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 Inspira vs Forte, which one will you go for

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post Nov 29 2010, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(dstl1128 @ Nov 29 2010, 02:27 PM)
Interesting Campro got a 'boost' in 4.1k rpm, meanwhile Vios got boost in 5.7k rpm.

I'm very interested in power/torque graphs. Probably should pinned a thread for collection of stock cars' power/torque graph.
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Old Campros, the power comes in at 4000rpm mah hence the boost
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post Nov 29 2010, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(dstl1128 @ Nov 29 2010, 02:27 PM)
Interesting Campro got a 'boost' in 4.1k rpm, meanwhile Vios got boost in 5.7k rpm.

I'm very interested in power/torque graphs. Probably should pinned a thread for collection of stock cars' power/torque graph.
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cuz VVT-i just kick in yo...
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i am also quite curious as to why the sudden boost... still trying to understand actually... so once i got an explanation/answer, i will share...

the purpose of this is to show how much actual usable power that a particular vehicle have instead of taking everything from paper... which can be impressive but disappoint when it comes to actual real performance...
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i have plenty more charts to show for quite a wide variety of vehicle
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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Nov 29 2010, 02:28 PM)
The purpose of dyno is to see the engine performance right? That can only be done by choosing 1:1 ratio. Else, we don't know whether its really the engine 'power' since the GB kept changing 'gears' to optimize the performance. Just like dyno a MT car with 1st gear, the torque will be higher than dyno in 3rd gear right hmm.gif
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erm you can try out your theory and see tongue.gif
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i reserved my comments as i have done 1st to 5th gear
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post Nov 29 2010, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(kcng @ Nov 29 2010, 02:47 PM)
erm you can try out your theory and see tongue.gif
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i reserved my comments as i have done 1st to 5th gear
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Maybe the curve will still be the same I wonder. Why not share with us. Interested to know. notworthy.gif

My theory for CVT, let say the engine got torque dip like campro, it can automatically shift down to give a flatter torque curve right?. hmm.gif


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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Nov 29 2010, 02:59 PM)
Maybe the curve will still be the same I wonder. Why not share with us. Interested to know. notworthy.gif

My theory for CVT, let say the engine got torque dip like campro, it can automatically shift down to give a flatter torque curve right?. hmm.gif
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the general curve will still be the same as you cannot alter the engine characteristic....

no.....
CVT can't downshift, instead it "downshift" by adjusting the ratio... and no, it wont flatten the torque curve...

eh wait,
aint this thread is about forte vs inspira ?
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QUOTE(kcng @ Nov 29 2010, 03:03 PM)
the general curve will still be the same as you cannot alter the engine characteristic....

no.....
CVT can't downshift, instead it "downshift" by adjusting the ratio... and no, it wont flatten the torque curve...

eh wait,
aint this thread is about forte vs inspira ?
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Why not, since the difference between the two is the GB, one is AT, and the other is CVT. laugh.gif

About the downshift/lowering the ratio, wouldn't that effect the torque curve, since its not fixed. Like dynoing in 3rd gear then suddenly change to 2nd at 4k rpm and shift back up to 4th at 5k rpm. hmm.gif Confuse already. rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(kcng @ Nov 29 2010, 02:47 PM)
cuz VVT-i just kick in yo...
laugh.gif
jk
i am also quite curious as to why the sudden boost... still trying to understand actually... so once i got an explanation/answer, i will share...

the purpose of this is to show how much actual usable power that a particular vehicle have instead of taking everything from paper... which can be impressive but disappoint when it comes to actual real performance...
wink.gif

i have plenty more charts to show for quite a wide variety of vehicle
smile.gif
erm you can try out your theory and see tongue.gif
wink.gif
i reserved my comments as i have done 1st to 5th gear
wink.gif
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Share la..

Interested to know the dyno results from 1st to 5th gear. Normally during dyno, the tester will only use 3rd gear...

If you unwilling to share in public, can PM me also wink.gif
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just went and test drive Forte 1.6 last weekend. love the spaciousness in the car.

driving wise - ok ok to me only, feels the car abit heavy.

but one thing i really like, the sales lady told me that until now, all forte are still fully import from korea. only when they reach malaysia, they change the front logo to naza only. wow, still imported car...

will test drive inspira soon.
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QUOTE(luckykid5 @ Dec 13 2010, 08:39 PM)
just went and test drive Forte 1.6 last weekend. love the spaciousness in the car.

driving wise - ok ok to me only, feels the car abit heavy.

but one thing i really like, the sales lady told me that until now, all forte are still fully import from korea. only when they reach malaysia, they change the front logo to naza only. wow, still imported car...

will test drive inspira soon.
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Never trust SA people,right ? laugh.gif
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post Dec 13 2010, 09:31 PM

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so meaning what the SA said is false?

she even said that new forte tyre also from Korea...tat's how we can differenciate if it's local assembled or fully imported...
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QUOTE(kidmad @ Dec 13 2010, 10:17 PM)
Hyundai Sonata 2.4 pawns them both! hahaha tongue.gif
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thn try getting 1 for 80k+
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Nov 15 2010, 03:26 PM)
let me answer for u all ..

