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post Sep 16 2010, 02:25 PM, updated 14y ago

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Yo people!! Wanted to stat a thread dedicated to Anciet, Primitive, Old(well, yeah..), and AWESOME fish that survived thousands maybe millions (I havent check yet haha biggrin.gif ) of years on our planet Earth. They are really living fossils Myself I love primitive carnivore because they look so cool when some say it looks ugly.. They're body shape is very unique and the size is one of the main reason I love them.. You can watch them grow like your own children...

Types of Primitive Freshwater fish
I followed this list from Monster Fish Keepers Website but the care list will be from various sources from the internet..
-Arowana(Discussion of this species will be held at Arowana forum not here.)
-Gars
-Knifefish
-Lungfish
-Polypterus(Bichirs and Ropefish)
-Arapaima Gigas(Not included in MFK)

Please do share your stories I'll be getting a larger tank soon hoping to stock it with arowana, clown knife fish and may be planning to breed bichirs.. Sadly I will not be able to rear lungfish any time soon due to lack of tank space...

List of members
1)BenSow- Silver Arowana
2)khairulanuar- Polypterus Endlicheri,Polypterus Lapredai,Polypterus Delhezi,Polypterus Senegalus,Polypterus Senegalus Albino,Aligator Gar,African Lungfish
3)ivanchua- Arapaima Gigas, Malaysian crossback arowana, Red, gold arowana
4)Arawin92- Arapaima Gigas
5)Mamat_Lisham- Elephantnose, Double trunk Elephantnose, BGK, African Lungfish, A tank full of loaches + Sewellia lineolata in a stream set up, Alligator Gar (3', 2' & 9")


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Gars

For this thread I will only show gars that are suitable for the normal aquaria.

Genus Atractosteus
Atractosteus tropicus—Tropical Gar- Maximum Size of 1.5M but reportedly smaller in aquaria
Very rare

Genus Lepisosteus
Lepisosteus oculatus—Spotted Gar- Mazimum size of 3ft
Long snout and spots. Spots to a higher degree towards the posterior of its body. Easily mistaken for Florida spotted gar.
Lepisosteus platostomus—Shortnose Gar
The shortnosed gar can be identified by its short snout, and by the lack of teeth rows in the upper jaw like the alligator gar, and the lack of spots on its body.
Lepisosteus platyrhincus—Florida Gar- Mazimum size of 3ft but reports say world record is at 132cm
A highly varied species of gar. Has more spots on its body and a shorter snout than many other gars. Easily mistaken for spotted gar.

Basic care for Gars

In aquariums gars are quite demanding and require a lot of space and clean water. I recommend you to use as big a tank as you can for your gar, and I wouldn’t recommend keeping gars in an aquarium smaller then 200 Gallon/720 L. And that should be considered a minimum, a 400 gallon/1400 L tank should be preferred.

The tank should be decorated in accordance to gar behaviour. Gar are ambush predators and as such they appreciate hiding places from where they can stalk their pray. This is however not necessary. They are very friendly towards fish that are too big to be eaten. In the wild gars often live in loose schools and if you have the space you may successfully keep several gars together, in fact I would like to recommend it if you have a very big space.

Gars can be kept with most kind of fishes that are too big to be considered food and not too aggressive. However, gars should never live with plecos. Plecos sometimes suck on Gars and cause infections and since gars are very sensitive to most medicines these infections may be very hard to treat.

Regarding water the most important thing is keeping the water clean and well circulated. Gars accept most pH or hardness levels. Temperature can range from 60 to 90 degrees Fahrenheit (16 – 30 degrees Celsius). Gars breathe air and should be left with a few inches of space at the top of the tank that allows them to breathe atmospheric air.

Gars usually accept most kinds of living prey that are large enough. Feeders such as goldfish provide a good base for their diet but should never be the only thing they are fed since it doesn’t provide the gars with all necessary nutrition’s. Their diet should be diversed and this can be achieved by also feeding minnows, shrimps etc. However it is also possible to train gars to accept frozen foods and pellets.

Gars can not be sexed externally and have occasionally been breed in aquariums. Gars are more frequently breed in ponds or wild caught.

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FLORIDA GAR

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Gar description http://ezinearticles.com/?Keeping-Gars----...Review&id=27621
Basic Care http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/predatory/gars.php
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Knifefish

For this part I will show only the Clown Knife and Black Ghost Knife as these are most often available.

Other Knife Species:

Chitala Chitala: Rare and endangered...not likely to be readily available to the hobby, yet the scientific name is also used to describe the Clown Knife
Chitala Blanci: Also known as the Royal Knife
Chitala Lopis: Also known as the Giant Knife or Giant Mekong Knife
Notopterus Notopterus: Also known as the Asian Featherfin, Asian Black Knife, or Bronze Knife

Distribution:
Southeast Asian...found in calm, large rivers and backwaters that are overgrown.
Clown Knife Fish are very popular as food fish in their native land throughout Asia.

Water Parameters:
PH: 5.5 to 7.0
dH Range: 2-10
Temperature: 75ºF to 82ºF (24-28°C)

General Body Form and Characteristics:
The Clown Knife Fish is nocturnal, although they do sometimes come out during the day. They are quite remarkable to watch when they swim, as they are just as comfortable swimming backwards as they are going forwards, and they are amazingly flexible. When changing direction, they can turn within their own body length and often seem as though they have no backbone. Although they are very high through the body, they are very narrow widthways. This makes it possible for them to fit through very slim spaces where most owners would think it was impossible for them to wriggle through.
They tend to be quite shy and skittish fish which can be easily startled when surprised. Unlike their South American name sake, they have very good eye sight, which enables them to be highly skilled predators. They are ambush predators so while hunting, they like to approach small fish from behind, sneaking up very slowly, then pouncing and engulfing their prey whole in their enormous mouths. They can fit much larger fish that you would think into their mouths, so they cannot be considered safe in a community tank.
They are very hardy fish once they reach a certain size, but can be sensitive to water conditions and some medications when they are smaller than 9 or 10". I have heard of many cases of young fish, 3 to 5", dying soon after they are purchased due to shock or unsuitable tank conditions.
And last, but not least, Chitala species have air breathing organs. Coming from low oxygenated waters, they have developed the ability to breathe air from the surface. So it is not uncommon for these fish to come up for the occasional air gulping.

