lol... from twin evil to twin cacing...

depends bro, this mite be d last upgrade for me ledi... but if llano comes cheap, then yeah, i'll follow u...

dun think 8 cores can be easily affordable unless ter"kick" bag of cash like our dear abg gaban. speakin of him, where is he now? bro -pWs-, sir antonio & few are all mia liao...



so far i have yet to test any msi 8xx board so i cant really comment much. but msi (for amd) always give me d feelin it's mixture of biostar (in term of bios richness for mid range) & asus (build quality). but somehow something missin in their boards, that "ummphhh" which give ppl d feelin that "i must own this board if i have d money".

dun be mistaken, msi are great mobo manufacturer, but their low~mid range boards (eg: DKA790GX[ddr2], 770-g45[ddr3] & 790gx-gd65[ddr3]) lacked d punch (considered OK but biostar can offer slightly better in term of ocibility imo in d same time bein cheaper) while their high end board in K9A2 Platinum V2[ddr2] & 790FX-GD70[ddr3] did pretty well but there were always better choices like dfi 790fxb-m2rs[ddr2] or giga's 790fxt [ddr3], & ch3[ddr3] - d most expensive board of all 790fx boards. i saw those pros used these boards & they managed to achieve not only good but great things. > correct me bout this as i hardly go hwbot to check wr.

for 8xx series, i'm kinda puzzled by their move in puttin only 4+1 pwm on their highest end board in 890fxa. i know d quality of components used is a class higher if compared to giga/asus but some will have 2nd thought to stress d board to d max, especially those with pots. then come d 870a fusion power w 8+2 pwm, but with only 2 pci-e x16 for fusion setup & that 4pins +12v eps... again, correct me if i'm wrong, fusion capable boards should have 3 (or more) x16 slots for better scaling, some more on 870 chipset which have limited pci-e lanes compared to 890fx.

ofcos, these are all based on my noob experience only lah... i didn't even bench with extreme coolin & know 0 bout high end gfx benchin (still usin dinosaur cards in 3850s, who am i here to comment)...

& pls stop callin me master or whatsoever bro, i'm just a casual clocker & never did anything with "wow" effect. what i achieved are not even comparable to half of what u guys (d intel gurus & d amd pros) did...

This post has been edited by ah_khoo: Oct 15 2010, 07:37 PM

if someone get something to test for free, that someone is not an average joe bro...

if d issue lies within bios, even d experts can't do much.

1760 @ 7-9-7 for a pair of kvr considered quite impressive ledi on a board with initial bios...

am anticipatin ya return bro...

ur bein modest bro, kvr bein run @ 17xx~18xx isn't something we can witness everyday. i'd say job nicely done.

micron is capable of 8-8-8 @ 18xx w/ reasonable volt (1.7xv) iirc. imo no point runnin 7-9-7 on micron, they're better off runnin @ 7-7-7 (tight timing) or 8-8-8 (lax timin). my humble 2 cents.

Source @ VRZ

i managed a poor 3.7GHz with my ex 720 b4, but volt needed was pretty ugly. in general, 720 doesn't clock as gud as b50/b55, u'd probably max out around 3.8GHz provided u got a great batch. for a 3.5GHz, u can try ht link @ 2k while crank up ya cpu-nb freq @ 2.25GHz. voltage wise i'd say around 1.35v +/- 0.02v should be suffice.

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=Atta...=post&id=830763

This post has been edited by ah_khoo: Oct 19 2010, 11:17 AM

imo d quality of wafer does matter apart from highly/lowly binned issue. 720 is one of d earliest batch of phenom II while 550/555(C3) are models which available more towards d end of phenom II series. regardless of how low a chip is binned (especially those with unlocked multis), it will some how do better than those made of wafer with inferior quality eventhou d latter is binned @ higher clock.

This post has been edited by ah_khoo: Oct 19 2010, 12:38 PM

what's d vdimm usedd? timing & freq looks impressive...

wait... dun tell me bro sarah owns a hydra based mobo?

today should be d day of darkness to arrive... (not be chip [email kate dah shipped but chip still not here, today kot???] but d imminent departure of Roo from UTD)...

555be of late have problem to be unlocked into quad/tri, so dun set ya hope high. if u really need a quaddy, get a real one instead of gamblin. it's not like 955/965 are way highly priced than a 555be. better be on d safe side rather than takin d risk.

alternatively u can go for proven unlocked chip, all u need is a mobo capable of doin core unlockin. what's mobo ur usin btw?

This post has been edited by ah_khoo: Oct 20 2010, 11:24 AM

CHIV can be hydra based oso what bro? CHIV Extreme name nyer...

btw, just receive d chip, scheduled it to be delivered to my office coz i just can't wait nemore...

doesn't sounds like a good batch - 1021EPMW... finger crossed till i put it to tests tonite...



