up with.
talk abt driving car on the road, you see how stupid they drive? ppl say kl ppl drive like daredevil(not like spiderman meh?), but i think kl ppl drive smart, but still sucks. parking, sudden brake, no signal, pass red traffic lights, etc  doh.gif
with all suckers and f***ers in this country, and that's what we are, and i still cant sleep well last night(2nd night), sleep at 12, woke up at 4.30am playing lotro. cos i'm too excited abt my new crappy car, some1 must've wanna kill me if i stay close to him 5m, very contradict each other this statement, no choice la, i always drive a bike, this is my 1st car, no need suffer rain anymore(yesterday back from work baru kena, luckily live nearby to office)although proton sucks big time, but i see inspira as a good car(of course la, rebranding ma, malaysia boleh ma, take out that logo and modify to lancer lagi shiok ma)

haha, anyway just wanna start a healthy discussion, if everyone mentality is open, not easily offended, and can take critics well and and transform it into drive force, i'm 120% malaysia will be better than sing-gay-pore
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QUOTE(chteh0721 @ Nov 30 2010, 10:04 AM)
not only KL, it's everywhere in malaysia, cause we're Malaysian rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Nov 30 2010, 10:07 AM)
LOL.. Yeah I agree with you.. 25years down the road.. No matter how much we discuss here, we wont be able to make much of a difference.. The real difference is if we are able to turn our voice into action.. Change the government. I nvr say BN is bad, neither do i say PKR is good. We must let our voice and power be heard. Let them know that they wont have a nice A/C room to sit in if they ignore our voice. Everybody u see around complaints bout this and that.. But ask them to go vote, they say its a waste of time lah.. Same results every year lah.. Corruption lah... They will change the vote later lah... Blah blah blah... Its not about the car price whether its cheap or not cheap.. Its the regulation and the way they tax our car.. If we were to enforce stricter regulation on emission standards like Europe, our cars wont just be cheaper, but much more efficient and environmental friendly too.. Any car maker can bring in a cheap car, but u must know our country is here to survive beyond 2020, more like till the end of time (2012 tongue.gif ) We must look at everything as a whole.. How our future generation are going to survive.. how clean and fresh the air is.. Just look at singapore.. They are able to create a clean environment with good quality air and a lot of trees.. Look at Putrajaya, we have more land than Singapork but we have recorded a higher avg temp over there due to poor landscaping and the lack of trees. Thus causing more electric to be used for A/C blah blah blah..

Do we really want a 100storey tower? Do we need one?? Yeah we MAY need it.. Its good for country long term development, but the real important issues to be settled are the problems we are having now, not the problems we are going to have in the future. Traffic jams in KL, low grade petrol and diesel quality, no minimum standards for cars (airbag etc).. They think every ppl are born to drive isit?? See how many ppl in msia sucks at driving, inconsiderate bastards that dont even bother signalling and hogging fast lane.. Gomen always try to reduce our speed limit, saying speed kills etc etc.. But what really kills ppl is the lack of skills in driving.. If speed kills, why a F1 or rally driver doesnt die? Its the skills they have that allows them to remain in control. The unskilled drivers on the road are what causes MOST of the accidents. Other people have to be aware of these people on the roads. And those ah bengs on the road.. Want to potong here and there but causing unnecessary braking and avoidance to other drivers. I dont mind if u speed and swish around the whole highway, as long as u dont interrupt other ppls driving pace and dont create unnecessary trouble for other people.. Then go ahead. I support u.  thumbup.gif
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uhhhhhh......... hello 3 of you........ quite a bit out of topic leh...... shakehead.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(jackyap84 @ Nov 30 2010, 07:55 PM)
leaking news saying that RON97 will be incresed RM0.15 tonight again.
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nvm. just dun touch my ron95.
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post Dec 1 2010, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Nov 30 2010, 11:03 PM)
Hahahha.. They want to push everybody to use Ron95.. Civic Type-R and turbocharged car owners are definitely going to get pissed.
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aduh fuel talks again. already v10 still talking about fuel. shakehead.gif
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post Dec 1 2010, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(slater_iz @ Dec 1 2010, 03:40 PM)
today I service my persona mileage 40,000km kena rm270.70 w/o engine oil bcoz i bring my own oil...and that is the 2nd SC i went bcos the 1st 1 don wan to accept bcos i bring my own oil...

