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evofantasy
post Nov 22 2010, 03:26 PM

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considering getting a mechanical keyboard for typing (comp science) and gaming (sc2 especially where my current cheapo keyboard been affecting my apm a tonne especially ghosting issues))...
so i think i would be deciding between razer blackwidow vs SS 6gv2...
which would u guys recommend...

blackwidow is only up to 6nkeys but i think its more than enuff rite (the 6gv2 have unlimited when it is connected via ps/2)...
pretty much concerned with the nkro issue since i am a sc2 player...
and i am tempted by the extra macro keys...
though i am pretty lost about the blue (though razer said they innovated from standard blue) vs black and had no experiences wit either...

thanks...

ps: i do type kinda hard since been using crappy keyboards for quite some time >.<

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post Nov 22 2010, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(OCN_fssbzz @ Nov 22 2010, 03:49 PM)
razer will be a good choice for you.
SCII wont use more then 6 keys in 1 time.
so you don have to worry about.

but, if you never use mech kb before,
black wont be an issue for you at all even you doesn't type much.
i suggest you go try both, and then decide which one to buy.
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i do type a lot (especially when i'm coding)...

the problem wit my current keyboard is that i do press my keys in quick succession especially during sc2, i'm nt sure is it lag or nkro issue but they tend to either delay or clump together...
an example would be: me selecting a probe and make a pylon then go over to my nexus to chrono and make probes but somehow the probe is still within selection with my nexus (2 b e shift rightclick 1 c click e)

maybe i'll go give both of them a try during fairs or something...
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post Nov 22 2010, 04:19 PM

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ok after more reading i think i would go wit the 6gv2 especially after reading http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=NKe...ogy+and+Results
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post Nov 22 2010, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(jasmineivan @ Nov 22 2010, 05:17 PM)
BW is good enough for your situation and BW price also good.
Basically BW got no problem with antighosting quite good in optimizing, only problem is ZXC cant be stroked together.

For typing experience, theoretically MX blue is more advance but also more to personal preference.
For my case i hate BW because it is clicky that totally difference from my 7G's no click.

For gaming performance, MX black should be better choice.
With no click 6Gv2, it is easier to do double tapping and triple tapping, example when you summoning and teleport your bunch of stalkers to opponent area by pylon, i think the way you do is select the gate by keyboard shortcut then do double tap or whatever to spam stalkers right (mostly i did).

Anyway since you say you do lot programming coding work, BW is good enough in typing experience and most people think type on BW is not as tiring as MX black.
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now that u mention it, i do need to double tap a lot for my hotkeys...
mostly getting 6g v2...
saving up for 7g mostly if i cant get enuff by that time (road tax + inssurance) i'll jz get the 6gv2...
thanks for ur input mate....
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post Nov 22 2010, 06:30 PM

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Nov 22 2010, 05:59 PM)
If your considering the 7G, why not just get a Ducky 9008 instead ?

Did you notice i posted that PChome (Taiwan company) is doing a 20 USD global shipping promotion for this month only ? (weight is for as much as 10 keyboards, so shouldn't be a problem)

It's a good deal to get a Ducky keyboard and for cheaper than a 7G. If you get the palm rest included, i am pretty sure the cost is still below that of a 7G and would be much more comfortable than the Steelseries plastic palm rest.

They also seem to have Filco keyboards as well as the cherry mx red G80-3494  nod.gif
Anyway i suggest you check out the pricings first to compare before you decide :}
Remember the steelseries is using cherry mx black switches. G80-3494 is red switches. Filco and ducky have choices between brown, blue and black cherry mx switches.

When buying a mechanical keyboard, you must seriously consider the switches that come with them, because they are different from one another doh.gif
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ya pretty much decided on blue/ black
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post Nov 23 2010, 12:09 AM

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okies thanks for the advice...
maybe getting it somewhere next month after i am done wit my car =p
pretty much decided on what i would be getting depending on my budget (hw much i can saved up)
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post Nov 23 2010, 01:32 AM

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QUOTE(jasmineivan @ Nov 23 2010, 01:11 AM)
I can I will get the filco leather rest also.

But if say without the leather rest then I will choose 7G. Even though the port is just 1.0 usb, but without any problem I use it for mouse and some time small file transfer to my phone. (useful also)
True the rest is just plastic not worth that much of money, but if no other option I will still get it.
I using the audio jack also, my case is if always plug and unplug the head set to my cpu which i put under my table is troublesome.

Concluded if the filco rest and 6Gv2 is available i will choose them, otherwise i prefer 7G
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after reading about the wrist rest mostly i'll skip 7g especially since my mobo support usb 3.0...
one thing i like is the backspace and enter of the 6Gv2...
currently looking at filco for some better idea about their products =p


Added on November 23, 2010, 2:18 amproblem wit filco is getting them over here (the need to import etc) =(

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post Dec 14 2010, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(xcen @ Dec 14 2010, 08:53 PM)
The problem with Cherry Blue for most gamers is the actuation point, it's definitely harder to get used to, and quite unecessary since they can just opt for Browns.

