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Manchester United Club History

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Honours:

Division Two Champions (2): 1936, 1975
Division One Champions (7): 1908, 1911, 1952, 1956, 1957, 1965, 1967
Premiership (11): 1993, 1994, 1996, 1997, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2003, 2007, 2008, 2009

European Cup/UEFA Champions League (3): 1968, 1999, 2008
European Cup-Winners' Cup (1): 1991
European Super Cup (1): 1991

FA Charity/Community Shield (18 (14 outright, 4 shared)): 1908, 1911, 1952, 1956, 1957, 1965*, 1967*, 1977*, 1983, 1990*, 1993, 1994, 1996, 1997, 2003, 2007, 2008, 2010 (* = joint holders)
FA Cup Winners (11): 1909, 1948, 1963, 1977, 1983, 1985, 1990, 1994, 1996, 1999, 2004
League Cup Winners (4): 1992, 2006, 2009, 2010

Toyota Inter-continental Cup Winners (1): 1999
FIFA Club World Cup (1): 2008

Managers:
Alex Ferguson 06-11-1986 Present
Ron Atkinson 01-06-1981 06-11-1986
Dave Sexton 14-07-1977 01-04-1981
Tommy Docherty 22-12-1972 03-07-1977
Frank O'Farrell 08-06-1971 19-12-1972
Matt Busby 28-12-1970 02-06-1971
Wilf McGuinness 10-08-1970 28-12-1970
Matt Busby 01-02-1945 08-06-1969
Walter Crickmer 01-08-1944 01-02-1945
Jimmy Porter 01-08-1938 31-05-1944
Scott Duncan 01-06-1932 01-09-1937
Walter Crickmer 01-04-1931 01-06-1932
Herbert Bamlett 01-04-1927 01-04-1931
Clarence Hildrith 01-10-1926 01-04-1927
John Chapman 01-10-1921 01-10-1926
John Robson 01-12-1914 01-10-1921
Ernest Magnall 01-09-1900 01-09-1912

Record Home Attendance: 76,098 31/3/2007 Premier League (Man Utd vs Blackburn) (83,260 for United v Arsenal at Maine Road in 1948)

Record league win: 10-1 v Wolves 15/10/1892 Division 1

Record league defeat: 0-7 v Blackburn 10/4/1926 Division 1

Record league appearances: 606 Sir Bobby Charlton 1956/73

Record league goalscorer: 199 Sir Bobby Charlton 1956/73

Record transfer fee received: 80,000,000 pounds for Cristiano Ronaldo to Real Madrid July 2009

Record transfer fee paid: 30,750 000 pounds for Dimitar Berbatov from Tottenham (August 2008)


AS the world's biggest and richest club, Manchester United reach a global fanbase.

Part of the attraction for fans around the world has been the football luminaries, such as George Best and Sir Bobby Charlton, who have graced the Old Trafford turf in a Manchester United shirt over the years.

Recently, Manchester United have continued to attract or develop some of the game's biggest names, with England stalwarts such as Paul Scholes and David Beckham having been regular fixtures in the Reds line-up.

The Manchester United team, past and present, reads like a who's who of world football.

It is only fitting that a great team should grace a great stadium. And with Old Trafford's recent development and the closure of Wembley, the ground is easily the largest in English football, holding in excess of 60,000 fans.

Despite this capacity, the demand to see United in action is so great that tickets are hard to come by.

But it isn't only Manchester United fans who flock to Old Trafford. The standard of the ground is such that it regularly hosts high-profile games, most notably, the Champions League Final and Great Britain rugby league games.

Rock fans have also made use of the Reds's facilities, watching a number of high-profile acts at the ground.

But it's football that will forever be synonymous with the Reds famous ground - and with good reason.

The last decade has seen Manchester United under the shrewd leadership of Sir Alex Ferguson maintain a virtual stranglehold on the Premiership crown.

Manchester United has won the league no fewer than 17 times in their history - 10 times in the last 11 seasons. They are also Cup Kings too, winning the FA cup 11 times, the league cup twice, as well as winning the European Super Cup, European Cup Winner's Cup, and 3 times being crowned European Cup champions.

Manchester United has long become a name associated with success both on and off the pitch.

As club profits continue to grow, Manchester United have become one of the richest sports clubs on the planet.

With supporters club branches on every continent, it's hard to go any where in the world and not see somebody wearing the famous red shirt of Manchester United.

Manchester United Club Info

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Old Trafford

Nickname: The Red Devils

Ground: Old Trafford

Pitch Size: 116 x 76 yards (106.0704 x 69.4944 meter)

Capacity: 76,000

Address: Sir Matt Busby Way, Old Trafford, Manchester

Postcode: M160RA

Directions: From North: Leave the M60 at junction 12 for M602 (Salford / Manchester). At the end of M602 (Jtn 3) follow the signs for Salford Quays and Trafford Park. At the roundabout turn right into Trafford Road (A5063), then at the bridge over Manchester Ship canal, keep in the right hand lane and turn right. Next, follow this road round to Trafford Wharf Road, and then left onto Watersreach. Continue through the traffic lights onto Sir Matt Busby Way.

From South: Leave M6 at junction 19, then take the A56 towards Manchester Airport. Join the M56 to Manchester, going past the Airport and then follow the signs for the M60 (Leeds / Liverpool). Leave M60 at Jtn 7 (A56 Chester Road) following signs for Manchester United Football Club. Turn left into Sir Matt Busby Way.

Ticket prices: 25 pounds upwards, concessions from 12.50 pounds. Tickets for the home sections are usually only available to members of the club and are normally allocated by ballot.

Contact information: Ticket Office: 0161 868 8020
Main Telephone: 0161 868 8000

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Ex-United players that have moved on to become managers.

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STEVE BRUCE (1987-1996): Took his first steps in management with Sheffield United in 1998, then swiftly moved on to Huddersfield, Wigan and Crystal Palace. Left Selhurst Park in acrimonious fashion after Birmingham targeted him as the replacement for Trevor Francis in 1991. Took Blues into the Premier League but after a heavy FA Cup defeat is struggling to keep his job.

MARTIN POWELL (1971-1983): Stylish and well-respected Scotland centre-half whose authoritative nature appeared to make him a natural for the management game. Lasted four months at Burnley.

SIR BOBBY CHARLTON (1956-1973): Arguably the finest English player of all time proved to be an unmitigated disaster as a manager. Claimed he was not given the resources to make a decent job of it at Preston but was never lured back into management following his departure after a single season.

STEVE COPPELL (1975-1983): After a knee injury cut his playing career short at just 28, Coppell turned his attention to management. Steered Crystal Palace into the FA Cup final and then third place in the old First Division - the Eagles' highest ever - the following season. It was the first of four stints in charge at Selhurst Park in a career which has seen him move to Manchester City (for only six games), Brentford and Brighton. Now at Reading and about to steer the Royals into the top flight for the first time.

PADDY CRERAND (1962-1971): A key figure in United's 1968 European Cup triumph, Crerand lasted five months at Northampton before getting the bullet and, like Charlton, never managed again.

MARK HUGHES (1983-86, 1988-95): Hughes was never tipped as a manager by Ferguson but has taken to the game with ease. Took Wales into the Euro 2004 play-offs. Took over at Blackburn shortly afterwards, steering Rovers away from danger in his first season. Currently in contention for a Champions League spot.

BRIAN KIDD (1967-1974): Another European Cup winner who proved to be a poor manager. Got itchy feet in 1998 after spending seven years as Sir Alex Ferguson's highly-rated assistant. Took command at Blackburn but dismissed six months later.

BRYAN ROBSON (1981-94): United's inspirational leader under Ron Atkinson and Ferguson. There are two schools of thought on his stint at Middlesbrough - he either spent lots and achieved little (relegation and two losing finals) or he laid the platform for the Teessiders to become an established Premiership outfit. Kept West Brom up in extraordinary fashion last year but back in trouble again this season.

GORDON STRACHAN (1984-89): Scotland international who won the FA Cup with United and the title of the pre-Premiership era with Leeds. Sacked after five years at when the Sky Blues lost top-flight status, then enjoyed success at Southampton - reaching the 2003 Cup final - before resigning to spend more time with his family. Now at Celtic, has recovered from a humiliating Champions League exit to Artmedia Bratislava, and, after winning his first trophy on Sunday in the CIS Insurance Cup, is set to clinch the Scottish Premier League.

NOBBY STILES (1960-71): Along with Charlton, one of only two Englishmen to have won the World Cup and European Cup, he replaced his former England and United team-mate at Preston, with limited success. After a brief stint in Vancouver, returned to England to take over as manager of West Brom. Sacked after five months, having gained just three wins.
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3. Patrice Evra
5. Rio Ferdinand
6. Wes Brown
12. Chris Smalling
15. Nemanja Vidic
20. Fabio da Silva
21. Rafael da Silva
22. John O'Shea
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45. Oliver Gill

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8. Anderson
11. Ryan Giggs
13. Park Ji-Sung
16. Michael Carrick
17. Nani
18. Paul Scholes
24. Darren Fletcher
25. Antonio Valencia
26. Gabriel Obertan
28. Darron Gibson
33. Tiago Manuel Dias Correia (Bebe)
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46. Cameron Stewart * On Loan To Yeovil Town until 17/01/11 - Link *
47. Oliver Norwood

Striker
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9. Dimitar Berbatov
10. Wayne Rooney
14. Javier Hernandez
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27. Federico Macheda
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QUOTE(alien2003 @ Oct 20 2010, 12:03 AM)
Well, he could head back to Toffees by the Webster rulling which means he will cost them around 5mil which is within Toffees's budget? After all, they bought Saha "The Glassman" from us  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Calvin871989 @ Oct 20 2010, 12:03 AM)
calvin will be putting on his giggs jersey tomorrow to uni.

"what a run, oh! what a goal! the boy's a genius"

"and its a wonderful run from giggs!"

oh yeah baby! legend right there!
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Honour your shirt. Appreciate for what Roo has done for the club as long as he is not in the sky blue of manchester.
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QUOTE(Pliskin @ Oct 20 2010, 12:03 AM)
this is soooo disappointing....more so towards rooney's change of heart for United and his doggedness to leave, rather than losing him as a Devil....sigh....

i personally thought Rooney is the type of player that will stay for life at United, and become a legend for United....after all, his desire and lung-bursting performances for United over the years rilli showed the love he has for the club....only for this shocking news to come out in the open, by Sir Alex no less, is rilli hard to comprehend....

maybe, just maybe, some other outside factors is influencing his decision to leave....at 1st, i tot the only believable source whether he's leaving or not, would be from Rooney himself....but words from Sir Alex hold no less truth in it....sigh,i i'm terribly disappointed....

if it's rilli true already that he's leaving, then i wish him all the best in the future, and thanks for all the service that he has put in over the years....love him or hate him, Rooney did gave us some incredible memories of his goals and contributions to United....the goal which he volleyed 1st time from Smith's knockdown against Newcastle stands out....and also the lung-bursting sprint counter attack goal from our own half against Arsenal last season is also a memorable one....

my only wish is that if he does move, it will be to Spain or Italy....not to Chelsea or City....to think that we could lose such a player for only 5 million pounds in the summer due to the Webster ruling is rilli heart-wrenching....

i wish there are more players like Giggsy, Scholesy and Neville, who shows tremendous love for the club, and honour to stay with United for life....
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QUOTE(mhyug @ Oct 20 2010, 12:05 AM)
that is a big one...what can we do now??throw support??demand answers??launch a campaign similar to the one we have for the yanks......i think it all depends now on his response....


Added on October 20, 2010, 12:07 am

people say they are a dying breed of players...i say its already an extinct one.not a single one player these days are like that.and man i was so full of myself wayne would turn out to be like those 3 guys...and now all i get is shit on the face.....
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our battle is far from over......time to shift our focus on the match at hand....tho with a hint of disappointment that is......

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QUOTE(nizamhameed @ Oct 20 2010, 12:11 AM)
i think the situation can be improved, we still got two more months before January.
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it all depends on his side now.we all know what where the club, the fans the gaffer stand on this. nod.gif
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i think our rebuilding phase just got tougher...as one of the fulcrums of the team now leaving...Giggs scholes VDS gone soon....haih hancur lah our hopes for the elusive 19th for the moment..plus that stupid yank debt...arghhh...gotta embrace for dark times mannn
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Rooney has been very quiet about all this....maybe after Sir Alex's disclosure, Rooney will come out and gives us his version of events....

ya, it's very sad to see all the nurturing Sir Alex has put onto Rooney, only to see him so disappointed by Rooney's action....my heart goes out to Sir Alex....i never seen him so disappointed in a player leaving....u can see the hurt in his eyes...

although there's another 2 and a half months to go to january....maybe by then, Rooney would have seen things from Sir Alex's perspective, and realized that the gaffer is having Rooney's best interest at heart....

this piece of news is so far the biggest one this season, toppling Liverpool's ownership saga by the sheer shock value...


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i think now the team is gonna be build around either Berbatov or Hernandez. Unless some future star comes in.
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New thread = Rooney insaf d ?
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If Roo's leaving it means there will be huge transition. First Ron then Tevez and now Roo. VDS,giggs,nev and scholes are retiring sooner than later. Rio and Vida is at the highest peak. The squad that winning double are really shrinking, I'm pretty sure Sir Alex has a long term to rebuild the team. Cheer up smile.gif

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QUOTE(alien2003 @ Oct 20 2010, 12:03 AM)
Well, he could head back to Toffees by the Webster rulling which means he will cost them around 5mil which is within Toffees's budget? After all, they bought Saha "The Glassman" from us  tongue.gif
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i rather take the 5 m then 80m to sell him to the Sheikhs!!!
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there is no loyalty in this game anymore. utterly disappointed..
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Been reading alot from the previous thread and went to youtube to watch some video, then bumped into this...



He didn't want to leave the club, but he had to. And he still loves this club. And we love him. nod.gif
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1) SAF had no choice but to come out to clear the air. Rooney is the heart of the current man utd team, in the fan's minds, as well as within the team. All these reports about him wanting to leave, etc etc, will effect the players and the fans.

2) I don't believe any objective person (man utd fan or not) seeing SAF's interview will choose to side with Rooney. SAF has been very frank, and very honest in his explanation of what happened, and one can't doubt his version of events.

3) With that said, Rooney actions truly are a betrayal. If you really feel you must leave the club, leave the club in a better way than this. Rooney has gone about this in about as destructively as he could. Being the star of the team, and having been nurtured, protected, and guided by the team for so long, Rooney should have also considered the aspect of having some respect and gratitude to the team.

4) Could he have not chosen a better time to leave? He is just following his own needs and wants, and not considering the club at all.

5) What will this selfish timing cost the club? a) The club will definitely not be able to get as good a price for him, meaning lost revenue, b) Will effect severely effect the stability of the team and its chances for silverware this season.

6) it is also a personal betrayal to SAF, the fans, and to his teamates.


If rooney maintains that he wants to go at the end of his current contract, then he doesn't deserve to be remembered fondly by the fans or to anybody else at the club.

Still want to make banner of him? Ptui.


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QUOTE(Reon @ Oct 20 2010, 12:29 AM)
Been reading alot from the previous thread and went to youtube to watch some video, then bumped into this...



He didn't want to leave the club, but he had to. And he still loves this club. And we love him.  nod.gif
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In Fergie, I Trust. No player is bigger than the club. If he really wants to leave the club, let him go. No matter how this club become I will always support them.
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i applaud SAF's willingness to come out.it's not like he's blasting rooney-his voice is nowhere near angry..it's so full of sadness and disappointment
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QUOTE(schmeichel7 @ Oct 19 2010, 11:29 PM)
There must be a genuine reason....

He's never done this.. Even during his rows with Becks, Stam, Ruud, Keano, Kanchelskis....

I sense that he is trying to advise Wayne in a way to think again before leaving.... Sir Alex was asked if the door is still open for Rooney, he instantly said "of course"...

I dunno.. maybe it's a lost hope... I don't want to hope too much. But what I hope is, is that we are able to move on properly.. this club is based on tradition as what Sir Alex said.. even during Sir Matt's day. No player is bigger than the club. Period.
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QUOTE(khelben @ Oct 19 2010, 11:34 PM)
Yeah Ronaldo definitely showed more class in a similar situation.

Oh well. Thanks for everthing wazza.

Imma sell my rooney in FIFA11

Time for Macheda and Hernandez to shine!
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QUOTE(joonwei23 @ Oct 19 2010, 11:34 PM)
Will be even weird seeing him in BLUE. Sigh sad.gif
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QUOTE(dlct87 @ Oct 19 2010, 11:35 PM)
SAF was tearing up at the final part of the video....never seen him so sad, and so monotonous during an interview sad.gif
to make an old man this sad, is unacceptable....why you did it Wayne....
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will burn all my rooney jerseys if he join citeh...seriously
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QUOTE(longamwai @ Oct 20 2010, 12:24 AM)
i rather take the 5 m then 80m to sell him to the Sheikhs!!!
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Been reading alot from the previous thread and went to youtube to watch some video, then bumped into this...



He didn't want to leave the club, but he had to. And he still loves this club. And we love him.
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From SAF's interview, you can see how betrayed he feels about this whole affair. Remember the part where he said he told Rooney "Look, just remember one thing – respect the club"?

I don't think SAF will look back as kindly at rooney as he does with Beckham, RVN, or the others who've left.
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what to do rooney too busy thinking of underaged and overaged comfort women  doh.gif
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The inevitable has finally happened... Why can't he just do it in a good manner. Ronaldo did it in a much better way notworthy.gif

Regardless of the outcome, I will always trust on SAF. We rebuild teams over and over again. Remember when RVN left, I was like OMG we will never make it again. Chelsea has just won the EPL two years in a row that time and I thought the trend won't be changing anytime soon. We know what happened next thumbup.gif

I gotta respect SAF. How many people if not managers can actually do their job so well. He has to wake up every morning, thinking of what training regime to conduct on the training field. He has to carry the enthusiasm at all times. Without enthusiasm, he won't be so successful that's for sure. And he has been doing that for the past 20++ years. UTTERLY RESPECT notworthy.gif

How many person can be like him?

I don't care if Rooney leaves, we still have SAF !!!!!!!!
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i think our rebuilding phase just got tougher...as one of the fulcrums of the team now leaving...Giggs scholes VDS gone soon....haih hancur lah our hopes for the elusive 19th for the moment..plus that stupid yank debt...arghhh...gotta embrace for dark times mannn
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what the hell your talking about man.just as fergie said, trust man utd.rooney and a few of our stars leaving cant possibly considered disastrous.remember back on feb 6th 1958 man.remember those flowers that perished.remember those who survived it, lived trough to write the history from it.many of us might not been born yet at that time but it does leave a huge impact to this day.

nothing is comparable then that, and if they can rebuild from that event, a few players leaving should not be a problem.thats how strong our club is.even tho almost every one will say we have no chance of retaining the title, i believe 100% we can reclaim our trophy come may 2011.it wont be easy, heck when was it easy??even during the fledgelings era it was tough as hel and were built for that!
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i was thinking if Wayne Rooney consider leave Man United, think positive actually this really not a bad news for me and all the united fans. Because recently without Rooney we can score as well. The most important is how to tight up our defensive line and 'Kill' the Game after score .. i think it's the time to raise up Javier hernandez into first eleven. Do u agree ??


Added on October 20, 2010, 1:49 amPlease trust United and SAF ... i think he sure will do something

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QUOTE(Sniperwolf1987 @ Oct 20 2010, 01:48 AM)
i was thinking if Wayne Rooney consider leave Man United, think positive actually this really not a bad news for me and all the united fans. Because recently without Rooney we can score as well. The most important is how to tight up our defensive line and 'Kill' the Game after score .. i think it's the time to raise up Javier hernandez into first eleven. Do u agree ??


