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 EMPIRE CITY @ Damansara Perdana/Mutiara Damansara, Mixed Development Project in Damasara KL

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kochin
post Mar 18 2016, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(godlikexioo @ Mar 18 2016, 10:05 AM)
I think VP and TOP is something similar.
But the arguing point is whether the entire building  has already obtain CCC?
If CCC still yet to be issued  by the architect / engineer, it still consider as construction site.
As early someone has shared that this is commercial unit and it is stated in the SPA that it can VP without CCC.
That the reason this topic is getting  hotter and hotter because of unethical developer, architect n engineer.
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there are no unethical developer.
developer are not professionals.
they are just businessman. you need to treat them as pure profiteer with or without a moral code.

it's engineers and architect who supposedly must adhere to code of ethics under their job as professionals.

correct kah?
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post Mar 18 2016, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(aspartame @ Mar 18 2016, 06:35 AM)
That is not considered cheapskate. Many people use developer lawyer but must see which developer.
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buying >rm500k property, cant even spare <rm10k for legal fees?

if this is not cheapskate, what is?

see developer? before this happen arent they a good developer with successful project(s)?
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QUOTE(youknowwhoami @ Mar 18 2016, 10:03 AM)
Wow, i seen lots of people who don't own the units of EC but can act like professional wei... But i don't see you guys gather to help Mr Lim but just keep on discussing here? As you guys speak like PRO, don't just tok cok. Give some action if you know the risk Mr Lim taking now.
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mr lim have block all pm via facebook and non friend cannot comment in his FB.

if you know mr lim just ask mr lim to have a PC in kopitiam,
i will sure all main stream media will come
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post Mar 18 2016, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(youknowwhoami @ Mar 18 2016, 10:17 AM)
His BF / GF ... Haha....this make my day actually... Gay ke ?
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BF can translate to Best fren also....smile.gif
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post Mar 18 2016, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(Minolta @ Mar 17 2016, 09:00 PM)
Wah this thread suddenly so hot.

Owners must be sweating.

6 month VP still no CCC.

Developer keep saying soon soon soon. Once CCC cum, any tom dick Harry can go in there Liau. Then more pictures cum out.

So unlikely CCC for few more months sum more.

Means keep paying installment and maintenance.

Owners must be sweating
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this is what you call>> developer playing bothsides of the chess board, right from the start, the minute you sign on the dotted lines.

its just a matter when (which development/launch) will get choked down of cash-flow along the pipeline. that's why we always see holding company and one subsidiary each to a new launch!!! rclxm9.gif thumbsup.gif
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post Mar 18 2016, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(youknowwhoami @ Mar 18 2016, 10:03 AM)
Wow, i seen lots of people who don't own the units of EC but can act like professional wei... But i don't see you guys gather to help Mr Lim but just keep on discussing here? As you guys speak like PRO, don't just tok cok. Give some action if you know the risk Mr Lim taking now.
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laugh.gif i personally work in construction line in singapore, involve personally in those submission to Authority , including helping architect to get TOP and CSC, etc.... I beleive lots of ppl commenting here r in construction line too... We not act, we just sharing wat we knw
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post Mar 18 2016, 10:29 AM

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Since they have already delayed the project once, why they so ego and send out the VP to client if the project is still WIP? They can just delay it another time. haha
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post Mar 18 2016, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(jonnie @ Mar 18 2016, 10:09 AM)
different leh.

VP = developer give u possesion of the unit. In this case,happen before CCC.

TOP = Goverment issued permit to allow the building to be occupied.
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hmm.gif so it is different ah

In this case CCC is it same as CSC in singapore ?
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QUOTE(jeris @ Mar 18 2016, 11:24 AM)
BF can translate to Best fren also....smile.gif
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I see death become alive~ =P
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post Mar 18 2016, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(kochin @ Mar 18 2016, 10:21 AM)
there are no unethical developer.
developer are not professionals.
they are just businessman. you need to treat them as pure profiteer with or without a moral code.

it's engineers and architect who supposedly must adhere to code of ethics under their job as professionals.

correct kah?
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Developer whos project management team if do not knw the construction code or requirement rclxms.gif their company can really go zap lap liao, i really wonder how they manage their scheduling and timeline mega_shok.gif

Yes their big boss is business man, but not their team who handling tis development....
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QUOTE(jinsailoo @ Mar 18 2016, 11:23 AM)
mr lim have block all pm via facebook and non friend cannot comment in his FB.

if you know mr lim just ask mr lim to have a PC in kopitiam,
i will sure all main stream media will come
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I believe there's a button "Add Friend"

Else what i see here.... No one is helping but good in commenting...
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post Mar 18 2016, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(huaweie5830 @ Mar 18 2016, 10:29 AM)
hmm.gif so it is different ah

In this case CCC is it same as CSC in singapore ?
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yeah something similar. Only difference is CCC in msia issued by the PSP / QP and not the local authority.

basicly its to certify the building is safe and fit for occupation.