Compatibility:
When young, these fish are comfortable in groups, but as they mature, they much prefer to live singly. Adult specimens will not tolerate another Clown Knife or similar species in their tank, though, there has been success with raising young Clown Knives together to adulthood. They also cannot be kept with smaller fish of any kind, as anything small enough to fit in their mouth will be considered as food and they will often take a snap at larger fish, just on the off chance they may get a meal out of it. Clown Knives tolerate large tankmates quite well, often ignoring attempts by territorial cichlids to chase them off. This can sometimes lead to problems with injuries being inflicted, although the clown will usually retreat to its hiding place before any major conflict occurs.

Tank Size and Aquarium Set Up:
The first thing you need to think of when it comes to this fish is that it can reach an enormous size, even in the home aquarium. They are often offered for sale as small as 3", and a lot of fish stores seem to forget to mention to the prospective owner that this cute little wiggler can reach lengths of up to 36". They can be comfortable in a 55gal tank up to around 10", but then you will need a tank that is an absolute minimum of 180 to 240 gallons and bigger is always better.
Due to their nocturnal nature, they need a place to hide during the day. A piece of pipe or a cave where they can get away from the light. Without this, they can become stressed very easily and will try to fit themselves into any dark space they can find, often causing damage to themselves. They do better with open swimming space, but they are adept as negotiating obstacles such as plants and piles of rock. In the wild, they inhabit slow moving rivers and lakes in many areas of Asia, and do well in tanks set up similar to this type of environment.
They prefer a neutral pH and softer water, but larger fish can adapt to a higher pH and hard water.

Feeding:
Clown Knife Fish can be extremely picky eaters. In their natural habitat, they are exclusive piscavores(fish as a regular diet), and this can become a problem in the home aquarium. If you start young enough, they can be trained to eat pellets and some frozen foods, but this cannot be guaranteed, so a supply of healthy live feeder fish is usually required especially in the beginning when you bring them home from the LFS. This supply can consist of pretty much anything the fish can fit in its mouth, Goldfish, Buenos Aires Tetras, Neon Tetras, small Convicts, Guppys, etc. Some other foods that will sometimes be accepted are pieces of prawn, shellfish and some meaty foods such as beefheart, although animal proteins are not considered to be very healthy for them and should only be fed occasionally. Vary your Clown Knife's diet as soon as possible. Don't let your Knife get locked onto ONE food type.

Growth Rate:
Growth rate will vary depending on various factors-
1) Tank Size
2) Water Quality
3) Diet
In the wild, they have been recorded 36" and over. Usually in aquariums, they will obtain a decent size of 18" to 24". For the most parts, I've had pretty fast growth rate for these guys...growing at an inch per month.

Coloration:
Generally silver, with a green tinge. The most striking feature are the circular markings along the middle area of the fish (ocellaris). The ollecari may increase in size and number as the fish grows. There are also Golden, Spotless, and Albino variations available.

Breeding:
Because only young fish are kept and most never reach maturity, as far as I can find out they have not been breed in an aquarium. And there are no exterior differences between males and females.
Breeding/Reproduction: Captive breeding is possible but this probably won't happen unless the fish are kept in a very large tank, in this case, that means 500 gallons or more. They are usually bred in ponds. The pair will usually lay their eggs on a flat rock with floating plants as cover. The male will aggressively guard them until they hatch in 6 or 7 days. The fry should be moved into a rearing tank and fed baby brine shrimp until they are large enough to take other foods.

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Clown Knife- Chitala Ornata

Sources
=Care and similar species written by RED DEVIL Original link: http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=301832 Thanks red devil!
=Picture: http://www.wildaboutbritain.co.uk/gallery


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Lungfish

Intro
Lungfishes can be found in Australia, South America and Africa. There exist a total of six different species divided over two families. They all share the fact that they have developed lungs which allows them to breathe air in waters with low oxygen levels.The two families of lungfishes are Lepidosirenidae (South American lungfish and African lungfish-grows to 6'/2m long) and Ceratodidae (Australian lungfish).

Hibernation
Lungfishes hibernate during dry seasons when there is little or no water at all. Usually they dig into mud and hibernate in the mud and when the wet season comes it will trigger spawning.


African Lungfish

There are 4 different species of African lungfish however the most common species to be found in the aquarium trade is
Protopterus annectens-Most common
Protopterus aethiopicus
Protopterus amphibius
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African lungfishes are easy to keep if you can dedicate a large aquarium to specimens since they accept a broad range of water values. They should preferable be kept in neutral to slightly acidic water.They eat anything that is offered to them including dry food. (You might have to train them before they accept dry food.) If a food source is too large to fit in their mouth they eat pieces out of it, this includes other larger living fishes. So don't assume that a fish is safe with your African lungfish just because it is too big to fit in its mouth.

Australian Lungfish-Neoceratodus forsteri
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They have very small eyes and a long thick body which is covered in large scales. They are usually olive-green to brown with dark spots on the sides. The species is CITES protected but there are licensed breeders from which they can be bought. They grow upto 5ft/1.5m and weigh over 40kg. The Australian lungfish has unlike other lungfish only one lung.

Australian lungfish should when kept in aquarium be kept alone in a large aquarium with a neutral to slightly acidic water. They will eat anything meaty and their natural diet consists of frogs, tadpoles, small fishes, snails, shrimp and also vegetable parts. They detect prey by using their sense of smell and detecting electrical impulses.There are no reports of successful breedings in aquariums. They spawn during the night and it takes the fry 3 weeks to hatch. The fry grows slowly.

There also exist a few albino specimens of this fish. Those are however very rare and extremely expensive.

South American Lungfish-Lepidosiren paradoxa.
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The South American lungfish grows to be 1.2 m / 4 feet. South American lungfish can be kept in aquarium in the same way as other lungfishes.

They require a large aquarium which shouldn't house any other fishes due to their predatory and aggressive nature. The water should be neutral to slightly acidic. They accept any meaty food and you might be able to get them to accept dry food. Be sure to feed a diverse diet containing fish, crayfish, shrimp, and earth worms

There are no known successful breeding of South American lungfish in aquarium. They spawn during the rainy season and the male builds a nest in which the eggs are deposited. The male then guard the eggs and the young against other predators, egg eaters etc. The fry spend their first 6-8 weeks hanging from vegetation using adhesive glands. These glands are not present in older fishes.

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i love black ghost knife fish.
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Arapaima gigas is under CatII in cites listing and same goes with Neoceratodus forsteri i.e Aussie Lung.
Both type are controlled items for future conservation to prevent them from future extinction.
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QUOTE(seandavidz @ Sep 17 2010, 12:12 PM)
Arapaima gigas is under CatII in cites listing and same goes with Neoceratodus forsteri i.e Aussie Lung.
Both type are controlled items for future conservation to prevent them from future extinction.
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I thought the bulk of Arapaima you see in our Malaysian market are locally bred ??

