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Taipan052
post Sep 23 2010, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Sep 22 2010, 05:19 PM)
I agree with those who says if there is a faster car in the right lane behind you, you should GIVE WAY.

But, I also can empathise with you on this, cause some cars are really fast, and before you can finish overtaking, they are right behind you already. Therefore, I always slowdown and will not cucuk the car infront of me (although sometimes they are obviously lacking in power to overtake  try as they might doh.gif). BUtpls.. if your car no power, and it's going uphill or whatever, dont lah slowly overtake and take 5 minutes to do it....  sweat.gif
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this another thing. thanks to point it out. its true. experience it many time.
if you're going uphill and car no power, don't overtake laa..
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post Sep 23 2010, 06:24 PM

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IMO this is very straight forward and easy to understand

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post Sep 23 2010, 08:46 PM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Sep 23 2010, 02:05 PM)
Bro have you considered he might have an emergency? Maybe he want to lausai liao? Imagine how susah tahan from shitting?
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very nice of u...
think of the others...

if all the driver like u good la..

drive carefully, the road is for all of us..
no one owned it.. so must share share, give way to people...

and also dun block the emergency lane...


Added on September 23, 2010, 8:59 pm
QUOTE(raymond @ Sep 23 2010, 03:00 AM)
anybody know what is the current body count for the penang bridge since it opened???

just motor accident... no need include suicide...
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may be a few thousand...

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post Sep 24 2010, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(Beach_Boy @ Sep 23 2010, 06:24 PM)
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IMO this is very straight forward and easy to understand
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em.. why don't you post the speedlimit as well? tongue.gif
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post Sep 24 2010, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(kikikukiki @ Sep 24 2010, 03:44 PM)
em.. why don't you post the speedlimit as well? tongue.gif
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speed limit is just the law in certain country.
if i was not mistaken, in germany there is no speed limit on the freeway/highway (instead advisable speed)

now should we still hog the fastest lane if you're in germany?
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post Sep 24 2010, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(Taipan052 @ Sep 24 2010, 04:26 PM)
speed limit is just the law in certain country.
if i was not mistaken, in germany there is no speed limit on the freeway/highway (instead advisable speed)

now should we still hog the fastest lane if you're in germany?
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I realised, some people have their own set of "logic" that they follow and no set amount of arguing/convincing/proving will change their mind. That's why you have smart peopel and you have stupid people in this world. If they refuse to understand the idea behind road HOGGING the Right lane, then let them be.
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post Sep 24 2010, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(Taipan052 @ Sep 24 2010, 04:26 PM)
speed limit is just the law in certain country.
if i was not mistaken, in germany there is no speed limit on the freeway/highway (instead advisable speed)

now should we still hog the fastest lane if you're in germany?
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yea... try tailgating and flashing your headlights trying to get the "road-hog" off the fast lane and see who gets to keep his driver's licence in germany

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post Sep 24 2010, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(kikikukiki @ Sep 24 2010, 05:13 PM)
yea... try tailgating and flashing your headlights trying to get the "road-hog" off the fast lane and see who gets to keep his driver's licence in germany
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It's not germany but... it IS illegal to road hog in Germany.. look it up before posting ignorantly..

Then again i'm sure you will still argue somehow propogating that road hogging is ok in your world... to each their own

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Blocking the fast lane could cost Georgia drivers $75
By Walter C. Jones

Morris News Service

ATLANTA – Drivers who hog the fast lane and refuse to yield to faster vehicles could get a $75 fine under legislation introduced Tuesday.

The law already requires slowpokes to move over as soon as they notice they're being overtaken, but the sponsor of House Bill 1047 says a $75 fine would give officers more incentive to issue tickets.

"I don't think I'm alone in thinking this: There are so many times when you're on the Interstate ... and people will get in the over in the left-hand lane, which by law is for passing, and just sit there using it as their own personal driving lane," said sponsor Rep. Mark Butler, R-Carrollton. "They may be going 50 mph, and it ends up slowing down traffic. It's frustrating."

http://www.times-herald.com/Local/Bill-wou...-the-fast-lane-

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post Sep 24 2010, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Sep 24 2010, 05:27 PM)
It's not germany but... it IS illegal to road hog in Germany.. look it up before posting ignorantly..

