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wyyam
post Dec 29 2010, 10:26 PM

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Any1 can help me?
why when i play football game (PES 2011)
when the long shot the ball .. the screen moving.. the images become blur..
play oso like eyes pain n dizzy la..
can solve this problem or is it like this?
juz change to 23" monitor.. old 19" monitor wont like this.
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post Dec 29 2010, 11:01 PM

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have you set to native resolution for 23"?

btw, what model?

This post has been edited by yuka: Dec 29 2010, 11:01 PM
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post Dec 29 2010, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Dec 29 2010, 08:19 PM)
I guess it come down to either wait a bit longer or get it now with that cut throat price. hmm.gif  Till this year, LED monitor till 24". Maybe early next year, 27" LED will coming.

LED is much more better than CCFL. And over a few yrs, CCFL will getting dim and the light uneven over whole monitor. LED have more vibrant color and better white. And won't dim over yrs.

CCFL is almost at the edge age tech and replacing by LED. So buying LED now will not get outdate in few yrs coming.

I have 2 laptop which 1 is LED LCD. For 4yrs, the LED laptop still look good and no show of aging. While CCFL laptop getting dim and color not as good as LED LCD.

So time tell me that LED LCD is better. But not the price. sad.gif
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Until LED cost is going down near to CCFL, CCFL won't diminish so soon, although it is expected to phase out, just it may take longer than most people expected.

After all, price is one of most influential factor that dictate a product sales.
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post Dec 29 2010, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(wyyam @ Dec 29 2010, 10:26 PM)
Any1 can help me?
why when i play football game (PES 2011)
when the long shot the ball .. the screen moving.. the images become blur..
play oso like eyes pain n dizzy la..
can solve this problem or is it like this?
juz change to 23" monitor.. old 19" monitor wont like this.
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lol, your 19" is crt?

lcd is like that one, fast moving image dem blurry.
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post Dec 30 2010, 01:12 AM

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QUOTE(yuka @ Dec 29 2010, 11:01 PM)
have you set to native resolution for 23"?

btw, what model?
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set liao..
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Added on December 30, 2010, 1:13 am
QUOTE(romentheposmen @ Dec 29 2010, 11:53 PM)
lol, your 19" is crt?

lcd is like that one, fast moving image dem blurry.
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no ah.. Is lcd..
See oso blur.. Haha

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post Dec 30 2010, 02:12 AM

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QUOTE(wyyam @ Dec 30 2010, 01:12 AM)
no ah.. Is lcd..
See oso blur.. Haha
the monitor have options for slow, fast, faster mode. try them out see if there's any differences. but expect none la i think samsung put there for fun only.
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post Dec 30 2010, 04:30 AM

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Are there still problems with the U2311H whereby colours on the left is cool, the right is warm or vice versa(can't remember tongue.gif )?

I'm planning to use it extensively for Photo Editing and this problem is very serious lol. And watching movies/surfing the internet also la biggrin.gif

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post Dec 30 2010, 08:40 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Dec 29 2010, 11:31 PM)
Until LED cost is going down near to CCFL, CCFL won't diminish so soon, although it is expected to phase out, just it may take longer than most people expected.

After all, price is one of most influential factor that dictate a product sales.
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Sometime I wonder are this component really that expensive. Is the manufacturing try to cashing in on the new product? Cause it is the only way to make big profit before everybody jumping in. hmm.gif

LED LCD is not really new. It been 4yrs in the market and sony is the first to introduce LED LCD in their laptop. Well, maybe we here catchng slow probaly. Because of the price and spending power.

LED LCD have less component and less wattage to generate light compare CCFL. It has thinner LCD too. My Laptop LED LCD only 4mm thick.
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QUOTE(ozak @ Dec 30 2010, 08:40 AM)
Sometime I wonder are this component really that expensive. Is the manufacturing try to cashing in on the new product? Cause it is the only way to make big profit before everybody jumping in. hmm.gif

LED LCD is not really new. It been 4yrs in the market and sony is the first to introduce LED LCD in their laptop. Well, maybe we here catchng slow probaly. Because of the price and spending power.

LED LCD have less component and less wattage to generate light compare CCFL. It has thinner LCD too. My Laptop LED LCD only 4mm thick.
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One laptop already needs maybe 20~30 LEDs (depends on size) to provide enough back-light, CCFL might only need 2 sticks, 2 little LED might already cost close to 1 CCFL right now so it's still much expensive to produce, not to talk about those monitors and huge size TV.

Less wattage because of the bulb but consider all the components that needs to lights up the panel (yes don't forget that LCD panel also produce light) also consume power, so in the end CCFL still wins in price at the moment, until manufacturer can cheaply produce a bright and durable LED can the monitor makers reduce their cost.

China is catching up on the LED manufacturing, brighter LED but the durability and consistency still lacks, the lifetime still worst than the normal light bulb, so we might expect another few more years before IPS monitor makers fully transition to LED back-light.
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hi thr all, i m finding a gud LED screen wif affordable price.. based on my survey i found out da best product currently in da market is Dell 24" ST420L (Rm609 with Dynamic Contrast Ratio 5million) and Acer 23" S231HL(RM525 with Dynamic Contrast Ratio 12million)

Which 1 shuld i choose? (>.<)
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QUOTE(Siu_Ming @ Dec 30 2010, 10:23 AM)
hi thr all, i m finding a gud LED screen wif affordable price.. based on my survey i found out da best product currently in da market is Dell 24" ST420L (Rm609 with Dynamic Contrast Ratio 5million) and Acer 23" S231HL(RM525 with Dynamic Contrast Ratio 12million)

Which 1 shuld i choose? (>.<)
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of coz la 24" . Watching movie syiok woooo thumbup.gif

5 mil contrast ratio and 12 mil? seem big in numbers but doesn't effect that much lah.