Aussie lung-fish will cost an arm and a leg be it WC or CB , go for African sp like P.annectens quite cheap and quite often available in our market !!
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QUOTE(SAMPERTH @ Sep 17 2010, 01:12 PM)
I thought the bulk of Arapaima you see in our Malaysian market are locally bred ??

Aussie lung-fish will cost an arm and a leg be it WC or CB , go for African sp like P.annectens quite cheap and quite often available in our market !!
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Locally breed arapaima ? But still under CatII.
Totally agreed on the arm and leg for Aussie Lung.




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abt d gifas i nr sure.. the lung oso... my lfs sellling lungfish d for e rm100 is tat african?
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Thanks for sharing! mind listing the full list? So i can add you to the member list thumbup.gif


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QUOTE(khairulanuar @ Sep 17 2010, 05:56 PM)
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I just saw you have a lungfish!! How much did you get him for and how big is he?

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Anyone keeping clown knife fish? anymore people keeping primitive fish species?
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QUOTE(BenSow @ Sep 17 2010, 06:40 PM)
Thanks for sharing! mind listing the full list? So i can add you to the member list thumbup.gif


Added on September 17, 2010, 8:47 pm

I just saw you have a lungfish!! How much did you get him for and how big is he?
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i get him for rm150...the size is about 1feet +++

youre interested in it? i let go to you


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QUOTE(BenSow @ Sep 18 2010, 01:25 PM)
Anyone keeping clown knife fish? anymore people keeping primitive fish species?
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i keep it long times ago...after they get bigger i give them to my friend...

now i kept just two knife fish... the normal knife fish and the one i think it a african knife... smile.gif

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I keep Potamotrygon Stingray ( I think they are monster fish too brows.gif )
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lol my favs r primitive fish, catfish from south america, and rays! XP
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black ghost knife fish oso being called as under water puppy, bcz of their behavior. get one and explore the beauty of it. u will be more gladful to admit it. =D
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QUOTE(SAMPERTH @ Sep 17 2010, 01:12 PM)
I thought the bulk of Arapaima you see in our Malaysian market are locally bred ??

Aussie lung-fish will cost an arm and a leg be it WC or CB , go for African sp like P.annectens quite cheap and quite often available in our market !!
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bro where do find the african lung? i want to buy the small one..how much do you get for african lung?


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lol my favs r primitive fish, catfish from south america, and rays! XP
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dude did u ever heard of the african pike? i see 1 at lfs at selayang....really hope to have it smile.gif

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konbawa>> I had one before oh how cute is he but pity him I couldnt find a suitable hiding spot the only place he hide in is a small PVC pipe... he ended being eaten by my snakehead cry.gif

khairul>> african pike doesnt WOW me though... looks like yellow panchax LOL


Added on September 21, 2010, 10:16 pmand lol im having PMR in 2 weeks... so the other fish care profiles have to wait... sorry guys

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QUOTE(BenSow @ Sep 21 2010, 10:14 PM)
konbawa>> I had one before oh how cute is he but pity him I couldnt find a suitable hiding spot the only place he hide in is a small PVC pipe... he ended being eaten by my snakehead cry.gif


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so sad for both of u, BGK are simply too tame. but don giv up for them, of coz, not wit fierce tankmates in future. all the best in shading up the correct answer, PMR. ;D
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QUOTE(BenSow @ Sep 21 2010, 10:14 PM)
konbawa>> I had one before oh how cute is he but pity him I couldnt find a suitable hiding spot the only place he hide in is a small PVC pipe... he ended being eaten by my snakehead cry.gif

khairul>> african pike doesnt WOW me though... looks like yellow panchax LOL


Added on September 21, 2010, 10:16 pmand lol im having PMR in 2 weeks... so the other fish care profiles have to wait... sorry guys
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Black Ghost always be my poly food...pity them biggrin.gif

but AFrican pike very rare here brows.gif i saw one at selayang about 1 feet long.... smile.gif

gud luck for your PMR son...hahahaha
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After pmr no. 1 priority>>>>> go PUDU ALIVE AQUARIUM to see wat monsters they stock thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(BenSow @ Sep 22 2010, 10:42 PM)
After pmr no. 1 priority>>>>> go PUDU ALIVE AQUARIUM to see wat monsters they stock thumbup.gif
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bro pudu sometimes got nice fish, go to xian leng at seksyen 2, shah alam. irene aquarium seksyen 16 PJ. Aquatic International,Kampong Baru Subang.
you will not regret
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skesyen seksyen too far bro.. jus 15 here tongue.gif
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QUOTE(BenSow @ Sep 23 2010, 10:09 PM)
skesyen seksyen too far bro.. jus 15 here tongue.gif
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bring along your parent kids..lol....at lfs shah alam they may like it...it a huge lfs there....
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they dont give a damn abt fish thats why im having a prob maintaining my hobby
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QUOTE(khairulanuar @ Sep 17 2010, 05:56 PM)
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why is this ikan naga look different ya??
different species??
i think its hard to find this species in the aquarium shop..
i'm very interested with the colour look like phyton.. thumbup.gif
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bichir... tat one easy to find.... but not at all stores.... Most common is Senelagus and albino senalagus... Endli so far I think i saw once oni...
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Black ghost knife fish =D

being one of the ancient fish, the optimistic attitude of BGK will surely amaze its owner. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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yea.. easily handfed too.. added that they are piscavores... meaning they eat fish as usual diet... I love watching fish eat fish tongue.gif

2moro's my pmr.. wish me luck guys
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QUOTE(Budak Pengantar @ Oct 4 2010, 05:54 PM)
why is this ikan naga look different ya??
different species??
i think its hard to find this species in the aquarium shop..
i'm very interested with the colour look like phyton.. thumbup.gif
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wish one bro?
polypterus endlicheri or polypterus lapredei or polypterus delhezi? smile.gif
endlicheri is easy to find the small one..rm28...but if you find the big one the price can reach RM200-300

polypterus delhezi also u can find..but not all store have it..

lapredei: last time they came in huge quantity but now day its become rare again wink.gif
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QUOTE(khairulanuar @ Sep 22 2010, 10:14 AM)
Black Ghost always be my poly food...pity them biggrin.gif

but AFrican pike very rare here brows.gif i saw one at selayang about 1 feet long.... smile.gif

gud luck for your PMR son...hahahaha
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african pike haha.. bro.. u really got good taste!
african pike is cheap! i have it in stock!!! email me.. biggrin.gif
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wow what else u have bro?
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what fish ur looking for?
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juruense catfish
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QUOTE(BenSow @ Oct 13 2010, 12:34 AM)
juruense catfish
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dude do you meant this fish Brachyplatystoma tigrinum?

its will cost you 1k++ biggrin.gif
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no no... thats juruense cousin.. Im talking abt Brachyplatystoma Juruense... Cost aroud RM150-200 oni...

