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 LYN Breastfeeding Support Group, may u b bless wif abundance of supply~!!

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Tess_87
post Sep 5 2011, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(phythia79 @ Sep 5 2011, 02:10 PM)
I just kept on giving baby my breast...even my milk is not much..but it's enough to feed a NB as i said earlier, their stomach is a size of a pea...try putting 2 or 3 oz of milk into that small space. 

Always think positive that you have milk..it does help. 

yes..some babies are smart that they may refuse your breast as you have given him bottle ..which is called nipple confusion as bottle..they don't need to work hard to get the milk compared to breast. 

As for latching on, both baby and mommy have to learn as this particular process is new to both.  Some babies know how to latch on..some don't..which then, you need patience to teach them...and at the same time..calm your fears when they are screaming while trying to latch on..or refuse to latch on. 

Try to google now (since you'll be delivering soon) at kellymom.com on photos or pictures that shows how to latch on and the correct latch on...to give you some idea.  Or if you have friends or family that have bf successfully..get them to be on standby to just show you the rope. 

I'll also suggest you to join the breastfeeding advocate network group on FB.  The lady, Gina Yong, is a very helpful person.  She can help you if you run into any problem...the mommies over there too can also share you with their experiences.  Don't worry..coz most moms go through the same fears and problems the first time.  You are definitely not alone on that. 

Even though I managed to bf successfully for 2 years...i can tell you that it wasn't so easy at first.  My supply is not abundant too and i had to work very hard to increase and maintain my supply. 

You may encounter many roadblocks..from latching on, to supply, to unsupportive family/friends, Confinement Ladies who doesn't encourage BF, blocked ducts, engorgement..so on so on..many of us here (and in FB) has gone through the same path too...just voice out and we'll be there to give some advice or lend our ears.

Good luck!


Added on September 5, 2011, 2:15 pmoh..i had no milk at exactly 1 month! I panicked..tried giving FM but son rejected.  I just kept on giving my breast while trying to get my milk flowing again using the method (posted on 1st page).

Babies are smart too..when you give them the best milk at first...they won't take any other milk later on.
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Really thanks alot. I'm looking forward to BF my baby soon but now need to wait for him to come out first.. Kinda losing my patient d.. haha.. Btw do you have any FB link to this lady Gina Yong that u mention? Would like to add her in FB. Thanks.. biggrin.gif

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post Sep 5 2011, 03:05 PM

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I'll put the link here later when i'm home as i'm currently in office..they block FB..so i can't access to it.

I hope nicKit..sees this so..she may post it first than me.
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post Sep 5 2011, 06:34 PM

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here u go..


http://www.facebook.com/#!/groups/128537811172/
TSnicKit
post Sep 6 2011, 12:23 PM

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Tess_87, sorry for the late reply... my milk (the white fatty one) comes in on the 5th day when i felt the engorgement... so u dun have to worry abt baby hungry coz u're giving him or her the best milk ever~! quoting from someone in the breatfeeding network - u can't buy bm off the shelf from tesco~! laugh.gif if possible get ur hb on ur side so u won't b alone in this bf battle... i say it's a battle coz u really have to "fight" a lot of things... as a new 1st time mum u'll b overwhelm by a lot things... if u can get support then u're in good hand... if ur hb is on ur side at least he can become ur shield should in-laws/CL/relatives/frens give any funny funny ideas... meantime either attend bf classes or get gina's book n get lots lots information so ppl will know u dun just simply do things... u did ur research so u know wat u're doing smile.gif

thanks, sbux, for helping out~!

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qarezma
post Sep 6 2011, 05:27 PM

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my BF journey bumpy again... reposting here what i posted on BFAN on FB:

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Im having inconsistent supply issues, and baby is just 4 weeks old!

Last nite was one of baby's fussing night.. he latched on at 1130 till 1am, and after that onwards he started getting restless and frustrated, pulling my nipples in anger (gosh it hurt so much), and i realised no more milk coming out, to soothe him i had to give him FM (i had EBM stored but i would need time to warm it up and by ...then my NB would cry the house down)

And just now at 9pm i had the same experience. Baby latched for 30mins or so and suddenly started the same frustrated pulling.. i tried pressing my nipples and i see no milk coming out.