2nd 1 oso don want to accept actually...but i said if u don wan change engine oil,nvm just change other parts la..engine oil i go change other place la..then he said warranty will void..then i said void,void la...

last 2 services, i oso bring my own oil bcos SC only sell Petronas oil..
why i don wan use petronas oil?because after 1000++km my engine will "gegar"..few of my frens oso experience the same..

i saw the notice in the SC from HQ, effective 17 july kenot accept if customer bring their own parts..this is unfair!!!

previously, i use shell helix ultra fully for 10,000km..very smooth..
now i use castrol edge fully, smoother than shell...

the main point that i want to higlight here is, we pay for the labour charge what?(rm120) so why want to force customer to use petronas oil???if it is proton oil, i will consider...
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what to do. its warranty policy.

depending on the SC you go to, some allows u to bring ur own engine oil. some hv cheaper labor.
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shit man if Persona replacement is going to look like this i would be damn f***ing jealous!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I want!!!!!!!! MINUS the STUPID NAME TUAH though.

Image borrowed from PaulTan.com

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From this website below:-
http://paultan.org/2010/12/02/proton-tuah-...ration-persona/


Added on December 2, 2010, 4:11 pm
QUOTE(switch_133 @ Dec 2 2010, 03:13 PM)
add me to the list
switch_133 = brilliant red H/L

sent my car to Juru SC yesterday. complained about the engine felt heavier after 1st service. the foreman tuned the ECU. he said something like changing the offset from 125 to 98. I dunno what exactly he tuned  tongue.gif  now engine felt smoother. no more 'roaring' when overtaking other cars at highway. gonna test further to see the fuel consumption.

btw, i got 2300 rpm at 80km/h. when accelerating, the engine revs up to 4k rpm a while before going down to 2.5k rpm. Is that normal?
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if ur talking about automatic. yea. that is how it works.

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post Dec 3 2010, 08:53 AM

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QUOTE(fenrir0402 @ Dec 2 2010, 04:23 PM)
f***! moments ago a bank car loan officer interviewed me, and i accidentally slipped that i just work for 6 months and they said they maybe wont approve 90%, maybe only 85% loan! and still need guarantor! shit! f***ed!
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QUOTE(fenrir0402 @ Dec 2 2010, 04:52 PM)
rhb islamic f***ing bank, the motherrhbf***er so bias and my income so f***ing good and my monthly installment less than a f***ing quarter! f***!


Added on December 2, 2010, 5:00 pm

i damn so jealous at you! tmd f***ing bias! sorry not scold you, its them! My SA said my age is a factor, i just have 1 year working experience! how? which bank you applied?
my SA said bcos the low interest, the condition would be much stricter. that's the problem lo...
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normal la friend. dun get pissed off. btw, age is a factor. My bro kena already and i had to become his guarantor. for me, my first car last time i also hv to hav guarantor because of my lack of years working. And then when i got my Persona, my loan was approved in 2 days only and i was working in this new company for less than a month but historically with more than 5 years working already. try EON Bank. They are good. I like this bank actually.

QUOTE(khtee @ Dec 2 2010, 05:35 PM)
i took eon bank.... my interest was 3.8 or 3.7 ... tat range la...
maybe u should try apply other bank first.... while waiting .. maybe u r lucky .... they jsut say so much thing but in the end. they still approve urs?
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Mine is 3.75% interest rate.

QUOTE(fenrir0402 @ Dec 2 2010, 05:37 PM)
kinda agree, who doesnt wanna make money, if they dont approve then they mai no f***ing income. yours were 9yrs? hmmm, if the interest 3.75 my d'p is add rm10++ shit la, go f*** cow la
next monday i wanna buy my favourite plate number d, *****, the loan not approve then i mai keong kan? sorry moderator i'm kinda pissed, need to use foul language smile.gif

f***, their braintard head still insist for guarantor! cos i dont have loan record and my age factor! ta ma de diao ni lao mu!
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chill la bro. got other banks.

QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Dec 2 2010, 06:47 PM)
If Persona R really looks like that.. And sell for 60k..  I bet the current gen Vios and City would have a tough time selling, and 2nd hand value will be terrible.  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
Chillax lah.. hah.a. Bro how old are you?? Me 22years old.. Not working and dont have any employment letter.. I just go to CIMB bank, get 9 years loan @4.00%.
They ask a lot of questions.. I say want to buy HL lah.. Then i told them to check my CIMB account.. I told them i got fixed investment income in Dubai..  tongue.gif  Every month i pinjam RM3.5k from my mom.. Then keep in the bank lah... DONT WITHDRAW it out.. Just let the balance slowly grow... Then time to time just do some small transactions like withdraw Rm100.. Rm250.. Rm500.. Rm300 from the bank every 4-5days.. Showing like u got activity and using the money like that lah.. As long as u got a lot of money coming in, little bit going out.. Then can kautim easily ady.. They approve for me RM48500 loan.. Add with the discount SA gave me i just pay RM660 to get the car.. No d/payment also..  flex.gif  flex.gif
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full loan 100% ah dude? Not bad can get 3.5k every month from mum oh. So nice. haha.

