some 4Mbps users got throttle from p2p while some didn't, is there a standard in the throttle process, can tm release official notice?
Dinner with TM CEO, ZAMZAMZAIRANI MOHD ISA, Time for some Q&A
Dinner with TM CEO, ZAMZAMZAIRANI MOHD ISA, Time for some Q&A
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Nov 9 2010, 11:24 PM
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some 4Mbps users got throttle from p2p while some didn't, is there a standard in the throttle process, can tm release official notice?
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Nov 10 2010, 12:32 AM
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im not sure if its being asked b4
goin thru 6 pages is kinda hard for me so my question is why is sometimes the line ok sometimes lag when we call 100 n asked to key in the area code n phone number why r we asked again for verification we cant do anythin else by callin in 100 so why all the verifications its wastin time n quite a lot of time the customer service doest know anythin bout the current situation n ask them to listen carefully there r times i asked for somethin n get a diff reply we wanna get faster speed like 4mbs n unifi bt cannot cuz either port full or unifi not available in ur area do somethin bout the speed n why do we hav so much problems wit the underwater cable anyway |
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Nov 10 2010, 01:02 AM
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QUOTE(FallenOut @ Nov 10 2010, 12:32 AM) im not sure if its being asked b4 if call using handphone and housephone, you will be divert to the same line even though you dial different number, 100 and 1300-88-9515 is the samegoin thru 6 pages is kinda hard for me so my question is why is sometimes the line ok sometimes lag when we call 100 n asked to key in the area code n phone number why r we asked again for verification we cant do anythin else by callin in 100 so why all the verifications its wastin time n quite a lot of time the customer service doest know anythin bout the current situation n ask them to listen carefully there r times i asked for somethin n get a diff reply we wanna get faster speed like 4mbs n unifi bt cannot cuz either port full or unifi not available in ur area do somethin bout the speed n why do we hav so much problems wit the underwater cable anyway if you use housephone they dont track your number and skip the verification, first is verification with the machine, after someone pick up the line then need to verify again, if i need to verify again after they pick up my call, i dont see a point in verify my number with a machine in the first place, and yes, waste of time, imagine you call using handphone where you cant dial 100, the cost is like RM1 per mins there was once where i entered the correct area code and phone number, but the machine just keep say i enter the wrong number, you know how annoying it is and the credit is running since i dial using handphone. |
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Nov 10 2010, 02:19 AM
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actually tmnut has mentioned about p2p "control" on their website
http://www.streamyx.com.my/customer_care/c...ir_usage_policy |
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Nov 10 2010, 05:59 AM
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QUOTE(Meis @ Nov 10 2010, 02:19 AM) actually tmnut has mentioned about p2p "control" on their website But they didn't say what is the limit, how they implement it... i actually running 2 streamyx at same place... Where 1 got block the other 1 i test it by downloading crazy but still work what kind me fair use policy is this? so can i just pay for only 1 line?http://www.streamyx.com.my/customer_care/c...ir_usage_policy |
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Nov 10 2010, 07:07 AM
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Nov 10 2010, 08:09 AM
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I hope TM can be more transparent. For a start, as they "will be conducting UniFi Customer Premise Equipment (CPE) configuration update on an ongoing basis" I would like to know:
1. How is this going to be done? Will it require their technician to come into premises? 2. What securities flaws will it fix? 3. Will it fixed the D-link router wireless drop out issue? 4. What are the timeframe of the maintanance? As some of us may be planning to buy hardware due to the router issue, knowing what will be fixed soon, may help. Also are they any play to allows customer to chose their own hardware? Thanks. |
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Nov 10 2010, 09:00 AM
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QUOTE(Meis @ Nov 10 2010, 02:19 AM) actually tmnut has mentioned about p2p "control" on their website P2p throttle is one thing but this one throttle youtube, throttle downloads. WTF?!!!http://www.streamyx.com.my/customer_care/c...ir_usage_policy |
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Nov 10 2010, 12:24 PM
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Alright, looks like everyone has asked all the questions they wanted to ask.
Any more? Dinner is tomorrow night. |
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Nov 10 2010, 01:18 PM
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Level 48 menara TM ?