Added on October 20, 2010, 1:49 amPlease trust United and SAF ... i think he sure will do something
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SAF has about 2 months to change Rooney's mind. He could still sign the new contract. (I still can't believe it, he's a gold digger afterall doh.gif)
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offload rooney in jan i hope. the sooner the better, then SAF can concentrate on footballing matters.
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thank god for the seniors like neville giggsy and scholesy and the younger ones like evans brown and oshea. the greedy outsiders can go to hell
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Stretford-End.com has written an open letter to Wayne Rooney in response to the speculation that he wishes to leave Manchester United. The letter appears below, and has been sent to Rooney via the club.

    Wayne,

    Before you make the next move in this game of chess being played out with the media, think carefully.

    Think about whether you really want to leave Manchester United.

    We’re reading that “behind closed doors” you’re telling your team mates that you want to join City. Money is undoubtedly a factor, but the instigator is supposedly the breakdown in your relationship with Sir Alex Ferguson.

    What has really caused this breakdown? Is it anything Sir Alex himself did, or is it his reaction to your own actions? If so, maybe, turning 25 this week should perhaps knock a bit of sense into you. You’re no longer able to blame your stubbornness on the belligerence of youth. Supporters can’t defend your indiscretions citing immaturity. And it’s because of this inability to defend you anymore that you seemingly are turning not only against the club but against the one person who has gone beyond the call of duty and at times sacrificed his own reputation to defend you.

    You need to take responsibility one way or the other. Come out and say you want to stay, or that you want to leave.

    We, the fans, will not only respect you a lot more, but we will know what’s going on, then. If you want to stay, then great. United supporters have a great tradition of rallying around heroes who have supposedly fallen off of their pedestal. Eric Cantona for Selhurst. Roy Keane and Rio Ferdinand for their contract “negotiation tactics”. You yourself, and Cristiano Ronaldo, in 2006 after the World Cup. Remember the way we took you both back in and supported you. We’re ready to back you.

    If you want to leave, then be honest and say so, but a word of warning. Be honest with yourself. Blaming Sir Alex is putting the blame where it is least deserved. Even after your actions, he stood by you, and was giving you a break to sort out your life. He did that for your own good, for the benefit of your personal life, despite the effect your absence might have on the team. Attributing blame to anyone else is pure cowardice. If you want more money, if you really think being able to make a million pounds in a few weeks is not enough, when most of the world can only dream of that sum in a lifetime, then at least be honest enough to admit it. Don’t put the blame onto someone who has done everything to protect you and has helped you, sometimes in spite of yourself, achieve things in the game you could not have achieved anywhere else. You owe him so much, but the least you owe him is to not make him the villain in the piece. You owe it to him to publically state he has done everything to help you, but you want to leave.

    But before you do that, think further still. Think of how you have done yourself no favours, and who else would go to such lengths to protect you. Who else would show the faith in you to come good. If you need an example, look at Paul Gascoigne. A player with the hopes and dreams of the country on his back, who struggled to cope, and whose career, then life, went to waste. A player who openly regrets turning his back on Sir Alex and United when he had the opportunity. Look at what happened to him without the right guidance and advice, and wonder if you really want to turn your back on all that you currently have? What good is money if your life goes to pot?

    If you get your wish and you leave United, who will be there to help you next time – and, if this is your chosen path, and you’re absolving yourself of responsibility, then there will be a next time – you hit on hard times? There is no-one in any place that you think you will be able to go that will be able to protect you as much as Sir Alex does. And what effect will that have on your family? Once you leave the protection of United, you will be truly putting yourself in the goldfish bowl. Sure, you’ll be flavour of the month again for a short time. But when the initial furore wanes, and you find yourself in trouble again, the knives will be out, but you will have alienated those that matter in the game.

    No-one at United wants you to leave. You’re part of the family. Even when Cristiano was getting the plaudits in 2007/08 and scoring the goals, we still recognised you as the heartbeat of the team. It was fitting that you scored the goal to crown us as World Champions. When you were booed by England fans and when the press panned you after South Africa and Germany, who were the fans backing you? After all your recent problems, who were the supporters still chanting your name for 70 minutes on Saturday, wanting your introduction, despite there clearly being something not right? We were. We stood by you, even though most of us disagreed with a passion with what you did. It went against what we believed as people, but we stood by you. Think about what you are doing to that relationship.

    What happens to players after they leave United? Those who choose not to sign for us when they get the chance? Those who go on to bigger and better things are in a minority. Beckham? No. Ruud? No. Stam? No. Keane? No. Even Cristiano? Not at this stage. He’s learning the grass isn’t always greener, that other supporters aren’t quite as faithful or loyal as United supporters.

    After all this, you still have a chance to put it right. You have two months before January, to put the rumours to rest. You can make a statement publically. You can do your talking on the pitch. Take that chance. Look at Ryan Giggs and Paul Scholes. Look at Sir Bobby Charlton. Your chance to sit alongside them, to smash the goalscoring records, to notch this chapter as a minor hiccup, is in your hands. What does it matter, when you make as much money as you do, for an extra million here or there, when there is a chance of real footballing history? Stay at United and you will undoubtedly become our top scorer of all time. The top scorer of all time for the biggest club in the world? Surely that was one of things running through your mind in the playground?

    If you come out now and state your desire to remain at United for the rest of your career – like you have in the past – then you will retain hero status before the press manage to wrestle it away from you in your silence.

    But make no mistake, Wayne. United will move on with or without you. If you do move, it will be you who lives to regret it.

    Stretford-End.com


http://www.stretford-end.com/blog/2010/10/...oney/#more-3499

a very heartfelt letter from stretford-end.this letter embodies what every fans want.it definitely embodies what i hope and prey for in the coming weeks. sad.gif

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i doubt if Rooney will join the club outside England.
maybe City or Chelsea is more likely.
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seriously...i dont get it, why there is still people supporting rooney....just leave seriously, after what man utd and especially saf had done to helped him, this is the return he gives.... i wont even want him back into the squad no matter how good he is. just leave, i think man utd fans had enough of him, giving him all the support we can, and there must be a line drawn, and i think this is it..he doesnt even deserve to be remembered in the man utd hall of fame..what more to say a legend..so dissapointed.
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http://blogs.ft.com/beyond-brics/2010/10/1...ns-go-with-him/

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QUOTE(joshtlk @ Oct 20 2010, 04:03 AM)
seriously...i dont get it, why there is still people supporting rooney....just leave seriously, after what man utd and especially saf had done to helped him, this is the return he gives.... i wont even want him back into the squad no matter how good he is. just leave, i think man utd fans had enough of him, giving him all the support we can, and there must be a line drawn, and i think this is it..he doesnt even deserve to be remembered in the man utd hall of fame..what more to say a legend..so dissapointed.
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I take that as a tongue in cheek comment...I understand some fans get frustrated over his actions, but we all know Wayne at 24 turning 25 is still not a mature man..He might have been more patient on the field compared to 4-5 years ago but his recent scandal suggested that he still has a long way to go to become a responsible and matured both on and off the pitch...If he does sign a new contract, I will be delighted

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QUOTE(joshtlk @ Oct 20 2010, 04:03 AM)
seriously...i dont get it, why there is still people supporting rooney....just leave seriously, after what man utd and especially saf had done to helped him, this is the return he gives.... i wont even want him back into the squad no matter how good he is. just leave, i think man utd fans had enough of him, giving him all the support we can, and there must be a line drawn, and i think this is it..he doesnt even deserve to be remembered in the man utd hall of fame..what more to say a legend..so dissapointed.
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well if you read the letter from the fans to him, its all about being one big family.if he really wants out, then come out and say it simple as that.be a proper professional and move on thats all.

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I take that as a tongue in cheek comment...I understand some fans get frustrated over his actions, but we all know Wayne at 24 turning 25 is still not a mature man..He might have been more patient on the field compared to 4-5 years ago but his recent scandal suggested that he still has a long way to go to become a responsible and matured both on and off the pitch...If he does sign a new contract, I will be delighted
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/...ter-United.html

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same situation when he was at Everton huh? he sort of said the same thing in Everton..
anyway since his recent form, I didn't really think he's the heart of Man Utd's attack anymore, and I actually like it that way, cuz I wanna see more team play, its the same during CR7, I didn't like the fact he's the main attensyun altho I do feel grateful he contributed to Man Utd's glory back then..
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Ferguson confirms Rooney wants out
i guess it just matter of when Rooney will go.
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all there is now is if saf is too old to build again
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What would be your message to the fans?

The message is that they have to trust Manchester United. If you look at the history of our club over the last 50 years, at the amount of trophies we’ve won, the honour we’ve received, the recognition we’ve got, the respect we’ve got from around the world, the admiration we’ve had from everywhere. We’ve produced more players than any other club in the country for England. It’s a fantastic history and we should always remember that. You have setbacks, we have some blips at times. Last year for instance, we could have created history by winning the league for the fourth time in a row. It had never been done. We lost it by a point. That doesn’t tell us this team is falling apart or anything like that. What it always represents is the next step forward. How do we challenge? That’s Manchester United. You can’t continually win everything every year. But when you have the little blips, we have the structure, we have the management staff to deal with that in order to get us back into line again. We have to deal with Saturday’s disappointment and we have the wherewithal to deal with that.
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It's a sad day. SAF looks so defeated in the press conference it's depressing.
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Its a sad day for man utd fan... i rather man utd sells him to some italian or spanish club for 10m than to see us getting 50m from city or chelsea. it would kill me to see him playing against us in different colours sad.gif
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sigh depressing news indeed
great letter from Stretford-End.com. couldn't have put in any better

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The way Roo handle the exit is worst than Ron... Ron at least honor his stay and present Man Utd a big transfer money when leaving...

We will see where will Roo end up... I hope he will just join Madrid (don't think Barca got the money)... If he end up in ManC / Chelsea, then farewell, traitor.

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The way Roo handle the exit is worst than Ron... Ron at least honor his stay and present Man Utd a big transfer money when leaving...

We will see where will Roo end up... I hope he will just join Madrid (don't think Barca got the money)... If he end up in ManC / Chelsea, then farewell, traitor.
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No player is bigger than the club.. Rooney.. you may leave if you wanted to.. Man Utd! Glory, Glory,Glory!!!

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QUOTE(mhyug @ Oct 20 2010, 01:46 AM)
what the hell your talking about man.just as fergie said, trust man utd.rooney and a few of our stars leaving cant possibly considered disastrous.remember back on feb 6th 1958 man.remember those flowers that perished.remember those who survived it, lived trough to write the history from it.many of us might not been born yet at that time but it does leave a huge impact to this day.

nothing is comparable then that, and if they can rebuild from that event, a few players leaving should not be a problem.thats how strong our club is.even tho almost every one will say we have no chance of retaining the title, i believe 100% we can reclaim our trophy come may 2011.it wont be easy, heck when was it easy??even during the fledgelings era it was tough as hel and were built for that!
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I think most of us are not worried about the fact we gonna lose Rooney. I think we are cool with that. The thing that anger us is the way he treated Fergie and the club. I have never rated Rooney as high as some of you guys did, so I don't really mind if he leaves. In fact, after all this shit, I want him to leave. It's sickening just to see him wearing the red shirt.

He has never really lived up to his potential, bar the 6 months of last season. Whether it was a 1 off wonder or not, I dunno but it looks more like it.

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totally disappointed with rooney, juz defended him last saturday to a bunch or ars & cheksi fans. Damn i tot he was the same class as giggs which would stay till da end, the letter from Stretford-End really says what i feel....its time for rooney to man up make decision & stop hiding in the bushes
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I will wait for Rooney's comment....
At this point, he is heading to Tevez mode....I wish he will handle this better like Ronaldo.
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All the sudden, Berbatov is the better professional than Roo...
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If you guys checked those match that without rooney in the first team, you will find out man united is still able to win at a huge percentage. With or without him doesn't make any diff at all. Of course, if he wants to stay, we fans will gladly support him. If he wants to leave, it's fine for us to let him leave but we will be at the losing side which his cost will be like 5mil only or maybe those team are interested might be sitting ducks waiting rooney's contract end. That time is even worse.

We have some promising striker recently, macheda, hernandez. Maybe bebe and welbeck. Recently the problem lies on defend, not offense. I still believe man united is still able to score like normally what they did previously season. If real madrid wants to swap benzema with rooney, I dont mind though tongue.gif.

Nearly 70% from the fans think if rooney should leave as he is not worth to be so high wages contract due to recent performance. and 60% agree ferguson sells rooney. Thats a huge percentage and everyone is not affected by his news. biggrin.gif

I hope he goes to Real, but I think the highest chance might be man city. Since Real has enough player, dont think mourinho can sacrifice anyone in the first team to place Rooney in. Chelsea, Barcelona, dont think they can afford, but i trust Chelsea that they will pay watever the price to get him. Man city is the most possible place as Adebayor wants to leave, tevez plans to retired. ( I also cant believe this lolz ). Rooney might be the suitable place for him to get first team. But i as Man United fans, really dont wan him to go Man city, First it is rival, second, you know lah tevez the 2nd =____=
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just read that script this morning. SAF himself feel "dumbfounded" about this

pity of him.
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For me, after all the emotions I went through last night, I'm just waiting for Rooney's response. This response will determine if i still have any respect for him.
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any1 know where can i find mu home jersey (last year) with XL size? .. any idea? ..
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If you guys checked those match that without rooney in the first team, you will find out man united is still able to win at a huge percentage. With or without him doesn't make any diff at all. Of course, if he wants to stay, we fans will gladly support him. If he wants to leave, it's fine for us to let him leave but we will be at the losing side which his cost will be like 5mil only or maybe those team are interested might be sitting ducks waiting rooney's contract end. That time is even worse.

We have some promising striker recently, macheda, hernandez. Maybe bebe and welbeck. Recently the problem lies on defend, not offense. I still believe man united is still able to score like normally what they did previously season. If real madrid wants to swap benzema with rooney, I dont mind though tongue.gif.

Nearly 70% from the fans think if rooney should leave as he is not worth to be so high wages contract due to recent performance. and 60% agree ferguson sells rooney. Thats a huge percentage and everyone is not affected by his news. biggrin.gif

I hope he goes to Real, but I think the highest chance might be man city. Since Real has enough player, dont think mourinho can sacrifice anyone in the first team to place Rooney in. Chelsea, Barcelona, dont think they can afford, but i trust Chelsea that they will pay watever the price to get him. Man city is the most possible place as Adebayor wants to leave, tevez plans to retired. ( I also cant believe this lolz ). Rooney might be the suitable place for him to get first team. But i as Man United fans, really dont wan him to go Man city, First it is rival, second, you know lah tevez the 2nd =____=
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Wait, what? Where do you get this number from? Also it's not that simple as "match without Rooney, win with huge percentage, etc". The reason with all of this is with Rooney leaving, the whole team will be impacted, on and off the field. Sure we might win games but the team overall morale and spirit will be affected. I don't know if this is the reason on the recent draw streak but what I am saying is, he is still one of the most important players in the current squad, or should I said "was". Oh well I am waiting for his response as well.

Personal gut feeling tells me that it has something to do with the media pressure. Those sh**s are real b***h. Look at those celebrities like Britney and how it affected them
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For me, after all the emotions I went through last night, I'm just waiting for  Rooney's response. This response will determine if i still have any respect for him.
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Agree.... me too have the same thought... i still have little sympathy for him due to his contribution to man utd all this years.... really hurt most of man utd fans yesterday to see fergie so sad...
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Agree.... me too have the same thought... i still have little sympathy for him due to his contribution to man utd all this years.... really hurt most of man utd fans yesterday to see fergie so sad...
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Wait, what? Where do you get this number from? Also it's not that simple as "match without Rooney, win with huge percentage, etc". The reason with all of this is with Rooney leaving, the whole team will be impacted, on and off the field. Sure we might win games but the team overall morale and spirit will be affected. I don't know if this is the reason on the recent draw streak but what I am saying is, he is still one of the most important players in the current squad, or should I said "was". Oh well I am waiting for his response as well.

Personal gut feeling tells me that it has something to do with the media pressure. Those sh**s are real b***h. Look at those celebrities like Britney and how it affected them
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Don't forget how much it would also affect the fans. Team morale relies on fan support too. If the fans get wind that the 30-40 mil we'd get from the Rooney sale would go to service debts (or rumored to), surely the green and gold movement would be up and running again splitting camps and disrupting the team's concentration.

I just hope that Rooney's change of mind is not affecting the others in the dressing room. There might be those who would start thinking that United is a team in decline and would start calling their agents this summer. A lot of writers are attributing Rooney's attitude to the fact that United has not shown much interest in the transfer market since the Ronaldo sale. Although SAF has repeatedly mentioned that he didn't see any value in it, it might have placed a seed in Rooney's mind that perhaps United doesn't have what it takes to compete with RM, Chelsea, Barcelona, and MC in the transfer market. His refusal to sign on August 14 coincidentally fell just a few days after the Bebe buy.

Tell you guys what, we've sold the best of them before, we've rebuilt and gotten better. If it takes 4-5 years, or longer than that; even after SAF is gone and we're playing in the lower divisions. My kids, my grandchildren and me:

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Don't forget how much it would also affect the fans. Team morale relies on fan support too. If the fans get wind that the 30-40 mil we'd get from the Rooney sale would go to service debts (or rumored to), surely the green and gold movement would be up and running again splitting camps and disrupting the team's concentration.

I just hope that Rooney's change of mind is not affecting the others in the dressing room. There might be those who would start thinking that United is a team in decline and would start calling their agents this summer. A lot of writers are attributing Rooney's attitude to the fact that United has not shown much interest in the transfer market since the Ronaldo sale. Although SAF has repeatedly mentioned that he didn't see any value in it, it might have placed a seed in Rooney's mind that perhaps United doesn't have what it takes to compete with RM, Chelsea, Barcelona, and MC in the transfer market. His refusal to sign on August 14 coincidentally fell just a few days after the Bebe buy.

Tell you guys what, we've sold the best of them before, we've rebuilt and gotten better. If it takes 4-5 years, or longer than that; even after SAF is gone and we're playing in the lower divisions. My kids, my grandchildren and me:

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i think its bcoz uncle glazer hv huge debts....SAF is sad bcoz the club need to sell player bcoz of the debt....just my opinion tho...>.<"
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QUOTE(gizmoduck @ Oct 20 2010, 10:04 AM)
Don't forget how much it would also affect the fans. Team morale relies on fan support too. If the fans get wind that the 30-40 mil we'd get from the Rooney sale would go to service debts (or rumored to), surely the green and gold movement would be up and running again splitting camps and disrupting the team's concentration.

I just hope that Rooney's change of mind is not affecting the others in the dressing room. There might be those who would start thinking that United is a team in decline and would start calling their agents this summer. A lot of writers are attributing Rooney's attitude to the fact that United has not shown much interest in the transfer market since the Ronaldo sale. Although SAF has repeatedly mentioned that he didn't see any value in it, it might have placed a seed in Rooney's mind that perhaps United doesn't have what it takes to compete with RM, Chelsea, Barcelona, and MC in the transfer market. His refusal to sign on August 14 coincidentally fell just a few days after the Bebe buy.

Tell you guys what, we've sold the best of them before, we've rebuilt and gotten better. If it takes 4-5 years, or longer than that; even after SAF is gone and we're playing in the lower divisions. My kids, my grandchildren and me:

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What more can I say. It was very heartbreaking moment from me. Never thought he'll betray us, and SAF. I put my faith on him since the start, if this is how it'll end, it's a pity.

This will be one of the darkest moment for me, being a Man Utd fan. We took sometimes after RvN left, and Becks. But after just one season Ronaldo left us, when we're building the team around Rooney, (we even bought Valencia for this purpose) he did this.

True, United will march on, and on. But this saga, when United is really not on their best form, is just, hurts.

His not the best footballer around, yes. The reason why I support him since his day 1 is because the fire inside him. Instead of the fire, now I can only see.. money.
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i think its bcoz uncle glazer hv huge debts....SAF is sad bcoz the club need to sell player bcoz of the debt....just my opinion tho...>.<"
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Huh?

Are you even following whats happening?

