then ready to get your first complain

Plenty of taxes. Information is easily available on the net.
Even items shipped as gift/used will be taxed.
My Dunnett titatnium snare is on its way; I'm expecting a hefty tax.

I made a base for my practice kit. It's just a couple 1/2" plywood sheets, wrapped in felt carpet and bolted together. That should serve your purpose.
I have a Gibraltar bass practice pad and I drilled some holes and bolted that to the plywood sheet. Otherwise it'd be flying all over the place.
Axis pedals pack a mean mean punch.

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Added on November 9, 2010, 11:22 pmHow do I put this. Can I say that getting an e-kit as your first kit is detrimental to your development as a drummer?

This post has been edited by Party2DMax: Nov 9 2010, 11:22 PM

Everyone has their own way to learn things they like and I still dont see a problem having an E-drum as the 1st kit to play.

Do let me know how much tax u pay when it arrived

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Added on November 10, 2010, 5:47 amI vacuum like 2week once

This post has been edited by AhBoy~~: Nov 10 2010, 05:47 AM

Not at all.. Sure there will be difference in play but its minor. When u adjust to an acoustic kit, you dont need to relearn a whole new instrument. The only thing people who play ekit lose out on is how to adjust the acoustic drums, tuning and hardware related stuff.

expensive gears u have there party2dmax. haha.

Nicely said. I'm with you in this one.

Unfortunately, dynamics is very important. E-kit opens up creativity and variety in term of sounds but fails to replicate the dynamics of acoustic kits. Its best to practice both regularly.

E-drum is good but boring. You can hear the rubber sound more than you can hear the drum sound. The annoying tek tek sound drives me up the coconut tree to commit suicide. I rather connect the e-drum to myself and shout out the beat myself. But if you play it with high volume and a good amp, different story. Might as well get the real thing.

Cheers.
Ok bye.

Thats old e-drum technology.. the rubber tek tek sound and low dynamics.. Current ekits, are less quite, because they use mesh pads and other materials.

Dynamics can also be played by adjusting the sensitivity. Its now just hit 1 time then 1 volume come out..

I would say both are similar but not the same instrument... e-kit are better in a sense many sounds can be programmed, so its more like a high tech stuff..

while acoustic drums have more feel to the playing and all parts of the drum can be played hence more sound creativity

Like u said playing both will be the best

Flame, why don't you go try out a Yamaha DTXtreme III for yourself. You'll be then wondering, what rubber sound. Either ways, you don't need the amp, just headphones.

Anyway, I'm with the acoustic boys on this one. I feel that it certainly is detrimental top your learning..

Why?

1. Size. E-Kits tend to be much smaller than real ones, even the 7-8 piece ones. Some may argue that your hitting therefore becomes more accurate, but will you be comfortable behind a real set.

2. Bass drum rebound. Sure, it may not affect you that much, but wouldn't you agree that there is a difference?

3. E-Kits will probably teach you less about acoustic drumset dynamics and how real drums would REACT live.. You lose out on a lot there.`For example, cymbal strength control and tension rolling.

4. You can carry your cymbals and snares to gigs. E-kit cymbals and pads how? Half the time you wouldn't be able to get the sound you usually prefer.

5. Drum maintenance. I believe every drummer should learn how to change heads, replace lugs, stuff a drumset, mic a drumset, setup and tune a drumset.

6. You can experiment more with real kits.

My personal opinion. Don't get me wrong. I'd love an E-kit. In fact,I do love them. And in actual fact, I'm thinking of getting one. But I'm still about 15k away.

When I was touting the awesomeness of e-kits (TD-20 or similar) even when getting flamed here, I'd assumed a player would already have the chops.
That vid made me realise that I shouldn't be so gung-ho about e-kits. I could've been offering a stupid recommendation to newbies
But still... personally, for myself, e-kit has the edge

This post has been edited by Party2DMax: Nov 10 2010, 06:50 PM

Do you think everyone has a choice when the surrounding is not allowing ? Like myself living in an apartment, I would really like to go for acoustic drum if no one complains There are limitations in e drum as well as acoustic drums hence people make the choices based on their needs and ability. There's nothing to argue I guess

an e kit would be awesome for late night practicing. haha.

This.

I'm not saying that e-Kits suck. Heck, I live in a condo too, and my drums are far away. Sure, an e-kit would be better than no kits, agreed. But now we're just talking about what would be better for beginners.




And most stock e-kit pedals don't help you train your muscles that much.

Certainly Actually, for me it would be for ALL time practicing. Ahh... I can't wait till the hols. Then I can finally go to my drums at night. (for those who don't know, my set is in an office block, as referenced by the pictures in the previous thread.

But I've made a promise to myself, to only buy mid-range to high end stuff, things that can last me. Aim for the moon You'll fall among the stars. So yeah. E Kit will be on hold

To me, Korg Wavedrum is by far the closest digital drum that can replicate dynamics of an acoustic drum. Others might be good, but the difference is to far. Unless you have a full Korg Wavedrum drumkit (bass drum and cymbals aside), digital drums is still lacking dynamic wise.

What vid?

On another topic, anyone here records and listen back to their practice session?

yup.. the best will be going for acoustic-electronic hybrid project like me

fifi85's vid

I record and listen back whenever I can. It's part and parcel of practice.
Other than that I use weights too, and mirrors... whenever I can la
Drum is pretty much physical so it should be tackled with the mindset of an athlete.

my vid? what vid?

Like your idea

So an E-kit with hoops and tuning like an acoustic drum is the best.