Wow I finally saw my first pike.. I saw northen pike at alive aquarium pudu.. quite nice oh...
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QUOTE(BenSow @ Oct 13 2010, 09:07 PM)
no no... thats juruense cousin.. Im talking abt Brachyplatystoma Juruense... Cost aroud RM150-200 oni...

Wow I finally saw my first pike.. I saw northen pike at alive aquarium pudu.. quite nice oh...
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i have seen them last month.. biggrin.gif


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haha I also saw something awesome... 2-3ft of CLOWN KNIFE FISH... theyre HUGE
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QUOTE(BenSow @ Oct 14 2010, 09:45 PM)
haha I also saw something awesome... 2-3ft of CLOWN KNIFE FISH... theyre HUGE
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they are fast growing fish.. last time i have 5 knife fish. 1fst time i bought them is about 4-5incehs..less than 6 month there growing to 1feet++...


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QUOTE(BenSow @ Oct 14 2010, 09:45 PM)
haha I also saw something awesome... 2-3ft of CLOWN KNIFE FISH... theyre HUGE
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u need to check out the albino variant. imagine if u have a 2ft. albino clown knife, its even rarer!

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khairulanuar:

tigrinum and juruense catfish is a different fish la.. lol

helangkawi:

a common clown knife fish at 8" (with average 7 spots on both sides) will only price around RM10-15. Very affordable fish biggrin.gif
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albino nice oo.. so do u have juruense?
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QUOTE(BenSow @ Oct 15 2010, 08:39 PM)
albino nice oo.. so do u have juruense?
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real fish looks nicer bro.. biggrin.gif

juruense i have but due the my higher cost. i wont take in this fish, wont even wanna sell.
in fact.. i have albino clown knife.

size wise, i have larger specimen. ranging from 9-12"
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Dude u open fish shop? must be awesome to be you thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(BenSow @ Oct 15 2010, 08:50 PM)
Dude u open fish shop? must be awesome to be you thumbup.gif
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sadly i dont bro.. maybe soon, need to bring up the interest of current fish keepers first.
haha.. i am just importing these rare species myself to help serving us, the primitive / rare / monster fish keepers or lovers in Malaysia!

bro BenSow.. allow me to help you transform this thread into a more interesting fishy thread! haha..
Here's some rare fish from me(sorry for some unclear pics), check it out and more to come!!! stay tune.. icon_idea.gif


Burmese Peacock Snakehead (Channa pulchra)
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Red Tail Payara (Hydrocylus tatauaia)
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and for the wolf fish craver... rclxm9.gif

Mala Wolf Fish (Hoplias malabaricus)
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payara!! nice!! Ive been looking high and low for ppl like u!!! UGPM rclxm9.gif
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LOL! THERE YOU ARE. NICE FISH U GOT THERE! =D
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haha!!


Added on October 15, 2010, 10:52 pmGuys Im thinking of NTT datnoid and juruense catfish.. catfish will eat datnoid?


Added on October 15, 2010, 11:28 pm@joshua>> im interested in anything that is rare, exotic, ancient fish better and from the MAZON, wat hav u got excpet the ones listed?

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QUOTE(BenSow @ Oct 15 2010, 10:52 PM)
haha!!


Added on October 15, 2010, 10:52 pmGuys Im thinking of NTT datnoid and juruense catfish.. catfish will eat datnoid?


Added on October 15, 2010, 11:28 pm@joshua>> im interested in anything that is rare, exotic, ancient fish better and from the MAZON, wat hav u got excpet the ones listed?
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Depending on the size of your catfishes mouth and also the length of ur datnoid bro.. datnoids are shy and slow swimmers, if the size u obtain is small. chances of being eaten will be pretty high! lol

ok fishes from amazon. i have discus, altum angels, predatory characins like wolf fishes, dog characin, and then brachyplatystoma cats, rare plecos, cichla. many more.
from congo river i have GATF, VATF, lungfishes etc.. the rare ones are GATF and VATF! very high demand!!! and its a must buy for all rare fish keepers!


Added on October 16, 2010, 11:32 amBefore i go for fish hunting,

Here's some tigers i wanna share..


Vittatus African Tiger Fish aka VATF (Hydrocynus vittatus)
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MORE TIGERS!!!

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not interested lol.. GATF as in Giant African Tiger fish?? wow...


Added on October 16, 2010, 11:54 amcichla and lunfish wat have u got?

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joshua : selling those tigers? my pond kinda feel empty nowadays smile.gif
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arghhhh~~ I dunno wat to buy frm joshua!! >.<


Added on October 16, 2010, 1:07 pmhey guys i nid some tips...

for 6'x4'x3' fiberglass tank should I choose black or white colour? and substrate i would like to use the cheapest kind of sand possible which I presume its normal light brown sand so should i buy black or white?

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QUOTE(BenSow @ Oct 16 2010, 11:54 AM)
not interested lol.. GATF as in Giant African Tiger fish?? wow...


Added on October 16, 2010, 11:54 amcichla and lunfish wat have u got?
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Here's the relative of the VATF..

Goliath African Tiger Fish aka GATF (Hydrocynus goliath)
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Notice the longer producing snout and strip-less silver colored body.

and here's a large specimen video from MFK.

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Ben check out this site:
lots of rare fish here.. see which cichla and lunfishes you are looking for..
www.aquariumphoto.dk

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so many types of rare fish i duno which one to choose >.< mayb th dream fish of mine i still dunno wat is it yet tongue.gif im not vry wide-knowledged on rare fish
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QUOTE(camillenoir @ Oct 16 2010, 12:00 PM)
joshua : selling those tigers? my pond kinda feel empty nowadays smile.gif
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yup tongue.gif

u have any fishes in your pond? lets say japanese koi? can mix though.
seriously these tigers dont act like the piranhas.. they wont snap your fingers off. they are not ferocious, just that the way they grab preys and chewing them bite by bite is terrifying.

another video of (owner diving in to record) plenty of rare fish (including bichirs, datnoids, african tigers, cichlas and some rare monster cats!) in pond.. CHECK OUT HIS COLLECTION!! drool.gif


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thy dont look insteresting to me lol... prefer something more ANCITENT and more odd shaped.. tat looks like a stretched barb lol
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QUOTE(BenSow @ Oct 16 2010, 12:09 PM)
arghhhh~~ I dunno wat to buy frm joshua!! >.<


