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post Nov 9 2010, 08:25 PM

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QUOTE(poi2005 @ Nov 9 2010, 08:11 PM)
Ohh...OK. That's fine then. How about other brand or type?
True, the main reason of the purpose of me wanted to buy all rounded lens is for easy travel, enjoy and capture memories into images smile.gif, not for competition. I understand that there are advantages and disadvantages of all round lenses, I am not fuss about the image quality like need not to be 100% perfect and also I saw a lot of images taken by all rounded lenese, the quality is there.

I am looking for advise of which all rounded lens is more suitable for my purpose (50% scenery, 35% buildings, 10% people, 5% night shot) and suite my 550D as well.

Maybe some pro here can give their experience on all rounded lenses  smile.gif
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I tried 18-270 and it's actually quite nice to use it. The only thing is soft when it reaches like 230 and above. But I don't really care though. So if i were you, i will get it for my travel lense, at the same time will carry external flash.
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post Nov 9 2010, 08:36 PM

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hi guys, still remember me? LOL

long time didn't come in here. wanna ask u guys personal experience

normally in dinner(like wedding dinner) is the light strong enough? i don't have a external flash and is assign to be a photog there.

afraid the light is not enough sweat.gif

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QUOTE(Grajindo @ Nov 9 2010, 08:25 PM)
I tried 18-270 and it's actually quite nice to use it. The only thing is soft when it reaches like 230 and above. But I don't really care though. So if i were you, i will get it for my travel lense, at the same time will carry external flash.
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Thanks for the info.
Btw, I saw from other forum mentioned that when zooming the lens (in certain range) it feels a bit hard/stuck, is this true?

Cool, might consider a external flash if budget still allow.
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QUOTE(poi2005 @ Nov 9 2010, 08:36 PM)
Thanks for the info.
Btw, I saw from other forum mentioned that when zooming the lens (in certain range) it feels a bit hard/stuck, is this true?

Cool, might consider a external flash if budget still allow.
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You mentioned 50% scenery, 35% buildings, 10% people, 5% night shot and personally, hardly find the need to go all the way to 270mm for these situation.

Also, lenses like the 18-270 and the 18-200 weights 3x your current 18-55 IS kitlens.

It's worth looking at a canon 18-135mm/ sigma 18-125mm and use the weight/budget balance to get a 50mm f1.8 for low light situation (add together still cheaper and lighter) especially in places whereby a flash is not ideal.. like in museums, places of worship etc... and a big camera+big flash attached could create too much unwanted attention some less safe place.

My 2 cents.
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Nov 9 2010, 08:50 PM)
Also, lenses like the 18-270 and the 18-200 weights 3x your current 18-55 IS kitlens.

It's worth looking at a canon 18-135mm/ sigma 18-125mm and use the weight/budget balance to get a 50mm f1.8 for low light situation (add together still cheaper and lighter) especially in places whereby a flash is not ideal.. like in museums, places of worship etc... and a big camera+big flash attached could create too much unwanted attention some less safe place.
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Hmm, I might need to go down to a shop and try out those lenses before making a final purchase decision.
I am thinking to avoid lens changing during my trip, therefore I am looking at all rounded lens.
But anyway, I'll take a look at 18-135mm and compare it to 18-270 before purchasing anything.

thanks for the info.
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post Nov 9 2010, 09:09 PM

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QUOTE(AlexLee277 @ Nov 9 2010, 08:36 PM)
hi guys, still remember me? LOL

long time didn't come in here. wanna ask u guys personal experience

normally in dinner(like wedding dinner) is the light strong enough? i don't have a external flash and is assign to be a photog there.

afraid the light is not enough sweat.gif
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Just use pop up flash... theres always not enough light when indoor... never will..
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QUOTE(AlexLee277 @ Nov 9 2010, 08:36 PM)
hi guys, still remember me? LOL

long time didn't come in here. wanna ask u guys personal experience

normally in dinner(like wedding dinner) is the light strong enough? i don't have a external flash and is assign to be a photog there.

afraid the light is not enough sweat.gif
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err sorry to be blunt ... i guess it's better to advise your friend/relative to get a pro .. please don't screw up other ppl's once in a life time mia wedding smile.gif

I did some shots before on my friends and cousins wedding dinner, although i'm not the official photog. To be frank with you, I had a hard time getting fast enough shutter speed to freeze movement while trying to preserve as much ambient light as possible on my 5DmarkII+430EXII. I also found that I am using ISO 1000 and above throughout the function. smile.gif

just my noob 2 junk cent. Perhaps other sifu may give you more pointer.


