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post Nov 22 2010, 01:40 PM

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Well the 2nd MO for the doubleshots they are still deciding the color. If you go and cast your vote for color :/ maybe but i doubt people like that color.
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post Nov 22 2010, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(THEswordmaster @ Nov 22 2010, 01:04 PM)
hmm... just wondering, is there a chance they'll make chrome double-shot keycaps? LOL It'll be so bling that i'll go OMGTOOBRIGHTIMMAGONNADIE!!! and i think the price will be crazy too lol.
Anyways, haven't heard of filco red switch before... or maybe storm88 is refering to Cherry Keyboard with red switch?
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i not too sure. But Filco telling me that they might able to support me in that. now still waiting info. so stay tune lor
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post Nov 22 2010, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(storm88 @ Nov 22 2010, 02:23 PM)
i not too sure. But Filco telling me that they might able to support me in that. now still waiting info. so stay tune lor
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Okay, I not really afford new key caps set now but if say the final color is purple please post it here I will join if only the purple key caps won the vote.


Added on November 22, 2010, 2:55 pm@moogle

about the double shot key caps, how about he backspace button?
The picture above is showing the 6Gv2 right because the 7G backspace is small single button, the big 1 can fit? if yes i really wan to change it to big backspace. How about he the original | or \ key on the layout?

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post Nov 22 2010, 03:14 PM

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Hi jas,


I just received my doubleshot key cap set today.


k i've sorted them all out in proper order. All keys accounted for.

Couldn't test type them cause my cherry keyboard hasn't arrived yet :/

But i can say that i really like the dolche color scheme. And people who thought that big font = ugly; well i can say they are wrong. Close up it's very nice biggrin.gif

The pictures don't do them justice doh.gif

All the letterings are crisp and clear; very easy to make out.


The diamond extra keys are good replacements for the windows, however i like the windows keys so i will stick to those instead.


Anyway, the backspace key is same size as the one on my Logitech G15 as a comparison. I don't have a Steelseries so i am not sure about that.


the set comes with 104 standard keys for qwerty layout.

Has a few extra keys such as

- 1x capslocks which is stepped.
- 1 x longer control key
- 1 x orange colored W A S D keys
- 1 x geekhack key


Added on November 22, 2010, 3:21 pmOk here is a picture of the Steelseries 7G

user posted image

Comparing it and my doubleshot set, the differences are

the enter is a J shape.

the key above the enter is a smaller size.

Also smaller backspace like you mentioned.


So these are the only 3 differences between the steelseries and my doubleshot set.



With that in mind

J-shaped Enter $8.49
2 Blank character keys $0.42


So the solution if you got this doubleshot set, is to get 2 blank character keys; and 1 j shaped enter. But would you want the backspace and the "\|" to be blank ??

doh.gif

Anyway this mo was originally for the Filco. But my Ducky keyboard closely resembles so it should fit nicely on my ducky biggrin.gif



This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Nov 22 2010, 03:21 PM
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post Nov 22 2010, 03:26 PM

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considering getting a mechanical keyboard for typing (comp science) and gaming (sc2 especially where my current cheapo keyboard been affecting my apm a tonne especially ghosting issues))...
so i think i would be deciding between razer blackwidow vs SS 6gv2...
which would u guys recommend...

blackwidow is only up to 6nkeys but i think its more than enuff rite (the 6gv2 have unlimited when it is connected via ps/2)...
pretty much concerned with the nkro issue since i am a sc2 player...
and i am tempted by the extra macro keys...
though i am pretty lost about the blue (though razer said they innovated from standard blue) vs black and had no experiences wit either...

thanks...

ps: i do type kinda hard since been using crappy keyboards for quite some time >.<

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post Nov 22 2010, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Nov 22 2010, 01:26 AM)
considering getting a mechanical keyboard for typing (comp science) and gaming (sc2 especially where my current cheapo keyboard been affecting my apm a tonne especially ghosting issues))...
so i think i would be deciding between razer blackwidow vs SS 6gv2...
which would u guys recommend...

blackwidow is only up to 6nkeys but i think its more than enuff rite (the 6gv2 have unlimited when it is connected via ps/2)...
pretty much concerned with the nkro issue since i am a sc2 player...
and i am tempted by the extra macro keys...
though i am pretty lost about the blue (though razer said they innovated from standard blue) vs black and had no experiences wit either...

thanks...