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Nov 10 2010, 02:27 PM
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I'm frustrated with the low upload speed of Streamyx. Please ask him what will TM do to upgrade the upload speed of Streamyx users if Unifi is not in the pipeline in my area: Paya Terubong, Penang.
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Nov 10 2010, 03:07 PM
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QUOTE(Tentris @ Nov 9 2010, 05:41 PM) You never know unless you try. Well, hope the meeting goes well and brings some benefit to the users. I guess a lot of users are sceptical about this as this has already happened a few times in the past years. I've never met Dato Zam before face to face, but i can tell you that his senior team has been engaged with me on several issues, including the security problem Rizvanrp found. The fact that they are doing something about that means that they do have some intention to listen to our feedback. Of course, we can't expect to get our complete wish list. But the fact that the CEO wants to meet us (or at least me and Riz) is positive news. Its a multi-billion ringgit company. Why would he even bother if he wasn't really curious about what we had to say? I can't recall all details. I think the previous event was with MX510? Then there was an event with a user in PJ office who uploaded part of the meeting audio or video somewhere? There was some event in Bangsar South? There was something to do with MCMC? And probably a few others before that too. Even back in dialup days in 1996 there was a meeting with TM and users. Yet nothing solid has come out of all these and the complaints from users keep pouring in. Can you blame anyone for thinking this is all a PR event? Each time when it is with a new user or group of users, they get excited thinking that there is going to be a breakthrough. Lets see if your case will be the one. Its seems to be when TM problems ar aired in public in the media or blogs etc, they are quick to take action to do damage control. Why a meeting just because you highlighted issues on your blog? What about all the thousands of complaints users make to the Helpline each month? This is a known tactic. Its something like befriending your enemy so that it makes it difficult for the enemy to go against you because you are now friendly with the enemy. It something like sorting out the complaints from a vocal user to keep him quiet after that. After all, if that user's complaint is resolved, then why does the user need to go on making noise on behalf of others? TM only has to ask the user, do you still have a problem, if no, then don't worry about others, that is for us to handle. Something like that. TM has these meetings when absolutely necessary to do damage control and to get the group to do their PR for them. Most of the time, after the meeting, the group will come back and say to other user something like TM is serious about this and that, they are listening to us, give them a chance to improve etc etc. Until some time passes and the group becomes disillusioned again and wakes up to the reality of things once more. This has been going on for years now. BTW, who knows, the CEO may not turn up at the last minute due to an unexpected reason? But anyway, hope it does turn out to be a benefit. And thank you for taking the time to hellp other users. Let us know how it goes. |
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Nov 10 2010, 04:27 PM
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Nov 10 2010, 05:05 PM
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QUOTE(mckinsey @ Nov 10 2010, 04:27 PM) TM should take note: Because it screams bandwidth hogger to ISPs. TM however has gone above and beyond just P2P throttling to throttling direct downloads and streaming too. TM really Boleh. Fracking company.Discover Live P2P video streaming with Adobe Flash Adobe Flash 10.1 Adds P2P VoIP, Social Networking, IM Although any mention of P2P invokes negative thoughts currently, it is here to stay and will be for a long time. |
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Nov 10 2010, 05:09 PM
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Nov 10 2010, 05:48 PM
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QUOTE(mckinsey @ Nov 10 2010, 05:09 PM) By the way, I would like to ask Dato: In his opinion - What benefits would businesses, citizens and Malaysia as a whole derive if TM offered affordable internet access packages that are faster than 20 Megabits/s (let's say 50 Megabits/s) such that 50% of their current Streamyx customers upgraded? - Do Malaysians even need internet access speeds in excess of 5 Megabits/s? - What does he think the average access speeds to US/Europe servers will be for Malaysians in 2015? - Does he think Malaysians will be able to watch World Cup 2014 in HD and 3D via their IPTV service, Hypp TV? QUOTE TMnet Blame Streamyx Broadband Users on P2P Usage Filed in: Malaysia, Technology, Tmnet, Web — March 3rd, 2006 TM Net is unhappy with P2P users who utilize most of their bandwidth. CYBERJAYA: Peer-to-peer (P2P) traffic is choking up local