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SUStatabun
post Oct 21 2010, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(verbatim @ Oct 21 2010, 10:51 AM)
Aiya stop dreaming la.. Liverpool wont sell us a VIRUS!!
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it can happen eventually.. biggrin.gif
still at least torres has some dignity in him.
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QUOTE(vincent_lms_3366 @ Oct 21 2010, 08:49 AM)
Can't attract top player to the club. Come on Rooney, even if you have 11 top players in a team and 11 of them can't gel into a team is also the same. It's all about team work.
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man city are very ambitious club..yet they dont even win the league cup
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QUOTE(tatabun @ Oct 21 2010, 10:00 AM)
it can happen eventually..  biggrin.gif
still at least torres has some dignity in him.
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u guys think Liverpool will eventually sell him to us??? After wat SAF did with Heinze?? They will prefer to see Torres rot on the bench than selling him to us.. Of course having Torres is a dream, it will remain a dream unless Torres goes to another club, and comes from there.. But I wudnt want to have him, remember his tatoo?

He is a great player, but he will never be a United faithful...

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QUOTE(verbatim @ Oct 21 2010, 10:03 AM)
u guys think Liverpool will eventually sell him to us??? After wat SAF did with Heinze?? They will prefer to see Torres rot on the bench than selling him to us.. Of course having Torres is a dream, it will remain a dream unless Torres goes to another club, and comes from there.. But I wudnt want to have him, remember his tatoo?

He is a great player, but he will never  be a United faithful...
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to be frank, he is not really in the correct form as well so i rather not risk it even if pool is willing to sell it to us
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QUOTE(angel-face @ Oct 21 2010, 09:55 AM)
ade duit ade ambition...celaka Rooney
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Need not angry..

We had Beckham, Keano, Ruud, Ronaldo left us..

We have the experience to manage the situation.... and the situation will get better....

Thru thick/thin we stick together.

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QUOTE(odieseven @ Oct 21 2010, 08:54 AM)
I can't believe I'm saying this...but I'd rather keep O'Shea than Rooney..at least O'Shea's loyal to the club.
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why cant you believe you're saying that?
O'shea's not good enough in your opinion? sleep.gif
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yeah it's time for berba"top" & others... btw, love berba's positive attitude even when he's not playing that well. rooney should learn from him.
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post Oct 21 2010, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(verbatim @ Oct 21 2010, 11:03 AM)
u guys think Liverpool will eventually sell him to us??? After wat SAF did with Heinze?? They will prefer to see Torres rot on the bench than selling him to us.. Of course having Torres is a dream, it will remain a dream unless Torres goes to another club, and comes from there.. But I wudnt want to have him, remember his tatoo?

He is a great player, but he will never  be a United faithful...
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heinze brings back memories user posted imageuser posted image from a captain to a transfer request and the puffff he is gone

all i know about his tattoos are about lord of the ring language biggrin.gif

you have a point though, still i am open to any possibilities because he is already 26 and the next transfer might be the last one for him to be setteled in IF that is, IF Liverpool remain with their current form
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Why would fergie think of getting someone who had 'You'll Never Walk Alone' embedded on his captain armband while at Atl.Madrid? And after those name calling towards torres, i dont think United faithful would like to see him in United colours..

Certainly not me...
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Ferguson: I won't allow Rooney to ruin season

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Sir Alex Ferguson and his chief executive David Gill will stage emergency talks this morning to find a way of drawing a line under the deepening Wayne Rooney crisis which the manager now believes is threatening to derail Manchester United's season.

Gill spoke at length to the United owners the Glazer family last night and he and Ferguson will meet at 10am to decide whether to put Rooney on the transfer list and get him out of the club by January. Ferguson ridiculed a suggestion after the 1-0 Champions League win against Bursaspor last night that Rooney would be suspended for casting aspersions on the quality of his squad in a statement issued two hours before the match. But the manager and the club are incensed by Rooney's declaration that he doubts "the continued ability of the club to attract the top players in the world" and "win trophies."

Ferguson said the issue would be "put to bed" today. "I've only won 27 trophies," was his wry riposte to Rooney's challenge and for the second time in as many days Ferguson also launched a passionate defense of his decision to invest in a new generation of young players, rather than buy in more experienced names.