I think they prefer NKRO just because of namesake. NKRO is just overrated. Useful in some situations, but mostly just a luxury feature.
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actually it is said that boxer is testing on Blue (from TL forum)...
i just feel that NKRO is needed when u move very fast (around 200apm) that keys overlap (and they are not at the usual gaming optimized keys)
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post Dec 22 2010, 02:21 AM

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if filco is coming next year i think i'll wait for filco...
since they have brown switches...
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post Dec 24 2010, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(storm88 @ Dec 24 2010, 03:44 PM)
Estmated price for Filco keyboard:

Majetouch 104 w/o NKR BROWN - RM 330
Majetouch 104 NKR BROWN + BLUE KEYSET - RM400
Majetouch NKR Tenkeyless BROWN - RM380
Majetouch Gamer Blue 104 NKR BROWN + RED KEYSET - RM450

All price is estimate only. Please dont pm me to buy as i not seller ya.
Thanks smile.gif btw

Merry Xmas
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lol was gonna PM u until i saw the last line =(
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post Dec 26 2010, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(StratOS @ Dec 26 2010, 12:59 PM)
Blue switches i tried we.. hard to spam APM..i feel like 7g better ler.. tried BW and dont really like tat..
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there was rumor that some pro gamers like boxer was testing blue switches (which they said influenced razer to make BW blue which is hard to believe)...
still waiting for filco brown to be in msia which i feel is the most suitable...
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post Dec 29 2010, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(Cyclonechuah @ Dec 29 2010, 01:22 PM)
I believe Leopold will only included one Orange Leopold Keycap Doubleshot where the other 4 doubleshot keycaps are not included.

But i will be meeting a Leopold Employee Tomorrow in Kuala Lumpur to have further discussion. If it's possible, i`ll try to bring in Leopold Leopold Keyboard to Malaysia. So you guys can get for a cheap price  brows.gif

There's still alot need to be discuss with them. i'll try to post more information once after i have a discussion with Leopold.
Actually, This keyboard was a sample sent by Leopold from DHL, There's no way to purchase the keyboard for now because Leopold doesn't accept Paypal or Credit Card.

But i may try to bring this keyboard to Malaysia.
Yeah, sorry about the flash effect, The room that i taken picture is kinda dark, so it is required to have flash. And also because of my Crappy Photographing skill  tongue.gif

I'll post a side by side comparison picture once i get back to home(Taiping) where my Steelseries 7G and Ducky DK9008 is.
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good luck bro...
yup i think as long as it around the 300-400 range between BW and 7G would be an ideal price...
so far their review been really good so any1 looking for mechanical keyboard would surely look for it...
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post Jan 11 2011, 05:42 PM

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getting impatient for filco to be here in msia...
want the brown keys so much >.<
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post Jan 12 2011, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(Cyclonechuah @ Jan 12 2011, 02:48 AM)
have some patient, i think it will be available soon.  smile.gif
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yup waiting cause sc2 is frustrating for me now...
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post Jan 13 2011, 01:56 AM

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just a question, why are people getting the tenkeyless over the full keyboard?
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post Jan 13 2011, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Jan 13 2011, 10:59 AM)
10 keyless
Pros:

1. space saver on your desk.  More room for your mouse to be positioned closer to the center.

2. portability less weight to carry around if your a lanner
Cons:

1. If you need numpad keys your screwed. However keyboards like the Topre 87U have a virtual numpad; however that keyboard is expensive.
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cause i was thinking that u still need the numpad for typing and gaming alike...
so was wondering about it...
of course i am considering the tenkeyless thus the question...
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post Jan 13 2011, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Jan 13 2011, 01:01 PM)
I'm sure if you can live with a laptop keyboard, tenkeyless means the same thing
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i cant lol...
for laptop i use external keyboard >.<
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post Jan 13 2011, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(jasmineivan @ Jan 13 2011, 04:05 PM)
If less than RM400 then is nice. Do you think it bundled with any wrist rest??


Added on January 13, 2011, 4:08 pm

10keyless mainly for space saving purpose.

If you have more than enough space and use numpad quite frequently then no point to get 10keyless keyboard.
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hmmm true...
willget the full one then when its here
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post Jan 21 2011, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(jasmineivan @ Jan 21 2011, 03:22 PM)
Maybe you are too superb. Always actuate the A key at 50g precisely which cant register keystroke at 7G.

Haiz, why not Razer release BW with MX red or brown, if yes i sure will get 1 even though it sell at 500 also never mind.
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blue have the clicky sound thus easier to promote to 'gamers' as something new
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post Jan 24 2011, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(Iphone4Lover @ Jan 24 2011, 04:02 PM)
Try to widen it up again? brows.gif
Ducky 1008 should be a good choice too for full size kb yet below RM300(import). It come with NKRO, mix choice of switch and 4 extra keys(calculator) which is quite worth to get.
By putting other switch choice and macro in i am willing to pay RM600(or double of what BWU cost) for it. sweat.gif
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kinda worried about the warranty etc if imported though...
besides never imported anything before =(

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