+1 even i know he is forte fanboy

lol. i also speechless to read any fanboy comment.

btw the only good about inspira is about the outlook & engine only.

and just now read at inspira thread.. its confirm no tweeter inside for 1.8 or 2.0 inspira. speechles!

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=37799119

This post has been edited by Taipan052: Nov 16 2010, 08:30 AM

hmnn....the voting results shows inspira has significantly higher votes...

Kia History:

South Korea's oldest car company, Kia was founded on June 9, 1944 as a manufacturer of steel tubing and bicycle parts by hand — and has operated as one of the country's Chaebols since. In 1952, Kia changed its name from Kyungsung Precision Industry,[9] and later built motorcycles (starting in 1957), trucks (1962) and cars (1974). The company opened its first integrated automotive assembly plant in 1973, the Sohari Plant. Starting in 1986, in partnership with Ford, Kia produced several Mazda derived vehicles for both domestic sales in South Korea into other countries. These models include the Pride (based on the Mazda 121) and Avella, which were sold in North America and Australasia as the Ford Festiva and Ford Aspire.

Hyundai History:

Chung Ju-Yung founded the Hyundai Engineering and Construction Company in 1947. Hyundai Motor Company was later established in 1967. The company’s first model, the Cortina, was released in cooperation with Ford Motor Company in 1968. In 1975, the Pony, the first Korean car, was released, with styling by Giorgio Giugiaro of ItalDesign and powertrain technology provided by Japan’s Mitsubishi Motors. Exports began in the following year to Ecuador and soon thereafter to the Benelux countries. In 1991, the company succeeded in developing its first proprietary gasoline engine, the four-cylinder Alpha, and transmission, thus paving the way for technological independence.

Exactly. That shows i am not bias. I bash based on real life driving.Yes my Nhc has flaws but not as bad forte. So you can imagine where forte is. Wayyyyyyyyy back!

And yes forte leaves you speechless all the time ? Why cuz of its horrible drivetrain and driving experience. Ohyea was i speechless man!

Just admit it lah guys, i been driving jap cars for so long, up until now no single korean brand has been able to give the same jap driving experience.

If the car is good , i will praise just like i praised 308 turbo. But as i said , korean cars still hv a long way to go.

Hw they can survive in msia? Here you go, a minority of ppl that support them and most come frm this forum.

This post has been edited by kevin23: Nov 16 2010, 09:34 AM

im still waiting for TS to reply something in here... Open a thread and then lesap.. Post something please TS...did u make up ur mind of which car to choose already...

The poll have spoken itself (Inspira-140 vs Forte-75).

Those car owner already gave their opinion/spoken themselves.

how bout u?

This post has been edited by [kuaLe]_AGX: Nov 16 2010, 09:39 AM

Facts? sos please or gtfo. Cmon, even your favourite Toyota claims Hyundai as a tight competitor. You are just one of the fanboy who can't accept the fact here.

I wonder how crappy can they be. They made a car that is able to compete with the Buggati Veyron. Do your homework please.

Bashing so much about korean cars in a forum is useless dude. Until one day you got your ass beaten by a korean car on the road, you wouldn't stop bashing them huh? I would be glad to do so.

i dunno what to say.. really fanboy attitude.. kakakaka

same to T & H, blindly supported by fanboy that makes them survive even con their own hard earned money.

btw, i nearly bought dugong J manual or city lower spec before.. but im not a fanboy. rather give a chance to forte even i knew kia past history.. even BLM and myvi under my consideration also.. hahaha



This post has been edited by Taipan052: Nov 16 2010, 09:52 AM

now, THAT has yet to happen.........

it had happened..

not when I'm behind the wheel.........

