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 AMD® Socket AM2&AM3 Overclocking V24, Thuban or Bulldozer!? Its 6-Season

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post Feb 16 2011, 12:33 AM

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Oooooo nice louislkw, wish they release an entry lappy using that already hmm.gif
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post Feb 16 2011, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(cloudwan @ Feb 15 2011, 11:02 PM)
Get a good not that expensive but oc'able mobo + DDR3 lor, maybe a Asus M4A87TD + DDR3 for ur usage, cpu stick to ur X3 1st, later on when new AM3+ mobo launch u can just buy a mobo + BD drool.gif tongue.gif
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considering that... XD
what rams to buy?
I have limited budget for RAM & I don't need it to be able to OC high...
Is TEAM Elite DDR3 1333 2GB C9 OCable by small margin?
Btw how much do you guys oc the rams normally...
Still new to DDR3... blush.gif
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QUOTE(byfc2010 @ Feb 16 2011, 10:26 AM)
considering that... XD
what rams to buy?
I have limited budget for RAM & I don't need it to be able to OC high...
Is TEAM Elite DDR3 1333 2GB C9 OCable by small margin?
Btw how much do you guys oc the rams normally...
Still new to DDR3...  blush.gif
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a fellow forumer did a decent review on elite 1333. able to do rather tight timing @ 1600 (7-7-7 iirc). not bad for value range ram. but if u have all d time in d world + some luck, go hunt for kvr. ask kunta/verdict for what kinda chips u should hunt for. they got great pair of kvr that put shame on mid range of so called performance ram. thumbup.gif

p/s: depends on d chip u have, if u have thuban, u'll have more option as they can bring decent ram to ~2k or slightly higher, w/ propus/deneb/regor, highest i reckon is ~1.9k. timing wise both platform should be almost identical, loose timing like 9-9-9/8-8-8/7-8-7/7-9-7 for 1800 or higher (for psc/some elpidas), tight timing like 7-8-7/7-7-7/6-7-6/6-8-6 @ 1600 ish or slightly higher (elixir/elpida/micron/psc). correct me if i'm wrong... it's been a while since i last played w/ ram. sweat.gif

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post Feb 16 2011, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Feb 16 2011, 10:31 AM)
a feloow forumer did a decent review on elite 1333. able to do rather tight timing @ 1600 (7-7-7 iirc). not bad for value range ram. but if u have all d time in d world + some luck, go hunt for kvr. ask kunta/verdict for what kinda chips u should hunt for. they got great pair of kvr that put shame on mid range of so called performance ram.  thumbup.gif

p/s: depends on d chip u have, if u have thuban, u'll have more option as they can bring decent ram to ~2k or slightly higher, w/ propus/deneb/regor, highest i reckon is ~1.9k. timing wise both platform should be almost identical, loose timing like 9-9-9/8-8-8/7-8-7/7-9-7 for 1800 or higher (for psc/some elpidas), tight timing like 7-8-7/7-7-7/6-7-6/6-8-6 for (elixir/elpida/micron/psc). correct me if i'm wrong... it's been a while since i last played w/ ram.  sweat.gif
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Eh u bukan tokan RAM's ka bro? laugh.gif
Agree with ah_khoo bout the KVR if u have the time go learn from the sifoo verdict & kunta on what to look for in KVR's smile.gif
On the sidenote tho i just love the ramsink on the elite value ram laugh.gif
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post Feb 16 2011, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Feb 16 2011, 10:31 AM)
a feloow forumer did a decent review on elite 1333. able to do rather tight timing @ 1600 (7-7-7 iirc). not bad for value range ram. but if u have all d time in d world + some luck, go hunt for kvr. ask kunta/verdict for what kinda chips u should hunt for. they got great pair of kvr that put shame on mid range of so called performance ram.  thumbup.gif

p/s: depends on d chip u have, if u have thuban, u'll have more option as they can bring decent ram to ~2k or slightly higher, w/ propus/deneb/regor, highest i reckon is ~1.9k. timing wise both platform should be almost identical, loose timing like 9-9-9/8-8-8/7-8-7/7-9-7 for 1800 or higher (for psc/some elpidas), tight timing like 7-8-7/7-7-7/6-7-6/6-8-6 for (elixir/elpida/micron/psc). correct me if i'm wrong... it's been a while since i last played w/ ram.  sweat.gif
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IC... that's what i'm looking for... drool.gif
Read from Tom's Hardware that their KVR goes to DDR3 1624 without tweaking...
How much is the overclocked speed you guys mentioning?
Kunta and Verdict! What chips are on those beast KVR???

What about XMS, HyperX or TeamXtreem Dark...
They are 1600Mhz and CL9...
The only midrange 4GB kit that I find at around RM200/pair..
Digging their reviews right away...

