wtf? 3am?

lol no need 5 queen to def vr end game any more

void ray pilots are gonna quit their job. lol

VR Pilot: There is nothing but THE VOID.

So guess they going nowhere and must stick to their jobs LOL.

VR pilots can become kamikaze units instead...lol

the patch is way too imba...too much nerf especially on the reaper...
nitro packs upgrade when fact...reaper is useless already tat time

I hate reapers but i believe this is too much... Nitro packs should stay as it is... Just the barrack before supply is enough.

VR pilots: For Aiur!

VR nerf is too much...
why u wanna make VR now when u can make immortals and still get obs along the way?

Wait s sec, VR first phase i actually buff. 10 damage to armor units 2x more then normal. Just that the charge phase is nerf. In a way isn't this better? This mean VR do not have to be charge to deal sufficient damage to armor units. 1 extra damage to light unit when uncharged.

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Added on October 15, 2010, 8:57 amVR still better then Immortals i think.

VR has 2 thing better then Immortal still.
Attack air and land
Air mobility

I do not counter immortal shield into this because only ground attack usually deal massive damage



This post has been edited by darkplacid: Oct 15 2010, 08:57 AM

no1 uses lvl1charged VR...
u usually precharge at ur own pylon (proxy) or ur buildings (defense)...
so the lvl1 buff is pointless...
wut more VR's role is heavy armor buster like corruptors, BC and my fav bunkers...

immortals are 50gas cheaper, easier to get (since u need obs) and easy transition to colossus...

Yay no more reaper rush.. Altho i use terran but i really do not like reapers.

Oii.. why no nerf for Stimmed Marauders???

Revenge of the Zerg!!!!!!! hahahah

The nerf for both VR and reaper is just stupid. Well done Blizzard's SC2 developers who can code "without" a proper logic.

What what what? I do not get not say you need to use level 1 charge to get to level 2?

So you do not have to sac a pylon before it deal sufficient damage is not good? Well i salute you term of good and bad.

Also this actually means VR is now good even if it is not charged up. So i fail to see your point of logic. True that the level 2 is nerf but i felt the level 2 charge damage output a little bit too high also if you think about it. VR has the highest dps when charge with a wooping 41.66 DPS to armor units. That even higher then a Thor.

True that it suppose to kill high dps units but with all the pylon sac strategy like you said. People abuse their level 2 charge to own other units easily. This is to stop that abuse more. I feel it is alright.

blame the bronze leaguers who think that spamming marauders and all their imbaness just to die to VRs LOL...

Basically the buff on buildings are the nerf to Marauders. This buff+the medivac nerf will prevent more easy building snipes drop from Stim Marauders.

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Added on October 15, 2010, 9:59 amThe VR buff on level 1 also means no more proxy pylon charging as the pylon will die before it is charged.

This post has been edited by darkplacid: Oct 15 2010, 09:59 AM

Do it mean i still get to click on my nexus/hatches when hero marauder is stimming it?

Yea well. Isn't this a strategy game? Marauders > Stalkers || VRs > Marauders
Like yeah, Blizzard sees bronze league players whinning everywhere and they make such a nerf. I bet the developers from Blizzard nowadays have bronze brains.

u dun sac a pylon...
2 VR can get to phase 3 beam with only the pylon shields gone (provided that terran is bad enuff to let u charge at a pylon outside his ramp LOL)...
then u micro em over to ur opponent's ramp and bust their bunkers while keeping the charge up on ur zealots...
else with terran mass repair, u'll nvr break the bunker...
do note this is a high high high lvl technique which is freaking micro intensive to keep the charges up aka juggling...
not many ppl can do this perfectly to date (in fact no1 did in gsl1 beside a werra guy who beat ITR in yesterday's gomtv clanwar)...
even when i do this, i am forced to atk move my ground army with a sentry for GS as i dun have the apm to micro my ground...

to counter this?
a small squad of marines is all it takes as they have really low life...
if marine have stim? its even easier...
marine in bunker? not even close as the VR would melt by the time he get the bunker to half life...
as i take, low lvl leaguers dun have the marine count spamming marauders and marauders in bunkers...
if u scout well enuff, ur 1 single viking (1-1-1) can kill those 2 VR without taking a single hit...
so whichever build u go with as a terran there's a solution to it (see how ITR handle tester's VR in GSL1)...

and dun start with wut if ur opponent dunno etc...
the same can be said with cloak banshees etc...
dying to not scout does not make a unit bad nor is having a bad unit compo (1marine2marauder when a 2VR timing atk is so far away)...

+1 LOL

More like your building will go down before the alert is given that you base is under attack.

wrong again...
a single VR now can get to phase 3 (lvl2) with only the pylon shields gone (12sec to charge to phase 3)

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Added on October 15, 2010, 10:05 amsimple thing: scout!
2 VR takes a long time to get out...
1 VR is not worth for this build against decent terrans...
if u see the toss's army is small, don't u feel strange as VR cost 250/150

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Added on October 15, 2010, 10:07 ambtw VR's design is high damage when charged while being squishy that require good micro (to get it charged and keep it alive)...
its a glass cannon to burst down high armored units especially BCs...
u cant compare that with a thor which have tonnes of health and armor to start with (not to mention range)...
apple vs orange

This post has been edited by evofantasy: Oct 15 2010, 10:07 AM