I drink a lot of water and my diet is pretty much normal. I used to take fenugreek water in early days but lately i didnt take cos i noticed my supply was stable. My baby DF every 3 hours or so, any longer gap i would pump my milk out, except at nights, sometimes my baby can sleep 5 or 6 hours in a stretch.

Anyone face same problem as me? is this normal?
I am so tensed now seeing my supply going down so soon...
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any suggestions?
i took fenugreek water today and plan to get on oats tomorrow
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post Sep 6 2011, 08:37 PM

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@qarezma, hows your calcium intake?
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post Sep 6 2011, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(Syd G @ Sep 6 2011, 08:37 PM)
@qarezma, hows your calcium intake?
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im taking low fat milk 1 glass daily.. does it affect bm?
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post Sep 6 2011, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(qarezma @ Sep 6 2011, 10:07 PM)
im taking low fat milk 1 glass daily.. does it affect bm?
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bm contains a lot of cholesterol and fat that're important for baby's brain development.

prolly switch to fresh milk instead for a week?

i've had success with it smile.gif
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post Sep 6 2011, 10:49 PM

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syd, does fresh milk yogurt counts? coz the last time i did my medical checkup my phosphate (dunno spelling correct or not) level in my blood test was over the recommended... my mum asked the doc n asked if i had fresh milk... that time i was drinking fresh milk every week for 3-4 mths... i was scared n stopped taking fresh milk until recently i've succeeded in making my own yogurt using qarezma's recipe smile.gif
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post Sep 6 2011, 11:12 PM

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nic, which milk did u drink? HL?


Added on September 6, 2011, 11:14 pmBtw high phosphate level leads to low calcium..

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post Sep 7 2011, 12:34 AM

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Qarezma.... During the first 2-3 months....I woke up in the middle of the night to pump. Gina said that around 5am or so...that's the best time to pump as it gives the highest prolactin (I think...I also can't remember liao).

I took the fennel/fenugreek drink till about 5 months....so i think you shd continue for the moment as you are still only abt 1 month plus into bf. if u r fed up of fenugreek (I was)...try barley water. Just boil normally... And don't forget to eat the seeds too. At least the barley water u can drink thru out the day. A friend of mine takes Horlicks and she finds that her milk increases. U can try to see if it works. At least there ad be some alternatives.

Also...probably u are stressed abt your supply on top of handling a nb and a toddler...Which can be frustrating and tiring.

Hang in there....you are still at challenging times. My bf challenging times only lessen at 3-4 months.

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post Sep 7 2011, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(sbux @ Sep 5 2011, 06:34 PM)
Thanks alot sbux.. smile.gif


Added on September 7, 2011, 9:25 am
QUOTE(nicKit @ Sep 6 2011, 12:23 PM)
Tess_87, sorry for the late reply... my milk (the white fatty one) comes in on the 5th day when i felt the engorgement... so u dun have to worry abt baby hungry coz u're giving him or her the best milk ever~! quoting from someone in the breatfeeding network - u can't buy bm off the shelf from tesco~! laugh.gif if possible get ur hb on ur side so u won't b alone in this bf battle... i say it's a battle coz u really have to "fight" a lot of things... as a new 1st time mum u'll b overwhelm by a lot things... if u can get support then u're in good hand... if ur hb is on ur side at least he can become ur shield should in-laws/CL/relatives/frens give any funny funny ideas... meantime either attend bf classes or get gina's book n get lots lots information so ppl will know u dun just simply do things... u did ur research so u know wat u're doing smile.gif

thanks, sbux, for helping out~!

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nicKit, thanks.. My HB wont be with me during my 2 months confinement, me & BB will be staying at my IL's hse which is in kedah (we're actually staying & worki in Penang). So i'll be all alone.. HB will only visit us duirng weekend.. sigh, do hope i can really cope that 2 mths.. stress just to think of it.. ph34r.gif

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post Sep 7 2011, 09:32 AM

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qarezma... pls hang in there, hope & pray that u will be able to continue your BF journey! we all in LYN will support u as much as we can.

Like phythia said, u can pump a lot of milk at around 5am. I still wake up at 5am and pump for around 30min, cos I wake up anyway to cook for my baby!