The club was ready to offer him the 150k a week deal ...
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i think SAF early already knew Rooney plan to leave the club..thats why he sign Diouf, chicharito and bebe....impossible for SAF to sign so many strikers since he got macheda, berba, owen and also the TWAT~~~
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QUOTE(befitozi @ Oct 20 2010, 10:13 AM)
Huh?

Are you even following whats happening?

The club was ready to offer him the 150k a week deal ...
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but from the 'news', city is ready to offer 230k...
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QUOTE(befitozi @ Oct 20 2010, 10:13 AM)
Huh?

Are you even following whats happening?

The club was ready to offer him the 150k a week deal ...
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nowadays, many players are loyal to the MONEY ..... not to the club.

if rooney really want to go, so better sell him b4 summer next year (can ask more amount on transfer fees).
No point to keep the player, who keep threaten the club & manager.
& to me, MU performance nothing to do with Glazer debt, but bcoz of players performance & attitude.
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Songs for Wayne Rooney
My agent rang, the other day
He said to me, “I spoke to Man City
They’ll give you, a load of cash
Some Marlie Reds, and a ropey brass.”

So I said, “That sounds fine,
But what about this famous club of mine
The blood-red shirt, the grand old ground
The name that’s sung, the world around

And all the greats that went before
Like Charlton, Edwards, Best and Law
Matt Busby Way, The Stretford end,
And football played the way the gods intend

The pride of playing with Giggs and Scholes
Living legends who still give me goals
The joy of gracing, that perfect park
(The pitch, not Ji, whose breakfast barks)

The trophy room, that glints and gleams
So bright the bitters see it in their dreams
The training ground, where youth excels
The treatment room, where Hargo dwells

A history that stands alone
The greatest manager the game has known
A dressing-room with great morale
And the world’s best fans”

“Erm,” he said, “I’ll call them back
And ask their boss, that f*cking twat
Don’t go nowhere, while I ring Cook –”
“I can’t,” I said, “my ankle’s fooked.”

So I sat, and smoked a fag
And poked some not even attractive slag
Then my phone began to ring
It was Garry Cook, who’s embarrassing

“Son,” he said, “Sign for us
You’ll get a mil a fortnight, plus
You can bang, my old fat ma”
“Right,” I said, “That’s sold me, la.”

If someone asks, in future times
“Who was the daftest sod we ever signed?
Was it Tevez, who looked like a clout
And literally spat his dummy out?

Or Miller, say, or Kleberson?”
Say, “No, it was this lad from Everton
He left the club where he was meant to be
And he went by the name of Wayne Rooney

Wayne Rooney, Wayne Rooney
He went by the name of Wayne Rooney.”
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if he really want to go..go on then...

he can score more whores while our Chicharito score more goals..
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atm...i dun care much...i jz waiting for him to stand up and explain...
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Got media reposts say that rooney is also upset that the club is not buying enough top stars, and that he is fed-up of 'carrying' the team for another year. If it is true, then I got one thing to say:

Kepala hotak kau rooney.

When did he ever 'carry' the team? The closest to it was last season, but I wouldn't say he was the only one who performed well last season.
Not enough big name signings? When was the last time SAF signed a big name at the peak of his game? SAF style is always look for value for money, and hidden talents to mould. So wat you complaining about?

If he reallly sees himself as a man utd player, he shouldn't be even upset about any of this, and concentrate on what he can contribute to the team.
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QUOTE(coochiecoochie @ Oct 20 2010, 10:33 AM)
Got media reposts say that rooney is also upset that the club is not buying enough top stars, and that he is fed-up of 'carrying' the team for another year. If it is true, then I got one thing to say:

Kepala hotak kau rooney.

When did he ever 'carry' the team? The closest to it was last season, but I wouldn't say he was the only one who performed well last season.
Not enough big name signings? When was the last time SAF signed a big name at the peak of his game? SAF style is always look for value for money, and hidden talents to mould. So wat you complaining about?

If he reallly sees himself as a man utd player, he shouldn't be even upset about any of this, and concentrate on what he can contribute to the team.
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u hv been reading too much Red Cafe, arent you ?

the only way i see it now is SAF is forcing him out. To me, that is the way SAF runs his ship in MU. That is why he is so successful. I see a similar pattern to how RVN was force out.

To me, Rooney is a great player for us. His energy and character really epitomized the team spirit. We are certainly lacking in this department this season. Our play are mundane and often lack the determination.
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not just redcafe, there are quite a few stories from media sites, even a couple of respected football journos, about how there's some talk about rooney being unhappy with the lack of big name signings.
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all we can do is wait for him to speak.

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QUOTE(71ers @ Oct 20 2010, 10:42 AM)
u hv been reading too much Red Cafe, arent you ?

the only way i see it now is SAF is forcing him out. To me, that is the way SAF runs his ship in MU. That is why he is so successful.  I see a similar pattern to how RVN was force out.

To me, Rooney is a great player for us.  His energy and character really epitomized the team spirit.  We are certainly lacking in this department this season.  Our play are mundane and often lack the determination.
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explain to me why u say SAF is the one thats forcing him out? after helping him so much....
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now d pressure is on rooney..i hope he will sign a new contract later. smile.gif .or he will not.. sad.gif

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the star paper says that Rooney wanted to leave because United didnt offer the contract that he worth of... =='' 150k per week is nt enuf for him..that twat thinks he worth more...celaka
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Scoring 25 goals in a season and he thought he is world class player... is he insane... Darren Bent score that many goals before but does that make him world class...

Roo, you are still far from calling yourself World Class and you do not deserve big money contract.
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QUOTE(angel-face @ Oct 20 2010, 10:46 AM)
explain to me why u say  SAF is the one thats forcing him out? after helping him so much....
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SAF is a shrewd man .. he would rather rid someone who is causing unbalance to his team. He did the same to RVN after being such a father figure to him when RVN was out injured before signing on for MU.
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QUOTE(angel-face @ Oct 20 2010, 10:52 AM)
the star paper says that Rooney wanted to leave because United didnt offer the contract that he worth of... =='' 150k per week is nt enuf for him..that twat thinks he worth more...celaka
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tax bracket tinggi kat UK brows.gif
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I guess we just have to wait for the man to stand up and speaks for himself regarding the whole speculations and stories / non-stories, depends on

how you see them. Too many theories, but mainly about MONEY. I mean if CR used to sulk because he was held back / postponed the switch to Real,

but at least he still showed what a class player he is on the pitch (THAT GOAL vs. Porto in CL, amazing!)
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Nice article
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Added on October 20, 2010, 10:59 am
QUOTE(71ers @ Oct 20 2010, 10:57 AM)
SAF is a shrewd man .. he would rather rid someone who is causing unbalance to his team.  He did the same to RVN after being such a father figure to him when RVN was out injured before signing on for MU.
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But ferguson has never don publicly to asked for a player to stay when they want to out...

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QUOTE(leongtat @ Oct 20 2010, 10:58 AM)
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But ferguson has never don publicly to asked for a player to stay when they want to out...
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ha. just now i remembered.

he doesnt do that while CR is leaving. pardon me if i miss it.

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QUOTE(zwanvedder @ Oct 20 2010, 10:57 AM)
tax bracket tinggi kat UK brows.gif
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kalau mcm ni...semua org pun mau high salary...p* dia
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u know what hurt me more?
see the "Father" himself in the interview with MUTV.
i almost can feel the same way he feeling at the moment. there's tears in his eyes but it doesn't drop. feck me it really hurt me to seeing him in such way.
Don't wanna think bout Rooney now. The way this is happening I can say he treated us ( club, manager, FANS) like a shit.
its like u have a cut your arm. it will bleed. but it will heal sooner or later. but one thing for sure is there will be a SCAR.
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QUOTE(hocksoo @ Oct 20 2010, 10:55 AM)
Scoring 25 goals in a season and he thought he is world class player... is he insane... Darren Bent score that many goals before but does that make him world class...

Roo, you are still far from calling yourself World Class and you do not deserve big money contract.
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yes agree ...

just check his goal scoring record against the big 3, is not that impressive compare Drogba and Torres ...

0 goal in world cup already prove it.
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I panicked when thinking of MUFC without Wayne Rooney, but just look back, we won some with him, we won more without him.

Good bye wayne wayne, all the best for your future.

MUFC forever.
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QUOTE(gizmoduck @ Oct 20 2010, 10:04 AM)
Don't forget how much it would also affect the fans. Team morale relies on fan support too. If the fans get wind that the 30-40 mil we'd get from the Rooney sale would go to service debts (or rumored to), surely the green and gold movement would be up and running again splitting camps and disrupting the team's concentration.

I just hope that Rooney's change of mind is not affecting the others in the dressing room. There might be those who would start thinking that United is a team in decline and would start calling their agents this summer. A lot of writers are attributing Rooney's attitude to the fact that United has not shown much interest in the transfer market since the Ronaldo sale. Although SAF has repeatedly mentioned that he didn't see any value in it, it might have placed a seed in Rooney's mind that perhaps United doesn't have what it takes to compete with RM, Chelsea, Barcelona, and MC in the transfer market. His refusal to sign on August 14 coincidentally fell just a few days after the Bebe buy.

Tell you guys what, we've sold the best of them before, we've rebuilt and gotten better. If it takes 4-5 years, or longer than that; even after SAF is gone and we're playing in the lower divisions. My kids, my grandchildren and me:

UNITED FOR LIFE
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Never ever ever ever eveeeeerr in my life I thought I would agree to your post due to our past 'encounters'. This is a very good post.

QUOTE(coochiecoochie @ Oct 20 2010, 10:33 AM)
Got media reposts say that rooney is also upset that the club is not buying enough top stars, and that he is fed-up of 'carrying' the team for another year. If it is true, then I got one thing to say:

Kepala hotak kau rooney.

When did he ever 'carry' the team? The closest to it was last season, but I wouldn't say he was the only one who performed well last season.
Not enough big name signings? When was the last time SAF signed a big name at the peak of his game? SAF style is always look for value for money, and hidden talents to mould. So wat you complaining about?

If he reallly sees himself as a man utd player, he shouldn't be even upset about any of this, and concentrate on what he can contribute to the team.
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We could say the same of Valencia. Without Valencia, Rooney would never ever go on scoring like he wanted to.

QUOTE(71ers @ Oct 20 2010, 10:42 AM)
u hv been reading too much Red Cafe, arent you ?

the only way i see it now is SAF is forcing him out. To me, that is the way SAF runs his ship in MU. That is why he is so successful.  I see a similar pattern to how RVN was force out.

To me, Rooney is a great player for us.  His energy and character really epitomized the team spirit.  We are certainly lacking in this department this season.  Our play are mundane and often lack the determination.
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My goodness, I wondered how you concluded to that. RVN was causing probs with CR. And SAF never came to public to declare that RVN wanted to go. Can't you see that? This is the first time that SAF went public about his player wanted to go. Be it Beckham. RVN, Keano or others, never did once SAF went to public and discussed about it.

Seeing the old man talked about the situation, I'm baffled as well. What has the team or in particularly, SAF did to brush/push him away?

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But ferguson has never don publicly to asked for a player to stay when they want to out...
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The scramble for Wayne Rooney's signature has already begun with Tottenham boss Harry Redknapp revealing he would be interested in the Manchester United striker.

Speculation over Rooney's future is set to rumble on for the foreseeable future after Sir Alex Ferguson admitted that the apex of his attack wants to leave Old Trafford.

The 24-year-old's present contract expires in 18 months time and Redknapp, who is known for his ability to get the best out of the transfer market, would welcome him to White Hart Lane.

And he reckons, should the former Everton trainee allow his contract run down, he could be the ultimate signing.

Chairman

"I'm going to speak to my chairman and see if we can get Rooney to Tottenham," Redknapp joked.

"But I doubt very much that will happen.

"I haven't seen Alex's interview but I'm sure that it's honest and its open and he's explained it openly then that's got to be good.

"I think these things need to be open sometimes. Everybody wonders why this has happened, why that has happened.

"The game belongs to the people and the people should know what happens more in football.

"Too many people feel that the most important people of all, the people who pay the wages, are kept in the dark.

"Come out and tell it as it is."

With Spurs growing in stature after finishing fourth and qualifying for the Champions League, Redknapp admits they could be in the running.

"It's not impossible," added Redknapp. "If he's going to stay in England, who knows?

"You've got to be interested when the very, very best players become available but it would be a big ask.

"I'm sure there'll be some big fish out there wanting to take Rooney, that's for sure.

"He's a fantastic player - he's having a bad spell, he's had bad two or three months - but he's a great player."

Whoever signs the England marksman will no doubt do so at a huge expense and in the process make Rooney considerably wealthier.

It is, as Redknapp accepts, a growing indication of the power of the players in the modern, that such an asset could possible leave with his club not receiving a penny.

Free

"At the end of the day, Wayne Rooney will be a free agent," he continued.

"What an amazing situation to be in: somebody who's worth £50-60 million will be a free agent.

"He's going to want a decent signing on fee; he's not going to be cheap, is he?

"Players have all the power now. If he doesn't sign a contract, he's a free agent. What a position to be in.

"He's in a position where, if somebody gives him £30 million, you're getting a very cheap player - if they give it to him personally. That's without his wages.

"He's got 18 months to get through before he's going to free, which is going to be difficult.

"But if that's the road he wants to go down, he can go down that road. Man United can do nothing about it.

"All they can do is keep trying to make him a better offer to sign a contract, I suppose. There's no other way out for a club.

"One thing's for sure, he won't find a better club than Manchester United to play for. He's got a great manager there. I don't know what's gone on there but it's a shame if it ends that way."


http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_6454350,00.html

Jose wants Rooney at Real

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Jose Mourinho admits he would love to bring Wayne Rooney to Real Madrid, but expects the unsettled forward to stay at Manchester United.

Rooney looks set to leave United after Sir Alex Ferguson confirmed that the England international wants to quit Old Trafford after refusing to sign a new deal at the club.

The news has sent shockwaves across European football and fuelled speculation where Rooney might end up going.

Real are thought to be one of the frontrunners for Rooney's signature if he does end up quitting Old Trafford.

Former Chelsea boss Mourinho admits every top club will be chasing Rooney, but he still fully expects the 24-year-old to remain at Old Trafford.

"My thoughts are he will stay," Mourinho told Sky Sports.

Belongs

"He probably wants to leave for some reasons, but I believe he belongs to Man Utd, he belongs to Man Utd fans, he belongs to Old Trafford.

"I believe he is going to stay

"But if at the end of day Man Utd decides that he is to leave, give me a call."

Asked if he would be interesting in taking Rooney to the Spanish capital, a laughing Mourinho said: "Everybody would be interested, but again I don't think so.

"I think and I wish because I like him, I like Sir Alex, I like Man Utd I believe the best thing for him is to stay there for life.

Asked if he was excited at the prospect of teaming Rooney up with Cristiano Ronaldo again, Mourinho remarked: "Yes, but he will stay at Old Trafford for sure."


http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_6454738,00.html

Sir Alex backs Van der Sar

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Sir Alex Ferguson has backed Edwin Van der Sar to bounce back from his 'uncanny' error against West Brom.

The Manchester United goalkeeper was guilty of a howler in last weekend's Premier League fixture as the Red Devils surrendered a two-goal lead for the third time this season to allow the Baggies to claim a point at Old Trafford.

The uncertainly surrounding the future of Wayne Rooney will do little to help confidence on the pitch as United host Bursaspor on Wednesday.

But Ferguson has backed the veteran shot-stopper to respond positively to his mistake in their midweek UEFA Champions League clash.

Horrendous

"The mistake was uncanny," said the United boss.

"Here is a player with 130 caps for Holland and the most fantastic career you could imagine and he makes a mistake like that.

"You cannot even criticise him because he doesn't deserve that.

"He is allowed to make one horrendous mistake in his life. It was at a time when we didn't need it, of course, but it happens.

"You just have to wash it away."


http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_6454166,00.html

O'Shea wants swift solution

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John O'Shea has acknowledged that Manchester United must swiftly address their defensive frailties.

The Red Devils have been uncharacteristically shaky in defence this season, with the club conceding 10 goals in eight league matches.

Indeed, at the weekend United again let slip a two-goal advantage against West Brom as they slumped to a draw at Old Trafford.

"It is hard to explain why we are losing the goals we have," said O'Shea.

"You see the quality and the record we have had in the past but it is something we have to address quickly. With the players we have we will do that.

"Nine times out of 10 if we keep a clean sheet we are going to win the game because of the attacking quality we have."


http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_6454210,00.html
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If roon thinks he is world class, I think he needs to be reminded about a certain number 7 just a couple of seasons ago. Who broke goal scoring records in one season. From mid field.

There is a place for Wayne Rooney. But there will not be a place for an ungrateful son. Players will come and they will go. Some stay a life time, some stay for a while. But there is still one man that carried us through all the times. That has rebuild squads after squads, changed players after players.

that man is, SIR ALEX FERGUSON. He is, the emblem of Manchester United Football Club
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Wow suddenly a lot of people come emo here.

Chill out guys.

No player is bigger than United. Full stop.
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This is going to really kill my mood for the entire day. Just wish the're some cock and bull tranfer story of Torres or some big name to provide a silver lining to seeing Rooney go. Even if they weren't true. I thought Rooney was going to be the next Giggsy, or Scholes, playing off the next big English 18 year old striker in the hole when he is 34 years old. Still wearing the number 10 of course.

Honestly how much money do you really need? F**king agents man..
Just youtubed Rooney's debut and had a massive wet cry (well I would've if I were at home but at work now).
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Jose Mourinho admits he would love to bring Wayne Rooney to Real Madrid, but expects the unsettled forward to stay at Manchester United.

Rooney looks set to leave United after Sir Alex Ferguson confirmed that the England international wants to quit Old Trafford after refusing to sign a new deal at the club.

The news has sent shockwaves across European football and fuelled speculation where Rooney might end up going.

Real are thought to be one of the frontrunners for Rooney's signature if he does end up quitting Old Trafford.

Former Chelsea boss Mourinho admits every top club will be chasing Rooney, but he still fully expects the 24-year-old to remain at Old Trafford.

"My thoughts are he will stay," Mourinho told Sky Sports.

Belongs

"He probably wants to leave for some reasons, but I believe he belongs to Man Utd, he belongs to Man Utd fans, he belongs to Old Trafford.

"I believe he is going to stay

"But if at the end of day Man Utd decides that he is to leave, give me a call."

Asked if he would be interesting in taking Rooney to the Spanish capital, a laughing Mourinho said: "Everybody would be interested, but again I don't think so.

"I think and I wish because I like him, I like Sir Alex, I like Man Utd I believe the best thing for him is to stay there for life.

Asked if he was excited at the prospect of teaming Rooney up with Cristiano Ronaldo again, Mourinho remarked: "Yes, but he will stay at Old Trafford for sure."


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QUOTE(Ken @ Oct 20 2010, 11:19 AM)
yes agree ...

just check his goal scoring record against the big 3, is not that impressive compare Drogba and Torres ...

0 goal in world cup already prove it.
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is it really about the money or is there something else? perhaps the lad just wants to get away from the mess of his own life at the moment?
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QUOTE(nazq @ Oct 20 2010, 11:34 AM)
Wow suddenly a lot of people come emo here.

Chill out guys.

No player is bigger than United. Full stop.
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Can't help it bro... this is proper breakdown for me... Sorry guys can't help but wallow in self pity right now. Indulge me please.. uwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa cry.gif
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Can't help it bro... this is proper breakdown for me... Sorry guys can't help but wallow in self pity right now. Indulge me please.. uwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa  cry.gif
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its more touched when see SAF at press conference talking about Roo
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Come one guyz.... Give rooney a break... He is still our player for this moment... we should just remain silent and not critic him like no other days... how come you all can say he is rubbish this and etc after his last season performance.... Please reserve ur comment until Rooney did really leave..
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QUOTE(leongtat @ Oct 20 2010, 11:44 AM)
Come one guyz.... Give rooney a break... He is still our player for this moment... we should just remain silent and not critic him like no other days... how come you all can say he is rubbish this and etc after his last season performance.... Please reserve ur comment until Rooney did really leave..
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Last season's performance was not just down to him. Without Valencia putting in the crosses, without Vidic and Rio being solid at the back etc... he would not have made as great an impact as he did.