Added on October 16, 2010, 1:07 pmhey guys i nid some tips...

for 6'x4'x3' fiberglass tank should I choose black or white colour? and substrate i would like to use the cheapest kind of sand possible which I presume its normal light brown sand so should i buy black or white?
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Slowly decide la Ben.. hehe..

btw, for the fiberglass tank, what kinda fish u planning to keep inside?

i kept my hoplias intermedius in a 4feet fiber tank, with 3 asian arowanas which he doesnt really like it even if i provide him lots of PVC pipes to hide.

well.. it depends on setup also, since your planning to add in light brown sand.. i would say go for the WHITE ones.. easier to sell it off also if u decide not to use the fiber tank anymore laugh.gif
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im planning on 6'x4'x3'
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QUOTE(BenSow @ Oct 17 2010, 12:17 AM)
thy dont look insteresting to me lol... prefer something more ANCITENT and more odd shaped.. tat looks like a stretched barb lol
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well different fish keepers got different preference ma bro.. laugh.gif

before i even start keeping all these fierce looking freshwater predators i was once a discus lover and a marine fish keepers. i breed many discus variant even some marine clown and damsel fishes.
till then i gave it all up and go for the extreme.. lol. rclxm9.gif


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im planning on 6'x4'x3'
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6 X 4 X 3 is huge..

hmm.. perhaps some african arowana (Heterotis niloticus)? since your eye-ing on primitive rare fishes. hehehe..

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i have a silver aro on hand now
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QUOTE(BenSow @ Oct 17 2010, 12:40 AM)
i have a silver aro on hand now
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what about this combo of collection? except the goliath tiger. biggrin.gif


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Added on October 17, 2010, 1:53 amsome fishes to share before bed.. Takifugu ocellatus, some rare plecos and Hepsetus odoe that will be shipped to me this coming wednesday..

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wow how many tanks do you have??? Since Im stocking one tank only so its quite a challenge.. if its multiple tanks ill choose many many fish which is easier tongue.gif

African arowana looks nice... doing some research on it now...


Added on October 17, 2010, 1:09 pmHow much are cichla temensis, Armatus, african aro and wat is the cheapest stingray u have?


Added on October 17, 2010, 1:59 pmand how much is shipping of the fish? interested on importing some too.... And im only 15 tongue.gif legal for me to import fish?

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QUOTE(BenSow @ Oct 17 2010, 01:06 PM)
wow how many tanks do you have??? Since Im stocking one tank only so its quite a challenge.. if its multiple tanks ill choose many many fish which is easier tongue.gif

African arowana looks nice... doing some research on it now...


Added on October 17, 2010, 1:09 pmHow much are cichla temensis, Armatus, african aro and wat is the cheapest stingray u have?


Added on October 17, 2010, 1:59 pmand how much is shipping of the fish? interested on importing some too.... And im only 15 tongue.gif legal for me to import fish?
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African arowana are NOT like normal asian or south american arowana. they dont prey on fishes. so.. do some homework bro.. hehe..

c.temensis i have large specimen only, h.armatus expect RM500 and above (rare and highly priced fish), h.niloticus need to check, cheapest stingray i have full-spotted chain-ring black motoro (p.motoro), RM270, 6 inch disc + long tail..

shipping fishes? lol. minimum USD150 will be gone tansporting these guys over by plane ONLY! Plus all the highly priced rare fish, DOA around 10% might be more if from other non generous exporter, sometimes even 90% DOA. Lots of documentation to be done, approval from fishery department before u can think of imports. So do the maths and you will know why Malaysia have less than i would dare to say.. 2% of ultra rare-fish importers? lol. Yet many of the fish keepers says, "Why so expensive one?" (which ppl did not think of where our Ringgit Malaysia stands in trading).... "I rather buy asian arowana!"... etc etc.. Therefore after so many years, we're all still stucked at this level of fish keeping.
Guppies (not higher range Moscow Black, Full red albino etc), discus (not even heckel, wild variant), goldfishes, arowana (african arowana?), common barbs, characins (payara, wolf fishes?) common cats (red-tail cats only??) and all the ciplak fishes only =.= shakehead.gif
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yeap doing my homework on african aro... Understand they have to be fed frequently...

c.tememsis large specimen=?

I think ill sell off my silver aro... so that I can get all young fishes then watch them grow...

Wow like this u must be rich lor... lucky guy smile.gif

How many tanks do you have?


Added on October 17, 2010, 8:56 pmseriously dude where do u get the space for so many fish?

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QUOTE(joshualim86 @ Oct 15 2010, 09:10 PM)
sadly i dont bro.. maybe soon, need to bring up the interest of current fish keepers first.
haha.. i am just importing these rare species myself to help serving us, the primitive / rare / monster fish keepers or lovers in Malaysia!

bro BenSow.. allow me to help you transform this thread into a more interesting fishy thread! haha..
Here's some rare fish from me(sorry for some unclear pics), check it out and more to come!!! stay tune.. icon_idea.gif

and for the wolf fish craver... rclxm9.gif
QUOTE(BenSow @ Oct 15 2010, 10:52 PM)
haha!!


Added on October 15, 2010, 10:52 pmGuys Im thinking of NTT datnoid and juruense catfish.. catfish will eat datnoid?


Added on October 15, 2010, 11:28 pm@joshua>> im interested in anything that is rare, exotic, ancient fish better and from the MAZON, wat hav u got excpet the ones listed?
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Wow what a nice chat you'll have...

Ben >>> How PMR? better not mix the catfish fish with small datnoid bro...they can easily fir in the catfish mouth..

Joshua >>> please give all the forum's any information regarding RARE FISH biggrin.gif
P/S Waiting my exodon and redtail barracuda thumbup.gif


Added on October 18, 2010, 9:20 am
QUOTE(joshualim86 @ Oct 17 2010, 12:28 AM)
well different fish keepers got different preference ma bro.. laugh.gif

hmm.. perhaps some african arowana (Heterotis niloticus)?  since your eye-ing on primitive rare fishes. hehehe..

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bro is this the real picture of the african arowana u have? did you have the polypterus back there?

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How I miss my community tank - the Dorado especially ( cant seems to find them anymore)
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LOL Ben, slow down ler, don't get too excited and start to sell off your stuffs to get something else. most people who rush into things don't stay long in the hobby... any hobby wink.gif

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lol im nt rushing....i planned on selling my fish foer sometime oredi..
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HOW ABOUT ABA ABA ? I know a guy who have 4 nos of them . Perhaps if u r interested we can go together to get good price .


anyone interested with gars ...and other rare fishes here ? the aquatic international have quite number of rare fishes / eels .

