Don't forget how much it would also affect the fans. Team morale relies on fan support too. If the fans get wind that the 30-40 mil we'd get from the Rooney sale would go to service debts (or rumored to), surely the green and gold movement would be up and running again splitting camps and disrupting the team's concentration.

I just hope that Rooney's change of mind is not affecting the others in the dressing room. There might be those who would start thinking that United is a team in decline and would start calling their agents this summer. A lot of writers are attributing Rooney's attitude to the fact that United has not shown much interest in the transfer market since the Ronaldo sale. Although SAF has repeatedly mentioned that he didn't see any value in it, it might have placed a seed in Rooney's mind that perhaps United doesn't have what it takes to compete with RM, Chelsea, Barcelona, and MC in the transfer market. His refusal to sign on August 14 coincidentally fell just a few days after the Bebe buy.

Tell you guys what, we've sold the best of them before, we've rebuilt and gotten better. If it takes 4-5 years, or longer than that; even after SAF is gone and we're playing in the lower divisions. My kids, my grandchildren and me:

UNITED FOR LIFE

Got media reposts say that rooney is also upset that the club is not buying enough top stars, and that he is fed-up of 'carrying' the team for another year. If it is true, then I got one thing to say:

Kepala hotak kau rooney.

When did he ever 'carry' the team? The closest to it was last season, but I wouldn't say he was the only one who performed well last season.
Not enough big name signings? When was the last time SAF signed a big name at the peak of his game? SAF style is always look for value for money, and hidden talents to mould. So wat you complaining about?

If he reallly sees himself as a man utd player, he shouldn't be even upset about any of this, and concentrate on what he can contribute to the team.

u hv been reading too much Red Cafe, arent you ?

the only way i see it now is SAF is forcing him out. To me, that is the way SAF runs his ship in MU. That is why he is so successful.  I see a similar pattern to how RVN was force out.

To me, Rooney is a great player for us.  His energy and character really epitomized the team spirit.  We are certainly lacking in this department this season.  Our play are mundane and often lack the determination.

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But ferguson has never don publicly to asked for a player to stay when they want to out...

just my 2cent. If what is reported is true, n that rooney does not wanna play abroad, chances are he is gonna join our rival. (Namely either chelsea or city). No matter how i try to be optimistic, ultimately what will happen is we are gonna lose our talismatic striker, enrich our rival without getting the what rooney is worth (contract less than 2 years to go, summore have to pay 25% to everton), and the scarcity of like for like replacement in terms of quality. We will be consoling ourself by putting our faith on unproven player like macheda n hernandez to step up to the plate.

To be frank, if he really were to leave, we can say goodbye to the EPL trophy for the next 2 to 3 years as we enters a transitional period. I am not saying that without rooney, our team are crap, just that it paints a bad picture for the club, that one of our most influential player is leaving just as he is entering his prime. 4 of our influential player most probably retiring this summer.  Our most recent transfer investment does not look rosy either, with the lack of investment on proven players. It might be a turn off for players.

Ultimately, man utd as a club will survive this fiasco with or without rooney, but hark ye, dark times are ahead. Anyone saying otherwise are either a fool or too optimistic

Actually its sad to hear this about Rooney. im one of those people that never thought rooney will leave the club ever. the thought of seeing him playing in either blue jersey of chelsea or city, really makes me sad and also angry at the same time.

but looking towards the future, we will be going into a transitional period for sure whether we like it or not. we all know vds,neville, scholes and giggs will be out of the team by next year or even earlier so. then what we hv got left? quite many unproven youngsters that wouldn't be able to fulfill the roles left by the golden oldies.

And also looking at our debts problem, it is said that few more years down the road we will end up like liverpool and like it or not,glazer hv to sell the club. and give and take few more seasons, we all know Sir Alex Ferguson will be retiring soon. He had manage the club for so long and already develop a playing system which suits every player in the club. we have to get a new coach, and a world class one at that too , to run the club from start.

Thats what i personally think for the long term and coming. This season, already throwing 10 points away give Chelsea dn even city an early advantage. Winning trophy or not this season, we will go into a restructuring period in terms of management and etc soon.

ps: For those who care, here ,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVlSsxNZgg0
yes, lets panic!!!

erm...at UK still studying... why??

the performance of the play during the match yesterday was questionable.