In any case, I'm not pissing on Rooney's contribution last season, which I would always thank him for. What I cannot take is his attitude towards the club, his self-absorbed non-contribution this season, and his lack of professionalism (compare this with Giggsy, Scholes, and even Ronaldo in his last year at United).

No one is indispensable. Rooney will be gone one day (in footballing terms), but Manchester United will carry on, and regardless whether they're in the Premiership or in the Nationwide Conference, this fan is UNITED FOR LIFE.
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QUOTE(verbatim @ Oct 20 2010, 11:42 AM)
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same here..he should stand out like a man and clarify things unsure.gif
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QUOTE(Mayomythical @ Oct 20 2010, 11:51 AM)
Last season's performance was not just down to him. Without Valencia putting in the crosses, without Vidic and Rio being solid at the back etc... he would not have made as great an impact as he did.

In any case, I'm not pissing on Rooney's contribution last season, which I would always thank him for. What I cannot take is his attitude towards the club, his self-absorbed non-contribution this season, and his lack of professionalism (compare this with Giggsy, Scholes, and even Ronaldo in his last year at United).

No one is indispensable. Rooney will be gone one day (in footballing terms), but Manchester United will carry on, and regardless whether they're in the Premiership or in the Nationwide Conference, this fan is UNITED FOR LIFE.
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Without team work, Rooney would not have scored all the goals.
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Things that have been done cannot be undone. I only hope rooney will try to respect the club and fans in how he chooses to continue from here on.

It will be very interesting to see what his reply is to SAF's press conference.
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i think after seeing the fans and managers reaction, WR might just change his mind......
just as a Gerrard did years ago........
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if he ever leaves MU, i hope we can get good money of it.. u know, when we think about the other way round, i mean from Rooney's perspective, maybe it's not all about money.. maybe Rooney thinks United is not growing in a way great club should be. MU today is different compared to last time, where top players will never say never to MU. MU has lost it's spending power. it's popularity is huge to the fans, but not to the footballers..

and this is the reason we can only attract unproven young talent like hernandez, obertan and bebe.

so if Rooney ever leave, yes MU lose one top player, but maybe it can make SAF and Glazer to realize, Manchester United main business is football.
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QUOTE(leongtat @ Oct 20 2010, 11:44 AM)
Come one guyz.... Give rooney a break... He is still our player for this moment... we should just remain silent and not critic him like no other days... how come you all can say he is rubbish this and etc after his last season performance.... Please reserve ur comment until Rooney did really leave..
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hope things work out fine
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QUOTE(fhunkyfhinky @ Oct 20 2010, 11:39 AM)
RVN -> 5 seasons , 150 goals
WR -> 7 seasons, 132 goals

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Rooney brings more to the team than just goals..ppl tend to forget how much he has contributed, not just last season but for the past 4/5 seasons to the team, and just dismiss his importance based on his poor form in only 7 games this season.. I have no qualms that we will move on without him, but he is one of those quality players that cannot be replaced..
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i would like to share this.

suddenly found this while "merayau" at others thread.

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Urghhhhhh cant stand those pictures...bloody hell
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I juz scare Wayne going to transform tevez evil mode when he join man city.
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On the other hand, a superlative performance against Burzaspor tonite will be a perfect response to the Rooney saga and fitting gift to SAF who appeared very sad..
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QUOTE(vincent_lms_3366 @ Oct 20 2010, 11:54 AM)
+1

Without team work, Rooney would not have scored all the goals.
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Just like what CR achieved when he became the league's top scorer whereby our team play back then was surrounded around him. Well, who wouldn't judging by that kind of form he had at that time?

QUOTE(irenic @ Oct 20 2010, 11:59 AM)
if he ever leaves MU, i hope we can get good money of it
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This will be difficult.

1. He made it clear he wants to leave so buyers will able to bargain the price with us.
2. His contract run till summer 2012 which means by this coming summer he will be in the final year of the contract and he could then leave as free agent under the Bosman rulling.
3. Worst case? He uses the Webster rulling to buy out his remaining contract for as little as 5mil/the full amount of wages in the remained part of the contract.

QUOTE(SGSuser @ Oct 20 2010, 12:08 PM)
Rooney brings more to the team than just goals..ppl tend to forget how much he has contributed, not just last season but for the past 4/5 seasons to the team, and just dismiss his importance based on his poor form in only 7 games this season.. I have no qualms that we will move on without him, but he is one of those quality players that cannot be replaced..
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Like CR, he will be hard to be replaced but I don't think its cannot be replaced. People said the same thing when RVN left and people starting questioning where the goals will come from but we got through those stages.

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QUOTE(lfcreds91 @ Oct 20 2010, 11:58 AM)
i think after seeing the fans and managers reaction, WR might just change his mind......
just as a Gerrard did years ago........
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Rooney is not born and breed Mancunian unlike Gerrard..Different situation here..
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I juz scare Wayne going to transform tevez evil mode when he join man city.
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i feel that also. what a difficult moment for us.
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MONEY must be the main motivation although not entirely for Rooney refusal to sign a contract extension . if i recall correctly , david gill started negotiation with rooney's agent last january/feb and at that time till march , it coincide with rooney playing exceptionally well and probably then , both agent and player thought they could hold the club ransom by asking a much higher fee than offered . the club further push rooney to sign the contract extension before the world cup begins but was hold back by the player himself until after the world cup. i bet by this time the relationship between rooney ,d. gill and SAF must have been strained as time is running short and as such will put the club in a highly disadvantage position in any negotiation .

some agent from citeh must have know the situation and approach rooney for possible transfer . if yaya toure could fetch close to 185,000 GBP a week at man city , something is not right in football . or that rooney and his agent must have felt confident , besides City there will be other club interested in him or rooney thought with less than 20 months contract period left , he is gaining upperhand

after the World Cup , negotiation for contract extension must be so bad and even on personal level , his relationship especially with SAF must be irreconcilable, that it must have affected Rooney's performance on the pitch . SAF did play him nonetheless but he had been piss poor both for country and club and with time running out with 18 months left and with his poor form and shit character we can guess how much we can get out of him in the transfer market especially in Jan and rooney is cup-tied as well


but what made man utd , club and fans alike really pissed off with rooney is that the man himself pledged he's a lifelong united player and he must have kissed the badge so many times and needless to say ,everyone associated with manchester united believed him.
many fans believed too , that all his years at united , SAF have given him guidance , shielded and protected him especially after the 2006 world cup red card incident where rooney is expected to get sticks and middle finger wherever he play in England , and in the fan eyes , it is an act of betrayal or in ancient times , they call it treason .

SAF must be so pissed off with him that he did the unthinkable in invoking the club tradition and history while doing explaining in his statement last night. as of now , rooney is painted as a villain with no sense of gratitude to whoever have help , groom or protected him .

i don't think the reason(s) for rooney refusal to sign extension is entirely due to his interpretation of the club lacking ambition, afterall before Valencia had that awful injury , the team is deemed to be at least reliable in all department except in midfields , where we lack a aggressive muscleman which again isn't a main point as we have won a few good trophies even without such a player

all said , unless rooney comes out with some very good explanation to cool down the current hatred on him or else the word "betrayal " will forever stays to haunt him at least in the eyes of millions of man utd fans

my 0.02 sen

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QUOTE(alien2003 @ Oct 20 2010, 12:16 PM)
Like CR, he will be hard to be replaced but I don't think its cannot be replaced. People said the same thing when RVN left and people starting questioning where the goals will come from but we got through those stages.
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Not mainly the goals, but the spark, energy, work rate and down to earth attitude(until now?) he brings to the team..cant thk of any other player with those qualities
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If Rooney goes to Real , hope AF can make a good deal to swap with Kaka+Benzema and a sum of money lah.

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Rooney is not born and breed Mancunian unlike Gerrard..Different situation here..
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damn, they gotta start banning those celebrations............
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QUOTE(alien2003 @ Oct 20 2010, 12:16 PM)
Like CR, he will be hard to be replaced but I don't think its cannot be replaced. People said the same thing when RVN left and people starting questioning where the goals will come from but we got through those stages.
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as far as i remember..

we were struggling to find a rhythm in our gameplay in the 1st season after beckham left.

we were struggling to get goals after RVN left..

we were struggling to get Ronaldo's replacement until Rooney hits top form at the middle of last season..


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QUOTE(SGSuser @ Oct 20 2010, 12:08 PM)
Rooney brings more to the team than just goals..ppl tend to forget how much he has contributed, not just last season but for the past 4/5 seasons to the team, and just dismiss his importance based on his poor form in only 7 games this season.. I have no qualms that we will move on without him, but he is one of those quality players that cannot be replaced..
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+1

Not to say we wouldn't make it without him, but he contributed more than what most people think. Goal is one thing but the overall impact is there.
Also I find it funny a lot of fans who treat him like God last season suddenly turn its back against him, and saying he is not really that good compare to other forwards? Seriously, what?

No matter what other people says, I still think Tevez was great when he played for us, same with Rooney. Sure Tevez did "betray" us but give credit where it's due
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What if Rooney suddenly tell press 'Wakenabeb' Kah kah kah
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Let's show some dignity, guys.

1) Rooney hasn't spoken. This issue is far from over.
2) Nobody said Rooney was shit when he scored 30+ goals last season. Why is he suddenly shit now?
3) We're all hurt. We're angry and we want to lash out. That's not the Man Utd way. We're not RAWK. We're Man Utd. Let's show some class. flex.gif


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this has been pasted, but i agree with most of the things written in this article.

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I thought Rooney signed a contract last year that makes him the current highest paid United player. Apparently not, but if he really wants to leave, he can go ahead and leave. No use keeping him under our belt if he is going to piss all of us off in front of the media. I'll be more than glad to fold my arms and see how other managers withstand his tempers. I just never stop wondering why the hell is Rooney not in the position to understand that all Ferguson did was to protect him from the media following his scandals.

I say Chicharito-Berbatov / Owen-Berbatov / Macheda-Berbatov is good enough to replace him. Okay maybe not Macheda, but the rest, undoubtedly.
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QUOTE(irenic @ Oct 20 2010, 12:46 PM)
as far as i remember.. 

we were struggling to find a rhythm in our gameplay in the 1st season after  beckham left.

we were struggling to get goals after RVN left..

we were struggling to get Ronaldo's replacement until Rooney hits top form at the middle of last season..
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Well, we did but my point is that in the end we managed to go through and survived. So it can happen again. Like we always said, players come and go so there might be a blip in the coming few months but it will not be the end of the world.
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QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ Oct 20 2010, 12:52 PM)
Let's show some dignity, guys.

1) Rooney hasn't spoken. This issue is far from over.
2) Nobody said Rooney was shit when he scored 30+ goals last season. Why is he suddenly shit now?
3) We're all hurt. We're angry and we want to lash out. That's not the Man Utd way. We're not RAWK. We're Man Utd. Let's show some class. flex.gif
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Agree with you. Rooney has yet to comment abt Sir Alex comment. United will always be United with or without Rooney.
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QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ Oct 20 2010, 01:52 PM)
Let's show some dignity, guys.

1) Rooney hasn't spoken. This issue is far from over.
2) Nobody said Rooney was shit when he scored 30+ goals last season. Why is he suddenly shit now?
3) We're all hurt. We're angry and we want to lash out. That's not the Man Utd way. We're not RAWK. We're Man Utd. Let's show some class. flex.gif
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1) it might look like a fake tabloid when Rooney havent make official statements yet, but why is he not retaliating with the media? The rumour have been quite long alrdy
2) shit not as in football-ing skills but rather him himself. In fact, i think he might be climbing over Ferguson's head right now. When Nani blasted in front of the media, he wasnt even on the bench for a few games. Rooney get to feature on the bench after the rumours. It seems like he realise Ferguson have not much time ahead of him to rebuild the team, and hoping to keep Rooney.
3) The class showed by RAWK kicking their manager and owners out of their club rclxms.gif Protest everyday, even in front of the court. shocking.gif
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QUOTE(irenic @ Oct 20 2010, 12:46 PM)
as far as i remember.. 

we were struggling to find a rhythm in our gameplay in the 1st season after  beckham left.

we were struggling to get goals after RVN left..

we were struggling to get Ronaldo's replacement until Rooney hits top form at the middle of last season..
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Players come n go... that's jst a process...
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QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ Oct 20 2010, 12:52 PM)
Let's show some dignity, guys.

1) Rooney hasn't spoken. This issue is far from over.
2) Nobody said Rooney was shit when he scored 30+ goals last season. Why is he suddenly shit now?
3) We're all hurt. We're angry and we want to lash out. That's not the Man Utd way. We're not RAWK. We're Man Utd. Let's show some class. flex.gif
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by his statement , SAF have put his reputation on the blade . don't think he's that foolish .

he's shit by act of betrayal and not his skills or goals scored on the pitch . whether it's at The RAWK or any forums , the response will be the same , besiege by anger and rage

as for dignity -ask rooney.
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The whole world will be waiting Rooney to come out with his statement or something but I don't think it will happen anytime soon. The way we ruled him out with yet another ankle injury looks to be another move to drag him away from the spotlight.
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whatever the outcome, SAF will come out with a solution, no doubt about that:)

the whole world is looking at Wayne to make his statement, alone, no one, not the gaffer, not the club will stand behind him now
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QUOTE(alien2003 @ Oct 20 2010, 12:57 PM)
Well, we did but my point is that in the end we managed to go through and survived. So it can happen again. Like we always said, players come and go so there might be a blip in the coming few months but it will not be the end of the world.
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Precisely. There will always be a transition period. We might suffer during that time, but inevitably, United will always move on.

QUOTE(IcyDarling @ Oct 20 2010, 12:58 PM)
1) it might look like a fake tabloid when Rooney havent make official statements yet, but why is he not retaliating with the media? The rumour have been quite long alrdy
2) shit not as in football-ing skills but rather him himself. In fact, i think he might be climbing over Ferguson's head right now. When Nani blasted in front of the media, he wasnt even on the bench for a few games. Rooney get to feature on the bench after the rumours. It seems like he realise Ferguson have not much time ahead of him to rebuild the team, and hoping to keep Rooney.
3) The class showed by RAWK kicking their manager and owners out of their club  rclxms.gif  Protest everyday, even in front of the court.  shocking.gif
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1) I think you misunderstood what I said. I meant, see Rooney's response. Is it the CR style or the Tevez style or is he staying? If it's the Tevez style, then I have no respect left for him.
2) There were many people dismissing him as a footballer before you posted. I do not feel that is right. Credit where it is due. He has been an excellent footballer. As a human being however, depends on (1).
2) I'm not sure what you meant. I said we are not RAWK. We are Man Utd. Man Utd fans should show more class. wink.gif
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YAYA TOURE earning 220k a week....... really speechless...
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YAYA TOURE earning 220k a week....... really speechless...
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but i cant see him perform like 220k ...

the most impressive player so far for city still is tevez
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later the citeh's boss will pening kepala lor,cos semua mau naik gaji.........
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these are all unrealistic, and unsustainable wages and player prices lar.

Only because got someone pumping in the money. But you can't keep pumping in money forever, all these expenses must be sustainable in light of potential revenue.

SAF is right not to get caught in this stupid inflated prices game. Sooner or later some real damage is going to be done to the football world when the money dries up.
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later the citeh's boss will pening kepala lor,cos semua mau naik gaji.........
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If i did not read wrongly,

Rooney is out of tonight's clash due to ankle injury during training and it was from Scholes.

Some people from Redcafe thinks Scholes did that for obvious reasons.

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QUOTE(Ken @ Oct 20 2010, 01:54 PM)
but i cant see him perform like 220k ...

the most impressive player so far for city still is tevez
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haha i do wonder if it was scholes, or one of the other loyal players like fletcher.

'Oops! Sorry pal, didn't mean to mash my studs straight on into your ankle...'


Added on October 20, 2010, 2:28 pmoops didn't read properly, yes it was from scholes.

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QUOTE(deitylord @ Oct 20 2010, 02:07 PM)
If i did not read wrongly,

Rooney is out of tonight's clash due to ankle injury during training and it was from Scholes.

Some people from Redcafe thinks Scholes did that for obvious reasons.

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QUOTE(alien2003 @ Oct 20 2010, 02:34 PM)
Scholes will probably just say "Hey, you all know I always mis-timed my tackle! There is no intention on it!"  laugh.gif
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Plus, he did that during light warming-up session! Imagine the horror!

Scholesy: Eh i thought it was tackling session already?

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For me, after all the emotions I went through last night, I'm just waiting for  Rooney's response. This response will determine if i still have any respect for him.
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the best thing to do now for all of us.

QUOTE(leongtat @ Oct 20 2010, 11:44 AM)
Come one guyz.... Give rooney a break... He is still our player for this moment... we should just remain silent and not critic him like no other days... how come you all can say he is rubbish this and etc after his last season performance.... Please reserve ur comment until Rooney did really leave..
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i think after seeing the fans and managers reaction, WR might just change his mind......
just as a Gerrard did years ago........
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QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ Oct 20 2010, 12:52 PM)
Let's show some dignity, guys.

1) Rooney hasn't spoken. This issue is far from over.
2) Nobody said Rooney was shit when he scored 30+ goals last season. Why is he suddenly shit now?
3) We're all hurt. We're angry and we want to lash out. That's not the Man Utd way. We're not RAWK. We're Man Utd. Let's show some class. flex.gif
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exacatly.

in fact all the post quoted here has the same message.lets not start bringing out our frustration, anger and all those bad things.instead lets wait for him to say some thing first.we heard what the club has to say and we will get a chance to hear what he has to say.

if its any comforting take a look at the open letter from the uk fans sent him.he is still our hero, and our fans are well known to never give up on our united family.even if the whole worlds see them as culprits in our embrace we protect and cheer them on.

we have every right to be frustrated but lets reserve some dignity just as newbie posted.we still have a wonderful group of players and a club to cheer on tonight in an import match.lets shift our focus and give full support to the lads whom ill take on to the pitch tonight.
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maybe bcoz buying him from big club that need to convinced player with high salary.
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lol ... then yaya not tha player that need to be convinced ... he not worth 220k per week ...

he is a rejected stock in barca due to the young talent busquest wrestle his place in midfield ...
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bussaspor is going to be a tough nut to crack.lets hope they dont execute a perfect job like rangers did.

old trafford will be buzzing tonight both for the obvious reason and for the match.expect plenty of fireworks going on.
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i hope the players will support SAF by turning in a command performance that will leave the bursaspor players walking kangkang for a week.
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with rooney almost out from every match now till he sold, hope owen can stay fit ... and hernandez can improve ...
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what i heard and read is Rooney does all this as a revenge to SAF.. in the names of Jaap Stam, Beckham, and Nistelrooy.












Just kidding. laugh.gif
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i hope they can compensate the fans with a much better performance today.

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QUOTE(mhyug @ Oct 20 2010, 02:52 PM)
bussaspor is going to be a tough nut to crack.lets hope they dont execute a perfect job like rangers did.

old trafford will be buzzing tonight both for the obvious reason and for the match.expect plenty of fireworks going on.
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Just realise tomorrow morning's game will be SAF's 2000th match of his entire coaching career, let's hope the team win the game for him

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Just realise tomorrow morning's game will be SAF's 2000th match of his entire coaching career, let's hope the team win the game for him
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Yeah. The club, players and fans must now rally behind the manager. Let's hope for a response in tomorrow morning's game.
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my bad, silap tgk...its 2.40

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erm where u guys get the news tat it's scholes who tackled him?
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whatever time the match is, it's buttr*pe time for bursaspor (I hope!).
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QUOTE(mhyug @ Oct 20 2010, 03:20 PM)
my bad, silap tgk...its 2.40
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according to alien its 2:40am
according to ManUtd official Web is 2:45am
according to LiveScore is 3:45

so conclusion is 2:45am smile.gif
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QUOTE(mhyug @ Oct 20 2010, 03:20 PM)
my bad, silap tgk...its 2.40
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its 2:45

I am sure of it since the CL time slot is always at 2:45 when playing in England
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Tonight's atmosphere is going to be absolutely phenommmmmmmmenal.