broadband lines with 20% of users utilising 80% of the total bandwidth, according to Internet service provider (ISP) TM Net Sdn Bhd. Dr Fadhullah Suhaimi Abdul Malek, general manager of TM Net’s corporate and strategy services, said that as the number of local broadband subscribers increases, more users are expected to use P2P applications such as Kazaa and BitTorrent to transfer files online. “We are not against our customers using P2P. However, it is an unfair situation which needs to be addressed, as we cannot upgrade our infrastructure (merely) for the benefit of the minority,” he said. To counter this problem, TM Net will introduce a number of time-based packages to cater for low-bandwidth users by the third quarter, said Mohd Nazeem Mohd Nasir, assistant manager of TM Net’s technology planning and development department. Now they blame streaming and downloads so they throttle it. What a bunch of fags. |
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Nov 10 2010, 08:37 PM
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QUOTE(Tentris @ Nov 10 2010, 12:24 PM) Alright, looks like everyone has asked all the questions they wanted to ask. I hope you summarize the points and mainly put the important ones infront of the list.(I dont think they got time to read long list, they probably screen very quickly) Especially the mainly cap issue is bothering everyone.Any more? Dinner is tomorrow night. I just quote back mine..... fyi. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « This post has been edited by Boldnut: Nov 10 2010, 08:38 PM |
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Nov 10 2010, 09:15 PM
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With other competitors like Yes bringing up to ~11 mbps and after unifi, increasing no of 4mb users shouldn't there be a price revise for all the plans?
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Nov 10 2010, 10:04 PM
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QUOTE(biatche @ Nov 9 2010, 08:28 PM) earnning is one thing.. slaughtering ppl who have no choice but to subscribe to them is another matter...business without conciseness QUOTE(automan5891 @ Nov 10 2010, 09:00 AM) yeah man... if they wanna put "fair-usage-policy".. please put the details and let US PAYING CUSTOMER JUDGE if its FAIR OR NOT..then ppl can choose.. fair they subscribe not fair.. bising to open the market to other competitor that can give a decent service.. Added on November 10, 2010, 10:05 pm QUOTE(Flicx @ Nov 10 2010, 09:15 PM) With other competitors like Yes bringing up to ~11 mbps and after unifi, increasing no of 4mb users shouldn't there be a price revise for all the plans? yeah like i said early.. in 2004 i pay MYR88 for 1mbps.. which is not throttled to hell.. in 2010.. im still paying MYR88 for 1mbps which seems like everything is throttled... service improve ? more value for money ? i dont think so.. This post has been edited by JinXXX: Nov 10 2010, 10:05 PM |
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Nov 10 2010, 10:11 PM
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(1) FTTH was chosen as the delivery method for Unifi. Why? Copper is able to carry up to 24Mbps/8Mbps. Logic suggests that a change in delivery method should only occur when the majority of users are using close to 50% of the bandwidth that an existing infrastructure is able to support. Spending millions on fibre only to offer Unifi packages of 5, 10 and 20Mbps (most likely with a cap in future no less) is questionable to say the least.
If the logic is that fibre is future proof, I'd accept that... My issue with this is, how likely is it that TM upgraded because it's future proof... or because a small group of people will get keys to new Mercedes S500's in the mail... and to get to brag that we have (severely underutilized fibre) in Malaysia? What are the odds that TM will be offering connections even close to 10% of fibre capacity within the next 5 years? (2) Malaysia started investing in the Internet before South Korea (approximately 2 year head start if I remember correctly)... and yet South Korea is in the news for stuff like this. They have "devised a national plan for 1,000Mbps connections to be commonplace by 2012". Over here in our beloved Malaysia, TM is struggling to roll out our "HSBB" of 5, 10, and 20Mbps. Our "HSBB" which isn't even considered HSBB in any country that isn't wartorn or has bigger problems like starving children. Has our governments decision to let TM have the monopoly on Malaysian Internet come around and bit us in the ass? Does TM believe that we can emulate the South Koreans in any way while we continue down this "TM owns the last-mile" road? (Both were rhetorical questions, don't answer them) What is TM's standpoint and/or opinion on the current state of our local loop? It is obvious that competition can only improve the quality of our Internet (and hurt the TM bottomline at the same time - which is surprisingly low considering they are the ONLY choice in a vast majority of areas). This post has been edited by biatch0: Nov 10 2010, 10:13 PM |
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