We can go together and share the petrol cost.


Added on October 18, 2010, 8:22 pmby the way anyone knows where to get primitive dragon goby ?


Added on October 18, 2010, 11:50 pm
QUOTE(joshualim86 @ Oct 17 2010, 02:19 AM)
what about this combo of collection? except the goliath tiger. biggrin.gif


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Added on October 17, 2010, 1:53 amsome fishes to share before bed.. Takifugu ocellatus, some rare plecos and Hepsetus odoe that will be shipped to me this coming wednesday..

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is that green spotted puffer fish . NVR MIX THAT f***ER WITH ANYTHING !



Puffer vs arowana 10 times bigger than him = arowana lose

Puffer vs HUGE bandaraya fish = huge bandaraya fish gg

Puffer vs Huge cray fish = broken arm and death

My damn bloody watersnake is sked of puffer .

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QUOTE(khairulanuar @ Oct 18 2010, 09:09 AM)
Wow what a nice chat you'll have...

Ben >>> How PMR?  better not mix the catfish fish with small datnoid bro...they can easily fir in the catfish mouth..

Joshua >>> please give all the forum's any information regarding RARE FISH  biggrin.gif
P/S Waiting my exodon and redtail barracuda  thumbup.gif


Added on October 18, 2010, 9:20 am
bro is this the real picture of the african arowana u have? did you have the polypterus back there?
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Bro Khairul,

Your Bucktooth Tetra (Exodon paradoxus) order already buthen i didnt manage to obtain the Red Tail Barracuda (Acestrorhynchus falcatus). Sorry cry.gif
but i have this Yellow Tail Barracuda (Acestrorhynchus falcirostris), fish around 7inch. Didn't see before right? lol.
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it will grow to max: 40cm based on my reading and look something like this..
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That African Arowana (Heterotis niloticus) isn't my fish. Just an illustration smile.gif
Polyterus have to check..


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How I miss my community tank - the Dorado especially ( cant seems to find them anymore)
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Dorado.. Nice!
Well.. plenty are available at Xian Leng shah alam.. do check that out biggrin.gif


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lol im nt rushing....i planned on selling my fish foer sometime oredi..
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Ben,

I would suggest you NOT to sell of ur current collection but to further increase your collection.
Especially the silver arowana.. get some nice tank mates and i'm sure your tank will look great and complete smile.gif


Added on October 19, 2010, 2:37 am
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HOW ABOUT ABA ABA ? I know a guy who have 4 nos of them . Perhaps if u r interested we can go together to get good price .
anyone interested with gars ...and other rare fishes here ? the aquatic international have quite number of rare fishes / eels .

We can go together and share the petrol cost.


Added on October 18, 2010, 8:22 pmby the way anyone knows where to get primitive dragon goby ?


Added on October 18, 2010, 11:50 pm

is that green spotted puffer fish . NVR MIX THAT f***ER WITH ANYTHING !
Puffer vs arowana 10 times bigger than him = arowana lose

Puffer vs HUGE bandaraya fish = huge bandaraya fish gg

Puffer vs Huge cray fish = broken arm and death

My damn bloody watersnake is sked of puffer .
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Aba aba.. hmm... Kepong Kin Fatt Aquarium stock them.. RM25-30 if not mistaken. check it out..

and some info for the Dragon worm goby (Gobioides broussonetti). I brought in a few before RM90 per fish, 7 inch size.
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Haha.. and ur right with that Takifugu ocellatus puffer fish..
Guys take note.. this puffer CANNOT com with any fishes except for their own species.. The puffer lovers will love this fish due to the way they behave.. it's "cute"..
it wont kill your fish (unless its smaller than him) this fishes are extremely bad ass.. they like ripping of any fishes fins.. so DO NOT mix with any fish! DO NOT catch them with bare hands.. 1 bite will send you straight to hell..


Added on October 19, 2010, 3:09 amhere are some exotic catfishes..

guess what are they.. icon_idea.gif

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Ben should be able to answer one of these.. laugh.gif

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QUOTE(SAMPERTH @ Oct 18 2010, 06:38 PM)
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How I miss my community tank - the Dorado especially ( cant seems to find them anymore)
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go to shop at jln pasar. they have two dorados

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Samperth is based in East Malaysia, so i supposed recommendations for LFS in West Malaysia will not do much help for him smile.gif
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lemme guess.. the lower one is ornate pim? How much? drool.gif


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HOW ABOUT ABA ABA ? I know a guy who have 4 nos of them . Perhaps if u r interested we can go together to get good price .
anyone interested with gars ...and other rare fishes here ? the aquatic international have quite number of rare fishes / eels .

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Would love to follow!! Anyone else?

@joshualim>> How much is yellow tail barracuda and african arowana?

Still doing research on afro(african arowana)... Anyone know where to get live black worms?


Added on October 19, 2010, 10:39 amAnd anyone knows where to get mysid shrimp?

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QUOTE(BenSow @ Oct 19 2010, 10:12 AM)

@joshualim>> How much is yellow tail barracuda and african arowana?

Still doing research on afro(african arowana)... Anyone know where to get live black worms?


Added on October 19, 2010, 10:39 amAnd anyone knows where to get mysid shrimp?
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BEN>>> Joshua let me help you.... ben the yellow tail much2 expensive then redtail...its about 400++ biggrin.gif


Joshua>>> Already get 1 redtail barrac at Jln. Pasar biggrin.gif

Waiting your exodon.... thumbup.gif



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where??? i went to jln pasar one week ago.. all i see is northen pike and fire eel that amazed me...
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QUOTE(camillenoir @ Oct 19 2010, 09:07 AM)
Samperth is based in East Malaysia, so i supposed recommendations for LFS in West Malaysia will not do much help for him  smile.gif
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Alaaa... Yaka??? sorry man icon_rolleyes.gif


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where??? i went to jln pasar one week ago.. all i see is northen pike and fire eel that amazed me...
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at PUDU ALIVE AQUARIUM la bro...only 1 have..i buy it already...1st its come last weekend...only left is dorados smile.gif

want to buy it...but i think its not suitable in my tank..my tank is too small...at least need 6feet tank


Added on October 19, 2010, 2:27 pmBen>> want to but my african lungfish??? special price for you...

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haha wats special price and hw big is he?
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QUOTE(BenSow @ Oct 19 2010, 08:19 PM)
haha wats special price and hw big is he?
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since im at home lemme finish the basic care of the fishes smile.gif


Added on October 20, 2010, 11:14 amok... after asking few people here's a rough price of the fish im planning to get..