We dominate the first 15 minutes, and after we got the 1st goal, we "turn off mode". Instead of attacking, we get press up and hardly get chance to attack. Credit to Bursaspor player, after they gets their composure, press our team, inability to pressure the defence and attack relentlessly.

I think most of you seen the part whereby we basically at the opponent area trying to attack and attack but output is no where. We just passing the ball around, heading around..

The team is lacking of desire.

Fell asleep after 2nd half started and did not complete the match. But the first half performance should be a wake up call. I don't see the PASSION to ATTACK and kill off the game.

Also, we did not utilise the header boys enough. Look at how many chances and the air ball was the weakness of the Bursaspor goalie.

Nevertheless, we have no reason to happy about with the winning "performance" although we won the game.

As for Rooney, he can F off as far as I am concern. Thanks but no goodbye.

Nemanja Vidic admits the Wayne Rooney saga is not helping Manchester United, but insists they must put it to one side.

The Red Devils have been rocked by the revelation that their talismanic frontman is looking for a switch elsewhere.

He claims the ambitions of the club heading forward do not live up to his own and believes he needs to move on in order to satisfy his craving for silverware.

The issue is set to drag on until at least January, when the transfer window re-opens, but could linger around Old Trafford until next summer if a deal is not reached in the New Year.

United could do without such a distraction at present as they have made a less than inspiring start in their Premier League title bid and have looked rusty at times in Europe.

They did, however, claim a 1-0 victory over Bursaspor in the UEFA Champions League on Wednesday and look good bets to reach the knockout stages.

Vidic, though, is aware that any future success could rest on their ability to get their house back in order and resolve the Rooney issue one way or another.

Focus

"There has been so much talk about Wayne Rooney and there is not much focus on the game and on the football," the Serbian centre-half told Sky Sports after skippering United to victory in midweek.

"We tried to keep our concentration high, keep winning and make it easier for us."

Vidic acknowledges that Rooney is not the first player to become embroiled in a contract dispute, leading to intense transfer speculation.

He is, however, keen to point out that the matter cannot be allowed to cast a cloud over life at Old Trafford, with the players doing their utmost to avoid discussing the England international's future on the training ground.

"This time it is an exception with Wayne, but it's happened before with players negotiating with clubs about their contract and a lot of talk in the papers," he added.

"We are just trying to train and not speak too much with each other because we don't want to take the focus from the games on the pitch. This is the case with Wayne as well."

I removed Rooney from my siggy

Its funny that he is blaming Man Utd's ambition. Had he be in form & played his job right, we might not be in this kind situation at the moment. 1 point from the title last year is not enough ambition? Stupid...stupid...stupid. I 1 year he makes 2 stupid decisions. 1) Screwing around with a prostitute 2) Leaving Man Utd. What are the odds on that?

David Villa was loyal to Valencia for how many years without winning a title? & he left them only because Valencia is in dire straits.

Rooney has really become a show off. Forgotten who he was 4 years ago. Just leave. He's lowering the morale of our team & I don't like it. What the team needs now is full support from seniors not a cry baby.

Oh wai-

Isnt there's berba haters band wagon last time when he played like crap? no?

Im not sure if there's a replacement or even an ideal one at that .

Rooney, no matter you hate him now or not, its no secret is he an exceptional talent. And im sad that we only got two see 1 season of him in top form playing in the hole(fox in the box striker). Was excited to see him play this season, sekali mana tau the unthinkable happened out of nowhere.

He passion and drive is brilliant and one of his best qualities. For a striker, his passes and vision i would say its top 3 at least.

Of course, in few years time or even now, we would not be searching a Rooney's replacement only. Ask yourself, the players you guys wanted and hope to be in the United squad, where are they all now?
And then, what is left?

You'll never know the future. Take Fletcher for instance. He was rubbish at first. fergie kept faith in him and turned out to be a good player. Players take time to settle. Just like Evra and Vida when they came here.