This clearly shows u r NHC fanboy...i dun think VIOS suitable 4 u, so i called u NHC fanboy or Forte basher...

but clearly i have to say something, although I am Forte fanboy
TS, PLZ TEST DRIVE BOTH MODELS, 1.8 INSPIRA, 1.6 FORTE, AND 2.0 FORTE/INSPIRA....THE CONCLUSION IS URS, THE CHOICE IS URS, I'VE MADE MINE

as for NHCguy a.k.a. kevin23, horrible drivetrain??? can u plz explain more abt it?? coz my car dun seems hv the problem...
yes, i agree 2 u, Korean cars still hv long way 2 go, y??? T&H established in Malaysia since 198x...but korean established since 1996 in Malaysia....
so, definitely :
1. T&H more buyers choice
2. they are used to T&H quality at that time(now ald sucks)
3. the reliability and service/aftersales services on T&H
4. Spare parts availability due to CKD units in Malaysia(for new cars), where else Korean still CBU units(for new cars)
5. bcoz of the high amount of buyers, the price increased(overpriced)

yet for Korean :
1. Established in late 1990s
2. new brand for users
3. bad experienced on spectra/sephia/rio/ria
4. quality issues on spectra is a turn down
5. mostly bcoz of the spectra models, that buyers hate KIA/Hyundai
6. bcoz of CBU units at that time, aftersales services is not good
7. Forte is new generation vehicle for KIA, thus buyers have hard time 2 decided 2 go for it(but is a 100% total change for KIA)
8. bought by NAZA(that's wat i hate either) NAZA aftersales service from wat i heard, is worse than Hyundai and KIA(I believe now)

and u said PUG308T....admit is a very good car, but the price wise...haha
for me if i hav money, yup, i will go 4 that car...problem is, my budget is out if that car cost RM84k++

dont ever buy car from kia...suck than proton cars...telan minyak bagai nak mampos...

yup....b4 i book my Forte, i was booking Saga BLM SE version auto as well, coz of salesman lied 2 me, i go for Forte..(4 mths vs. 2 weeks)

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Added on November 16, 2010, 10:00 amProve it for Forte....
i admit, KIA Spectra, sephia, and maybe Rio is telan minyak
for u all said RIA is telan minyak also rite?? is MPV, different segment car, muz compare NAZA RIA/KIA Carnival with Toyota Estima/Alphard series...
then i wanna c u all said....telan minyak or not...

This post has been edited by XionCity: Nov 16 2010, 10:00 AM

too many times

true for older generation. starting from spectra5 and rondo, its no more fuel guzzler.
people tend to compare car's FC based on price.. example naza ria and wira.. because the price value.. not a fair comparison at all..

Another "VS" thread? lol

Fight harder guys......

+1

Btw. do you want some popcorn?

citra wun makan oso ler......
yes, coz RIA is a different segment car and also different class, 2.0V6 MPV. must compare with Toyota Estima/Alphard/Honda Odysee/Stream
Wira is a B-segment Sedan/HB car. the best competitor is T.Vios/H.City/Fiesta...
Forte is a C-segment sedan car. the best competitor is Civic/Altis/Focus
if wanna compare FC...plz compare accordingly, not according to price(which is for msia mindset buyer's choice only)

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Added on November 16, 2010, 10:31 am1.6cc above, C-segment cars are mostly optimized for HW Cruise, not for City drive pleasure....so, if using it drive in city, sure feel telan minyak 1..KL exceptional coz HW everywhere...

where else from kancil 660 start till 1.5 are more optimized for City drive(that's y called Honda CITY)....thus u wun feel telan minyak during city drive, but FC is quite high on HW(same 2 my dad's old Toyota Avanza-traded in for N.Grand Livina 1.8)....

plz understand wat type of cars, design for wat type of roads/cruise....

not belif, try use BMW/Merc/Audi....pump RM50 petrol vs. Viva/Myvi RM50 petrol consumption....then u knw wat i mean..

This post has been edited by XionCity: Nov 16 2010, 10:32 AM

seems like spehia/spectra era really spoiled the reputation of korean automobile industry.
Forte is still the best korean model for now, of coz it still behind some japanese models but it not the worst.
keep it up korean, and also proton... i would to see a more healthy automobile industry but not dominate by certain brand (P,T&H).