African aro- RM300
Juruense catfish- RM150-180
Motoro ray- RM270
Lungfish- RM100
Cichla something still dunno tongue.gif
NTT datnoid- RM25

That totals upto more than RM800.. holy where am i gonna get that sum of money in 2 months TnT

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QUOTE(BenSow @ Oct 20 2010, 10:31 AM)
since im at home lemme finish the basic care of the fishes smile.gif


Added on October 20, 2010, 11:14 amok... after asking few people here's a rough price of the fish im planning to get..

African aro- RM300
Juruense catfish- RM150-180
Motoro ray- RM270
Lungfish- RM100
Cichla something still dunno tongue.gif
NTT datnoid- RM25

That totals upto more than RM800.. holy where am i gonna get that sum of money in 2 months TnT
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You can save RM20 For the Lungfish thumbup.gif
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anyone bought anything frm Marble Goby Enterprise b4? They're feeder fish stock and canvas tank are impressive
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QUOTE(BenSow @ Oct 20 2010, 10:31 AM)
since im at home lemme finish the basic care of the fishes smile.gif


Added on October 20, 2010, 11:14 amok... after asking few people here's a rough price of the fish im planning to get..

African aro- RM300
Juruense catfish- RM150-180
Motoro ray- RM270
Lungfish- RM100
Cichla something still dunno tongue.gif
NTT datnoid- RM25

That totals upto more than RM800.. holy where am i gonna get that sum of money in 2 months TnT
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Vampire tetra

Redtail Payara



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YOUR MOTORO CAN GET ABOUT 200 . OR CHEAPER .


the qian hu selling at rm 200 ( without discount ) but the f***erz only selling to shop owners . No retailing T T


Added on October 20, 2010, 3:53 pmRed tail fire eel i got for rm 25 anyone interested .. ?


Added on October 20, 2010, 3:56 pmJuruense catfish- RM150-180 ( got this expensive ) ? i got it at rm 18 each .

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Added on October 20, 2010, 3:56 pmJuruense catfish- RM150-180 ( got this expensive ) ? i got it at rm 18 each .
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i think you got a wrong fish man.....

this are rare fish...shouldnt be that cheap...lol
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u call ur LFS order frm qianhu la.. but pay more....

@akidos- WTF smile.gif i was originally quoted rm280 then someone told me its rm150-180... rm18 i think its Tiger Shovelnose
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@akidos- WTF smile.gif i was originally quoted rm280 then someone told me its rm150-180...
Wats the size of your Juru @ 150-180 ??

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QUOTE(BenSow @ Oct 20 2010, 09:37 PM)
u call ur LFS order frm qianhu la.. but pay more....

@akidos- WTF smile.gif i was originally quoted rm280 then someone told me its rm150-180... rm18 i think its Tiger Shovelnose
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my bad its tiger shovelnose .
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QUOTE(khairulanuar @ Oct 20 2010, 02:26 PM)
my wish list:

Vampire tetra

Redtail Payara
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ALL the Hydrocylus species are Vampire tetras wor.. laugh.gif
so wanna collect all ar? LOL


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QUOTE(BenSow @ Oct 20 2010, 10:31 AM)
since im at home lemme finish the basic care of the fishes smile.gif


Added on October 20, 2010, 11:14 amok... after asking few people here's a rough price of the fish im planning to get..

African aro- RM300
Juruense catfish- RM150-180
Motoro ray- RM270
Lungfish- RM100
Cichla something still dunno tongue.gif
NTT datnoid- RM25

That totals upto more than RM800.. holy where am i gonna get that sum of money in 2 months TnT
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Ben here's some information for u.

if u like gold colour...
go for c.kelberi.. if u like gold with blue-ish refection go for c.orinocensis..
the common ones are c.temensis and c.monoculus..
information obtain from my supplier smile.gif

c.kelberi large one can fetch price as high as USD250 medium about USD150 (marketprice).. easy to sell at this price somore! applies to other countries..

to sell in such fish msia?? i dont know if it works!
many will reply "adult cichla in msia only RM30+ la.." "good luck on ur sale" bla bla bla.. whatsoever..

so please ppl! if u think ur fishy knowledge is damn hell of a good.. go travel around the world b4 u even dare to reply! look at the japanese, taiwan and US market.. look at the fishes ppl are keeping over there. many are wild caught exotic fish! price were indeed high as i could imagine!
do some research first and stop having the mind set of (i can get cheaper fish out there) before knowing the origin of the fish, species, collection area etc etc!

yes wild fishes should be cheap because collectors can just collect anytime they like.. but bear in mind that places like Amazon are just totally dangerous. there are caymans, predator fishes like piranhas, water snakes etc.. and it's called "risk"!

we are falling back due to price sensitivity... just here to share information to those who wanna know more.

cheers!


Added on October 21, 2010, 3:37 pmA long list of ultra rare fish for today!

Hognosed Cory (Brochis multiradiatus) these are NOT available in msia.. with this massive size? EVEN RARER!
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Guess what loach are they..
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obviously some L25 aka... Scarlet Cactus Pleco rclxms.gif
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It's not red-tail cat.. it's not a cross between RTC or shovelnose.. what is it?
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These are tiny little monster that hides in sand and prey on fishes from below. Not salt water! Max size around 20cm! Guess what are they!
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Chinese Tigers (Elopicthys bambusa)
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Max size? DONT ASK! Pictures taken from wikipedia as illustration purposes!
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anyone into gulper catfish ? u guys know where to get and the price . one of the shop guy willing to let go at rm 500
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anyone into gulper catfish ?  u guys know where to get and the price . one of the shop guy willing to let go at rm 500
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thats very cheap! check if its at greatest condition! if everything ok grab it seriously! great bargain!
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joshua when you gonna oder the exodon again?
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joshua when you gonna oder the exodon again?
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u try keeping this batch first.. if its nice keeping give me some review or let me know here. Coz these are all wild, we can only judge the fish up to 100% only once they have settle down but still.. so far so good.. no fighting smile.gif

come my place on sat.. u see what fish u interested.. if price ok. i bring in. if too high.. i dare not touch unless the quality if good! biggrin.gif
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jardini, siamese tiger, yellow tail barracuda..

I jus went to pudu today... khairul.. is the dorado RM200 and labeled as scientific name one? when u go down the stairs the tank directly in front of u?
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my wish list:

Vampire tetra

Redtail Payara
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let me fullfill your wish... come get the payara at my shop for rmRM280 TOMORROW! only 1 day offer...


