Hmm.. Good one here.
Yea, of course I do kick the bass during rolls, and in fact that is the most important part of the whole roll, because the bass drum is the heartbeat of the roll. Without the bass drum kicking, the roll will sound terrible (very empty, loud and noisy)...

Well, as for your point.. I understand that there will be no wrong or right on the style and fill-ins that we put into the songs. As long as there is no out of time thing going on. Hahaha.

But my point is.. Maybe you know who is Cobus Potgieter. Those songs that went through his hand and remixed by him is a whole lot different. Songs that i do not like to listen, songs that sound crappy... But when it is being remixed by Cobus, the whole songs just went BOOM!! It is so different, so nice..

All i know is that he is playing according to his feel.. But this term is too general. Haha. It needs a person to have the skills / techniques to be able to put the right feel into it. Cobus is like a bank of drum rolls, beat, and alot alot alot of other thing. The way he did those flam in the toms are just terrifically good..

Maybe you need to check him out in youtube? Haha

yea i know cobus bro =)

well that is exactly what i meant by asking you to check out stuff by jerome flood II, eric moore, aaron spears, gerarld haywward, marvin mcquitty, tony royster jr, john blackwell, dennis chambers, tony williams, spanky,...drummers that highly influenced my drumming today...the stuff that u see cobus does is also heavily influenced by these drummers...and i do lots of those similar stuff as well... =)

flam triplets, linear gospel chops (slightly different than the normal straight forward rock linear chops/fill) to make my point clear do check out aaron spears video playing the song caught at drummer world gospel summit event... =) ( aaron spears is usher's drummer)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPCXsVniUj0

and the part i meant by doing drum rolls with the bass drum going is not hitting the bass at every 1,2,3,4 of the count...the fills i would typically do would go something like this:

left, kick, right, left, kick, left right, left, right, kick, left, right, left, right, kick, right left kick, left, etc etc and it goes...

so it does create some drum fills or lick that sound as if im doing a drum lick with double padels..but im not...but sometimes i do put in double kick in my fills/rolls in between the hands to make it more lile a 7 stroke drum fills...ps i dont use double padels...so to make the double kick i would use a pivoting technique, or the heel toe or the sliding foot technique =)

another type of drum fills you can do is to learn and study the stuff that dave weckl does....he is also one of the drummers that really inspired me...especially in modern fusion music style =)

and also vinnie colaiuta and steve gadd, amongst others that do all the stuff that u see cobus would do =)

mostly if drummers who likes what cobus does basically most of his fills are linear drum fills and he incorporates flams in them...

oo and another drummer that does that alot is mike portnoy of dream theater =)

This post has been edited by treflip: Jan 3 2011, 01:33 PM

Bravo good one here. There are a few that you mentioned, I too had checked them out previously. Yea, they are great people, great drummers.

Yeap, I am able to do x2, or even x4 (In moderate/slow songs) kick using one leg only. But it is really tiring.. But those hits will be nice when did it in the correct parts of the songs.

Way to watch more Cobus vid at youtube to learn more..Haha

yea bro!! all we need is more practice thats all..i tried a friend's dw bass padel before...its a double but is being used as a sing;e with one beater taken out and one foot pedal detach...thts besides the point...my point is that pedal is so awesome with the right beater distance and spring tension that i play double stroke with the kick pedal it wsnt tiring at all...i even did a triplet pattern with it hehehe...but yeah..that pedal is expensive...i wish i could try demon drive pedal...but for now i need to focus on selling off my Dennis Chambers signature snare...i need the cash !! heheheh

what gear are u using yea bro?

I played on Yamaha and DW sets.. But i don't like DW toms.. Yamaha toms sounds nicer.. Or maybe that tom i am playing just sucks? Hahaha..
But had to admit DW bass pedal is one if the best i had stomped on.. It is just smooth.. The rebound is not too harsh, but it is quick.. Optimum result.. Haha..
But pity my bass skin, i kick until it is dented in...

Nope bro. Brand new from JS. I wish I could xD

Go ask Jimmy ™ lah You want his number mou?

And I use the bouncing method for ghost notes. Even with bouncing you can control the amount of ghost notes Except on loose heads lah

get a bass drum patch bro? Should strengthen your bass drum skin. Or just buy new Evans skin from me lah Any pictures of your current setup? Personally yes, I agree with you, on the fact that the Yamaha toms I've played sound/seem better than the DWs that I've played too.

In my opinion, the Rock Tour/Oak Custom drumsets are extremely good.

hehehehe yeah..jimmy also got ajak me to swap snares with him...its ok i have his number =)

yea man...dw pedals rock!!!!! i love the feel to it...it makes my foot feels alive!! hehehehe

and for ghost notes at home i would practice stick control on a really soft with no bounce surface =)

Great to see some good discussion here. Where do you guys usually go for drum related news? mikedolbear? drummerworld? Any magazine?

isaacmiranda7 : Any update on the DW clutch?

Anyway, here's something for cowbell fans

Yea, gonna reinforce that bass drum surface... I think gonna try some REMO drum skin for this matter. I am quite satisfied with this drum skin.. I admit that i hit quite hard, but the skin still likes me

If there is any free drum clinics out there, or not so expensive drum clinics out there, do inform us drummers here.. Maybe we can go together and learn something.

Btw, my method to improve my left side is to Play using the left hand as lead. Roll starts with left hand... I find it.. Quite challenging. Hahaha

This post has been edited by Bonescythe: Jan 3 2011, 11:19 PM

hehehe same here bro..that is why if you see the example of drum fills i gave earlier i put there left hand as the lead hand...and i'm expanding my open hand playing as well....im still trying my hardest to develop my left foot to be able to play a clave while my other three limbs play some latin groove...imagine the three limbs playing a non-liner beat with your left foot playing a hell different thing...and i'm on the verge of giving up for now hehehehe

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Added on January 4, 2011, 2:13 amLetting go my dennis chambers signature snare by this week or next week for only RM1.1k..less than a year old ! come come

This post has been edited by treflip: Jan 4 2011, 02:13 AM

Yeap!! And you will become a all rounder versatile drummer..

hehehehe but i guess im not just there yet...so bro interested in getting a new snare?? hehehehe

Oh diuu. I forgot Sorry Text me?

I usually go to the PDF for drummer's news

Haha... Good Luck for your sales.. Hope your snare can snare a new owner.. Hehe

hey if kadang2 the band plan to play some cover songs, do u guys download the guitar pro notes and learn it? or just by listening?

the guitarists i play with would just play by ear =)

how bout u? haha

really hard for me to play by ear la..terpaksala read notes while playing..huhu

to be honest i suck at reading...i can read while not playing..i can only read first then play ( for drums la )

been a "by ear" playing drummer for more than 10 years hehehehe...but when it really requires me to read then i have no choice but to read...hehehehe

ei afiq, just heard the news that u guys gonna come to sabah around this february! stonebay is a must watch!

bh kalau sempat, jumpa la ah. haha

yes bro...will be doing our 2nd showcase in KK!! jumpa bah!! hehehehe...will update more on facebook later...hehehehe...where do u stay in KK yea?