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QUOTE(shirley_andy @ Oct 20 2010, 03:27 PM)
according to alien its 2:40am
according to ManUtd official Web is 2:45am
according to LiveScore is 3:45

so conclusion is 2:45am  smile.gif
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yep its 2.40 in the astro page, since a lot of list i overlooked the one written 2.40 biggrin.gif

wonder if park will be back for this game.if he can get a sub role might be ready for stoke ion the weekend.with giggs injured we need another winger.as many were wondering, obertan is injured thats why he is not selected so far.

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looks like arsenal has found a new steven gerrard in wilshere ... only 20 years old but play so well in the CL and scored a goal ...
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Ozil is also 20 and scored during this Morning's match too..
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seems that our problem is exactly the opposite from last season

last season:defence solid,forward hampeh except roo

this season:defence hampeh,forward solid except roo

i blame the chemistry(but then again,the only player we bought in is Chicarito and Smalling,so this wouldn't be the exact problem)


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for me,rather than going like for like(if rooney go),i think we should see the squad as a whole and figure out what do we lack(them old guard replacement aside,since IMO we already got them replacement in their deputies a.k.a Carrick,Nani&co)

EDIT: rooney swap deal with mourinho can?

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Who should start then smile.gif

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u stil got time to worship G11 + S18 though..not too late for that. flex.gif
bye bye roon. wish u all the luck in future...u'll need it, badly.
now let's move on, shall we??

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QUOTE(sinoffire @ Oct 20 2010, 03:35 PM)
u stil got time to worship G11 + S18 though..not too late for that.  flex.gif
bye bye roon. wish u all the luck in future...u'll need it, badly.
now let's move on, shall we??

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i cant wait to see more from Owen and Hernandez.. as long as he is fit, i believe owen can be a crucial striker for us if he is given more match practice.. for hernandez, a subs role will suits him well, which will provides him the experience to add to his pace and accurate finishing
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just asking, who is possibly will be forward tonight.

is it berbatov-hernandez?
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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Oct 20 2010, 03:34 PM)
seems that our problem is exactly the opposite from last season

last season:defence solid,forward hampeh except roo

this season:defence hampeh,forward solid except roo

i blame the chemistry(but then again,the only player we bought in is Chicarito and Smalling,so this wouldn't be the exact problem)
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for me,rather than going like for like(if rooney go),i think we should see the squad as a whole and figure out what do we lack(them old guard replacement aside,since IMO we already got them replacement in their deputies a.k.a Carrick,Nani&co)

EDIT: rooney swap deal with mourinho can?
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Be be be be be be ohhhhhh~

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ehh neh justin mana plak???
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LOLed at the comments above. Can always rely on the forum to humor me biggrin.gif

Tonight Berba+Hernandez for sure. Bebe on the bench I hope. Want to see more of him. Loving his pace at the moment
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LOLed at the comments above. Can always rely on the forum to humor me biggrin.gif

Tonight Berba+Hernandez for sure. Bebe on the bench I hope. Want to see more of him. Loving his pace at the moment
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Man Utd got player named Justin?
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Justin?! Hahahaha...

BTW...If I'm in the stadium tonite I will scream my lungs out

SAF>Rooney
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I think striking department is of no concern, but the midfield especially left wing

No Park, Obertan, old man Giggs and I don't fancy Ando playing there :|

How I wish Valencia is ready to play at the moment..
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bebe out injured.
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Go back into hole to sulk... listening to "Dry your Eyes" The streets.

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QUOTE(sHsIkuA @ Oct 20 2010, 03:52 PM)
I think striking department is of no concern, but the midfield especially left wing

No Park, Obertan, old man Giggs and I don't fancy Ando playing there :|

How I wish Valencia is ready to play at the moment..
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Isn't Obertan & Park in the travelling squad?
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QUOTE(sHsIkuA @ Oct 20 2010, 03:52 PM)
I think striking department is of no concern, but the midfield especially left wing

No Park, Obertan, old man Giggs and I don't fancy Ando playing there :|

How I wish Valencia is ready to play at the moment..
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park trained yesterday, but dunno if he will play or not.again i think its high time we call back tom cleverly and give him a go at our midfield.
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Lol hope he's not talking about Justin Bieber..

anyway ya its true striking prtnership not a real prob, cuz I see our strikers do make incisive runs, if only Midfield can provide good assist then it'll be goal galore..
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QUOTE(mhyug @ Oct 20 2010, 03:50 PM)
bebe out injured.
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yeah... i hear Rooney's ankle has been nagging him all season as well tongue.gif
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Justin Bebe I think laugh.gif
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QUOTE(shirley_andy @ Oct 20 2010, 03:56 PM)
Lol hope he's not talking about Justin Bieber..

anyway ya its true striking prtnership not a real prob, cuz I see our strikers do make incisive runs, if only Midfield can provide good assist then it'll be goal galore..
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valencia comes to mind...ayak why la that strange named scotr do a strange tackle that night....apa salah nya let him trough still ada whole defence to defend....
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QUOTE(odieseven @ Oct 20 2010, 03:54 PM)
Isn't Obertan & Park in the travelling squad?
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they dont travel since its a home game i think..
but there are in the training squad published by manutd.com yesterday..i wish to see obertan on the left wing too..

Squad of 24 train on Tuesday
Preparations for the Reds' Champions League Group C fixture against Bursaspor continued on Tuesday morning when 24 United players - including striker Wayne Rooney - taking part in a training session at Carrington.

ManUtd.com, alongside a host of national and international media, were invited to the club's training ground to watch the first 15 minutes. The 21 outfield players split into two groups for some possession work (a game known at United as "boxes") before first-team fitness coach Tony Strudwick led an energetic warm-up and stretching session.

Ryan Giggs and Bebe are both nursing minor injuries at the moment so did not take part, while Jonny Evans was also absent. It's believed Evans may also be carrying a knock.

Sir Alex and John O'Shea will field questions at a UEFA press conference held at Old Trafford at 14:00 BST on Tuesday, ahead of Turkish champions Bursaspor's visit on Wednesday night (kick-off: 19:45 BST).

Training squad: Amos, Kuszczak, van der Sar; W Brown, Evra, Ferdinand, Neville, O'Shea, Rafael, Smalling, Vidic; Anderson, Carrick, Fletcher, Gibson, Nani, Obertan, Park, Scholes; Berbatov, Hernandez, Macheda, Owen, Rooney.
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No don't associate Bieber with Bebe tongue.gif
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Oh nice bring on Obertan! IIRC, he perform quite well in the pre-season friendlies but somehow keep out due to injury? Someone correct me on this if I am wrong smile.gif

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QUOTE(shirley_andy @ Oct 20 2010, 03:59 PM)
No don't associate Bieber with Bebe tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Ken @ Oct 20 2010, 03:31 PM)
looks like arsenal has found a new steven gerrard in wilshere ... only 20 years old but play so well in the CL and scored a goal ...
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i cant stop LOLed at Justin...

no need to go /k/ jokes haven. here also enough.

BTW, how about Hargreaves? i tot he should play on match with West Brom.
sorry if i am being slowpoke.
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QUOTE(dEviLs @ Oct 20 2010, 03:58 PM)
they dont travel since its a home game i think..
but there are in the training squad published by manutd.com yesterday..i wish to see obertan on the left wing too..
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doh.gif Want to say training but said travelling

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QUOTE(fhunkyfhinky @ Oct 20 2010, 04:00 PM)
i cant stop LOLed at Justin...

no need to go /k/ jokes haven. here also enough.

BTW, how about Hargreaves? i tot he should play on match with West Brom.
sorry if i am being slowpoke.
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he was injured apparently(calf this time) when the rumor he was ready to play surfaced.thats why fergie said steadman isnt right to say he was ready for the wba game.

anyway he wont be featuring in cl for the moment..not registered.

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Hargreaves still nursing injury rite?
anyway long time never see Hargreaves play alrdy, he's a defensive midfielder, good to bring on after we've scored to secure the lead
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QUOTE(shirley_andy @ Oct 20 2010, 04:02 PM)
Hargreaves still nursing injury rite?
anyway long time never see Hargreaves play alrdy, he's a defensive midfielder, good to bring on after we've scored to secure the lead
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ouch...quite a bad thing for United this lately..

rival always comeback after we've leading....
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QUOTE(shirley_andy @ Oct 20 2010, 04:02 PM)
Hargreaves still nursing injury rite?
anyway long time never see Hargreaves play alrdy, he's a defensive midfielder, good to bring on after we've scored to secure the lead
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nursing a new one.calf according to the gaffer.as long as its not the knee again i think we can expect he to return some time nov/dec.
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one thing I still don't get is SAF's trust in Gibson...He's clearly not United quality, should ship him out in January or in the summer and get ourselves a midfield playmaker
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Hargreaves isn't registered for the CL and the nature of his injury means he affects other muscles in the leg due to overcompensating for the knee. Looks like he still has some ways to go.

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I think Gibson did improved his game.. Altho further improvement is much appreciated.
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QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ Oct 20 2010, 04:10 PM)
He isn't registered for the CL and the nature of his injury means he affects other muscles in the leg due to overcompensating for the knee. Looks like he still has some ways to go.
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some way to go or end of the route for him sweat.gif

even if he does make a comeback i dont see how he can improve the current midfield unsure.gif
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http://www.ontheminute.com/news/news.php?news=26058
siapa ni?

i think we shud get darren bent~~~~
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QUOTE(shirley_andy @ Oct 20 2010, 04:12 PM)
I think Gibson did improved his game.. Altho further improvement is much appreciated.
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Minimal improvements as he gets more game time..Apart from them I don't see anything that will change my mind
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QUOTE(dEviLs @ Oct 20 2010, 04:12 PM)
some way to go or end of the route for him  sweat.gif

even if he does make a comeback i dont see how he can improve the current midfield unsure.gif
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well for starters he can share the freekick duties, give scholes the much needed rest and an all diffrent type of player compared to fletch.fletch gets the ball owen do wonders with them.itu dulu la b4 he was injured.

but i still have faith if he can just keep fit, make a comeback surely slowly he can regain what he has lost this 2 years.
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QUOTE(angel-face @ Oct 20 2010, 04:13 PM)
http://www.ontheminute.com/news/news.php?news=26058
siapa ni?

i think we shud get darren bent~~~~
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henderson.. talented young player..
darren bent? I think we've got enough strikers for now
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QUOTE(shirley_andy @ Oct 20 2010, 04:17 PM)
henderson.. talented young player..
darren bent? I think we've got enough strikers for now
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we have enough strikers...but need some1 that can score goals for us...chica,diouf and macheda need more time i think...jz my opinion
bout henderson rite....wat position?
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QUOTE(angel-face @ Oct 20 2010, 04:19 PM)
we have enough strikers...but need some1 that can score goals for us...chica,diouf and macheda need more time i think...jz my opinion
bout henderson rite....wat position?
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AMC
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Cantekk!!!
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no need for more strikers, TOO MUCH...Just need a creative midfielder
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a bit like Ozil?
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dun wait edi...get him!!!!
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QUOTE(shirley_andy @ Oct 20 2010, 04:21 PM)
a bit like Ozil?
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little bit of unlucky we didn't get him last transfer window.

I really wish he will at OT at that time.
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A bit difficult since Ozil just transferred & he's doing well there.

I'm thinking on Sneijder...but its wishful thinking
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forget it, we have cleverley
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QUOTE(odieseven @ Oct 20 2010, 04:24 PM)
A bit difficult since Ozil just transferred & he's doing well there.

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forget it, we have cleverley
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bebe some more.

haish...i cant stop that...
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SAF sure will buy some1 new to add the attack!!!
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QUOTE(angel-face @ Oct 20 2010, 04:27 PM)
SAF sure will buy some1 new to add the attack!!!
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so Cleverley is confirmed coming back from Loan in Jan?
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If only we had money!

I'm sure SAFs been planning to buy replacements for Scholes & Van Der Sar but now a new striker comes into the mix. That's a lot of dough!
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QUOTE(SGSuser @ Oct 20 2010, 04:29 PM)
calm down
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errrr tengok ini http://www.espnstar.com/football/premier-l...oney-at-United/
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No not another striker..... I wanna let Chicha have more games..
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Already...buy another striker so that Hernandez and Macheda as well as Welbeck and Diouf and of course Bebe will always stay on the bench?
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QUOTE(shirley_andy @ Oct 20 2010, 04:32 PM)
No not another striker..... I wanna let Chicha have more games..
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I also want to see more of his action.
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QUOTE(mhyug @ Oct 20 2010, 04:00 PM)
nnt sino come in and rampage all. tongue.gif
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pulak dah...last2 aku plak kena.... doh.gif tgk sapa kat siggy aku yg start lagu tuh?? tongue.gif

buy buy buy.....any idea if we have any benjamins to spend on??? no $$$ no talk. uncle GG put us in debt, u think we got $$ to buy?? think twice.

and on the henderson from black cats...promising fler. he and cattermole were running around the midfield in 2nd half. buy so much for wat? our own reserves amacam? no chance to step up.

tbh, the old horses are really their time to step down, and let the youngsters play already. no playing time, how discover their talent?? hari2 main kat reserve, camne nak step-up??? vds nak main lagi plak tu... shakehead.gif thanks for the contributions all these time, but when it's time to move on, move on. be it club ambassadors, trainers, scouts etc etc.

ahhhhh...dun care edi lar..in saf i trust. possible the 4th squad rebuilding in process, for life without judas10. this is gonna be tough with the debts on the club's shoulder. wink.gif
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QUOTE(dEviLs @ Oct 20 2010, 04:12 PM)
some way to go or end of the route for him  sweat.gif

even if he does make a comeback i dont see how he can improve the current midfield unsure.gif
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Well, he can definitely do a job on the right wing. Now the only question is like what you said.

some way to go or end of the route for him? sad.gif

QUOTE(angel-face @ Oct 20 2010, 04:13 PM)
http://www.ontheminute.com/news/news.php?news=26058
siapa ni?

i think we shud get darren bent~~~~
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Darren Bent? I doubt that. He's a good goal scorer, but too one dimensional. He needs the team to be built around him. And we all know the perils of doing that.

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Like SGuser said before,we are much more in need of a creative midfielder.


Added on October 20, 2010, 4:38 pmI think we faced problems when Scholes & Fletcher is either not in the team or not in form.

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QUOTE(odieseven @ Oct 20 2010, 04:36 PM)
Like SGuser said before,we are much more in need of a creative midfielder.


Added on October 20, 2010, 4:38 pmI think we faced problems when Scholes & Fletcher is either not in the team or not in form.
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midfielder-----> ozil. feck i will cut my duck if by any chance we can get him.
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Ur duck?No prob...later we can all enjoy nasi itik laugh.gif
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QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ Oct 20 2010, 04:35 PM)
Well, he can definitely do a job on the right wing. Now the only question is like what you said.

some way to go or end of the route for him? sad.gif

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i thought he struggle to make impact when he played at right wing last time ? unsure.gif
never doubt of his fighting spirit and freekick skills but i see him more like a sweeper at our own half
going forward he is not that threatening, what we lack at midfield now is someone who can deliver a killer pass and great vision just like scholesy.. unsure.gif
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creative midfield....hmmmm dowan buy...wan give reserve chance...susah ni...try gibson? tom clever? lagi ade siapa? obotak tu macam collection...


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Ur duck?No prob...later we can all enjoy nasi itik laugh.gif
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nasi itik wit bulu bulu

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Forget Oezil, the guy just got into Real for less than 3 months ffs
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QUOTE(angel-face @ Oct 20 2010, 04:40 PM)
creative midfield....hmmmm dowan buy...wan give reserve chance...susah ni...try gibson? tom clever? lagi ade siapa? obotak tu macam collection...


Added on October 20, 2010, 4:41 pm
nasi itik wit bulu bulu
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I'm sure that our youngsters have tremendous talent but i think it's too big of a risk for them to be relied on as 1st teamers.
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so far I think Cleverley MIGHT the one with pace and attacking penetration compared to Gibson etc..
Gibson is a shooter type and not really able to run fast with the ball and pass.
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QUOTE(angel-face @ Oct 20 2010, 04:40 PM)
creative midfield....hmmmm dowan buy...wan give reserve chance...susah ni...try gibson? tom clever? lagi ade siapa? obotak tu macam collection...


Added on October 20, 2010, 4:41 pm
nasi itik wit bulu bulu
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it all requires balance.buying wont solve problem instantly either.so why not wait and see how its goes.we cant possibly win every thing every time but that doesnt mean were resting on our laurels.

any improvement is good, and the way were improving now is considered what we can do at the moment.thats fine by me.

we have players coming from injury, players who are still injured, players in an off form, add youths to it and we have a mix of things.time is needed to get all these variety of things to work but it will work and when it comes we can see the fruits of hard work gone in to it.

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roon going out....dun forget there's a clause that everton may get 25% of the selling clause in the contract last time..so we may not be getting the full amt to the club that roon is going to. got this one from the cafe.
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see u still dare to eat nasi itik o not la...haha...damn it...which means rooney out but no one in~~~
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see u still dare to eat nasi itik o not la...haha...damn it...which means rooney out but no one in~~~
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QUOTE(angel-face @ Oct 20 2010, 04:46 PM)
see u still dare to eat nasi itik o not la...haha...damn it...which means rooney out but no one in~~~
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Rooney out, reserves IN
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QUOTE(sinoffire @ Oct 20 2010, 04:45 PM)
roon going out....dun forget there's a clause that everton may get 25% of the selling clause in the contract last time..so we may not be getting the full amt to the club that roon is going to. got this one from the cafe.
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ya.. i also read bout that. but izit still active o not?
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reserve IN...but must got impact~~~~!!!! hehe which i belif our reserve got the quality


Added on October 20, 2010, 4:49 pmsianz..still need to give everton 25%.....macam ni..habuk pun x de la ni....sianz...

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QUOTE(nazanto @ Oct 20 2010, 04:48 PM)
ya.. i also read bout that. but izit still active o not?
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of course still active...it's 25% profit of next sale..so if we sale for less than what we bought for him, everton wont get a quid...i guess it's like that
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QUOTE(SGSuser @ Oct 20 2010, 04:50 PM)
of course still active...it's 25% profit of next sale..so if we sale for less than what we bought for him, everton wont get a quid...i guess it's like that
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yes you are right..so i think we just sell at the same price lol


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/t...utd/9104392.stm
If he does leave then Everton would be in line to scoop a small fortune. The Toffees have a sell-on clause in Rooney's contract which states that they would get 25% of any excess sum over the £27m United eventually paid for the striker.
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QUOTE(dEviLs @ Oct 20 2010, 04:40 PM)
i thought he struggle to make impact when he played at right wing last time ? unsure.gif
never doubt of his fighting spirit and freekick skills but i see him more like a sweeper at our own half
going forward he is not that threatening, what we lack at midfield now is someone who can deliver a killer pass and great vision just like scholesy.. unsure.gif
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And SAF's 4-4-2 is mostly built around wing play with the CMs main role being retaining possession. Our 06/07 season was built with this principal as we had two amazing CMs in Scholes and Carrick who were both amazing in retaining possession.
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QUOTE(SGSuser @ Oct 20 2010, 04:50 PM)
of course still active...it's 25% profit of next sale..so if we sale for less than what we bought for him, everton wont get a quid...i guess it's like that
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i know bout the clause n such thing. but im juz confuse whether the clause still active because he sign new contract in 2006 if im not mistaken. if still active then everton will lucky if citeh bid for rooney la. coz i doubt other club will bid more than 30 m consider he can be free agent later.
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The breakdown (pre- United v Bursaspor)

East Stirlingshire (June 1974-October 1974)
P17 W9 D2 L6 F36 A28

St Mirren (October 1974-May 1978)
P169 W74 D41 L54 F292 A222

Aberdeen (June 1978-November 1986)
P459 W272 D105 L82 F914 A374

Scotland (October 1985-June 1986)
P10 W3 D4 L3 F8 A5

Manchester United (November 1986-present)
P1344 W791 D314 L239 F2448 A1203

TOTAL - P1999 W1149 D466 L384 F3698 A1832
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I want see Bebe for a start tonight. A brilliant performance for him and we will forget about Roon in no time....