Rooney's 230-word statement, which at around 5.40pm confirmed his desire to leave United, was centred on the most credible argument available to him: that the club's ambitions do not match his own. The 24-year-old directly questioned the accuracy – and honesty - of Ferguson's account on Tuesday of events leading to his anticipated departure. While the United manager said he was "dumbfounded" to find that Rooney's mind was set on 14 August, when Gill was informed of the decision by the player's agent Paul Stretford, the player's account of a meeting with Gill last week suggests he has given them much longer to convince him of their ambition. He also declared there were have been "a number of meetings" since August, when he has pressed the same point.

Rooney's statement alludes to his "recent difficulties" with Ferguson – also contradicting the manager's claim that there had been no personal problems between them. By subtly linking Ferguson's inevitable retirement to his concerns about the future, he reinforces his own case. "For Manchester United's sake I wish he could go on forever because he's a one-off and a genius."

But Ferguson ratcheted up this extraordinary public battle, with a powerful and idiosyncratic late night explanation of why Rooney should have invested faith in his proven ability to spot talent and why the grass might not be as green as the striker really thinks it will be at Manchester City. "Sometimes you look in a field and you see a cow and you think it's a better cow than the one you've got in the field," Ferguson said. "It never really works out that way. It's probably the same cow and its not as good as your own cow. Some players like to think there's a better world somewhere else. It never really works."

As metaphors goes, it was about as memorable as Eric Cantona's "seagulls follow the trawler" story, though and it was accompanied by Ferguson's revelation that a lack of belief in his judgement in the transfer market had once persuaded a player – possibly Roy Keane – to leave because he thought Rooney and Cristiano Ronaldo were not good enough. "He was not prepared to wait until they were good enough," Ferguson said.

"But that's the trouble with potential," he went on. "People don't identify potential. They're very poor at it. I've identified it all my life – the potential in young people. I know potential. I know how to develop and have faith in young people, who surprise you when given the opportunity and that's what this club is all about. When you see Manchester United at the moment with all these young players, 14 under 22, you can't see Manchester United three years ahead."

The manager reiterated, with more detail than before, that he had attempted to make a marquee signing – believed to be Valencia's David Villa – this summer though the player had not wanted to play in England. He concluded that there was no problem with United. "There's not a thing wrong with Manchester United – not a thing wrong with it. So we will carry on, goodnight." But Rooney remains unconvinced by the ambition of a club who have spent less than £50m in total since the £80m departure of Cristiano Ronaldo to Real Madrid last year.

Rooney's alluded to the "ability" of United to spend, rather than an unwillingness, a suggestion that their totemic player shares the view – vehemently denied by United – that the club's financial position has left them floundering. The Liverpool manager Roy Hodgson's indifferent response last night to suggestions that Ferguson may come calling for Fernando Torres –"these things happen. We'll cross that bridge when we come to it," he said – will reinforce United's belief that their initial inquiries about the play may bear fruit.

Asked about the perceived shift in the balance of power between the two Manchester clubs, City manager Roberto Mancini said: "Life changes. I don't think one club can win [dominate] for 100 or 15 years. It is impossible for a club to continue that. It was the same situation a few years ago at Chelsea , and maybe 10-15 years ago at United. All clubs who can spend money get this criticism."


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post Oct 21 2010, 10:33 AM

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i still hope that he will stay.but if he go i won't be too dissapointed about the fact that he is leaving us.but the way he leave us that make me sad.bring us some positive news in the meeting today.but if he go to madrid lets trade him for kaka.and also i wouldn't mind having torres in the squad.he's a top class striker and proven in BPL.In sir alex we trust.COME ON UNITED!
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Guys guys, lets take off the heat for a moment.. its our captain's birthday today!





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post Oct 21 2010, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(scofield @ Oct 21 2010, 10:26 AM)
Why would fergie think of getting someone who had 'You'll Never Walk Alone' embedded on his captain armband while at Atl.Madrid? And after those name calling towards torres, i dont think United faithful would like to see him in United colours..

Certainly not me...
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well actually his armband wrote "We'll never walk alone"....

but any way, United is full on the striker department, now the most important is someone to step up to ease the playmaking job on Nani's shoulder....he will have to need a break after so many consecutive matches, maybe Ando?
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QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ Oct 21 2010, 10:06 AM)
why cant you believe you're saying that?
O'shea's not good enough in your opinion? sleep.gif
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I'm comparing O'Shea with Rooney there...Do you seriously think that O'Shea's a better player than Rooney? A football team has 11 men. One has to be better than the other.
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post Oct 21 2010, 10:52 AM

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Fergie press conference..
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based on yesterday's game, the midfield still looks like the most serious problem we have.

