Hmm yeah what you said is true. The 16-35 is more practical. But it's about RM2.5k more then the fisheye. 

By the way, I noticed that you're selling your 1D. Upgrading? 

can any 1 teach me how to use reverse ring on canon 18-55 ?

any technique?

i cant do it right~
d image from d viewfinder is blur~

guys im no pro in taking pics, still learning slowly..

but i wanted to ask something..

taking pics in lowlight handheld..

i mean when i walk to some night events, and most of the time,i dont want to use the flash..kills the mood in a way..

so, i mostly use high ISO but my current gear only can boost up to 1600 iso speed..and i mostly use high shutter speed around 1/100 to reduce the blurry pics..

so i just wanted to ask some sifus here,is there any other way?

btw, im using canon 1000D..

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Added on November 18, 2010, 7:37 amowh ya i forgot to add, usually during night moments, i use the 50mm 1.8 so that i could gather more light and possibly faster focusing

is there any comments or any suggestions of what lens i should use during dim low light conditions?

thanks guys

you could always opt for the mark 1, which is only 3k?

selling it because I've been keeping it in the dry cabinet, might as well let someone else utilize it 

I see, a good investment for practice equipment.
Actually, I am more curious to see the difference in zoom and prime.
I think that larger aperture should give more bokeh than my 18-55mm.
I have the 18-55 and have no intention of upgrading.
I am only using 550D. No need to spend so much on lens.
I am not a photographer.
I think the shop will not entertain me if I go try these lenses, not that I dare too!
Plus, I really dont intend to spend much. The 35mm F/1.4L is 5K+++++!!
Yes, I am sticking with the 18-55. The 50mm may not be versatile but it is the cheapest prime out there.
Thank you for the feedback.

that's why i recommend the 35mm F2 for you needs vs 35mm F.14L. 50mm 1.8 is really cheap but the range is too long. If you want to shoot pictures based on your needs, then 35mm lens should be suitable. But I see that you have kitlens. What range you normally shoot? Is 50mm always your liking? If so, then 50mm 1.8 prime should be no problem then.
well if you own and use a camera, too me, are you are photographer already and I'm using 550D

I am not a photographer. I dont shoot anything besides my family and some friend's wedding events for fun. In fact, I'm no where close to being a photographer.

The only reason I bought DSLR is that I noticed the lag-time between you pressing the shutter button and the camera snap the photo is much faster that point 'n' shoot camera.

How much is the 35mm f2? I dont know which focal length I use more now since someone told me that Lightroom able to tell me that but I cannot find the function in Lightroom. 50mm f1.8 is something I am willing to spend on. Rule of thumb: trying not to go into the thousands.

me also using 1000d,but with kitlens only,want to know also because been try taking pic of my daughter playing indooor,kind of hard without high shutter speed,posssible with pop up flash,but like u said,kill the mood,i think good source of light is very important if indooor or use a speedlite.

I'm not really a fan of fisheye, so 16-35mm is my vote.

By the way, about the recovery freeware I used, it is called Recuva.
http://www.piriform.com/recuva
I suggest each of you install a copy in your PC, you wouldn't know when this kind of things will hit on you. It's free and I can say 90% of your files will be recovered.

yeah thanks man for replying. btw, having to shoot indoor with a speedlight is nice. i mean to bounce it on the ceiling or wutever may giv me the results i need. but im just curious if its outdoors. and that's wut i've been doing lately. some bbq nights. reunion parties. well, if anyone have a better solution,do tell me ya

now... since you have flashgun maybe invest in some for wireless trigger flash? it is a cool thing to have a family portrait with it.

investments have return. Toys are just toys

I mean this wan 18-24-35-55. Normally you shoot using which one? 18,24, 35? or 55? If you always use all of the ranges, then don't think about prime lens. Use your kitlens first. Then later upgrade to Tammy 17-50mm Non VC because it the most reasonably price, has good optical performance among it's range and lighter compared to VC.

35mm F2 is about RM1105
http://yamiya.com.my/store/product.php?pro...&cat=251&page=2

investments have return. Toys are just toys

For the money, its better off getting the Sigma 30mm f1.4 compared to the Canon.

The canon is an age old lens and doesn't come with USM compared to the sigma. And the sigma is a full stop faster than the canon.
Doesn't really matter if the Sigma is a APS-C lens.. if you are going full frame, you would probably pick the canon 35 f1.4 over the f2 anyway.

Plus, the bokeh of the 35 f2 isn't that pleasant too according to reviews from certain sites.