We have all these young prospects. I'm pretty sure at least one of them will make the step up.

haha im sure most of us will bro, he aint ordinary player. ppl will be lying if they say they wont miss him playing for us. tbh, he is our only gem left in the squad or superstar if you will.

Harsh...

of course, because he didn't want out. he wanted to stay, but RM refused to let him stay (or renew his contract I think) so hence he's in Schalke now.

Rooney now, is unbelievable.

he's an iconic legend, even at such a young age, but he wants out. Ronaldo is a bit similar, but at least he never said he wants to leave. He just said he would like to play in RM.

I'm guessing Rooney got that "lack of ambition" thing last season when we only won League Cup.

let me add to all the crazy speculation:

sell carrick, replace him with Kesuike Honda.
Seriously though, do you think it will be very difficult for Honda to perform better than present carrick? Watch all of Japan's world cup matches, he is even more physical than carrick, who's a bit of a softie.

no no

1) hargreaves my favourite, cannot sell, cannot give up hope yet...

2) owen, good backup striker, not in a position to be demanding = good.

3) brown, umm... ummm... ummm... good backup for the backup players?

i am happy he is staying but still angry abou wht he did before

this is just crazy shit

I demand that he apologize to the fans

LOL all the big fuss that he was gonna leave,and now he's signed a new contract..

Before this u guys were angry like hell,criticize him teruk-teruk..now surely u guys will worship him again..

MU,MU..you shoulda stick behind ur player..

 

Lolz I sense a massive shift towards liking Rooney now.. 

You guys shoulda known he wouldn't leave...support him all the way

tuche' at the same time we should put our conspiracy theories away too.no pt contemplating why this and why that.he signed, we have a game, he apologized and we now look for him to redeem himself.simple as that.im with boxxy, he is still one of us so deserves our respect, and we should focus on our matches.when time comes we can discuss all we want sampai pengsan pun xpa

A few people say one player good, then all the rest jump on the bandwagon and say ya, ya good. But do they really know how to look at a player and make some decent assumptions on their ability? (as much as we can from sitting on our butts)

When SAF brought in CR, honestly, who can say that they had seen him play a lot and were very impressed with his ability? At the most, he showed potential, but was a very unfinished article.

When SAF brough in Park, prior to that, who among the blind bandwagon fans would have considered Park as a potential Man Utd player? Now, I think most can appreciate that Park, while not super world class, is a very decent player that has proved his worth to the team. His form of late, is worrying though.

So really, what do fans want when they speculate about transfers? When was the last time SAF bought a player who was near, or at his peak? That may change now that there is so much pressure to show the club's ambition, but even so, I think at best only one world class player will be brought in by next summer. Any further additions, will be the typical hidden gem type player, at the expense of getting rid of some of our existing team. We have to get rid of some players to bring in more new faces, as man utd is not like city in terms of rolling about in riches.

And all this blind hate at the Glazers. How many fans actually understand how business in respect to the club and glazers work? To be fair, the Glazers have still allowed SAF to spend a decent amount each year since they became owners. You cannot blame them if they are not like City owners. If any criticism is merited, it is only for the long term, that is wether the club will eventually succumb under unsustainable interests payments, wages, and expenses. But for the present and past, you cannot say that they have been tight with their purse strings.

Do you not think that SAF would have spoken out if he felt he was really restricted in his spending, to the point where he feels he cannot build a winning team?

Some fans here get very offended when someone suggest players who are not world class. Be realistic. How many truly world class, which is also based partly on hype, can Man utd bring in?

In case you never noticed, Spain is now the destination of choice for all the typical european top stars. The momentum has built up for quite awhile, and it will be some time before the EPL will become attractive to these stars again.

It helps when they (Spain) have a lower tax rate compared to England. A BPL player who want to has a gross weekly earning of 100K will need to be paid double that amount 

the culture grooming youngsters or hidden talents has been one of the major reasons why I love this club. No one can accuse Man Utd of buying their success outright (at least not to my eyes, other trolls may see it differently!) It would be very tragic the day this changes.

The Brown bros as well and of course our Samba twins 

Others like Norwood (his freekick  ) & William Keane who has been banging in the goals for our reserves.