QUOTE(cloudwan @ Feb 16 2011, 10:46 AM)
Eh u bukan tokan RAM's ka bro? laugh.gif
Agree with ah_khoo bout the KVR if u have the time go learn from the sifoo verdict & kunta on what to look for in KVR's smile.gif
On the sidenote tho i just love the ramsink on the elite value ram laugh.gif
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Ok! ON!

I've got DDR2 kits here... You want? tongue.gif
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post Feb 16 2011, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(cloudwan @ Feb 16 2011, 10:46 AM)
Eh u bukan tokan RAM's ka bro? laugh.gif
manada.jpg??? playin w/ ya ex-es ram doesn't make me a tokan laa bro... laugh.gif

QUOTE(byfc2010 @ Feb 16 2011, 10:58 AM)
IC... that's what i'm looking for...  drool.gif
Read from Tom's Hardware that their KVR goes to DDR3 1624 without tweaking...
How much is the overclocked speed you guys mentioning?
Kunta and Verdict! What chips are on those beast KVR???

What about XMS, HyperX or TeamXtreem Dark...
They are 1600Mhz and CL9...
The only midrange 4GB kit that I find at around RM200/pair..
Digging their reviews right away...
Ok! ON!


xms yawn.gif khx (lower end, not those 18xx to 2xxx models) rolleyes.gif team dark lv series is ok (they run on elpida bbse), if normal team dark (w/ el cheapo heatspreader, unlike lv w/ higher & thicker heatspreader) no comment. smile.gif

if u want some gud lookin + decent ram, looks no further, grab a pair of gskill, their ripjaws/eco series are kinda impressive, but ofcoz, u dun expect 'em to be as cheap as kvr la... kvr are dirt cheap now... $25 per stick (2GB, ddr3 1333) over here... shocking.gif

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post Feb 16 2011, 11:19 AM

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how about corsair vengeance 4gb stick? hmm.gif brows.gif
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post Feb 16 2011, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(dafreak @ Feb 16 2011, 11:19 AM)
how about corsair vengeance 4gb stick? hmm.gif brows.gif
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buy me a pair, i will voluntarily test it for u - FOC some more... tongue.gif
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post Feb 16 2011, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Feb 16 2011, 11:07 AM)
since when, playin w/ ya ex-es ram doesn't make me a tokan laa...  laugh.gif
xms  yawn.gif khx (lower end, not those 18xx to 2xxx models)  rolleyes.gif team dark lv series is ok (they run on elpida bbse), if normal team dark (w/ el cheapo heatspreader, unlike lv w/ higher & thicker heatspreader) no comment.  smile.gif

if u want some gud lookin + decent ram, looks no further, grab a pair of gskill, their ripjaws/eco series are kinda impressive, but ofcoz, u dun expect 'em to be as cheap as kvr la... kvr are dirt cheap now... $25 per stick (2GB, ddr3 1333) over here...  shocking.gif
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so u mean XMS, no good?
KHX, take the lower models?
team dark normal ones you nvr heard bout the performance?

no lah... I'm not into looks... more into value... blush.gif
i just want to c if i can get those KVR,
if not i will try to find some RAMs that are able to do mild OC,
and price difference v KVR not that big...
Cz i saw KVR beat HPX in OC as well... drool.gif

your price is lower than ours a bit!

QUOTE(dafreak @ Feb 16 2011, 11:19 AM)
how about corsair vengeance 4gb stick? hmm.gif brows.gif
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hmm.gif better not...
I've had an experience that 1 of my kit died and i still got 1 left to use...
I'm afraid if the 4gb goes down i've got no rig...
anyway thanks for suggestion...

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post Feb 16 2011, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(byfc2010 @ Feb 16 2011, 11:31 AM)
so u mean XMS, no good?
KHX, take the lower models?
team dark normal ones you nvr heard bout the performance?

no lah... I'm not into looks... more into value... blush.gif
i just want to c if i can get those KVR,
if not i will try to find some RAMs that are able to do mild OC,
and price difference v KVR not that big...
Cz i saw KVR beat HPX in OC as well...  drool.gif

your price is lower than ours a bit!
xms is kinda... ermm... average i'd say... khx only good for high end models like 1866 or higher model (those with tall heatsink iirc). never try normal team dark that's why no comment, but lv series like 2k cas 9 or 1600 cas 7 were kinda ok to my book, just that they were slightly pricey imo. smile.gif

if ur not into look, by all mean hunt for kvr w/ elpida/alibaba (kingston relabeled) goodies. i was veli2 impressed by d latter, done by ram guru kunta. 18xx @ 6-8-6, i dun think u see this eveliday... thumbup.gif

yup, d kvr here mite be slightly cheaper, but all half cut in size (short height pcb) & w/ bad alibaba chippies... 1600 @ 8-8-8 is d most i can squeeze outta 'em, not totally rock solid stable iirc... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Feb 16 2011, 12:07 AM)
busy reviewin products eh sir? nice stuff there... what's d price???  drool.gif
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Busy at work and hardwares. Too many thing to bench and test.

