No.

If you realize,Llano uses socket FM1 for desktop while BGA for laptops i guess.

So yes it is separate since it uses different architechture.

But for you,u just get AM3 + la,then put ur Thuban then kumpul $$ buy Bulldozer lor

I maybe going for Bulldozer 4 Core if not i will just go Llano..

Who knows Llano future socket might compatible with its own Fusion chip?

And do expect next generation Bulldozer and Fusion(2012) to use 1 socket since both of the arch will have Integrated Graphic


This post has been edited by AMDAthlon: Nov 20 2010, 12:29 AM

great timing indeed.. may i know what vdimm used?

i used the same speed binned eco..
can do CL6 1600mhz with only more then 1.65vdimm


small update.. well.. near wall.. not a good chip..

1.55v
any lower will get BSOD lol.
need to test more i think, just got "FATAL ERROR" on prime95 stress test lol
only rounding error, no crashing on gaming, bsod and ramdom lock-up yet

great, 0.1v ahead of me.. push more...
by ur sig, u using thuban, so i demand for moar..kekeke

with ram unstable, the system play games all day long..
unstable CPU might not able to do that..

great to see many eco users now..gskill do give a great chip inside the the low volt ram.. not like kingston LoVo

(ahh..ter-used my bro account.. kunta here)

and mind updating ur result here?
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1637973
make one snap shot of cpuzs and prime ya

This post has been edited by DET_D5t: Nov 20 2010, 09:05 AM

got the 1055t. tried overclocking, wouldn't post past 210mhz lol. guess my batch not so good.. still, quick enough for lil' me.

This post has been edited by sadako-chan: Nov 20 2010, 10:51 PM

only can push that low?
check other clock and voltage as well.

When overclocking non-BE cpu, you have to take care other part as well.
if you are raising HTT, eg 210,
HyperTransport clock, Ram clock, northbridge and your cpu clock will raise as well.

experienced ppl usually will make large jump on HTT clocks, eg 250/300mhz,
then decrease the HTT, NB, RAM multiplier so they will run @ stock speed.
do this only if you want to oc your cpu.

oc black edition cpu is much easier
because you only have to adjust the vcore and cpu multiplier.

That is not possible even with a bitter and lemonade chip for barely 10mhz increased.

Is MSI 870-G45 a good overclocking board?

Missing MOSFET heatsink, and looks like only have 4+1 power phase.
the MOSFET temp will increase alot if overclocking + 24/7 usage
this board use old AMD 770 chipset, not the 870.
thought i hear ppl say more powerpahse and MOSFET with heatsink installed will help increase overclocking stability.

870A Fuzion Power Edition <- 870 chipset
870A Fuzion < 770 chipset.
may be cheaper: 890GXM-G65
im not very familiar with MSI, only Asus and Gigabutt mobo

This post has been edited by 1024kbps: Nov 21 2010, 09:04 PM

nolah, just realized how gud (my own standard lah, to others mebe so so only ) is d eco if compared to this mysterious ram. if u want this pm me... doubt so thou coz it's not as gud as ya geil ultra imo (but it'll definitely looks gud on ya chiv ).



there's no way a thuban can't oc pass 210, even w/ stock multi. ram holdin u back mebe? what's d ram & board runnin atm?

it really depend how u oc, for benchers all they care are high cpu clock & imc freq, ram wise benchers usually use tight timing around 2k that's why most of d time they opted BE chips. playin w/ BE chips not necessarily mean takin short cuts coz not everyone into multi oc, but for sure they'll have more option when it comes to maximizin clock/freq for all as in cpu clock, nb & ram freq...

& not all BE chips clock well w/ ram.

exactly sir, i'll bet my BE chip on that.

not bein bias but there are better options out there, be it asus, giga or even biostar.

This post has been edited by ah_khoo: Nov 21 2010, 09:50 PM

Oh, so what is your recommendation for sub 300 mobo that is a good o/cer?

tbh, it's kinda hard to get a 8xx based board w/ that budget. if budget is fixed @ not more than RM300, i'd rather get giga's 770t-ud3 (RM278@viewnet, 8+1pwm )if cf is not a concern. if budget slightly flexible, i reckon ASUS M4A87TD/USB3 is not a bad choice. @ RM325 (czone), u got a real 8xx based board, pwm is not perfect @ 4+1 but u get turbo-v which make fine tuning in windows alot easier.

Wah many low end mobo do not have MOSFET heatsink one, overclocking sure make the MOSFET hot till can boil water liao.
review for the 770T-UD3: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/mainboard...70t-ud3p_4.html
i love how giga make the board, they leave the push-pin hole on mobo, so user can install MOSFET heatsink afterward lol.

Get Gigabyte 880GMA-UD2H. Quite good board for your budget. Using it with my HTPC and unlocking X2 560B stable.

last year when i hunt like hell the 770t ud3 not coming out.. only the USB3 that lack of the UD..kekeke
but now i dont even bother about that board

for mid ranged mobo, even the mosfets heatsink are there, i sometimes will take it off, and replace with ramsinks..
why, cuz the heatsink is too thick..and the thermal pads also too thick..

@piumiu..
looking for a mobo also for evo replacement.. hows the oc-ability..ram oc good? bios richness?

@#@#(*$ !!!
this is kunta..

This post has been edited by DET_D5t: Nov 21 2010, 11:51 PM

Low/mid end board can lah, high end one like 790/890FX, thier MOSFET,NB,SB heatsink is stick together one, it would be pain in the butt if want to remove them.
like this guy did on the 870a ud3, with thermalright heatsink:
http://forums.vr-zone.com/photopost/showph...eos1067&cat=500 (just scroll down a little)
he even put heatsink on the choke too lol
im thinking to replace my mobo thermal tape and reapply thermal paste too
never do that before, afaid will screw up my mobo

Biostar 890FX is another alternative option.

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This post has been edited by louislkw: Nov 22 2010, 09:04 AM

no doubt d mountin holes are a welcome feature, but in order to put 3rd party mosfet cooler, we need to order specifically thru sidewinder/performance pc or whatsoever sites which not really that convenient to some of us, d ghetto way (get whatever tiny bga ram sinks & pasta 'em usin 3m thermal tape) still d easier way, ofcoz, minus d aesthetic look.

yeah, unless u wc them but again findin d rite stuff for d whole set is not an easy task some more d price won't be cheap for sure. bro darkbladez WC CHIV is damn chio but it comes with a hefty price...

it's always recommended to reapply TIM even on high end boards. i hate stock thermalpaste (tbh they look like thermal"glue" to me) & d squarish sponge, they usually did as good as nothing.

u just need to be extra careful when reinstall back d coolers as one mite put too much pressure when securin d screws/push pins which mite end up causin chipped/crack nb/sb chip.

yes sir, but 890fxe is not available in our motherland leh...

This post has been edited by ah_khoo: Nov 22 2010, 12:23 PM

I always wanted to reapply a better TIM for my CIV but scared that i'll broke the heatpipe, seen someone on the net cracking his when he wanna do WC on his mobo