Ando + Fletcher is ineffective. Fletcher plays his heart out, but is limited in ability, and he only shines in some games.

Ando... i dunno wether we should keep giving him game time in the hopes that he will improve. Absolutely horrible passing last night, not to mention no ingenuity/killer passes moving forward.

Unfortunately, all the big name midfielders are all settled in their clubs, and it is unlikely we can find any top class midfielder in short order. Hope SAF is looking through the list of hidden gems his scouts have compiled.
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yes, normally those matches, a 3-0 easy win will happen in the past ...
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Happy Bday to Vidic!
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ouch...i dont watch last match. today got to work lorrr...

i read all thread post backward..

player distracted in game last night?


BTW...i see all rage towards WR.. shocking.gif

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QUOTE(fhunkyfhinky @ Oct 21 2010, 11:02 AM)
BTW...i see all rage towards WR.. shocking.gif
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To be fair, who wouldn't? First, the timing of the whole saga and not to mentioned he chosen that timing which is just few hours before our European match to release his own statement. Its the way he made it happened that pissed most of us off. Had he do it the CR way, we will respect his decision and move on.

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Rooney's 230-word statement, which at around 5.40pm confirmed his desire to leave United


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"I have never had anything but complete respect for the club. How could I not have done given its fantastic history and especially the last six years in which I have been lucky to play a part?


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/t...utd/9112052.stm

I am sorry but I doubt anyone can see any RESPECT you have towards the gaffer and the club judging by the way this whole mess panned out.

Nani pledges more goals

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Nani grabbed his fourth goal of the season to secure victory over Bursaspor on Wednesday night, and he’s pledged there are plenty more where that came from.

The Portuguese winger’s goal after seven minutes against Turkey’s champions is further proof that he is now less about potential, more about potency. Nani is adding a handful of goals to a fistful of assists to become an increasingly influential force in the team – and his confidence, naturally, is up.

“It’s a great feeling,” he said of helping to clinch three important Champions League points for the Reds.

But rather than chasing personal glory, he’s seeking collective triumphs. “I’ve scored a few goals this season and I want to score more,” he told MUTV. “I am working hard every day to be strong and more consistent. But mostly I hope my performances are important to the team. The most important thing is that the team wins.”

Nani has continued the impressive end to the 2009/10 campaign by racing out of the blocks in 2010/11. “I wanted to score more goals this season. I don’t want to set myself any targets. I don’t want to say anything about that – I just want to work hard and see how well I do by the end of the season.”

United are now in a commanding position in Group C – top and two points clear of second-placed Rangers – and Nani is keen to kick on and wrap up qualification to the knockout stages with a win in Turkey in two weeks’ time. “We have been doing well in the Champions League,” he added. “We haven’t lost a game and we’re in a very good position now. We are looking forward to the next game and we want to win it.”


http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid=...&newsid=6652974

Hats off to him for carry on his form from last season nod.gif

Kiko hungry for more action

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After putting in a sweat-soaked shift as United's lone striker against Bursaspor, Kiko Macheda is eager to prove that he can ably step up to regular first team involvement.

The furore over Wayne Rooney's future - and his ankle injury - have thrust the Italian youngster up the pecking order and, although he didn't score against the Turkish champions, Macheda is keen to keep playing and improving.

"I need to get minutes and games, and hopefully I'll get better with every game," he told MUTV. "I'm sorry for him (Rooney), but if the manager chooses me for games I'll be ready to show what I can do.

"It's good to get a game. I could have scored, I wanted to score because I'm a striker and I like goals, but I'm happy for the performance. I did a lot of work. I was running behind and I wish I had more chances to score goals, but it's ok.

"It was hard obviously because to be on your own you need support from midfield and the wings, but I think I did well and just didn't score."

Allied to Rangers' draw with Valencia, victory puts United in control of Group C in the Champions League, and Macheda is now focused on Sunday's Premier League trip to Stoke.

"We're very happy about the win. We have seven points and a great chance to win the group," said the Italian. "Now we have to concentrate on Sunday. We're going to work hard and hopefully win."


http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid=...&newsid=6652972

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