QUOTE(DaBestOne @ Dec 3 2010, 03:22 AM)
Omg... looks damn cun thumbup.gif
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i couldn't agree more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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QUOTE(fenrir0402 @ Dec 3 2010, 09:30 AM)
um, i dont dare to ask my dad to become guarantor, cos he bought new house, and ask ppl to become guarantor, sometimes like kinda embarrassing that person, and summore a lot of procedures, make ppl frustrated at the bank. any other bank that i can go for?
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QUOTE(khtee @ Dec 3 2010, 09:40 AM)
Do give EON bank.. or affin bank a try... they are more interested in vehicle loan business .... compare to other banks....
i too didnt want my parents or sibling to be my guarantor...do not want .... them to carry the name as guarantor.. that might be reviewed by bank when they in their turn apply for other loans..
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Like me, my younger bro needs help for guarantor as my parents cannot. being the eldest bro...... what to do?
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QUOTE(fenrir0402 @ Dec 3 2010, 09:56 AM)
hah, i'm 2nd bro in my family, a good bro like you not easily to be found lo... when the f***ing rhb islamic bank need guarantor, i think of my bro, then he ee ee eh eh like dont wanna be, then say refer to dad. sometimes i feel like i'm the elder bro compared to him, cos i cared for others more.

i dont give a damn abt guarantor, and i wont secure any. cos i just borrow rm41800 nia ma kanne, like borrow money to buy c4 from najis like that. note: 1 single javelin missile: $86014.80. le ma, imagine you use bmw to bomb a tank only difference is that you die when you ram your bmw on a tank, leaving it unscathed, but you grow wings to the heaven.

keep on ranting:

le ma, guarantor got anything to do with low interest? every1 when borrow money, there's a risk impending, no1 can tell you you're gonna be fired in xxx, rhb islamic f***ing bank should use their retarded brain to think, why other bank can approve and not yours, why you must use guarantor? i ask my maid to be guarantor can? so that if i cant pay you back, dont tarik my car la, here you can f*** my maid XXX times.
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QUOTE(fenrir0402 @ Dec 3 2010, 12:53 PM)
the rhb f***ers seems to soften a bit cos i told that **** i wont secure any guarantor, you want, approve my loan, dont want, kick my ass away and i go get other bank loan.then they ask this ask that again, kanne, fresh grad is more capable to make money ok?

p.s hmmm, LYN seems censored a wide array of foul languages, including *****, p***, lanciao , testing testing 123...
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cool it bro. this is a public forum with all forumers practicing proper manners in here. mind ur language please and please change ur avatar pic. i think you need to go have a big glass of teh c peng to cool down. smile.gif See you back in here again with a cooler attitude ok bro? Chill man.

QUOTE(mafarizan @ Dec 3 2010, 12:25 PM)
Good .... with 205/55/16 tyre....
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hey dude...... do you mind posting some photos of ur ride with the wheels???? I would like to see it. Cuz i am thinking of going either 205/50R16 OR 205/55R16 OR 205/45/R17. UNDECIDED now....... sad.gif



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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Dec 3 2010, 11:44 PM)
kena outrunned by Lancer GT aka Inspira today sad.gif
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with ur persona??? OF COURSE laaaaaa. hahaha..... different cars with different engine capacity.
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Anyone have loud squealing noises from the rear drum brakes???? It's super annoying. Gonna have it inspected or replaced (brake shoe) as i bought the parts already.

The squeal is not due to thinning brake shoes. It is due to the braking materials in the shoe itself. Some can be corrected by grinding off a bit of the upper layer of the shoes. Some can't.

The squeal comes about during crawling traffic jams whereby there is a lot of sub 40kmh braking or slowing downs. Most noticeable is from 20kmh till zero. It is really loud at times. Especially when the brakes are still cold or come in contact with water right after car washes or rain.

Videos of it below:-

http://s43.photobucket.com/albums/e370/nha...nt=DSCN3377.mp4
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QUOTE(oldskool AE @ Dec 9 2010, 12:19 PM)
Any way to drain back the over fill oil hehe
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QUOTE(khtee @ Dec 9 2010, 12:36 PM)
just unplug the oil drain? but be warned ... it will be very very very messy... unless u are skillful enuff and have big container... oh ya u need to plug it back in fast enuff.. u dont wanna over drain them out right?

so if u r not used to change your own engine oil... best if u bring it to a workshop.. (cos i think sc might ignore u.. unless is clearly way above the max line)..
it is just too much hassle to be done by urself.. not to mention... removing exactly 200ml or 300ml .... is quite challenging...
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yes. unplugging the drain plug will do. considering the mess, its best to drive it to the nearest workshop and have it drained. labor cost would usually cost RM10.

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