ps: i do type kinda hard since been using crappy keyboards for quite some time >.<
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razer will be a good choice for you.
SCII wont use more then 6 keys in 1 time.
so you don have to worry about.

but, if you never use mech kb before,
black wont be an issue for you at all even you doesn't type much.
i suggest you go try both, and then decide which one to buy.
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post Nov 22 2010, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(OCN_fssbzz @ Nov 22 2010, 03:49 PM)
razer will be a good choice for you.
SCII wont use more then 6 keys in 1 time.
so you don have to worry about.

but, if you never use mech kb before,
black wont be an issue for you at all even you doesn't type much.
i suggest you go try both, and then decide which one to buy.
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i do type a lot (especially when i'm coding)...

the problem wit my current keyboard is that i do press my keys in quick succession especially during sc2, i'm nt sure is it lag or nkro issue but they tend to either delay or clump together...
an example would be: me selecting a probe and make a pylon then go over to my nexus to chrono and make probes but somehow the probe is still within selection with my nexus (2 b e shift rightclick 1 c click e)

maybe i'll go give both of them a try during fairs or something...
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post Nov 22 2010, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(OCN_fssbzz @ Nov 22 2010, 09:44 AM)
nothing done there, just EU layout instead of US layout.
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EU layout feel so much better, wonder why not all keyboard based on it...
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Btw, Moogle, post some pics with your doubleshot on ur 7G thanks~ this thread nid picture to survive drool.gif
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post Nov 22 2010, 04:19 PM

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ok after more reading i think i would go wit the 6gv2 especially after reading http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=NKe...ogy+and+Results
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post Nov 22 2010, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Nov 22 2010, 04:03 PM)
i do type a lot (especially when i'm coding)...

the problem wit my current keyboard is that i do press my keys in quick succession especially during sc2, i'm nt sure is it lag or nkro issue but they tend to either delay or clump together...
an example would be: me selecting a probe and make a pylon then go over to my nexus to chrono and make probes but somehow the probe is still within selection with my nexus (2 b e shift rightclick 1 c click e)

maybe i'll go give both of them a try during fairs or something...
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BW is good enough for your situation and BW price also good.
Basically BW got no problem with antighosting quite good in optimizing, only problem is ZXC cant be stroked together.

For typing experience, theoretically MX blue is more advance but also more to personal preference.
For my case i hate BW because it is clicky that totally difference from my 7G's no click.

For gaming performance, MX black should be better choice.
With no click 6Gv2, it is easier to do double tapping and triple tapping, example when you summoning and teleport your bunch of stalkers to opponent area by pylon, i think the way you do is select the gate by keyboard shortcut then do double tap or whatever to spam stalkers right (mostly i did).

Anyway since you say you do lot programming coding work, BW is good enough in typing experience and most people think type on BW is not as tiring as MX black.
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post Nov 22 2010, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(jay @ Nov 22 2010, 04:15 PM)
EU layout feel so much better, wonder why not all keyboard based on it...
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Btw, Moogle, post some pics with your doubleshot on ur 7G thanks~ this thread nid picture to survive  drool.gif
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no no.

I don't have sg 7g.

I ordered a ducky 9008, which isn't arriving until mid December next month. cry.gif
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post Nov 22 2010, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(jasmineivan @ Nov 22 2010, 05:17 PM)
BW is good enough for your situation and BW price also good.
Basically BW got no problem with antighosting quite good in optimizing, only problem is ZXC cant be stroked together.

For typing experience, theoretically MX blue is more advance but also more to personal preference.
For my case i hate BW because it is clicky that totally difference from my 7G's no click.

For gaming performance, MX black should be better choice.
With no click 6Gv2, it is easier to do double tapping and triple tapping, example when you summoning and teleport your bunch of stalkers to opponent area by pylon, i think the way you do is select the gate by keyboard shortcut then do double tap or whatever to spam stalkers right (mostly i did).

Anyway since you say you do lot programming coding work, BW is good enough in typing experience and most people think type on BW is not as tiring as MX black.
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now that u mention it, i do need to double tap a lot for my hotkeys...
mostly getting 6g v2...
saving up for 7g mostly if i cant get enuff by that time (road tax + inssurance) i'll jz get the 6gv2...
thanks for ur input mate....
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post Nov 22 2010, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Nov 22 2010, 05:55 PM)
now that u mention it, i do need to double tap a lot for my hotkeys...
mostly getting 6g v2...
saving up for 7g mostly if i cant get enuff by that time (road tax + inssurance) i'll jz get the 6gv2...
thanks for ur input mate....
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If your considering the 7G, why not just get a Ducky 9008 instead ?