Then again i'm sure you will still argue somehow propogating that road hogging is ok in your world... to each their own

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Blocking the fast lane could cost Georgia drivers $75
By Walter C. Jones

Morris News Service

ATLANTA – Drivers who hog the fast lane and refuse to yield to faster vehicles could get a $75 fine under legislation introduced Tuesday.

The law already requires slowpokes to move over as soon as they notice they're being overtaken, but the sponsor of House Bill 1047 says a $75 fine would give officers more incentive to issue tickets.

"I don't think I'm alone in thinking this: There are so many times when you're on the Interstate ... and people will get in the over in the left-hand lane, which by law is for passing, and just sit there using it as their own personal driving lane," said sponsor Rep. Mark Butler, R-Carrollton. "They may be going 50 mph, and it ends up slowing down traffic. It's frustrating."

http://www.times-herald.com/Local/Bill-wou...-the-fast-lane-
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really? and what is your point exactly? did i say it was ok to road hog?
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post Sep 24 2010, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(kikikukiki @ Sep 24 2010, 05:37 PM)
really? and what is your point exactly? did i say it was ok to road hog?
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but you just said "why don't you post the speedlimit as well", which make it seems you are in line with people thinks "it's ok to road hog because i am following the speed limit", or worst, "i did it because i care and you should not speed".

i am not pointing at who that is, but they should know who they are. the point that i brought in earlier was, road hogging is a frustrating situation that leads people to get agitated & do reckless things, such as cutting into the left lane, most of the time without looking behind. that is reckless driving, and should be punished. but it's not just them who needs punishing, those road hoggers are also responsible and should be punished just like those laws in Japan & Germany.

i never advocate speeding, a point somehow certain smart people are too "thick" to see that. i just said, it's none of your damn business. and more important, i was totalling referring to the penang bridge, the place where this accident happened. on the bridge, speeding is almost a non issue on its own, because the road is almost always full of cars. how can you even speed?

we just want to drive "fast & smoothly", and not "you do 80 so i do 81 & together we make the whole road slow like mati". after a day of work is it too much to ask to get home early?

so why there are still accidents? well for one, hoggers makes people get frustrated, and frustrated people do stupid things like cutting lanes without looking. when they do that, cars behind would get shocked and sudden brake. BAM, accident happens. isn't that a familiar situation on the bridge? very.

and before the introduction of 3rd lane, it was almost always the poor motorist who become the unlucky ones...either knocked down or ran over.
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post Sep 25 2010, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(Beach_Boy @ Sep 23 2010, 06:24 PM)
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IMO this is very straight forward and easy to understand
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The whole of malaysia only got hundred and one sign like this. Where you found it? Gua Musang highway?

Where in big city cars don't drive on third lane, maybe tanjong rambutan town.

In Malaysia 99% saman issued are speeding related, never saman due to hogging road except blocking the Agong, Sultan, Minister, WAKIL RAKYAT like myself lah...

I didnt know got so many VIP here

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post Sep 25 2010, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(Taipan052 @ Sep 24 2010, 04:26 PM)
speed limit is just the law in certain country.
if i was not mistaken, in germany there is no speed limit on the freeway/highway (instead advisable speed)

now should we still hog the fastest lane if you're in germany?
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bro, it is called Autobahn. germany is so big, and not every freeway are without speed limit.
only this autobahn. i personally been there before. the road is very very wide and u can expect to see super cars "zoom....." then disappear from you.

but once accident happens, i guess.... thats it la....
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post Sep 25 2010, 03:26 PM

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the main point is you don't have the right to hog the fastest lane. that's all.


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post Sep 25 2010, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(Taipan052 @ Sep 25 2010, 03:26 PM)
the main point is you don't have the right to hog the fastest lane. that's all.
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+1

Imagine u are going 130 on right lane
drive drive drive

then suddenly this aunty hogging the lane, driving at 110.

then she dont let you pass.

because frustrated. you turn to the left to overtake, and BANG

this is how accident happen.

how it happen?
1)the aunty hogging the lane

if you say cause the guy was speeding, wait, the guy already brake behind the aunty, so in reality, he wasnt speeding at all, the aunty stop him from speeding making him switch lane spontaneously and cause a crash.
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post Sep 25 2010, 04:08 PM

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don't give example aunty drive at 110km/h.

real experience uncle drive at 100km/h at LPT hiway and hog the fastest lane. the speed limit is 110km/h

so please give way ya you all lane hogger.
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post Sep 25 2010, 04:25 PM