The team needs a new hero now.. Berba? Nani?
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I want see Bebe for a start tonight. A brilliant performance for him and we will forget about Roon in no time....

The team needs a new hero now.. Berba? Nani?
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2000th? Congratulations Sir Alex. Long live Sir Alex.

I'm pretty sure all eyes on Man Utd tonight after the shocking news.

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aiyoh. like i said la guys. you put even messi infront of the goal, he wont score because the midfield isnt capable enough of getting the ball to him.

we desperately need to revamp our midfield. both in AM and DM. if hargreaves come back, we have one less problem to deal with.
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QUOTE(headhunter7 @ Oct 20 2010, 05:01 PM)
aiyoh. like i said la guys. you put even messi infront of the goal, he wont score because the midfield isnt capable enough of getting the ball to him.

we desperately need to revamp our midfield. both in AM and DM. if hargreaves come back, we have one less problem to deal with.
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hargo? that's another problem we need to solve. he aint young. he may just retire from footie altogether if he cant make it this time around. dun hold ur hope so high on it.

abit of trsf gossips, there were reports saying that RM willing to offer lass diarra + benz + 20m to get roon over there...worth a deal?
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at this time i really wish to hear Eamonn Dunphy opinon about this case.
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QUOTE(sinoffire @ Oct 20 2010, 05:05 PM)
hargo? that's another problem we need to solve. he aint young. he may just retire from footie altogether if he cant make it this time around. dun hold ur hope so high on it.

abit of trsf gossips, there were reports saying that RM willing to offer lass diarra  + benz + 20m to get roon over there...worth a deal?
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hence the IF in the sentence laugh.gif

It's very much a good deal, I suppose. Strengthens the team in the midfield and replaces a spot in the strikers position. Both are capable enough players. smile.gif
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QUOTE(nazanto @ Oct 20 2010, 05:06 PM)
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just my 2cent. If what is reported is true, n that rooney does not wanna play abroad, chances are he is gonna join our rival. (Namely either chelsea or city). No matter how i try to be optimistic, ultimately what will happen is we are gonna lose our talismatic striker, enrich our rival without getting the what rooney is worth (contract less than 2 years to go, summore have to pay 25% to everton), and the scarcity of like for like replacement in terms of quality. We will be consoling ourself by putting our faith on unproven player like macheda n hernandez to step up to the plate.

To be frank, if he really were to leave, we can say goodbye to the EPL trophy for the next 2 to 3 years as we enters a transitional period. I am not saying that without rooney, our team are crap, just that it paints a bad picture for the club, that one of our most influential player is leaving just as he is entering his prime. 4 of our influential player most probably retiring this summer. Our most recent transfer investment does not look rosy either, with the lack of investment on proven players. It might be a turn off for players.

Ultimately, man utd as a club will survive this fiasco with or without rooney, but hark ye, dark times are ahead. Anyone saying otherwise are either a fool or too optimistic

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"Our most recent transfer investment does not look rosy either"
actually we do have alot of promising young players, just that they not given chance to step up, and Rooney leaving is can be seen as chance for them to step up..

Look at Germany, a number of their senior players retired from international or injured during the World Cup and lots of younger players step up and performed quite well..
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come on now lets head to burssaspor.rooney bisnes can wait, in fact simpan ja.lets assume this is the kick start of life after rooney.what ever happens happens, no matter who we sell him to, or who we get in for his replacement.it will run its own course in its own time.

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QUOTE(shirley_andy @ Oct 20 2010, 06:38 PM)
"Our most recent transfer investment does not look rosy either"
actually we do have alot of promising young players, just that they not given chance to step up, and Rooney leaving is can be seen as chance for them to step up..

Look at Germany, a number of their senior players retired from international or injured during the World Cup and lots of younger players step up and performed quite well..
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Well germany is a great example but you must know a lot of homegrown player in bundesliga than foreigner plus the winter break did help a lot to avoid injuries and well rested. Furthermore, most young homegrown EPL play lower tier such as Championship and League 1.

Plus Marin ,Muller and a lot of germany youth did shine in Bundesliga compare to Epl.

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QUOTE(calvin_yit @ Oct 20 2010, 06:28 PM)
just my 2cent. If what is reported is true, n that rooney does not wanna play abroad, chances are he is gonna join our rival. (Namely either chelsea or city). No matter how i try to be optimistic, ultimately what will happen is we are gonna lose our talismatic striker, enrich our rival without getting the what rooney is worth (contract less than 2 years to go, summore have to pay 25% to everton), and the scarcity of like for like replacement in terms of quality. We will be consoling ourself by putting our faith on unproven player like macheda n hernandez to step up to the plate.

To be frank, if he really were to leave, we can say goodbye to the EPL trophy for the next 2 to 3 years as we enters a transitional period. I am not saying that without rooney, our team are crap, just that it paints a bad picture for the club, that one of our most influential player is leaving just as he is entering his prime. 4 of our influential player most probably retiring this summer.  Our most recent transfer investment does not look rosy either, with the lack of investment on proven players. It might be a turn off for players.

Ultimately, man utd as a club will survive this fiasco with or without rooney, but hark ye, dark times are ahead. Anyone saying otherwise are either a fool or too optimistic
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biar la rooney nak pegi pon.... biar dia masuk city.... amik duit tuh g beli yg lain... orang kalo takleh hormat ketua neh.... masuk mana2 organisasi pon hancur.... die ingat kepala die besar sangat ke hape....?

sendiri ada masalah peribadi... orang nak kaver pon nak bodoh sombong.... pirraaahhhh....

anyway.... i dun think striker is a prob... berduyun lagik nak masuk MU... beli attacking midfielder instead....

kang tak smpi ujung season... nyesal la tuh karang....
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SAF has about 2 months to change Rooney's mind. He could still sign the new contract. (I still can't believe it, he's a gold digger afterall doh.gif)
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QUOTE(calvin_yit @ Oct 20 2010, 06:28 PM)
just my 2cent. If what is reported is true, n that rooney does not wanna play abroad, chances are he is gonna join our rival. (Namely either chelsea or city). No matter how i try to be optimistic, ultimately what will happen is we are gonna lose our talismatic striker, enrich our rival without getting the what rooney is worth (contract less than 2 years to go, summore have to pay 25% to everton), and the scarcity of like for like replacement in terms of quality. We will be consoling ourself by putting our faith on unproven player like macheda n hernandez to step up to the plate.

To be frank, if he really were to leave, we can say goodbye to the EPL trophy for the next 2 to 3 years as we enters a transitional period. I am not saying that without rooney, our team are crap, just that it paints a bad picture for the club, that one of our most influential player is leaving just as he is entering his prime. 4 of our influential player most probably retiring this summer.  Our most recent transfer investment does not look rosy either, with the lack of investment on proven players. It might be a turn off for players.

Ultimately, man utd as a club will survive this fiasco with or without rooney, but hark ye, dark times are ahead. Anyone saying otherwise are either a fool or too optimistic
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Actually its sad to hear this about Rooney. im one of those people that never thought rooney will leave the club ever. the thought of seeing him playing in either blue jersey of chelsea or city, really makes me sad and also angry at the same time.

but looking towards the future, we will be going into a transitional period for sure whether we like it or not. we all know vds,neville, scholes and giggs will be out of the team by next year or even earlier so. then what we hv got left? quite many unproven youngsters that wouldn't be able to fulfill the roles left by the golden oldies.

And also looking at our debts problem, it is said that few more years down the road we will end up like liverpool and like it or not,glazer hv to sell the club. and give and take few more seasons, we all know Sir Alex Ferguson will be retiring soon. He had manage the club for so long and already develop a playing system which suits every player in the club. we have to get a new coach, and a world class one at that too , to run the club from start.

Thats what i personally think for the long term and coming. This season, already throwing 10 points away give Chelsea dn even city an early advantage. Winning trophy or not this season, we will go into a restructuring period in terms of management and etc soon.

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Actually its sad to hear this about Rooney. im one of those people that never thought rooney will leave the club ever. the thought of seeing him playing in either blue jersey of chelsea or city, really makes me sad and also angry at the same time.

but looking towards the future, we will be going into a transitional period for sure whether we like it or not. we all know vds,neville, scholes and giggs will be out of the team by next year or even earlier so. then what we hv got left? quite many unproven youngsters that wouldn't be able to fulfill the roles left by the golden oldies.

And also looking at our debts problem, it is said that few more years down the road we will end up like liverpool and like it or not,glazer hv to sell the club. and give and take few more seasons, we all know Sir Alex Ferguson will be retiring soon. He had manage the club for so long and already develop a playing system which suits every player in the club. we have to get a new coach, and a world class one at that too , to run the club from start.

Thats what i personally think for the long term and coming. This season, already throwing 10 points away give Chelsea dn even city an early advantage. Winning trophy or not this season, we will go into a restructuring period in terms of management and etc soon.

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"The manager will answer questions about the Bursaspor game and then deal with the Wayne issue at the end," said Karen, the club's press officer.

So now we knew. There would be no evasion. No blackout. No swerving the issue. Sir Alex would be addressing matters head on.

An expectant hush fell over the massed ranks of journalists, photographers and film crews crammed into the Europa Suite at Old Trafford. Pre-match press conferences ahead of Champions League group games increasingly have an air of the routine about them but not this one.

After 10 minutes of obedient, almost token queries about the qualities of the Turkish visitors and United's recent defensive lapses, John O'Shea was sent out of the room and Sir Alex was left alone to speak.

As well as attending many Manchester United press conferences in recent years, two seasons ago I had the privilege of interviewing Ferguson on a one-to-one basis immediately before and after Premier League matches.

At the time, United were locked in a title race with arch rivals Liverpool and the pressure was on the manager. But regardless of the result or the opposition, he was always firmly in control, forthright, self-assured, almost menacing in his certainty.

But on Tuesday I witnessed a Ferguson I had never seen before. Crestfallen, befuddled, exasperated, he took on the air of a heartbroken father, saddened and stunned by the wayward antics of a favourite son.

At one point, having abandoned the piece of paper from which he had initially intended to read, Sir Alex fell silent, apparently lost for words. He appeared close to tears. For the first time in his long reign at Old Trafford, the manager seemed to have no answer to the simple question: "Why?"


On the face of it, Ferguson's pain over Rooney's decision to leave is understandable. Perhaps more than any other player the Scot has coached, Rooney seems to be a man cut from the same cloth. A working-class warrior from the bleak streets of Croxteth, here was a naturally gifted, intensely motivated man, driven not by greed but by the sheer love of doing what comes so naturally - simply playing and scoring goals.

In wanting to leave, Rooney appears to betray those qualities, living up to the image of the modern professional footballer. And in doing so, he leaves his manager in shock.

For now, Ferguson's extraordinary press conference will ensure he claims the moral high ground in the eyes of United's fans - he is bound to receive rapturous applause before Wednesday's Champions League game with Bursaspor.

And yet, in reality - and Ferguson knows this - Rooney's decision is entirely consistent with the defining principle that he applies to his profession. Anyone who has ever witnessed the terrifying, selfless commitment with which he treats every training session knows above all that Rooney wants to win. To say this is just a mercenary, available to whichever club will offer the best deal in town, is too simplistic.

Rather, ambition more than avarice has dominated Rooney's thinking. Sure, Rooney and his advisers will be aware that less talented players like Yaya Toure are on more than double the Englishman's wages at Manchester City. While not being able to match such eye-watering amounts, it is clear United are prepared to offer Rooney significantly more than the £90,000 a week he currently enjoys. Yet he still wants to leave.

Ferguson may lament the influence of agents like Paul Stretford and wage inflation. But, as far as Rooney is concerned, this misses the point. At 24, the striker knows his next long-term contract could be the last of his career and will have asked himself whether United, saddled with vast debt and soon to be without the guidance of their great manager, will be the dominant force going forward that they have been in recent years. It is my understanding Rooney has looked at the evidence and decided the answer is no.

Rooney's representatives first told United's chief executive David Gill of his reluctance to sign a new contract on 14 August. The reason it remained a secret was because, at that point, the player's departure from Old Trafford was still far from certain. If it had been, then, with two weeks of the transfer window still to go, would Rooney not have been sold there and then before his value dropped further?

Ferguson's disappointment at lurid allegations over the striker's private life was not the deal breaker that it could have been. Nor was Rooney's public contradiction of his manager's assessment of an ankle injury. Neither issue helped matters and made the breakdown in negotiations harder to salvage but they were not decisive, hence Ferguson's admission that "the door remains open".

Above all, Rooney is troubled by United's failure to replenish their squad. For years, Ferguson has forged great teams and then replaced them with others, always regenerating, developing, poaching, selling. But, with United having to service huge interest repayments and contending with £80m losses, that process has slowed.

At the end of last season, after losing in the Champions League quarter-finals and relinquishing the Premier League title to Chelsea, Rooney will have looked at Paul Scholes, Ryan Giggs and Gary Neville and wondered who the club would be bringing in to replace these great servants.

While all fine prospects, it is doubtful whether the arrival of Javier Hernandez, Chris Smalling and Bebe will have satisfied the striker. United appear just as reliant on their old guard as they did a year ago - and this will have proved decisive in Rooney's thinking.

Ambition brought Rooney to United in the first place. Ambition on the part of the player, who left the club he had followed as a boy. And ambition on the part of his manager, who recognised the innate genius of the stocky teenager and ruthlessly stole a prized asset Everton had nurtured and honed.

In little more than a year, Ferguson has been powerless to prevent the departures of Cristiano Ronaldo and Carlos Tevez, both players the manager admires. I understand nothing that Ferguson said on Tuesday has changed Rooney's mind. Soon he will be gone, too, and it will hurt the manager in a way he has not experienced before.

The pursuit of success still defines Ferguson but for United there are other considerations, other pressures at play. United are restricted in a way that the wealthier Manchester City are not. One senses that the balance of power is shifting both in English football and perhaps Manchester itself.

Great players have come and gone at Old Trafford in the past but Rooney's impending departure is different and starkly telling.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/danroan/2010/10...ney_revolt.html
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if Rooney leave us...i think the team will struggle and chica,diouf,welback and macheda will had their chance...BUT still they need time to suit to our playing style....just my opinion

Feel sad that SAF kena betray.....T.T
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No wonder Sir Alex heartbroken. It just seems yesterday that these three play together. cry.gif
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Dan Roan -you are a bullshit sports writer.

look at how Rooney play in manchester united last two champions league final against Chelsea and Barca and the recent World Cup , does he looks like a player or a man with ambition . if anything , those vital games proved he lacks ambition , skills and talent

judge for yourself .

if he has any ambition at all, he should not have request for a transfer and stay to fight . everyone knows he's the leading man at United and he can show he has ambition by being that

Wayne Rooney , for all that i like about him and only as a man utd player before last night press statement , is simply OVER RATED and very much so

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No wonder Sir Alex heartbroken. It just seems yesterday that these three play together. cry.gif
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Reminds me of Obi Wan telling Anakin at the lava pit in the end of Revenge of The Sith "You are supposed to bring the balance to the force not destroying the Jedi - something like that"

oh well as long as the DF n GK tighten up... It is still plausible to get into Top 4.
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http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/...n-Utd-down.html

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Rooney to give a statement later today(tomorrow for us), from a reliable source...but no guarantees though

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http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11667_6456729,00.html

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http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid=...&newsid=6652955

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Papers: Manager nails the myth

Paul Hayward writes in The Guardian...

Ferguson's stance poses questions about Rooney's attitude
There are still times in his 24 years as Manchester United manager when Sir Alex Ferguson peels his jacket off for a fight. Challenged the way he has been by Wayne Rooney and his camp, he reverts to survival mode. In his thoughts he returns to the streets of Govan. This conflict was not one he invited. But such has been the level of provocation from his rebellious star that Ferguson was forced to go on the counter to protect his own standing with the club's owners and supporters. His dissection of Rooney's mutinous conduct was about as good as daytime television is ever likely to get. Some detected a wounded air about Ferguson at a riveting press briefing in Manchester. Some thought he seemed sad - beaten, even - as if an ungrateful 24-year-old had shattered his beliefs about what a Manchester United player should be, and how he ought to behave. The word is that any sorrow Ferguson displayed stems from his conviction that he had helped and protected his star through many a personal convulsion and red card brouhaha and was now being repaid with a kind of contempt. But equally he was in snorting political form. The alternative strategy would have been to excoriate the first journalist bold enough to ask what was going on. Instead he came armed with a speech that nailed several damaging myths and cast Rooney as a mercenary with no regard for United's health.

Also in today's newspapers...

There is a wealth of reaction to Sir Alex's press conference - "the performance of his life" (Oliver Holt, Daily Mirror) - and his frank MUTV interview. There's also speculation as to who could replace Rooney if he goes - "Manchester United eye January swoop for Torres" (Telegraph) - and the Mirror's claim that Sunderland's Jordan Henderson could "spark a £15m-plus auction" between the Reds and Manchester City.



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OMG!! We've a celebrity here!!

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Rooney to give a statement later today(tomorrow for us), from a reliable source...but no guarantees though
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p.s the sun article is really funny.i doubt the gaffer has given him any telling off due to his private life matters, in fact he must have given him fatherly advise instead.these papers tulis cam x dak insurence ja.mulut lancang gla.tenyeh cabai baru tau.bengong punya org putih!! mad.gif
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More $..
Agent crony..
UK tax man..
Club lack ambition..
Personal life (escorts)..
Joining the BPL Blues..or
The Elite in Spain - White of Madrid or Messi led Barca
Club > Player..
Going, Went & Gone..likes of,
RVN, Post Beck, Captain Keano, Animal Carlito..
SAF press..the tears, the support..
Scholes "mis-timed" tackle..
Rooney's statement ??

What has been said, already been said..
What needed to be done, already been done..


Fellow Devils, let's embrace the beautiful game play by our beloved MU Team again.

Ask the question - Where will MU be 3 years from now with Glazers in the helm.
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QUOTE(AuRevoir @ Oct 20 2010, 10:50 PM)
More $..
Agent crony..
UK tax man..
Club lack ambition..
Personal life (escorts)..
Joining the BPL Blues..or
The Elite in Spain - White of Madrid or Messi led Barca
Club > Player..
Going, Went & Gone..likes of,
RVN, Post Beck, Captain Keano, Animal Carlito..
SAF press..the tears, the support..
Scholes "mis-timed" tackle..
Rooney's statement ??

What has been said, already been said..
What needed to be done, already been done..
Fellow Devils, let's embrace the beautiful game play by our beloved MU Team again.

Ask the question - Where will MU be 3 years from now with Glazers in the helm.
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how about instead we focus on how the team should tackle tonights ot new comer. smile.gif
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I read the open letter written by fans on stretford-end.com and i have to say,they have got it spot on with their points. Rooney really is making SAF seem like the villain when all he has ever done was protect and help rooney in everything.
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waa you looking depan sangat la...laugh.gif

how about instead we focus on how the team should tackle tonights ot new comer. smile.gif
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Sir Alex Ferguson yesterday accused Wayne Rooney of showing Manchester United a lack of respect by indulging in the kind of "nonsense" that the manager had warned him against when accepting his desire to leave Old Trafford, two months ago..

Ferguson, whose admission that United's £150,000-a-week offer to Rooney has proved insufficient to keep him, provided a detailed explanation of how their own relationship has had nothing to do with the 24-year-old's decision to go – as The Independent reported on Monday. But Ferguson believes Rooney has shown grave disrespect to United by allowing suggestions to the contrary to take hold, in part by directly contradicting the manager's claims that he has been carrying an ankle injury.

Ferguson revealed that after Rooney had confirmed he wanted out of Old Trafford, he asked that he go with good grace. "I said to him only one thing," Ferguson said. "I said, 'Just remember one thing, respect this club. I don't want any nonsense from you. Just respect the club.' I don't know if he has done that. I have my doubts about that."