Price in US is 110 but not sure what will be the price here.

QUOTE(cloudwan @ Feb 16 2011, 12:33 AM)
Oooooo nice louislkw, wish they release an entry lappy using that already hmm.gif
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Featured product from DELL probably?? biggrin.gif
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post Feb 16 2011, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Feb 16 2011, 11:51 AM)
xms is kinda... ermm... average i'd say... khx only good for high end models like 1866 or higher model (those with tall heatsink iirc). never try normal team dark that's why no comment, but lv series like 2k cas 9 or 1600 cas 7 were kinda ok to my book, just that they were slightly pricey imo.  smile.gif

if ur not into look, by all mean hunt for kvr w/ elpida/alibaba (kingston relabeled) goodies. i was veli2 impressed by d latter, done by ram guru kunta. 18xx @ 6-8-6, i dun think u see this eveliday...  thumbup.gif

yup, d kvr here mite be slightly cheaper, but all half cut in size (short height pcb) & w/ bad alibaba chippies... 1600 @ 8-8-8 is d most i can squeeze outta 'em, not totally rock solid stable iirc...  sweat.gif
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ok... thanks alot... thumbup.gif notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(louislkw @ Feb 16 2011, 11:54 AM)
Busy at work and hardwares. Too many thing to bench and test.

Price in US is 110 but not sure what will be the price here.
need some helps sir? hmmm... if direct convert i'd say it's kinda affordable... drool.gif

QUOTE(byfc2010 @ Feb 16 2011, 12:08 PM)
ok... thanks alot...  :/thumbs:  :/respect:
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np bro... smile.gif

btw guys, since they're more prizes being pumped in now, any suggestion on how should we categorize d compy? speed cap & non speed cap or thuban and d rest (deneb/propus/am2+)? pls revert asap, as much as possible, lets have it finalized tonite... thanks in advance guys... nod.gif
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i forgot ar.. for asus to enable the DC using the same ram slot colour right?
so side by side?
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Feb 16 2011, 04:28 PM)
i forgot ar.. for asus to enable the DC using the same ram slot colour right?
so side by side?
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same kaler bro... smile.gif
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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Feb 16 2011, 04:34 PM)
same kaler bro...  smile.gif
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more confuse when i look on the board
black, black , blue, blue naming as
A1, B1, A2, B2..

thinking like A1 + A2 to make the DC.. sweat.gif

normally u guys put unganged mode eh for benchmark?
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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Feb 16 2011, 04:21 PM)
need some helps sir? hmmm... if direct convert i'd say it's kinda affordable...  drool.gif
np bro...  smile.gif

btw guys, since they're more prizes being pumped in now, any suggestion on how should we categorize d compy? speed cap & non speed cap or thuban and d rest (deneb/propus/am2+)? pls revert asap, as much as possible, lets have it finalized tonite... thanks in advance guys... nod.gif
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Hahahaha maybe just break it into two? One that is already proposed & the other no holds bar@no handicapped@no core/speed restriction??? hmm.gif
Just my 2 cents lah icon_rolleyes.gif


Added on February 16, 2011, 4:45 pm
QUOTE(8tvt @ Feb 16 2011, 04:41 PM)
more confuse when i look on the board
black, black , blue, blue naming as
A1, B1, A2, B2..

thinking like A1 + A2 to make the DC.. sweat.gif

normally u guys put unganged mode eh for benchmark?
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Smells like new hware in the house? drool.gif drool.gif tongue.gif
IIANM its A1 + B1 brader smile.gif

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yes teach me.. i'm noobs...
before send it to the real owner.. haha..
budget X4 btw..
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Feb 16 2011, 04:53 PM)
yes teach me.. i'm noobs...
before send it to the real owner.. haha..
budget X4 btw..
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What u waiting for tukar PSu masuk GPU pastu oc masuk compy.. hahahaha
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QUOTE(cloudwan @ Feb 16 2011, 04:43 PM)
Hahahaha maybe just break it into two? One that is already proposed & the other no holds bar@no handicapped@no core/speed restriction??? hmm.gif
Just my 2 cents lah icon_rolleyes.gif
that's what i'm thinkin too bro... great minds think alike... tongue.gif

or, should we have one category for intel too? hmm.gif

I got a feeling Sanko ko ko is behind this (we're gettin prizes sponsored by MSI)... if so we should thank him in fesbuk... nod.gif notworthy.gif

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