Did you notice i posted that PChome (Taiwan company) is doing a 20 USD global shipping promotion for this month only ? (weight is for as much as 10 keyboards, so shouldn't be a problem)

It's a good deal to get a Ducky keyboard and for cheaper than a 7G. If you get the palm rest included, i am pretty sure the cost is still below that of a 7G and would be much more comfortable than the Steelseries plastic palm rest.

They also seem to have Filco keyboards as well as the cherry mx red G80-3494 nod.gif


Anyway i suggest you check out the pricings first to compare before you decide :}


Remember the steelseries is using cherry mx black switches. G80-3494 is red switches. Filco and ducky have choices between brown, blue and black cherry mx switches.

When buying a mechanical keyboard, you must seriously consider the switches that come with them, because they are different from one another doh.gif

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Nov 22 2010, 06:05 PM
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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Nov 22 2010, 05:59 PM)
If your considering the 7G, why not just get a Ducky 9008 instead ?

Did you notice i posted that PChome (Taiwan company) is doing a 20 USD global shipping promotion for this month only ? (weight is for as much as 10 keyboards, so shouldn't be a problem)

It's a good deal to get a Ducky keyboard and for cheaper than a 7G. If you get the palm rest included, i am pretty sure the cost is still below that of a 7G and would be much more comfortable than the Steelseries plastic palm rest.

They also seem to have Filco keyboards as well as the cherry mx red G80-3494  nod.gif
Anyway i suggest you check out the pricings first to compare before you decide :}
Remember the steelseries is using cherry mx black switches. G80-3494 is red switches. Filco and ducky have choices between brown, blue and black cherry mx switches.

When buying a mechanical keyboard, you must seriously consider the switches that come with them, because they are different from one another doh.gif
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ya pretty much decided on blue/ black
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post Nov 22 2010, 06:30 PM

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Nov 22 2010, 05:55 PM)
now that u mention it, i do need to double tap a lot for my hotkeys...
mostly getting 6g v2...
saving up for 7g mostly if i cant get enuff by that time (road tax + inssurance) i'll jz get the 6gv2...
thanks for ur input mate....
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The price (including shipping etc) for my cherry red switch keyboard is almost the same as 7G..... consider getting that bro smile.gif
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post Nov 22 2010, 07:13 PM

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@evofantasy

since your haven't buy it yet, got some suggestion for you.
try check out the price of the filco leather palm rest and see whether got any opportunity to import it. It should be more comfortable compare to 7G's rest and look elegant also.

Some more you no need to bundle the keyboard and rest together. Then maybe can wait later only get the rest (note: the leather wrist rest is very rarely seen in malaysia, if don't have such effort to looking for it better just take 7G)
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get a regular wrist rest from 3M, or Filco leather if you can afford.
keyboard go with 6Gv2, no need 7G,
7G's wrist rest is already fix, you cant move it, is fixed in a position.
and it is just a plastic.

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Nov 22 2010, 03:26 PM)
considering getting a mechanical keyboard for typing (comp science) and gaming (sc2 especially where my current cheapo keyboard been affecting my apm a tonne especially ghosting issues))...
so i think i would be deciding between razer blackwidow vs SS 6gv2...
which would u guys recommend...

blackwidow is only up to 6nkeys but i think its more than enuff rite (the 6gv2 have unlimited when it is connected via ps/2)...
pretty much concerned with the nkro issue since i am a sc2 player...
and i am tempted by the extra macro keys...
though i am pretty lost about the blue (though razer said they innovated from standard blue) vs black and had no experiences wit either...

thanks...

ps: i do type kinda hard since been using crappy keyboards for quite some time >.<
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The Blackwidow is 2kro not 6kro, zxc fails

I don't think it'd be an issue in rts games though, unlike guitar hero / o2jam
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post Nov 23 2010, 12:09 AM

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okies thanks for the advice...
maybe getting it somewhere next month after i am done wit my car =p
pretty much decided on what i would be getting depending on my budget (hw much i can saved up)
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post Nov 23 2010, 01:07 AM

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Nov 22 2010, 10:09 AM)
okies thanks for the advice...
maybe getting it somewhere next month after i am done wit my car =p
pretty much decided on what i would be getting depending on my budget (hw much i can saved up)
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my best suggestion will be brown switches, if you type a lot and SCII a lot.


fruitdealer use filco brown biggrin.gif

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