The question of whether Rooney will play for United again is in some doubt. The player was carried from a Carrington training pitch with another ankle injury yesterday and will not play against Bursaspor in the Champions League at Old Trafford tonight.

The search is already under way for a replacement, with United fans likely to view the non-replacement of another totemic player as incontrovertible proof that the Glazers do not have the money to invest. United have already begun making discreet inquiries about Liverpool's Fernando Torres, who is hugely disillusioned at Anfield and now ready to leave, possibly as early as January – when it would also make most financial sense for Rooney to be sold.

Liverpool's new American owners have spelt out that they are not willing to pay inordinate wages and United may be ready to make an initial bid in January. Ferguson was interested in Torres before Rafael Benitez signed him in 2007 and the manager's renewed plans may explain why he was so furious about his comments on Torres feigning injury being translated into "cheat" headlines after United's 3-2 win over Liverpool on 19 September. Ferguson has not held a Friday press conference since.

That furore occurred over a month after a telephone call on 14 August in which Rooney's agent, Paul Stretford, told United chief executive, David Gill, that the player wanted to leave – just as Ferguson was beginning to consider a move for the 26-year-old Torres. First indications are that Liverpool may be willing to let Torres leave and that the club's new owners, John W Henry and Tom Werner, who have not been averse to their baseball stars leaving for potential rivals, may be ready to apply the same rationale at Anfield.

The Manchester City manager, Roberto Mancini, will be asked about Rooney for the first time at a press conference scheduled for 10am today to discuss the club's Europa League tie with Lech Poznan. The £221,000-a-week salary that will be commanded by City's Yaya Touré – a far less potent Premier League player than Rooney – is the one which has switched the striker on to the idea of leaving United. City have been happy to wait and watch the situation this week. But the club knew of the breakdown in talks just days after Stretford's call to Gill and would be likely to sell players to facilitate a move.

Ferguson accused Rooney of deliberately claiming that they had argued as a device to ease his departure from Old Trafford. "We've not had any argument, not a bit," he said. "I think that you have to understand the mechanics of these situations when people are working in terms of wanting to leave a club. It's an easy one to say you've fallen out with the manager. And I think there are traces of that."

Ferguson said, "the door is always open," for the 24-year-old, but clearly believes that the contract discussions will not resume. "There is no offer on the table, because they're not prepared to listen to an offer, but there's always an offer there from Manchester United to negotiate with a player, and that's still there," he said.

He holds Stretford accountable. "We're dealing with players whose agents live in their pockets. It's a different world we're in now and so we have to deal with it in a different way. It's a pity but it's there and we have to deal with it." After such a strong and eloquent blow from Ferguson in what has become a public battle this week, Rooney's representatives will be debating whether to respond, to counter the manager's comments.

Ferguson said United were devastated to hear of Rooney's decision in August, since he had indicated before the World Cup that he wanted to sign a new £150,000-a-week deal. Gill broke the news to him immediately.

"David phoned me and said he'd got a call from [Rooney's agent] saying that he wasn't going to sign a contract," Ferguson related. "So then David came across to see me. He said, 'I can't believe this'. Well, I couldn't believe it. I was just... dumbfounded. I could not understand it at all because only months before he was saying it's the greatest club in the world, he wanted to stay for life and we just don't know what's changed the boy's mind really in relationship to that."

The Spain-based law firm Ruiz Huerta y Crespo has been involved in every major Article 17 case to date and are the world's leading authority on the subject. The firm is not involved in the Rooney case but has confirmed toThe Independent Rooney could leave United under Article 17 as long as he met compensation requirements applicable to him, which have varied and evolved from case to case since Andy Webster first invoked the rule to leave Hearts in 2006.


http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/footbal...ct-2111205.html

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QUOTE(alien2003 @ Oct 20 2010, 11:08 PM)
Sir Alex Ferguson: 'A lack of respect'
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/footbal...ct-2111205.html

Any taker?  laugh.gif
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still cant accept how ROONEY betray SAF!!!
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Look at that newspaper article man.

I saw the news conference. They can take 1 news conference and goreng the story into so many different versions.... even into that article ... lol
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Reminds me of Obi Wan telling Anakin at the lava pit in the end of Revenge of The Sith "You are supposed to bring the balance to the force not destroying the Jedi - something like that"

oh well as long as the DF n GK tighten up... It is still plausible to get into Top 4.
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QUOTE(Pain_X @ Oct 20 2010, 10:56 PM)
I read the open letter written by fans on stretford-end.com and i have to say,they have got it spot on with their points. Rooney really is making SAF seem like the villain when all he has ever done was protect and help rooney in everything.
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for me it will always be SAF > Players.
if a club glorify a player too much they'll get relegated......remember newcastle-shearer debacle.
i believe chachirito is good enough at the front with berba/macheda/BEBO!
the only thing we need better quality is at the rear either better defender or keeper.
wingers we have lotsa just many unavailable now.....always looks darkest before xmas.
as long as we're in top 4 and the gap isn't above 10, it is always possible for a comeback.
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dont buy torres buy pato !
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dont buy torres buy pato !
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QUOTE(kobe8byrant @ Oct 20 2010, 09:36 PM)
Hi Hitchcocker biggrin.gif
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Waiting for Rooney's statement. What IF he says he's gonna stay at Man Utd for life. What's your reaction to that? brows.gif

The best statement ever - "Berbatov was offered more money at City, but chose United instead." Well said Paddy Crerand thumbup.gif


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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Oct 20 2010, 11:56 PM)
Waiting for Rooney's statement. What IF he says he's gonna stay at Man Utd for life. What's your reaction to that? brows.gif

The best statement ever - "Berbatov was offered more money at City, but chose United instead." Well said Paddy Crerand  thumbup.gif
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Wow... the Rooney thing is still going on. Lets talk bout tonight CL match with the Turks shall we?

Chica & Wayne to start up front!!
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no rooney....
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Wow... the Rooney thing is still going on. Lets talk bout tonight CL match with the Turks shall we?

Chica & Wayne  to start up front!!
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No wonder Sir Alex heartbroken. It just seems yesterday that these three play together. cry.gif
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Who knows? SAF n No10 could be making things up.

But i'd vouched for Owen to get a start in the line-up. Hehe
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Who knows? SAF n No10 could be making things up.

But i'd vouched for Owen to get a start in the line-up. Hehe
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y would they pull such a stunt for this kind of game? i really doubt that its fake.
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-----------------VDS---------------------

Rafael/O'Shea----Vida---Rio-----Evra------

Nani------Carrick----Fletch----Park----------

-------------Chica------Berba----------



or


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Rafael/Nev--------Vida----Smalling/Rio-------Evra

------------Carrick----Ando-----Gibbo/Scholes---------



Nani---------Berba-----------------Park/Obertan
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Park won't be featuring because he admits of his very poor form. So...

sheep319's Prediction Time™

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Rafael - Vida - Rio - Evra
Nani - Carrick - Scholes - Oberton/Rooney?!?!!?/Anderson
Hernandez - Berbatuf

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Who knows? SAF n No10 could be making things up.

But i'd vouched for Owen to get a start in the line-up. Hehe
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id fancy berba + chicarito and/or macheda since owen is also not available

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Does anybody watch this? This is news to me. lol biggrin.gif
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wayne rooney is saying he is leaving because united cant attract top players and do not match his own ambitions

bullshit excuse
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It's confirmed. Rooney's press conference says he wants to leave. sad.gif
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"I met with David Gill last week and he did not give me any of the assurances I was seeking about the future squad.

"I then told him that I would not be signing a new contract.

"I was interested to hear what Sir Alex had to say yesterday and surprised by some of it.

"It is absolutely true, as he said, that my agent and I have had a number of meetings with the club about a new contract. During those meetings in August I asked for assurances about the continued ability of the club to attract the top players in the world.

"I have never had anything but complete respect for MUFC. How could I not have done given its fantastic history and especially the last six years in which I have been lucky to play a part?

"For me its all about winning trophies - as the club has always done under Sir Alex. Because of that I think the questions I was asking were justified.

"Despite recent difficulties, I know I will always owe Sir Alex Ferguson a huge debt. He is a great manager and mentor who has helped and supported me from the day he signed me from Everton when I was only 18.

"For Manchester United's sake I wish he could go on forever because he's a one off and a genius."


you mean this one?

source -tweet plus goal.com biggrin.gif

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so basically his reason is utd are not able to attract big name players???


sigh.. a big SIGH
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Haha,at least this is settled. Reminds me of Lebron James.
Run along now Rooney,and be the 4th choice on whichever team you go to.
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and make sure you dont hit the door on the way out
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as an Arsenal fan, what can i say... i am surprised along with you guys at the maximum order
i cant believe rooney is saying this, after years in MU
he is one of those players which i presume was loyal to MU like Gerard to Liverpool
that has a part of the devils blood in him
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well, you guys still have aplenty of good strikers
Chicharito, definitely the men to step up
yet to see Bebe brilliance

but one thing is for sure you guys are not alone
we as Arsenal fan's deep down inside the heart,is prepared to offload fabregas some time next year, heck maybe even January
i reckon Liverpool fan's would feel the same for their players if they dont step up starting this week.

this Rooney issue comes out from no where, damnnnnnnn

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he is basically saying "I want to leave to club because we aren't going to win trophies"
what ungrateful person he is
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he is basically saying "I want to leave to club because we aren't going to win trophies"
what ungrateful person he is
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Ronaldo wouldn't even dare to say such a thing.
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as an Arsenal fan, what can i say... i am surprised along with you guys at the maximum order
i cant believe rooney is saying this, after years in MU
he is one of those players which i presume was loyal to MU like Gerard to Liverpool
that has a part of the devils blood in him
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well, you guys still have aplenty of good strikers
Chicharito, definitely the men to step up
yet to see Bebe brilliance

but one thing is for sure you guys are not alone
we as Arsenal fan's deep down inside the heart,is prepared to offload fabregas some time next year, heck maybe even January
i reckon Liverpool fan's would feel the same for their players if they dont step up starting this week.

this Rooney issue comes out from no where, damnnnnnnn
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Haha,exactly man. Really out of nowhere. Anyone who tells you otherwise,apart from those with connections in the club,is lying.
Kinda sad to see a player,who i believed,was gonna be a legend here wants to leave over some definite bullsh*t reason.

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Wait until Rooney signs for Manchester City and gave a comment about

"This is a right club for me and they are ambitious to win trophies"

and a giant poster ala Tevez.


I am pretty sure Roo will be the most hated figure in the eyes of Manchester United fans
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he aint complaning about his salary. ok, that is nice to see from him.
but come on, questioning about the future ? why not just do your part as a player and leave that to ferguson ? just because of that he aint gonna sign a new contract ? bollocks!
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line up:

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Rafael Smalling Vidic Evra
Nani Fletcher Carrick Anderson Park
KIko

Subs: Amos, Neville, O'Shea, Bebe, Obertan, Berbatov, Hernandez,

this game is SAF's 2,000th game in charge

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im quite suprised after hearing what Rooney said.

Man Utd doesn't need world class player i think.
their current players already world class...
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line up:

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Nani Fletcher Carrick Anderson Park
KIko
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Kiko to solo up front? interesting... drool.gif
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QUOTE(Quick` @ Oct 21 2010, 01:18 AM)
as an Arsenal fan, what can i say... i am surprised along with you guys at the maximum order
i cant believe rooney is saying this, after years in MU
he is one of those players which i presume was loyal to MU like Gerard to Liverpool
that has a part of the devils blood in him
ohmy.gif

well, you guys still have aplenty of good strikers
Chicharito, definitely the men to step up
yet to see Bebe brilliance

but one thing is for sure you guys are not alone
we as Arsenal fan's deep down inside the heart,is prepared to offload fabregas some time next year, heck maybe even January
i reckon Liverpool fan's would feel the same for their players if they dont step up starting this week.

this Rooney issue comes out from no where, damnnnnnnn
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to be honest i pitied you guys abt fabs too actually. but at least he kept his mouth shut abt barca and didnt brought down the value. what players need to do to their club is to make themselves worthy to be sold. thats the least they can do like cr7.

but now? respect to the club is not to discredit your manager in the media. he said he had respect then why did he disrespect SAF in the media? dont give us the crap abt not being able to attract players or whatever la. you want to go go la.
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isnt it 4-3-3 with nani, kiko and park up front ?
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Rafael/Nev--------Vida----Smalling/Rio-------Evra

------------Carrick----Ando-----Gibbo/Scholes---------
Nani---------Berba-----------------Park/Obertan
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Haha I'm partly right. Come on United. Let's bombarded them with goals biggrin.gif
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isnt it 4-3-3 with nani, kiko and park up front ?
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im quite suprised after hearing what Rooney said.

Man Utd doesn't need world class player i think.
their current players already world class...
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lousy excuse i would say...what Wayne just said means that he discard the basically same team last season, that worked around him, pumping passes to him to score the goals...and defended to the bitter end to ensure his goal wouldn't go to waste

just because "no star attracting power" he doesn't want to play for United? fine then....go Madrid, Chelsea, Barca, or even City....lots of stars there, some even rotting at the bench...

United doesn't need world class player, because we produce our own world class player, and Rooney was one of them, and he also forgot about that
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so rooney is saying that MU does not and cannot attract 'world class players'? i guess he's basically disrespecting all of the current players. Are they not world class? damn. no wonder they don't play so well
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seriously, his comments sums up his performance this season.
obviously this isnt the old rooney we know off and his change. ferguson, you may offload him in january and will try to get back the cash used to bought him.
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No wonder la ... budak baru nak naik. Kenal Rooney je.  whistling.gif
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what u mean dude, been supporting united since days of mark hughes n cantona. If u are disputing that we never had a blip once keano, beckham or rudd left, enlighten me. As i remember it, after all those 3 players left, the next 2 years(i think), we did not really win EPL. And u have to take into account that at that period we still have moolah and quite a complete squad even with their departure. Compared to now, u can't see how deep in the mud we are compared to back then?? blink.gif


My thoughts on the recent statement given by rooney, Basically he is saying that the club's ambition does not match his. Whether that is true or not is up to debate. Maybe its just an excuse for more money blah blah blah. However, it just goes to show that our recent transfer dealings doesn't really fills everyone with the vavavoom normally associated with a club the stature of united. Some of the poster here will argue that united does have WC player, but that is a matter of opinion. My take is, our current team is mostly filled with grafters with a dearth of players to make a difference in games.
The solution to this matter is simple. During the next transfer window, fergie could splash the cash, show rooney united are not so worse off than he thinks, then who knows, that prick rooney might extend his contract. Then we as fans will forgive n forget and continue to sing his praises.

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"For me its all about winning trophies - as the club has always done under Sir Alex. Because of that I think the questions I was asking were justified.


this is ridiculous.insane at most.if he wants to win trophies then is it a prerequisite that he has the so called big names????if its that then proves he isnt no where near a top pro.how big name is a big name???and is he implying that his current team mates are worthless jocks??

people depend on him knowing what he can do.so with this practically useless statement,what is he saying is that he is a coward spineless player who cant play with out having handicaps.

and now if its not true then this must some thing orchestrated by his money laundering agent.anyway its over and lets enjoy the 1st match of post "this lad" era.
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As sad as I am, I have totally lost the respect of once my hero of Manchester United.

Lets move on!!
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this is ridiculous.insane at most.if he wants to win trophies then is it a prerequisite that he has the so called big names????if its that then proves he isnt no where near a top pro.how big name is a big name???and is he implying that his current team mates are worthless jocks??

people depend on him knowing what he can do.so with this practically useless statement,what is he saying is that he is a coward spineless player who cant play with out having handicaps.

and now if its not true then this must some thing orchestrated by his money laundering agent.anyway its over and lets enjoy the 1st match of post "this lad" era.
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in summary, he chickened out when its his time to lead the squad after Ronaldo left.....
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Ok.... finally rooney had release a statement for his leaving...

as far as im concern, this is totally bollock from him... for me the assurance he is seeking is more towards whether his wages can go beyond what he is having currently..... after maybe receiving some offer from some other 'clubs'.... and obviously man utd did a right choice by not having it.... Man City is destroying the wage structure in EPL and so do real madrid... I wonder what is Yaya Toure or Tevez pay check in the next 5 years base on their rocket high salary they are having now....


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As sad as I am, I have totally lost the respect of once my hero of Manchester United.

Lets move on!!
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Is fine man, everyone have their idolise player... but we all knew the most important one is MANCHESTER UNITED!!!

In MANCHESTER UNITED WE TRUST!!!
IN FERGIE WE TRUST!!!

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the last star player i can remember fergie sign was Veron. turned out to be a major flop.
fergie learned from that and decided to only create a star, not buy one.
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We need to win this game to shut the critics....
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Not to shut the media but to prove to all other opponent and Rooney that Manchester United is still one of the major force. United! United! vmad.gif
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CHeck Nani out man! Talk about stepping up! biggrin.gif
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nani is stepping up! the team is playing world class gameee!! they're showing to WAYNE ROONEY that they are world class!! tongue.gif
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Okay we got our new hero smile.gif

Rooney who whistling.gif
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LOL omg. Tottenham is 3 goals down.
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Nice to see Nani stepping up. Let's seal this asap.
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So if Gomes gets red carded, who takes the position of keeper now ? sleep.gif
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No idea. Looking at livescore.

The players need to rally around SAF. Show some fire. Show some pride in themselves and their shirts. Fight and make this win big!!
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QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ Oct 21 2010, 03:04 AM)
No idea. Looking at livescore.

The players need to rally around SAF. Show some fire. Show some pride in themselves and their shirts. Fight and make this win big!!
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Yeah lets hope that it's a big win indeed!!
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QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ Oct 21 2010, 03:04 AM)
No idea. Looking at livescore.

The players need to rally around SAF. Show some fire. Show some pride in themselves and their shirts. Fight and make this win big!!
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/agree
i rarely post here but its time to show that it is the team, not the player which bring the wins and attracts attention of investors/ players
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CR = Out
Rooney = shines
Rooney = Out
Nani = shines
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Damn ... sounds like bursa has the upper hand now?

What happened?

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izit our fan or those turkish who make really loud sound?

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Damn ... sounds like bursa has the upper hand now?

What happened?
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rafael chased him and use his speed and tackle to def it..what a wonderfull run and defending is that.. wub.gif wub.gif
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the more i watch, the sleepier i get le... damn it.....

imagine no Nani, i wonder how the team will even get the goal or pace..
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Ok first half, not much to complain smile.gif

Hope for a good second half

edit : Lol spurs getting raped

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i demand more after this..
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Rafael consistence is getting up by the week goes.... He really learned not to simply tackle...
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our attack is still skewed towards the right flank...Park is still not that in shape, but better already compared to previous matches
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first 15minutes was the best. Then it turned slower slower slower i'm getting sleepy.
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Good enough for me, you don't expect them to keep running like the first 15 minutes for the rest of the game right? Lol

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i know nani is getting better..but that doesnt means every ball must be passed or crossed to nani..nani was heavily guarded by 2 or 3 players..but still/..the midfield pass the ball to him..what do u expect him to do..we still have left side as in park and evra who can cross the ball and do some overlapping...hope 2nd half will be even better biggrin.gif
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Don't have that 1goal and def all the way mentality. PLEASE.
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QUOTE(yfchin2 @ Oct 21 2010, 03:35 AM)
i know nani is getting better..but that doesnt means every ball must be passed or crossed to nani..nani was heavily guarded by 2 or 3 players..but still/..the midfield pass the ball to him..what do u expect him to do..we still have left side as in park and evra who can cross the ball and do some overlapping...hope 2nd half will be even better biggrin.gif
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As for rooney... after seeing his comment... I'm pretty sure he wont leave england ... and that leave him with either chelsea or shitty that can attract 'TOP' player....
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Which part did he say he won't leave england..? I just read it again,he doesnt really specify his preferred location..
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Which part did he say he won't leave england..? I just read it again,he doesnt really specify his preferred location..
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He's english. he's from liverpool. he only can speak one language and it is english with liverpool accent. so to Citeh he will. smile.gif

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it seems that his wife is against moving out of england.. and you know what they say about rooney not able to live outside of engalnd due to dont know what reasons i forgot...

ps: until now this match, bloody waste the fans ticket money..
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QUOTE(nazanto @ Oct 21 2010, 04:01 AM)
He's english. he's from liverpool. he only cant speak one language and it is english with liverpool accent. so to Citeh he will. smile.gif
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ffs. this is boring

adoi chica...