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Terrible Man! engine was on the road ...
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post Sep 25 2010, 06:24 PM

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QUOTE(BelowAverage @ Sep 25 2010, 03:33 PM)
+1

Imagine u are going 130 on right lane
drive drive drive

then suddenly this aunty hogging the lane, driving at 110.

then she dont let you pass.

because frustrated. you turn to the left to overtake, and BANG

this is how accident happen.

how it happen?
1)the aunty hogging the lane

if you say cause the guy was speeding, wait, the guy already brake behind the aunty, so in reality, he wasnt speeding at all, the aunty stop him from speeding making him switch lane spontaneously and cause a crash.
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Auntie driving at 110km/h, it's her right because that is the national speed limit. You driving at 130km/h, you were speeding -1. If you were speeding and am involved in an accident and die, nobody cares. If you are involved in an accident and take somene else with you, imagine the wrath your family members will have to face from their next of kin. If you don't die and the other party dies, you think you will be able to live with it?
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post Sep 25 2010, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(BelowAverage @ Sep 25 2010, 03:33 PM)
+1

Imagine u are going 130 on right lane
drive drive drive

then suddenly this aunty hogging the lane, driving at 110.

then she dont let you pass.

because frustrated. you turn to the left to overtake, and BANG

this is how accident happen.

how it happen?
1)the aunty hogging the lane

if you say cause the guy was speeding, wait, the guy already brake behind the aunty, so in reality, he wasnt speeding at all, the aunty stop him from speeding making him switch lane spontaneously and cause a crash.
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QUOTE(kikikukiki @ Sep 25 2010, 06:24 PM)
Auntie driving at 110km/h, it's her right because that is the national speed limit. You driving at 130km/h, you were speeding -1. If you were speeding and am involved in an accident and die, nobody cares. If you are involved in an accident and take somene else with you, imagine the wrath your family members will have to face from their next of kin. If you don't die and the other party dies, you think you will be able to live with it?
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the senarios above given by both you guys are wrong...

1st...
road hogging on the overtaking lane is an offence not matter at what speed...
you should not be in the right lane if you are not overtaking slower traffic on the left lane...
so, always keep to the left lane when not overtaking...

2nd...
even if you do hog the road (which is an offence) on the right lane...
when a faster car is approaching from behind...
it does not matter if the other car is speeding above the speed limit or not...
as long as it's faster than you...
you should return to the left lane within a reasonable time to allow it to overtake you...

3rd...
while you are overtaking on the right lane...
if you approach a slower car in front of you which is overtaking at a slower speed than you...
you need to slow down and allow the slower car to return to the left lane when it's done overtaking...

4th...
while you are overtaking on the right lane...
if you approach a slower car in front of you which is hogging the right lane...
you need to slow down and allow the slower car to return to the left lane within a resonable time...

5th...
you should only be overtaking cars on the right lane...
no matter at what speed you are driving...

6th...
driving above the speed limit in whatever lane is an offence...

if every road user follows the above...
more lives will be safed...
remember...
road hogging and speeding accidents are actually not accidents at all...
since they are all preventable incidents....
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post Sep 26 2010, 12:16 AM

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after reading all of the post above, one thing to conclude is that this kind of accident will happen and will neve stop no matter how hard or how hot the debate is, because it already becoming our culture to jeopardize our own and other's people safety the moment we enter the road.

wake up all of the people. it's our own attitude that keep letting this gruesome accident happening all this while. and it will continue to happen if we dont have a mindset of a first world.

yeah try to implement the law in malaysia same as georgia that is to fine road hog, and the next day you will see some ignorant politician keep yelling that the law is not fair for rakyat bla bla bla and at the end it will be ignore.

WE are killing OURSELVES. stop pointing fingers and start the change, practice defence driving and always remember safety first
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post Sep 26 2010, 04:54 AM

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i used to encounter this situation before

on a double lane, i was overtaking a lorry at 80kmh-90kmh
just after a safe distance in front of the lorry, i gave signal and want to return to the left lane, suddenly an impatient reckless idiot that followed me during the overtaking, accelerated and overtook me on the left. He didnt even giv me time to return to left lane. if i didnt use the side mirror during that time, i wouldnt want to imagine what will happen..
I think those impatient idiot has been trained to overtake on the left due to those right lane hogging cowboy

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