It's.....very obvious that the guy was speeding on the bridge. There's noway the car can be ripped apart like that if he was going 80. Chances are he was doing 120~140.....and it's doable on the bridge especially at night. The crosswinds on the bridge are not predictable. Sometimes, you can just get a gust of wind and this is exactly what will happen. What more, a Livina, chances are way higher.

About penangites hogging right lane, actually, not just penangites, there are alot of idiots like this everywhere. Driving at speed limit does not give you the farking rights to hog the right lane. Move over and let people who are faster overtake you. And please don't give a rat ass on why that guy is driving fast. That's his own damn problem if he wants to go above speed limit but don't farking hog the lane like you own it. I've seen accidents caused by idiots like these one time too many.

agree

too bad nobody bother bout this, everyone just see going faster is always the problem but these lane hoggers are same shiat as well

if that accident is caused by a road hogger, then he deserve to die. The way he drive eventually he will meet same fate also soon or later. Good he is dead before he kill more innocent people.

dont impose your views onto others unless you want to become a zealot.

Since when does other people driving over speed limit concerns you? whether or not people driving over speedlimit is within whos right, it definately doesnt fall into your hand to decide. I already said, if its speed summon you are talking about, let them deal with it.

I was talking about road hoggers in penang bridge, not overtaking issue like what you are saying. you have the right to give your comment which is right for the overtaking part, but as far as road hoggers on the bridge is concern, if you have never experianced it then you have absolutely no idea what me & others are talking about.

the situation (on the bridge) is not the same as everywhere else.

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Added on September 22, 2010, 9:49 amfriend, my points exactly.

why are some people so concern about whether others are speeding or not? Is it so hard to understand? Faster car behind you, GIVE WAY.

This post has been edited by eddie_al: Sep 22 2010, 09:49 AM

He got what he wanted, speeding and rushing to Reincarnate. Coffin lorry hogging in front better ham kar chan striaght into it. Drive FASTER

of course pregnant... if not will get married at 17 and 19 mer?

please show respect to the deceased. you can scold people who are still alive, they can always argue back. Don't do that to people who already passed away. do you know what i am talking about?

Oh well......what's done is done. Car crashed, life lost, bones broken. Drive safe people. Especially on the bridge. I'm a violator myself at times flying on the brdige at crazy speeds but am cutting down now........scared end up at the wrong side of the bridge.....

you got it all wrong...
why shouldn't it concern me when other drive over the speed limit???
i'm a road user too... and would like to feel safe when i'm on the road...
a speed demon who lost control of his car can cause an accident and take other motorist lives too...
that's why we have speed limits...

if you're in the middle of overtaking some buses, lorries, slower cars...
a speeding car closes in behind you...
in order to give way...
there must be a safe gap on the left lane for you to squeeze in to allow the speed demon to illegally speed through...
if there is none... the speed demon have to allow you to finish overtaking...

for road hogging... it's wrong for safety reason... same as speeding...
people road hog for various reasons...
i've asked around before...
some say others can do it... i also can...
some say it's their right... same reason speed demons give...
some say lazy to change lanes to overtake... let the other fella behind do all the work...
you'll be surprised all the lame excuses people can come up with...

as for the people who died on the penang bridge...
i don't think the crash of the mpv with the guard rail caused the worst damage and killed them... it was to the side of the car...
the impact of the lorry behind them that did the worst damage...

just my 2 cents... take it with a pinch of salt... as i take others too...

Situation should be like this. MPV lost control, crashed, followed by impact from lorry which normally love to stick closely behind any moving objects, couldn't stop in time, bang...!!!

It's just a lorry sending vegetables. Imagine bigger lorry, what will happen?

This bridge is hungry maybe...need to sacrifice black goat..lolz..

I agree with those who says if there is a faster car in the right lane behind you, you should GIVE WAY.

But, I also can empathise with you on this, cause some cars are really fast, and before you can finish overtaking, they are right behind you already. Therefore, I always slowdown and will not cucuk the car infront of me (although sometimes they are obviously lacking in power to overtake try as they might ). BUtpls.. if your car no power, and it's going uphill or whatever, dont lah slowly overtake and take 5 minutes to do it....