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QUOTE(huaweie5830 @ Mar 18 2016, 11:27 AM)
laugh.gif i personally work in construction line in singapore, involve personally in those submission to Authority , including helping architect to get TOP and CSC, etc.... I beleive lots of ppl commenting here r in construction line too... We not act, we just sharing wat we knw
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Btw, i believe the clauses on the SPA is totally diff with Singapore.

Sharing but please share something is fact clauses and statement base on Malaysia info n law. Is going confuse those really question what's CCC and VP then again you guys mixed in SG terms of CCC and VP...

Wahlau eh, jialat sia !

That time, those (Not saying all, i know who are really pro) really dont know much about it but wanna be happening together... Act like another pro...with saying statement A mixed B + their thinking © into it....

this make how malaysia and malaysians is now~
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QUOTE(youknowwhoami @ Mar 18 2016, 10:35 AM)
I believe there's a button "Add Friend"

Else what i see here.... No one is helping but good in commenting...
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already press but no respond
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post Mar 18 2016, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(jinsailoo @ Mar 18 2016, 11:39 AM)
already press but no respond
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Haha! Face prob bro...

Mine approved within 10 mins.
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post Mar 18 2016, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(jonnie @ Mar 18 2016, 10:36 AM)
yeah something similar. Only difference is CCC in msia issued by the PSP / QP and not the local authority.

basicly its to certify the building is safe and fit for occupation.
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I checked with my colleague who work in sg and malaysia b4, he say CCC is TOP , yup oni different here issued by government , malaysia signed by professional

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post Mar 18 2016, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(jonnie @ Mar 18 2016, 10:36 AM)
yeah something similar. Only difference is CCC in msia issued by the PSP / QP and not the local authority.

basicly its to certify the building is safe and fit for occupation.
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Btw, something is really wrong if ccc not issued , while buyer can go take over their unit

Basically ppl r right, it is still consider as construction site if ccc not issued yet

My bad confusing VP as TOP blush.gif blush.gif blush.gif
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post Mar 18 2016, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(huaweie5830 @ Mar 18 2016, 10:32 AM)
Developer whos project management team if do not knw the construction code or requirement  rclxms.gif their company can really go zap lap liao, i really wonder how they manage their scheduling and timeline mega_shok.gif

Yes their big boss is business man, but not their team who handling tis development....
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the funny thing is, there's no specific requirement to be a manager.
even if developer hires competent staff, they can still claim ignorance.
so in the end, the poor consultants still gets the blame unfortunately.

QUOTE(youknowwhoami @ Mar 18 2016, 10:35 AM)
I believe there's a button "Add Friend"

Else what i see here.... No one is helping but good in commenting...
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the forum is designed as such that's it for sharing. nothing is taken as the gospel truth. hence one should always just read and analyse on their own.

you have claimed that you are an architect attached to MAA?
you could use your knowledge to provide constructive criticism too.
no point in bashing whoever is not knowledgeable enough or so.
sharing is caring.
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post Mar 18 2016, 10:58 AM

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post Mar 18 2016, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(kochin @ Mar 18 2016, 11:55 AM)
the funny thing is, there's no specific requirement to be a manager.
even if developer hires competent staff, they can still claim ignorance.
so in the end, the poor consultants still gets the blame unfortunately.
the forum is designed as such that's it for sharing. nothing is taken as the gospel truth. hence one should always just read and analyse on their own.

you have claimed that you are an architect attached to MAA?
you could use your knowledge to provide constructive criticism too.
no point in bashing whoever is not knowledgeable enough or so.
sharing is caring.
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Sharing is Caring this i understand, when i try to share those in correct things... Hows the outcome? KENA FLAME.

kinda disappointed actually.

From the day i start read it, 70% is just want to join the happening but has no balls like LIM

This post has been edited by youknowwhoami: Mar 18 2016, 10:59 AM

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