This post has been edited by ah_khoo: Oct 20 2010, 03:17 PM

quote from bro cloudwan, "once u gone black, u'll never look back". a chip w/ 6 cores.

no bro, got some helps from fren. to make it simple, it's a free upgrade for me.

managed to hook it up only around 10pm, so didn't have much time to play. initial thoughts are as follow:

1. core 5 & core 6 seemed to be weaker than d rest.
2. imc (ram) not as good as d previous 1055
3. i'm noob in nb freq oc, 3k target is a hard nut to crack...
4. 4ghz should be doable with less than 1.44v.

will try out more tonite & during d weekend.

looks fine to me bro, it's not a prime session so should be doable w/ d mentioned volt.

it's a 1021EPMW batch 1090t bro. dun expect much, i'll be dead happy if i can run it 4.1+GHz prime stable. d imc freq oc is really a PITA, of all 3 thuban i've tested, all havin problem prime stable @ 3k. user problem or mobo (hintin bro cloudwan for 1-to-1 swap w his CHIV )

This post has been edited by ah_khoo: Oct 21 2010, 02:47 PM

gitu kah?? if like that come exchange 1-to-1 ya "normal" mobo w my fren's evo mobo. evo > "normal", so u untung...

erm... again, dun put high hope on me, if luck is always w me i strike toto long time ledi... some more, i always have more luck on ram, not chips... but rest assured, i'll try my best b4 offloadin it...

tuka ngan mobo "merah & itam" u tu mau???

sedey i... abg otromen always ask me to bla...

why oh why "biobintang" 890fx layout is like that, if not sure i ask my fren to buy liao... layout design = file besar...

joke aside, d undervolt/overvolt issue is worse than 1055 on this evo board... sigh... should i re-join gaygay again?

waa... this is too much to ask for bro, u need jackpot luck + very godly board coupled w/ skillful hands for that kinda volt for a 4.1GHz.

edit: this golden chip mite be able to do... d best i've seen so far



yalor, abg cloudwan baik ati punyer, sure can pinjam itu s3x cor3s. asus is bias, only rog line used to enjoy richer bios, even 890fx vanila boards have d same bios as evo only.

can't loan lah... if i got no money to eat then who is goin to give me food? dun mentioned bout biskut/cup nuddle in d pantry, i'm almost botak ledi thanks to d msg...

This post has been edited by ah_khoo: Oct 21 2010, 03:32 PM

fwah... that's some serious volt there... nonetheless, awesome freq there...

pardon for d low clock, this is just a warm up but i reckon it's not miles better than d previous 1055...

4.1GHz w < 1.4v? i dun dare to dream big. 4GHz w < 1.4v i very happy ledi...

thx bro, hopefully there are more to come...

338 prime stable, have yet to try max bootable but i doubt it'll go over 350. only premium boards like CHIV capable of high htt...

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=Atta...post&id=1679853

yeah, i bet d bandwidth for memory gonna hit > 6k in memtest (dos).

This post has been edited by ah_khoo: Oct 22 2010, 09:14 AM

hmmm... have yet to try that but 17 isn't something i use quite often...

d ultimate goal which i sincerely hope can b done (for 24/7) are:

1. 4GHz w/ < 1.4v
2. NB @ 3K
3. Ram @ 2K (gotta need at least a pair of flare/any decent psc sticks, eco can't be tortured @ 2k [7-10-7] w/ 1.68v)

suicide clock is d last thing i'm gonna do. will do it d slow & steady way this time round...

it's possible bro, some luck needed to get a decent batch thou, i've seen 4GHz doable w/ just 1.3xv, those are really good chips.

i guess i'm bein a 'lil bit lucky this time, but let just take one step at a time. later can't hit 4GHz buat malu aje...

This post has been edited by ah_khoo: Oct 22 2010, 10:20 AM

ermmm... can always coupled w/ c&q mah...

to get high htt, all u need is to find d g-spot (preferred divider) of d system. at certain htt, chip or i can say imc dislike certain divider. u just need to test, as simple as that, no skill/knowledge needed.

if that's d case d ram should be d culprit then...

btw, 4GHz finally done w/ < 1.4v...



* gosh... wrong cpu-z tab again... age is cathin up i guess, or d haze of Sumatra is gettin better of me.

okie, here's a new ss fresh from oven. managed to shave off some vimc...



This post has been edited by ah_khoo: Oct 23 2010, 11:30 AM

i supposed bro, but let's see whether d volt can be further lowered.

bro, u x layak call me unker leh... u lebey tua hor...

imc volt @ 1.266v as per ss...

btw, i suspect there's something wrong w/ half multi, d imc volt is too low to be true...

This post has been edited by ah_khoo: Oct 23 2010, 12:26 PM

1.53v as per ss bro...

btw, i was just thinkin too much, there's nothing wrong with half multi.