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QUOTE(AlexLee277 @ Nov 9 2010, 08:36 PM)
hi guys, still remember me? LOL

long time didn't come in here. wanna ask u guys personal experience

normally in dinner(like wedding dinner) is the light strong enough? i don't have a external flash and is assign to be a photog there.

afraid the light is not enough sweat.gif
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Remember that, even though your equipment are poor... try to see the schedule and maybe have a visit a day before the wedding begins and sync it with the timing on the schedule. Visualize the wedding of how it is going to be....

Like my fav photographer always say "Expression beats perfection any day" so yeah... try to visualize the shot you wanted and try to compose in your mind. It is all about doing your homework ... while all this will sounds like a troublesome... just do it. It will benefit you.

My sifu also said this... "You all take pictures like a fool. Try to pre-visualize the shot you wanted and list down the style shots you wanted then you can execute it nicely." Practically speaking that, you don't go war in blind, you must be prepared for all the consequences that may or may not happen.


My own motto is that "Why everyone can do that and I can't? We are all human"

My own picture and no... this is not a strobist shot or whatever you called it... I pre-visualize it and he happens to be right spot at the right amount of light and walla~ snapped it
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QUOTE(poi2005 @ Nov 9 2010, 08:36 PM)
Thanks for the info.
Btw, I saw from other forum mentioned that when zooming the lens (in certain range) it feels a bit hard/stuck, is this true?

Cool, might consider a external flash if budget still allow.
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Ya, the zooming is not that smooth compare to Canon zoom ring. But I guess you will get use to it since it's not a big problem. At least to me.
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QUOTE(ComradeZ @ Nov 9 2010, 09:23 PM)

My own motto is that "Why everyone can do that and I can't? We are all human"

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why everyone can do that and i can't? . I love that motivating motto of yours, but your motto does not really fit for his situation.. I assume that he had no prior experience in shooting a banquet before. A Chinese banquet with over thousands of people is way to dynamic for our dual core brain to comprehend. Yet alone for a none experienced trying to take up the main photog role without any proper gears. OK i'm not trying to emphasize on gears here as I know there's ppl who use powershot could beat the hell out of us with dslr. To me it's all about experience honed and it's not as simple as "you can then i can", if the world is that simple then everyone's a billionaire smile.gif

Just as what i posted earlier, do not screw up one's wedding. It's not a job for the non experienced unless he's the backup photog.
Why bother getting all teh brain fug for nothing in case screwed up ? especially when the "client" is your friend or family members. smile.gif

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I believe it is one of the major rules in wedding photography if I may speak smile.gif
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Nov 9 2010, 07:03 PM)

why cannot? whether actual day or pre-wed, you'!l be surprised it can be done beautifully with just 1 lens.

i shot a friend's wedding recently with 18-135 IS. shoot one day. image handed the next day. 2 days later the mother come thank me for the photos. smile.gif

that's not to say you should rely on only one but it's just to show your mind (thinking need more than 1 lensis a greater limitation than your gear.
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LoL..i suggest u go and read again what I post =.="
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wedding photography is a lucrative business.
and there are some dark secret that are......secrets.
only if u observe carefully how the pro set their schedule, how do the backup assistant is placed, and how do they pre-visualise the flow or story of the wedding, and how they use their social skill to interact with client etc, then welcome to the business.
and p/s: they hate new competitors.
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QUOTE(FirstOne @ Nov 9 2010, 11:44 PM)
LoL..i suggest u go and read again what I post =.="
i saw only 4 posts in this thread. 1 is 24-70. 1 is ipad. 1 is the one i quoted. 1 is this one asking me to go read. not that it matters. smile.gif


Added on November 9, 2010, 11:57 pm
QUOTE(ComradeZ @ Nov 9 2010, 09:23 PM)
My own motto is that "Why everyone can do that and I can't? We are all human"
because we're all different.

a car is still a car. why what one car do doesn't mean the other car can do? *of if you prefer, can also replace it with camera*


Added on November 10, 2010, 12:00 am
QUOTE(ckdenion @ Nov 9 2010, 07:52 PM)
welcome to canon EOS!
mayb u can visit food photography blog to learn more on d composition...=)
anyway...nice try u got there!improve by practicing more!
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1. you referring to food blog or food photography blog?

