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eddie_al
post Sep 21 2010, 09:38 AM

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sad news. RIP to the deceased, both very young couple, with a 2 months old daughter. sad sad. next time, drive safe on the penang bridge.

i know why certain driver were forced to cut lanes. because certain "smart" people driving at 80Km/h refused to move to the left lane & hog the right lane no matter how you beam them. so when they got frustrated, they switch to the left lane, causing this kind of mishap.

please to all those who "terasa" you are people who drives slow but always sticking to the right lane, you are partly responsible for this kind of accidents.
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post Sep 21 2010, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(idunnolol @ Sep 21 2010, 02:23 PM)
Then because you were overtaking at 30-40kmph over the speed limit and cause an accident is ok la as long your overtaking? When kena saman for driving over speed limit at fast lane you tell police that you overtaking, See they take your reasoning or not

An extra 40kmph isnt going to make your travel time much faster especially in city driving condition and these 3 people paid with their lives for "faster" travelling
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i am not advocating speeding. please go back to driving school. you obviously failed.

always give way to the faster car, especially when you are at the rightmost lane. kena saman is the one overtakings' problem...not for you to decide. the moment you hog the right lane, you are a road idiot. you played a part in aggravating people to cut thru the left lane. fullstop.

EDIT: I bold the part for those who have problem understanding. That's the traffic rule on dual lane (or more) roads. Just because you are above speed limit, doesn't mean you can stay there as long as you like. Give way. Don't understand, then google / dictionary it.

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post Sep 21 2010, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(idunnolol @ Sep 21 2010, 02:49 PM)
I'm sure we experience being on the right lane with car high-beaming you while the left/middle lane is full and there is absolutely no way to give way except to hog the right lane. Would you still say i am a road hogger in that situation?

Malaysian drivers in general need anger management and patience class. Its not our choice to hog the right lane if the other lanes are full with speed abiding driver

By the way,i dont think there is any law prohibiting lane hogging, Someone should advocate it to parliment. I have my fair share of lane hoggers
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are you a penangite? A few penangites just told you, penang drivers like to hog the rightmost lane when the middle and left lane are empty. If you don't know the situation we face everyday on the bridge, please keep yr comment to yourself.

penangites know exactly what i am talking about.
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post Sep 21 2010, 06:39 PM

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QUOTE(Taipan052 @ Sep 21 2010, 06:31 PM)
sorry if offence anybody here.. penangites tend to hog the right lane.
i experience it not once, not twice but thrice on the way balik kampung during raya last year. on the same route from KL to pahang.

all with P plate number. even the left lane is empty and drive slowly on right lane. not at speed limit also.
hahaha

so for fast lane hogger. please give way to others. thanks
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no offence taken. i am a penangite but i do not drive like them. infact, i always try to hi beam them hoggers 1st, and overtaking from the left as my last option. being an experianced driver, we always check our left mirror for motorcyclist before changing lane. (even checking blindspots, because penangite motorcylist have a tendency to hide there)

sad to say but inexperianced driver will get agitated and then switch without looking. that's also very dangerous.

note: that's why i said, lane hoggers played a part in accidents like this. others might be wrong for driving recklessly, but if you are hogging the lane with your 81km/h that makes you plain brainless. to me, brainless is just as fatal as reckless. reckless drivers might be wrong for not doing/thinking right, but being brainless you are infact not thinking at all.
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post Sep 22 2010, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(raymond @ Sep 22 2010, 04:39 AM)
i agree the outer most lane on a multi-lane highway is for overtaking...
but it does not give you the right to drive over the speed limit...

i'm always on the left or center lane when i'm cruising on the highway...
i'll go out to outer most right lane to overtake... all the while within the speed limit...
bear in mind when i do this... i make sure the overtaking lane is clear of traffic...
i'll then return to the left lane when i'm done...

if some speeding idiot happens to catch up at my rear while i'm overtaking...
they should be slowing down to allow me to complete my overtaking...
they can then continue with their unlawful speeding when i return back to the left lane...
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dont impose your views onto others unless you want to become a zealot.

Since when does other people driving over speed limit concerns you? whether or not people driving over speedlimit is within whos right, it definately doesnt fall into your hand to decide. I already said, if its speed summon you are talking about, let them deal with it.

I was talking about road hoggers in penang bridge, not overtaking issue like what you are saying. you have the right to give your comment which is right for the overtaking part, but as far as road hoggers on the bridge is concern, if you have never experianced it then you have absolutely no idea what me & others are talking about.

the situation (on the bridge) is not the same as everywhere else.


Added on September 22, 2010, 9:49 am
QUOTE(pillage2001 @ Sep 22 2010, 06:14 AM)
It's.....very obvious that the guy was speeding on the bridge. There's noway the car can be ripped apart like that if he was going 80. Chances are he was doing 120~140.....and it's doable on the bridge especially at night. The crosswinds on the bridge are not predictable. Sometimes, you can just get a gust of wind and this is exactly what will happen. What more, a Livina, chances are way higher.

About penangites hogging right lane, actually, not just penangites, there are alot of idiots like this everywhere. Driving at speed limit does not give you the farking rights to hog the right lane. Move over and let people who are faster overtake you. And please don't give a rat ass on why that guy is driving fast. That's his own damn problem if he wants to go above speed limit but don't farking hog the lane like you own it. I've seen accidents caused by idiots like these one time too many.
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friend, my points exactly.

why are some people so concern about whether others are speeding or not? Is it so hard to understand? Faster car behind you, GIVE WAY.

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post Sep 22 2010, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(Kinitos @ Sep 22 2010, 12:55 PM)
He got what he wanted, speeding and rushing to Reincarnate. Coffin lorry hogging in front better ham kar chan striaght into it. Drive FASTER
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please show respect to the deceased. you can scold people who are still alive, they can always argue back. Don't do that to people who already passed away. do you know what i am talking about?
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post Sep 24 2010, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(kikikukiki @ Sep 24 2010, 05:37 PM)
really? and what is your point exactly? did i say it was ok to road hog?
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but you just said "why don't you post the speedlimit as well", which make it seems you are in line with people thinks "it's ok to road hog because i am following the speed limit", or worst, "i did it because i care and you should not speed".

i am not pointing at who that is, but they should know who they are. the point that i brought in earlier was, road hogging is a frustrating situation that leads people to get agitated & do reckless things, such as cutting into the left lane, most of the time without looking behind. that is reckless driving, and should be punished. but it's not just them who needs punishing, those road hoggers are also responsible and should be punished just like those laws in Japan & Germany.

i never advocate speeding, a point somehow certain smart people are too "thick" to see that. i just said, it's none of your damn business. and more important, i was totalling referring to the penang bridge, the place where this accident happened. on the bridge, speeding is almost a non issue on its own, because the road is almost always full of cars. how can you even speed?

we just want to drive "fast & smoothly", and not "you do 80 so i do 81 & together we make the whole road slow like mati". after a day of work is it too much to ask to get home early?

so why there are still accidents? well for one, hoggers makes people get frustrated, and frustrated people do stupid things like cutting lanes without looking. when they do that, cars behind would get shocked and sudden brake. BAM, accident happens. isn't that a familiar situation on the bridge? very.

and before the introduction of 3rd lane, it was almost always the poor motorist who become the unlucky ones...either knocked down or ran over.

 

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