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besides some step over from Ober, 2nd half really zzz
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On another note,i just knew inter spurs match would finish 4-2,i swear! biggrin.gif

Eh 4-3 edi,wtf lolz Bale hattrick

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On another note,i just knew inter spurs match would finish 4-2,i swear! biggrin.gif

Eh 4-3 edi,wtf lolz Bale hattrick
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No complain from this match despite a bit boring.... Finally we saw the old Patrice Evra we know.... Smalling looks really good today... Obertan Stepsover... drool.gif and of coz the match winner Nani...Well played game...

Btw Anderson really need to steps up....
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Anderson should be given more role in the attack, let him have the ball more, he'd showed some potential just now...as for Macheda...same case as Berba, he needs a partner....
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Gareth Bale!!!! Gila wei....


Added on October 21, 2010, 4:40 amSeems that our chance of progressing early looks good after Ranger and Valencia drew their game...

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QUOTE(leongtat @ Oct 21 2010, 04:39 AM)
Gareth Bale!!!! Gila wei....


Added on October 21, 2010, 4:40 amSeems that our chance of progressing early looks good after Ranger and Valencia drew their game...
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Obertan was performing well... He should be given more chance in the future
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must f**king sign that boy vmad.gif . if we collect money can get 40 million o not? we know that club have no money so we give our own money la.
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QUOTE(dlct87 @ Oct 21 2010, 04:39 AM)
Anderson should be given more role in the attack, let him have the ball more, he'd showed some potential just now...as for Macheda...same case as Berba, he needs a partner....
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Btw Nani body's........ drool.gif

I'm not gay anyway...
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+1...

Btw Nani body's........ drool.gif

I'm not gay anyway...
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+1...

Btw Nani body's........ drool.gif

I'm not gay anyway...
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+1...

Btw Nani body's........ drool.gif

I'm not gay anyway...
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QUOTE(Pain_X @ Oct 21 2010, 04:45 AM)
CRAZY BODY,6 pack giler! (no homo)
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Ok off to bed... at last something to happy after the shit few week....
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good game imo, tho im sure it wont please every one.at least weve kept ourslef from repeating the mistakes weve been doing before.

a high tempo 1st half but went quite for the 2nd half.good to se park back in action and obertan too.tho the latter still needs more games in reserve.he still far away from a proper start in the senior side.looks to have bulked up a bit too.
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reporter :rooneys talk was about the ambition of the club"

SAF: "What is it, 30 odd trophys i've won?"

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reporter :rooneys talk was about the ambition of the club"

SAF: "What is it, 30 odd trophys i've won?"

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QUOTE(Pain_X @ Oct 21 2010, 04:45 AM)
CRAZY BODY,6 pack giler! (no homo)
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Added on October 21, 2010, 5:00 amTo sum up, it's not the best of performances, but it's a good start to the post-Rooney era..You are at the club for 5 years now and still don't know that lack of ambition and Man Utd doesn't come together..We will win trophies even in debt and without you...Bye Wayne

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ok...this body parts talk is tadbit weird from a mans point of view.... blink.gif
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bet ya all havent seen Ronaldo's abs in Armani's advert did ya?  tongue.gif


Added on October 21, 2010, 5:00 amTo sum up, it's not the best of performances, but it's a good start to the post-Rooney era..You are at the club for 5 years now and still don't know that lack of ambition and Man Utd doesn't come together..We will win trophies even in debt and without you...Bye Wayne
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Btw,all the excuses rooney is giving is utter BS. There's no way he can come out of this with any respect because he essentially disrespected and spit on his teammates,manager and fans. How dare he talk about ambition when he has won everything here. His job is to play and score (which he hasn't been doing for a good 6 months now) and let the manager decide the tactics. He doesnt have to concern himself with the running of the club.
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Rant on Wayne:
Unable to attract TOP players? Well, off you go then Wayne. Thanks for your contribution but no thanks for your attitude.

So, isn't it clear that Wayne unsettle the dressing rooms by claiming that United doesn't attract TOP players? What does he thinks of Scholesy, Giggsy or Rio then? Aren't they world class? Even Vidic as well.

We could easily sell those names for a hefty sum of money if we wanted to yet we didn't. So, Wayne gets really big headed. As if he's the only TOP player in the squad. What does he make of Evra? Berbatov or Nani?

Like you once were, Wayne, they(youngsters) need time. As Ronaldo did. As Beckham did. But neither of the latter two complained as you did. They worked on their laurels and be the best they can. Why the hell are you worried about the club's status? You aren't the manager, ffs. Your bollocks in claiming that you respect the club and SAF are lies.

Anyhoo, back to the game. 1-nil is good enough. It seems that with this win we are topping the table and another win should see us through the knock out stages.
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QUOTE(boxsystem @ Oct 21 2010, 05:06 AM)
Rant on Wayne:
Unable to attract TOP players? Well, off you go then Wayne. Thanks for your contribution but no thanks for your attitude.

So, isn't it clear that Wayne unsettle the dressing rooms by claiming that United doesn't attract TOP players? What does he thinks of Scholesy, Giggsy or Rio then? Aren't they world class? Even Vidic as well.

We could easily sell those names for a hefty sum of money if we wanted to yet we didn't. So, Wayne gets really big headed. As if he's the only TOP player in the squad. What does he make of Evra? Berbatov or Nani?

Like you once were, Wayne, they(youngsters) need time. As Ronaldo did. As Beckham did. But neither of the latter two complained as you did. They worked on their laurels and be the best they can. Why the hell are you worried about the club's status? You aren't the manager, ffs. Your bollocks in claiming that you respect the club and SAF are lies.

Anyhoo, back to the game. 1-nil is good enough. It seems that with this win we are topping the table and another win should see us through the knock out stages.
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Apparently. SAF made this comment post-Bursaspor-match.

Man United boss Sir Alex Ferguson: "I haven't read Wayne Rooney's statement, but we'll have a view on it tomorrow and probably put it to bed tomorrow. As I said, the door is open. We keep good players, particularly when they are that young. He wants assurances? Have I won 30 trophies or what?!"

From a Redcafe fellow : Excellent comment from Fergie. Stick that in your pipe you f***er Rooney. It was only last season we finished one point from the league, and really should have made the CL final, plus we won the Carling Cup. Such a spoiled f***er Rooney.

Agreed!!
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hmmm. ok match... at least we won.

Rooney:
1) Issue press release a few hours before the game - this is an example of not respecting the club, the selfish prick. wait 4-5 hours until after the match cannot issit?

2) Club's lack of ambition – good excuse, but bollocks. Wether Man utd got lack of funds is one thing, but last season the team around him were good enough to allow him to become player of the year. But now, this season, the same team is not good enough for his ambitions? You think that if you got 'world class' team-mates you will have a better season than last year (minus injury)?

Oh wait... your performance last season was all on your own effort only, right?

3) I suspect rooney is a bit too gullible, and has been listening to a lot of poisoned advice from others around him.


Good luck Rooney, and don't let the door hit you on the way out.
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Just let him go, we wont want a player like him, real stupid... i always thought he is one of the few loyal man utd players... but truely... not at all.. pure excuse...freaking stupid..
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Rooney is complaining that we r not buying world class players ,y dont he realize that we make top players and he is one of them .he is just making lame excuses the real reason is he wants money.
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c'mon guys, lets take a break, lets hve a joke or 2... maybe neville should show the same passion of love to rooney as he did to scholes...


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so easy we dont sign / attract best players and he want to move on.... semua orang boleh bagi alasan ini... dem it
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Rooney will become Gascoigne 2!

His excuses are lame, Mancini is waiting to grab him.. after 8 years of superlative performances, I don see how a club like Man City can revitalise Rooney's career..

Rooney! U r 'Rooined'!!!

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We had a player that once said to me Rooney and Ronaldo weren’t good enough. Can you believe that? He actually said they weren’t good enough and he wasn’t prepared to wait until they were - who? RVN?

We will invest in players when the time is ready. This summer wasn’t the right time as far as I was concerned; there was no value for me. There was one player who we would have liked to have got but he chose another club. I don’t think he ever wanted to come to England anyway - sounds like we're buying in Jan! tongue.gif

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No offend hey but the lame excuse Rooney was using cannot be put in Manchester United, from that statement, i thought he suppose to be an Arsenal player. tongue.gif

Ambition? If he choose to go to MC, all his intention will reveal itself, if want more money just say so, no need to talk all craps just want to leave the club.
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the performance of the play during the match yesterday was questionable.

We dominate the first 15 minutes, and after we got the 1st goal, we "turn off mode". Instead of attacking, we get press up and hardly get chance to attack. Credit to Bursaspor player, after they gets their composure, press our team, inability to pressure the defence and attack relentlessly.

I think most of you seen the part whereby we basically at the opponent area trying to attack and attack but output is no where. We just passing the ball around, heading around..

The team is lacking of desire.

Fell asleep after 2nd half started and did not complete the match. But the first half performance should be a wake up call. I don't see the PASSION to ATTACK and kill off the game.

Also, we did not utilise the header boys enough. Look at how many chances and the air ball was the weakness of the Bursaspor goalie.

Nevertheless, we have no reason to happy about with the winning "performance" although we won the game.

As for Rooney, he can F off as far as I am concern. Thanks but no goodbye.
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Mehh I guess what he meant by ambitions would be fat paychecks, ltrs Judas.


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QUOTE(stevanistelrooy @ Oct 21 2010, 08:19 AM)
the performance of the play during the match yesterday was questionable.

We dominate the first 15 minutes, and after we got the 1st goal, we "turn off mode". Instead of attacking, we get press up and hardly get chance to attack. Credit to Bursaspor player, after they gets their composure, press our team, inability to pressure the defence and attack relentlessly.

I think most of you seen the part whereby we basically at the opponent area trying to attack and attack but output is no where. We just passing the ball around, heading around..

The team is lacking of desire.

Fell asleep after 2nd half started and did not complete the match. But the first half performance should be a wake up call. I don't see the PASSION to ATTACK and kill off the game.

Also, we did not utilise the header boys enough. Look at how many chances and the air ball was the weakness of the Bursaspor goalie.

Nevertheless, we have no reason to happy about with the winning "performance" although we won the game.

As for Rooney, he can F off as far as I am concern. Thanks but no goodbye.
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Nemanja Vidic admits the Wayne Rooney saga is not helping Manchester United, but insists they must put it to one side.

The Red Devils have been rocked by the revelation that their talismanic frontman is looking for a switch elsewhere.

He claims the ambitions of the club heading forward do not live up to his own and believes he needs to move on in order to satisfy his craving for silverware.

The issue is set to drag on until at least January, when the transfer window re-opens, but could linger around Old Trafford until next summer if a deal is not reached in the New Year.

United could do without such a distraction at present as they have made a less than inspiring start in their Premier League title bid and have looked rusty at times in Europe.

They did, however, claim a 1-0 victory over Bursaspor in the UEFA Champions League on Wednesday and look good bets to reach the knockout stages.

Vidic, though, is aware that any future success could rest on their ability to get their house back in order and resolve the Rooney issue one way or another.

Focus

"There has been so much talk about Wayne Rooney and there is not much focus on the game and on the football," the Serbian centre-half told Sky Sports after skippering United to victory in midweek.

"We tried to keep our concentration high, keep winning and make it easier for us."

Vidic acknowledges that Rooney is not the first player to become embroiled in a contract dispute, leading to intense transfer speculation.

He is, however, keen to point out that the matter cannot be allowed to cast a cloud over life at Old Trafford, with the players doing their utmost to avoid discussing the England international's future on the training ground.

"This time it is an exception with Wayne, but it's happened before with players negotiating with clubs about their contract and a lot of talk in the papers," he added.

"We are just trying to train and not speak too much with each other because we don't want to take the focus from the games on the pitch. This is the case with Wayne as well."

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Rooney can F off to whatever hole he crawled out of to begin with. Lack of ambition, my ass. Lacking in money, yeah, but who the hell can compete with Manchester Cities and Chelskis? Anyway, even with all that debt hanging over our heads we are still in the title hunt, let down only by dodgy defending & freak goals since the beginning of the season. Oh, and Chelski's had such an easy start, I wonder whether they have a mole in the Premier League office.

He does not realise what a privilege it is to play for Manchester United. I would give my left nut to play just a game for the Red Devils. I would also give my right nut to play as long as Scholesy and Giggs. But I don't think my nuts are that valuable to Alex Ferguson. Unfortunately.
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This is your answer.

Vidic admits Rooney distraction
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This is what I mean about Rooney doing the worst things possible in order to leave.
For f*cks sake, you want to leave for whatever reasons, is your right. But do it in the right way, dun screw up your team and burn bridges by like this.

For Fergie to come out and say so many things, it tells you how much damage Rooney is doing to the team morale and concentration.

One thing is clear now – Rooney may love to win. He may love fat paychecks and whores and himself, but he sure as hell doesn't love man utd or any of his teammates.
What a mercenary.

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f*** off for good rooney,
at least tevez still gave his all on the field whenever he played for us even though he set his mind to leave.
rooney on the other hand can see on the field his mind is somewhere else.
bloody greedy f***a...after all that the club has given him.
and jz last year he said he want to be like giggs/scholes. lmao.
i look back at keano,stam,rvn,beckham,ronaldo, and even f***in tevez's time here wit sweet memories, but i can't say the same for rooney. this is more like a betrayal. all the good things he has done for us has been undone. i can't imagine a united fan that could forgive him for this. f*** off as far as possible. united will thrive with or without u.

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Can't attract top player to the club. Come on Rooney, even if you have 11 top players in a team and 11 of them can't gel into a team is also the same. It's all about team work.
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I removed Rooney from my siggy

Its funny that he is blaming Man Utd's ambition. Had he be in form & played his job right, we might not be in this kind situation at the moment. 1 point from the title last year is not enough ambition? Stupid...stupid...stupid. I 1 year he makes 2 stupid decisions. 1) Screwing around with a prostitute 2) Leaving Man Utd. What are the odds on that?

David Villa was loyal to Valencia for how many years without winning a title? & he left them only because Valencia is in dire straits.

Rooney has really become a show off. Forgotten who he was 4 years ago. Just leave. He's lowering the morale of our team & I don't like it. What the team needs now is full support from seniors not a cry baby.
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QUOTE(odieseven @ Oct 21 2010, 08:51 AM)
I removed Rooney from my siggy

Its funny that he is blaming Man Utd's ambition. Had he be in form & played his job right, we might not be in this kind situation at the moment. 1 point from the title last year is not enough ambition? Stupid...stupid...stupid. I 1 year he makes 2 stupid decisions. 1) Screwing around with a prostitute 2) Leaving Man Utd. What are the odds on that?

David Villa was loyal to Valencia for how many years without winning a title? & he left them only because Valencia is in dire straits.

Rooney has really become a show off. Forgotten who he was 4 years ago. Just leave. He's lowering the morale of our team & I don't like it. What the team needs now is full support from seniors not a cry baby.
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I can't believe I'm saying this...but I'd rather keep O'Shea than Rooney..at least O'Shea's loyal to the club.
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so now we move from berba haters to rooney haters?
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Rooney cheated my feeling for all this years. Betrayed =/
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Berba never wants to leave the club...Maybe it should be from Tevez haters to Rooney haters tongue.gif


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Rooney cheated my feeling for all this years. Betrayed =/
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QUOTE(odieseven @ Oct 21 2010, 08:56 AM)
Berba never wants to leave the club...Maybe it should be from Tevez haters to Rooney haters tongue.gif


Added on October 21, 2010, 8:56 am

Yeah...that's the right word...Not hate but felt betrayed
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Isnt there's berba haters band wagon last time when he played like crap? no? laugh.gif
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thie mornin game.. the midfield passing is crap...
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Oh wai-

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Isnt there's berba haters band wagon last time when he played like crap? no? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Envoy @ Oct 21 2010, 05:33 AM)
Rooney is complaining that we r not buying world class players ,y dont he realize that we make top players and he is one of them .he is just making lame excuses the real reason is he wants money.
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Exactly the point i try to make... As if he is not one of the young talent that Fergie had nurture all this while...
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Old Trafford: Giant Rooney banner taken down

The best pic in the last two days for me...


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Chicharito and Berbatov up then biggrin.gif
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lol. Everybody's a whore to rooney.

Whichever club buy him better be careful and see him for what he is.
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how I wish every player is like this guy. I miss having him in the squad. Sigh
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QUOTE(razorboy @ Oct 21 2010, 09:40 AM)
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how I wish every player is like this guy. I miss having him in the squad. Sigh
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And thats why he is on my avatar, my friend.. Ole wub.gif .. he's got class.. unlike Mr.Ruined
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yea...the club lack of ambitious...oni u got the ambitious thats why the club doesnt suit for u...u can feck off wit ur ambitious and play ur world class ball in the bed wit ur ambitious prostitute....pigi mampus la....all the top players left BUT no one ever says the club lack of ambitious...u little ungrateful twat...
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Hodgson fears Torres switch

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LIVERPOOL manager Roy Hodgson has admitted striker Fernando Torres could jump ship for Manchester United if they lose their own prize asset, Wayne Rooney.

Torres has emerged as the most likely target for Sir Alex Ferguson if, as expected, the United manager grants Rooney’s wish to leave Old Trafford.

“I think I’d have to say we’d cross that bridge when we come to it,” said Hodgson.

“I am pretty sure when a great player like Wayne Rooney is looking to leave his club, Manchester United will be in a position to target an awful lot of players around the world.

“I am not naive enough to think there is no danger we will ever lose a player like Fernando Torres. I can only hope we won’t and I will make certain I do everything in my power to keep him happy at the club.”


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Sweat sweat.gif i really never see a manager to comment that way.... about his player... but if it true... drool.gif
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The difference between Shrek Ever Ever after and Rooney is that, Shrek gets to go back to his former life after learning his lesson. Rooney? Can go F*** himself

*although they do look similar

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But a switch from Liverpool to its fiercest rival seems unrealistic..... it will be hard enough.....

Well, Rooney..... disappointing but let's face the fact... Please leave!
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Mancini says that SAF's years of domination is coming to an end....LOL...well SAF dominate like 20++ years already....haha
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QUOTE(razorboy @ Oct 21 2010, 09:40 AM)
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how I wish every player is like this guy. I miss having him in the squad. Sigh
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the baby face super sub...
while kiko showed some glimpse of it, i kinda missed having a consistent one in the squad...
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Sweat sweat.gif i really never see a manager to comment that way.... about his player... but if it true...  drool.gif
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Aiya stop dreaming la.. Liverpool wont sell us a VIRUS!!
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Mancini is only in a position to challenge because he's got almost unlimited cash backing him. Which other club can afford to pay 220k a week for bloody Yaya Toure??
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QUOTE(verbatim @ Oct 21 2010, 09:51 AM)
Aiya stop dreaming la.. Liverpool wont sell us a VIRUS!!
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ade duit ade ambition...celaka Rooney
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QUOTE(verbatim @ Oct 21 2010, 09:32 AM)
Old Trafford: Giant Rooney banner taken down

The best pic in the last two days for me...
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in website still got his pic.. they should remove it also
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QUOTE(verbatim @ Oct 21 2010, 09:51 AM)
Aiya stop dreaming la.. Liverpool wont sell us a VIRUS!!
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/point owen (though its not direct)

though i think they rather sell it cheap to other clubs than us...
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QUOTE(tatabun @ Oct 18 2010, 09:18 PM)
sniff sniff i smell torr... sniff sniff....
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mhm aha mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
wut?
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i just wish chicarito and berbatov will step up...

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