I think if he was driving a Volvo XC90 he would have survived. That car is a tank. Safest car in the world.

Also, the guy who was thrown out into the sea is like Superman. Man of steel. Many people would have undoubtedly drown against the strong current while shell shocked.

Penangist never give way to other one lo...
"u wan fast arr, u potong me la..."

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Added on September 23, 2010, 12:47 amgive way to faster car??
hard for penang..

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Added on September 23, 2010, 12:51 ammy opinion, drive safely...
dun always potong others.. won't make u the 1st in front or any mystery gift await for u...

then most important for penangist, pls drive the car accordingly to the speed limit.. normally too fast or too slow...

why can;t just obey the speed...

most of the case is those motherf^^^^r drive crazy slow, then cause car from behind try to cut....

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RIP fro them...

This post has been edited by Vincent_A8fm: Sep 23 2010, 12:51 AM

anybody know what is the current body count for the penang bridge since it opened???

just motor accident... no need include suicide...

FYI, there might be a reason Penangites road hog at right lane, the left lane occasionally full of nails
Last time 2 lanes was worst, now got 3 lanes is better a bit.

I'll use mid lane now no matter how slow i'm driving, if u want to overtake me, use right lane or left lane.
If i'm driving in 2 lanes last time, i would probably hog the right lane too

About the road hogging:
It is very subjective. For example, during traffic jam, is the right most lane has to be empty for "higher speed driver"? It is not, as the traffic is congested and all lanes are in full capacity, please be patient.

Like mentioned earlier, each driver may decide their own speed (fast/slow/beyond speed limit/turtle crawling style), give way to faster car if you are in the right most lane. And also, the car from behind will have no right to pressure the front driver to drive beyond speed limit (he has his right to drive safely), when there is no space in left lane, eg. as faster car pressure the car infront which is overtaking a slower car.

I don't think a 160km/h car will drive in middle lane and keep zig-zag to over take the cars in middle lane, and that car will stay in the right lane (road hogger)?

About the road accicdent:
I pity the passangers as they traveled with the driver. The driver was irresponsible to his friends as well as the bridge users. Imagine if it was another car/motorcycle (instead of lorry) bang the lavina, there would be another fatal case.
Learn to be responsible before driving on road.

About the speed limit on penang bridge:
Still feel that 80km/h on bridge is slow... and i also notice the 70km/h before the ramp (i feel very annoying)... need a super percise right foot control on accelerator... (and i drive either in middle lane or left most lane.. don't curse me of hogging the right lane )
Do you all notice the camera anyway (sign boards near entrance in both directions)?

During the Raya festive season, when I was travelling on the PLUS highway, one bloody white Forte drove as if he owned the road. Flashing high beam and HONKING all the way to tell people to give way, when everyone is travelling around 80-90km/h. Damn ego.

I honestly hope that this kind of driver can go meet whoever God he believes in ASAP.

Bro have you considered he might have an emergency? Maybe he want to lausai liao? Imagine how susah tahan from shitting?

from my own personal experience since the bridge opened, i have noticed the following...

before the bridge expansion...
it was 2 lanes to 3 lanes (middle span) to 2 lanes...
most motorcycles, buses & lorries will be on the left lane entering and exiting the bridge...
that's why you end up with cars hogging the right lane...
buses & lorries will sometimes hog the right lane too...
it seems they do this to avoid changing lanes whenever they need to overtake slower motorcyles, buses, lorries, cars...
when you hit the middle span, you'll notice the left lane seems to become a motorcycle lane...
very seldom you'll see slower buses, lorries, cars move to this lane...
some cars use this left lane as an overtaking lane...
why???
because it will change back to 2 lanes again...

now, after the bridge expansion...
not much have changed in terms of driving habit...
the most left lane is usually full of motorcycles...
slower buses, lorries, cars still drive in the middle lane...
there are still road hogs driving buses, lorries, cars on the right lane...

just my 2 cents...

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Added on September 23, 2010, 2:11 pmthis kind of people don't believe in god...

they only believe in speed demon...

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Added on September 23, 2010, 2:15 pmthis kind of drivers will eventually create an emergency for other road users...

This post has been edited by raymond: Sep 23 2010, 02:15 PM