GUd luk thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(wyyam @ Dec 29 2010, 10:26 PM)
Any1 can help me?
why when i play football game (PES 2011)
when the long shot the ball .. the screen moving.. the images become blur..
play oso like eyes pain n dizzy la..
can solve this problem or is it like this?
juz change to 23" monitor.. old 19" monitor wont like this.
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Sometime is due to your computer response slow. what is your computer system spec? because 1400x900 to 1920x1080 is a jump for computer performance.

QUOTE(Siu_Ming @ Dec 30 2010, 10:23 AM)
hi thr all, i m finding a gud LED screen wif affordable price.. based on my survey i found out da best product currently in da market is Dell 24" ST420L (Rm609 with Dynamic Contrast Ratio 5million) and Acer 23" S231HL(RM525 with Dynamic Contrast Ratio 12million)

Which 1 shuld i choose? (>.<)
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Mind you those xx million Dynamic contrast ratio just marketing advertising. Samsung already give up this kind of advertising. Just put "Mega Dynamic". This best is go shop view by your own eyes to compare. Ignore those xx million DCR. The screen will tell you their difference.

You can save some money to consider purchase Dell ultrasharp U2311H, currently is very worth to purchase with his price.
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post Dec 30 2010, 09:07 PM

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what more important is static ratio smile.gif
dynamic ratio failed when watched movie..sometime too bright sometime too dark doh.gif
i always disable dynamic contrast
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post Dec 30 2010, 10:28 PM

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hey guys just wanna know which is better, the AOC Razor E2243FW or the LG E2250T? biggrin.gif
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post Dec 30 2010, 11:30 PM

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Can U2311H users enlighten me on the warm/cold colours on either side.Does this only happen if you are viewing your monitor from an angle NOT directly in front?
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post Dec 30 2010, 11:35 PM

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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Dec 30 2010, 10:30 PM)
Can U2311H users enlighten me on the warm/cold colours on either side.Does this only happen if you are viewing your monitor from an angle NOT directly in front?
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mine's a REVA00.If within the x and y axis there's no colour shift .Plus my eyes can't detect any warm/cold colour gradient on the left and right side of the display.
If you view it off axis there's the IPS glow,the display becomes yellow/orange-ish if the background's black.
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post Dec 30 2010, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(nanomugen @ Dec 30 2010, 10:28 PM)
hey guys just wanna know which is better, the AOC Razor E2243FW or the LG E2250T?  biggrin.gif
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go for lg e2250t
the touch control for aoc s**k at least on my sis aoc 20 inch (not the same model)

QUOTE(-kytz- @ Dec 30 2010, 11:30 PM)
Can U2311H users enlighten me on the warm/cold colours on either side.Does this only happen if you are viewing your monitor from an angle NOT directly in front?
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not sure..i havent notice any warm/cold colours..i think not all model affected
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post Dec 30 2010, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(Racerx @ Dec 30 2010, 11:35 PM)
mine's a REVA00.If within the x and y axis there's no colour shift .Plus my eyes can't detect any warm/cold colour gradient on the left and right side of the display.
If you view it off axis there's the IPS glow,the display becomes yellow/orange-ish if the background's black.
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Thanks so it means there's no colour shift when you're facing the monitor directly(as in perpendicular to the monitor). How about when you view it from a larger viewing distance?

And also, I only see colour shifts(in reviews) when they're testing the viewing angles.

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post Dec 30 2010, 11:44 PM

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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Dec 30 2010, 10:39 PM)
Thanks so it means there's no colour shift when you're facing the monitor directly(as in perpendicular to the monitor). How about when you view it from a larger viewing distance?

And also, I only see colour shifts(in reviews) when they're testing the viewing angles.
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For your first question,i tried viewing it about 2 meters away [my room's small] and there's no colour shift.

For your 2nd question,colour shift only occurs for me when it's viewed off axis,if within axis there's no colour shift even at extreme angles.However the brightness/contrast is slightly reduced though when viewed from extreme angles.
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post Dec 31 2010, 12:24 AM

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QUOTE(Racerx @ Dec 30 2010, 11:44 PM)
For your first question,i tried viewing it about 2 meters away [my room's small] and there's no colour shift.

For your 2nd question,colour shift only occurs for me when it's viewed off axis,if within axis there's no colour shift even at extreme angles.However the brightness/contrast is slightly reduced though when viewed from extreme angles.
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Thanks!! thumbup.gif

I was pretty worried about the colour shifts because i'm planning to get it partly for photo editing as i'm doing photography biggrin.gif And yes, more workspace for surfing the web/watching movies as such biggrin.gif I won't be viewing it at angles, so it's good news for me smile.gif

Sow, now yea. I've decided already ! Time to start funding for it rclxms.gif

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