Proton Fans : "Inspira all the way"
Forte Fans : "Forte ! .. better then sucky proton"
Anti Proton Fans : "Hell to proton .. Forte better"
Lancer Fans : "Buy Forte, dun buy copy cat proton"

..... and the stories goes on ..
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As above.

But I drive a Forte.

Just buy what ever you like and can afford.
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Dec 13 2010, 10:19 PM)
thn try getting 1 for 80k+
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Haha planning to get a 3 year old one at 60k tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Dec 13 2010, 10:19 PM)
thn try getting 1 for 80k+
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Added on December 13, 2010, 11:28 pm
QUOTE(bezet @ Dec 13 2010, 10:21 PM)
As above.

But I drive a Forte.

Just buy what ever you like and can afford.
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forte have all the luxuries gadget in the car...u never known..in taiwan forte was built to race..is just not famous in msia
but hell ya..i just get half cut evo 10 rm 30k throw inside inspira...full convert...wah...delicious

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QUOTE(luckykid5 @ Dec 13 2010, 09:39 PM)
just went and test drive Forte 1.6 last weekend. love the spaciousness in the car.

driving wise - ok ok to me only, feels the car abit heavy.

but one thing i really like, the sales lady told me that until now, all forte are still fully import from korea. only when they reach malaysia, they change the front logo to naza only. wow, still imported car...

will test drive inspira soon.
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yup....still fully imported. Forte still CBU units, for now...
Gurun now is trying to get machines that can fix Forte, making it CKD.
now still best time to grab CBU units Forte. If not mistaken, CKD Forte will commence after Q2 2012.
Juz try to wait for facelift Forte, with 6spd GB and new 1.6 engine(all same as 2011 Avante)..currently still using 4spd GB and Upgraded Spectra5 engine. but delivers good FC than spectra5 itself...


Added on December 14, 2010, 12:43 am
QUOTE(luckykid5 @ Dec 13 2010, 10:31 PM)
so meaning what the SA said is false?

she even said that new forte tyre also from Korea...tat's how we can differenciate if it's local assembled or fully imported...

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yup, forte tyres also from Korea, but is low profile tyres(Kumho Solus KH17 215/45/R17). and also very noisy tyres.....
After u get forte, there are 2 common problems u might face.
1. car tend to go to the left by itself(Alignment and balancing problem). why?? cause in korea is left hand drive, and they made it right hand drive for us.
2. Headlamp foggy issue(some said water vapor).....will disappear after few weeks or few mths....(normal for imported cars including Audi, BMW, and Mercedes) due to temperature here.
Headlamp itself needs to get used to our temperature, for that, u hv 2 b patience for few weeks or months.

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QUOTE(myboo_1988 @ Dec 13 2010, 11:26 PM)

Added on December 13, 2010, 11:28 pm
forte have all the luxuries gadget in the car...u never known..in taiwan forte was built to race..is just not famous in msia
but hell ya..i just get half cut evo 10 rm 30k throw inside inspira...full convert...wah...delicious
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RM30k for evo 10 halfcut?full convert?sure or not? blink.gif
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post Dec 14 2010, 12:46 AM

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QUOTE(myboo_1988 @ Dec 14 2010, 12:26 AM)

Added on December 13, 2010, 11:28 pm
forte have all the luxuries gadget in the car...u never known..in taiwan forte was built to race..is just not famous in msia
but hell ya..i just get half cut evo 10 rm 30k throw inside inspira...full convert...wah...delicious
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if that is true, u might b refering to Forte Koup Type R Concept, featuring 6Spd DSG GB(used in VW), 2.0 ThetaII dual-cvvt twin turbocharged engine(290HP stock), CF Hood and spoiler, Recaro Sport seats, Sport absorber+spring and fully tuned Suspension settings. The whole car already fully tuned by factory default....it is very limited units...
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QUOTE(XionCity @ Dec 14 2010, 12:46 AM)
if that is true, u might b refering to Forte Koup Type R Concept, featuring 6Spd DSG GB(used in VW), 2.0 ThetaII dual-cvvt twin turbocharged engine(290HP stock), CF Hood and spoiler, Recaro Sport seats, Sport absorber+spring and fully tuned Suspension settings. The whole car already fully tuned by factory default....it is very limited units...
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in production already?i thought just concept?
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QUOTE(jaymansion @ Dec 14 2010, 01:51 AM)
in production already?i thought just concept?
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might be in production...but will be very limited numbers(like civic type-R)
coz those came stock 290HP at 2.0L engine twin turbocharge(very rare u can find 4cyl 16v engine with twin turbocharge...even Evos also single turbo only)
290HP meaning stock even faster than Evos....juz only problem is FF.....so only meant for drag, or something that FF can do with racing.
Ald have prototype d.....
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QUOTE(XionCity @ Dec 14 2010, 12:54 AM)
might be in production...but will be very limited numbers(like civic type-R)
coz those came stock 290HP at 2.0L engine twin turbocharge(very rare u can find 4cyl 16v engine with twin turbocharge...even Evos also single turbo only)
290HP meaning stock even faster than Evos....juz only problem is FF.....so only meant for drag, or something that FF can do with racing.
Ald have prototype d.....
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and with the bbs rims....nice....haha....
yalo...FF...=='......

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