2. best reference - cook books! tongue.gif or watch AFC

3. food blog photos generally not nice. there are those nice ones but they are still limited in many ways. taking nice photos for food blog doesn't mean one can actually do nice food shoot.


Added on November 10, 2010, 12:03 am
QUOTE(KIntos @ Nov 9 2010, 07:47 PM)
Hello Sifu,

Im a newbie on this photography. Just bought canon 550D recently. pls feel free comment on my below picture on where i should improve. using 50mm 1.8
next time just put the IMG here rather than link.

for better feedback, best you put in gallery rather than asking here. the spam level is insane and you are not likely to get any feedback when that happens.

good attempt but try having a wider depth of field, if you're shooting food at f1.8 or whatever widest aperture with your prime lens - you're not heading the right direction.

might need some work on the exposure too.
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Nov 9 2010, 11:56 PM)
1. you referring to food blog or food photography blog?

2. best reference - cook books! tongue.gif or watch AFC

3. food blog photos generally not nice. there are those nice ones but they are still limited in many ways. taking nice photos for food blog doesn't mean one can actually do nice food shoot.
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argh...goldfries...
actually wanted to ask him to visit ur food blog
lazy to copy ur link here so i jz ask him to visit food photography blog...err...supposed to be your food blog...since he is new here so i nvr mention ur name...later d following ques comes asking "who is goldfries?"
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i tink i learn mine from ur food blog too...n sometimes those newspaper got those food recipe...i look at those pictures instead of d recipe rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(AlexLee277 @ Nov 9 2010, 08:36 PM)
hi guys, still remember me? LOL

long time didn't come in here. wanna ask u guys personal experience

normally in dinner(like wedding dinner) is the light strong enough? i don't have a external flash and is assign to be a photog there.

afraid the light is not enough sweat.gif
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I'm still a newb in photography and I tested wedding photography last week at my cousin wedding...my exp is that the light won't b enough due to the ceiling is very high and I guess all wedding dinner hv diff kinda light that will affect ur shot..so it's very hard to get the right setting at tht time on the spot...plus u nd to follow both the bride n groom everywhere to shoot which is another hard task...
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QUOTE(chinti @ Nov 10 2010, 12:20 AM)
I'm still a newb in photography and I tested wedding photography last week at my cousin wedding...my exp is that the light won't b enough due to the ceiling is very high and I guess all wedding dinner hv diff kinda light that will affect ur shot..so it's very hard to get the right setting at tht time on the spot...plus u nd to follow both the bride n groom everywhere to shoot which is another hard task...
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sacrifice food if u need to take photos...if take most time to eat eat eat...then miss many shots
unless work for official photographer for wedding then tats a different story
hmm...but im looking forward to shoot wedding jz for own photo keeping...any of u do so?
not official photog but still will take pictures (of cz not as frequent as official photog during tat event)
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QUOTE(ckdenion @ Nov 10 2010, 12:25 AM)
sacrifice food if u need to take photos...if take most time to eat eat eat...then miss many shots
unless work for official photographer for wedding then tats a different story
hmm...but im looking forward to shoot wedding jz for own photo keeping...any of u do so?
not official photog but still will take pictures (of cz not as frequent as official photog during tat event)
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Interested o~ still learning how to use my demb diffuser on portrait...very hard...anyone use demb diffuser kindly giv some tips~?
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QUOTE(chinti @ Nov 10 2010, 12:35 AM)
Interested o~ still learning how to use my demb diffuser on portrait...very hard...anyone use demb diffuser kindly giv some tips~?
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at least u r better than me...i dun even hv a ext flash yet...
build in flash seldom use...if got use also picture not nice...
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QUOTE(ComradeZ @ Nov 9 2010, 05:35 PM)
most professional photographer like to use it like 24-70L / 70-200L IS II USM / 85mm 1.2L II USM if get this 3 lenses... can do wedding photography with ease edi  rclxms.gif
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He is saying about owning that 3 lenses making the wedding photography easy, well, what i means was skill are more important. and i dono why u go reply with 1 lens bla bla rclxub.gif
Nvm forget it ba. smile.gif

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