I observed that Oats and Horlicks both increases BM supply. I take Oats Cereal drink (chocolate flavour), morning-after pumping around 5.30am and in the night mixed with Anmum Lacta.

During day time in office I take about 2 cups of horlicks. I heard horlicks is cooling (don't know how true) so u may not want to take too much horlicks since your're still in confinement period.


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Kit, i suppose i should take fresh milk then... once i am back at ILs, i bet they will get cows milk for me to drink smile.gif

Phythia, im kinda lazy in that case... i will try to get up at 5am tomorrow to pump or at least DF... my baby has rotating sleep timings.. like for some days he might be awake at night and DF every 2-3 hrs, but on other days he will sleep 5-6hrs direct... would this be one factor? How often should i take fenugreek? i took 2 glasses yday, and i feel there is a difference already.. i will also start taking horlicks then

thanks all for the inputs and encouragement..yday when i complain to hubby (sounded so stressed) he told me if i need to stop BF due to supply issue he would understand.. but now i feel it is not time to give up yet!
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post Sep 7 2011, 03:17 PM

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qarezma, hugs hugs... i dunno wat to say la... hehe...

syd, i took good day fresh milk 2liter... i dunno if my calcium is low coz my fingernails chipped very easily these days regardless long or short nails... should i take calcium supplements?

Tess_87, if ur ILs is supportive of bf then u should b in good hands... otherwise u'll have a handful to tackle apart from taking care of ur newborn smile.gif then agan we're here for u... if can get gina's book...
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post Sep 7 2011, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(qarezma @ Sep 7 2011, 12:50 PM)
Kit, i suppose i should take fresh milk then... once i am back at ILs, i bet they will get cows milk for me to drink smile.gif

Phythia, im kinda lazy in that case... i will try to get up at 5am tomorrow to pump or at least DF... my baby has rotating sleep timings.. like for some days he might be awake at night and DF every 2-3 hrs, but on other days he will sleep 5-6hrs direct... would this be one factor? How often should i take fenugreek? i took 2 glasses yday, and i feel there is a difference already.. i will also start taking horlicks then

thanks all for the inputs and encouragement..yday when i complain to hubby (sounded so stressed) he told me if i need to stop BF due to supply issue he would understand.. but now i feel it is not time to give up yet!
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I once complained to my hubby too...and he also said that if it's stressful...then stop. I didn't give up.
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it was a 'awwwww' moment when hubby said that.. hehe... miss him so much.. ive been at my mom's place 2 mths now..

another q, my NB poos once in 2 days.. or once a day.. its normal for bf baby? last time sanju on FM used to poo 3-4 times a day


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post Sep 7 2011, 04:09 PM

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q..it's ok. As long as the consistency and colour remains the same..it's fine.
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QUOTE(qarezma @ Sep 7 2011, 12:50 PM)
Kit, i suppose i should take fresh milk then... once i am back at ILs, i bet they will get cows milk for me to drink smile.gif

Phythia, im kinda lazy in that case... i will try to get up at 5am tomorrow to pump or at least DF... my baby has rotating sleep timings.. like for some days he might be awake at night and DF every 2-3 hrs, but on other days he will sleep 5-6hrs direct... would this be one factor? How often should i take fenugreek? i took 2 glasses yday, and i feel there is a difference already.. i will also start taking horlicks then

thanks all for the inputs and encouragement..yday when i complain to hubby (sounded so stressed) he told me if i need to stop BF due to supply issue he would understand.. but now i feel it is not time to give up yet!
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My wife encountered with this as well last time. What she did, she keeps on pumping. Eventually, your supply will be a lot. There were once where I nag her almost every 2 hours to pump breast milk.

Her breast milk supply was at her lowest after 1 month of confinement. Hardly keep even 1 bottle (6oz) per day. But slowly, after her "determined pumping", she managed to keep some breast milk. For now, I can safely say that if both of us are away for 1 month, my girl will not encounter with any short supply issue as we are having 1.5 months worth of breast milk stored.

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post Sep 8 2011, 12:10 AM

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surprise...
WOW... impressive! I can never fill up my freezer..

Qarezma..
is baby on full BM now? Cuz when my baby was on full BM, her highest record was 6 days... As long as the stool is not hard.. then should not be a problem.


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