is the entrance on the damansara perdana u turn to 1u?
the tunnel there damn jam man

That's why we called Malaysia Boleh. haha~

That Party of the Century is a sign of things to come. Remember Genneva Gold? Got Mahathir to launch their event, and during their dying days, got special promotions and many road shows. If a product is good, no need to do these kind of 'special' promotion.

I wonder how much was paid to Paris Hilton for attending this event, I bet it won't be cheap.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=2722599&page=1

and remember, not Paris Hilton alone, got others too.

WOW, min 100k USD,

I bet it will change max coz this is not a famous event
so 500K usd will be reasonable

I more on consultant side, not leasing...so not sure if they govern the SPA......

Oso nvr encounter something like handover to end user, but they cant operate or stay there....first time i hear..... our consultant commitment to the developer, etc, is always until we got TOP, or CSC.....so until they got TOP, it not suppose to be handling over to the end user, as it still consider as construction site, and own by the Contractor....

Maybe you r right VP is mention in the SPA , and there r such practice which i not aware of......

In Sch H... it is very clear guidelines from PAM about the interpretation of each billing and VP.

Not sure about Commercial SPA (Non Sch H)...

Many developers out there have been "adopting" Sch H SPA for commercial SPA and changing few wordings here and there. If you buy commercial non-sch h property, the reputation of developer supersede everything else.

indeed, so very important taking this case as an example..if every buyer takes the trouble and time to scrutinize the spa before signing, chances are developers are less likely to try to take advantage..

Whatever it is VC CCC CPC HDA SPA etc etc... There owners already started paying instalment for 6-9months+ for a place that they cannot enter, do not have keys, not even have doors, no lift, no facilities nothing. Kinda understand Mr Lim position here, he has nothing to lose, albeit, maybe, nothing to gain except promoting his electrical appliance shop a bit. For owners, most of them are hoping for the best, keep paying instalment instead of having a bad credit in the future, ruining owns lives, and finger-x the developer will eventually finish the units, rather not piss them off by going legal or dispute. That may explained why owners are keeping quiet.

But still, thanks to Mr Lim that open cans of worms and still keep going... i.e. Instead of clarify why owners have no keys but already paying instalment, they issued LAD for Mr Lim, instead of clarify the real unit is fit for VP and show the photos of the actual complete unit, while they just keep emphasise Mr Lim showed the "wrong floor" which is the hotel. And it's a condo, not landed, without facilities, proper common areas, accessibility, how to live in, or even start renovate with that kinda finishing?

This project also has a quite-affordable price range for its location, with mostly small units below 500sq ft. Attracted a lot of first time home buyers, mostly want to stay there and get out of being a high rental victim of Klang Valley, a few buy-to-let investor, few flippers, and even less or maybe none overseas speculators that bought like 10-20 units. It's looking really bad and negative for the owners. Feel very sorry for them.

For those of us here that is not owners, more or less we were also properties owners who may had same experiences, or a lot luckier than these EC owners. or future owners that concern the loopholes and traps that these developers can play, learn a thing or two and be cautious in the future when they are finally into the property ladder.

The thing is this Dev do HAD good reputation ... Until now I guess.

That teach everyone a lesson, no matter how good it look from the outside.. Maybe one day even developers like Sime Darby, IJM, Ecoworld also cannot be trusted ...

MEH had a good reputation before? I don't think so judging from their previous build in empire subang for eg..

have you seen Subang Parade (~2010) before Subang Empire is launched?

Have you seen Subang Parade blow out due to gas leak?,have you seen glass ceiling fall through 4 level atria? No right..... it happened only at Subang Empire. and

Have you seen a person get crushed constructing access ramp to Empire City?

Who told u empire city was originally sold for rm500k?
Please get the fact rite first b4 comment.

How many home buyers that you personally know to engage their own lawyer when developer paid for tbe legal fee?

I only know only when the purchaser himself/herself is lawyer only do so.

Obviously you dont know this developer.

This post has been edited by BEANCOUNTER: Mar 18 2016, 04:44 PM

wow the party of the century. confirm not cheap wan.

they really went all out eh

ES is doing well after the initial hiccup.

But when owners got the key for the unit, the similar hiccup they faced, just on smaller scale compared to Empire Damansara. It seems that now whatever the owners faced in Empire Damansar it is minuscule compared to Empire City.

Everyone was using the success in Empire Subang, suck up the developer's inefficacy in delivering the product and bbb in Empire Damansara and Empire City with the hope developer is able to replicate the success.

This post has been edited by gks: Mar 18 2016, 04:48 PM

even tho one scrutinize and highlighted your disagreement, dev/lawyer (free spa) wont amend it to your citarasa. its take it or leave it case. because u don't represent the mass who are bungee-jumping for the words that sounds like >> fee waived/rebate xx%/maybe free aircon/washing machine/dryer

This post has been edited by jojolicia: Mar 18 2016, 04:53 PM

different point. my point is Subang parade area is almost dead then. after subang empire launched, it starts to get active back

and when EC is launched, there's no bad news. EC launched in 2010. the gas leak happens in late 2011. not sure when is the atria accident though. another dead place before renovation. now semi dead? havent been there yet

MEH repo not good before this happen,

as you can see ecoworld, t&t, BRDB those top tear developer selling above market price ppl will still buy

some people must be in dream world saying MEH repo is good before all tis issue came up

Empire Subang is consider a lucky venture for MEH. One unit SOHO was selling for 200k only. The concept is unique then, and the market likes it. All buyers make money from that investment. But this is before the property boom. During the boom, the selling price can touch 600k.

MEH banked on ES success to venture into Empire Damansara. Of course, this was during the boom period, MEH made tons of money. Buyers as well. I guess this make them to dream bigger.

I had seen Empire Subang quality first hand, it was consider very bad that time. Then Empire Damansara came to fruition and it makes ES workmanship looks minor.
I guess when Empire City comes to fruition later, it will make ED workmanship looks minor as well.

MEH is never a good developer from start.

This post has been edited by lch78: Mar 18 2016, 05:14 PM