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QUOTE(BenSow @ Oct 20 2010, 10:31 AM)
since im at home lemme finish the basic care of the fishes smile.gif


Added on October 20, 2010, 11:14 amok... after asking few people here's a rough price of the fish im planning to get..

African aro- RM300
Juruense catfish- RM150-180
Motoro ray- RM270
Lungfish- RM100
Cichla something still dunno tongue.gif
NTT datnoid- RM25

That totals upto more than RM800.. holy where am i gonna get that sum of money in 2 months TnT
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i can get you everything you want in your list too Ben.. BTW!! Got a 6 footer 2nd Hand tank within your given budget earlier on... interested, you know the number to call... thumbup.gif


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How I miss my community tank - the Dorado especially ( cant seems to find them anymore)
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i can find them, in fact, i have them available for you.. thumbup.gif

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Mr jason.... Juruenseeee.... u said u look for it until now no reply lol but im nt rushing... nt so early buy yet jz planning smile.gif
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ggming,

send me price for:

Hydrocynus goliath
Hydrocylus armatus
Hydrocylus tatauaia
Hoplias aimara
Brachyplatystoma tigrinum
Pterophyllum altum
L46

if price ok. i take.

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this thread is awesome guys.. thanks =)
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QUOTE(joshualim86 @ Oct 22 2010, 11:40 PM)
ggming,

send me price for:

Hydrocynus goliath
Hydrocylus armatus
Hydrocylus tatauaia
Hoplias aimara
Brachyplatystoma tigrinum
Pterophyllum altum
L46

if price ok. i take.
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noted.... u seem to be able to source as well,

goliath 9-10" , got to check availability but expect above 2k (i know its expensive but small ones drop easily.. well, at least in my previous experience


armatus 6-8" RM350
Tataunia 8-9" RM280 (since i offer akidos this price, offer you this price as well)
airmara will let u know got stock or not..
tigrinum 5"-8" ard Rm400-Rm600 depending on pattern and size.. i think now no stock
ahhh.... altums... any specific size?
L46.. size? male and female? btw, 1pcs confirmed male and 1 pcs confirmed female going for ard RM1300

anything else, you can contact me thru number on sig..
also available, gulper cat, flavicans cat, rainbow wolf..

cichlas, rays, L-numbers, aro, and etc can be sourced if given time...

apistos, central americans, malawi, tanganyika cichlids too.....

crayfish, shrimps, crabs and hermits also got.....

exotic pets also can get.... you name it, i try to my very best to get it...



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QUOTE(BenSow @ Oct 22 2010, 10:45 PM)
Mr jason.... Juruenseeee.... u said u look for it until now no reply lol but im nt rushing... nt so early buy yet jz planning smile.gif
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i know you not ready to buy.... thats why never get back to you... please understand price change with time... to prevent misunderstanding, best to call and enquire when you are ready to purchase to i can quote accordingly...

icon_rolleyes.gif also salminus maxillosus very hard to get now...

what i mean by hard to get is, hard to get nice specimens... like nice fins,not crooked ones...

i'm a very fussy person, if its not up to the quality, i simply wont get it.. if u get anything from me, i assure quality.. some time, my price will be higher, but u pay extra for quality... i get something with crooked fins and such, no one buys, i rugi big time... also, i sell quality stuff, ppl also return la..

if you are not a person who demands quality leh, then i'm not the person you are seeking for... laugh.gif

anyway Ben, you are getting hooked big time... i can tell....ahhahahahaha

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oo wat cayfish do u have? african arowana? I need the agak-agak pricing to plan smile.gif
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seriously, ask me for the price when u r ready to buy... african aro sets you back around 250-300
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the size? I have to plan first then try to get a part time job to earn for them smile.gif
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then come work for me...
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oooo.. work as?


Added on October 24, 2010, 6:41 pmstill waiting for reply tongue.gif why today so inactive people?

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cichla temensis available now
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size and price? I have to sell many of my commons now then get a NTT first to grow it a little... Although it'll take quite some time lol.. so ggMing, wat job?
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GGMING !!! yo man ................. This guys is an awesome guy. Very friendly somemore .


Wei ur 8" payara still got ?


Added on October 24, 2010, 9:41 pmLepidosiren paradoxa - jason u can find this ?


Added on October 24, 2010, 9:51 pmmy wish lish : http://www.primitivefishes.com/bichirs.htm ( all the polypterus : ) )

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QUOTE(ggMing @ Oct 23 2010, 09:58 PM)
noted.... u seem to be able to source as well,

goliath 9-10" , got to check availability but expect above 2k (i know its expensive but small ones drop easily.. well, at least in my previous experience
armatus 6-8" RM350
Tataunia 8-9" RM280 (since i offer akidos this price, offer you this price as well)
airmara will let u know got stock or not..
tigrinum 5"-8" ard Rm400-Rm600 depending on pattern and size.. i think now no stock
ahhh.... altums... any specific size?
L46.. size? male and female? btw, 1pcs confirmed male and 1 pcs confirmed female going for ard RM1300

anything else, you can contact me thru number on sig..
also available, gulper cat, flavicans cat, rainbow wolf..

cichlas, rays, L-numbers, aro, and etc can be sourced if given time...

apistos, central americans, malawi, tanganyika cichlids too.....

crayfish, shrimps, crabs and hermits also got.....

exotic pets also can get.... you name it, i try to my very best to get it...

Added on October 23, 2010, 10:11 pm

i know you not ready to buy.... thats why never get back to you... please understand price change with time... to prevent misunderstanding, best to call and enquire when you are ready to purchase to i can quote accordingly...

icon_rolleyes.gif  also salminus maxillosus very hard to get now...

what i mean by hard to get is, hard to get nice specimens... like nice fins,not crooked ones...

i'm a very fussy person, if its not up to the quality, i simply wont get it.. if u get anything from me, i assure quality.. some time, my price will be higher, but u pay extra for quality... i get something with crooked fins and such, no one buys, i rugi big time... also, i sell quality stuff, ppl also return la..

if you are not a person who demands quality leh, then i'm not the person you are seeking for... laugh.gif

anyway Ben, you are getting hooked big time... i can tell....ahhahahahaha
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some of ur price were indeed much much higher and some lower as well..
doesnt matter.. like you have said.. depending on time and season which i greatly agree with on these rare species.

instead of comparing prices. why now u and i look for own source and serve the demand right here.. haha..
cheers!


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QUOTE(BenSow @ Oct 24 2010, 07:28 PM)
size and price? I have to sell many of my commons now then get a NTT first to grow it a little... Although it'll take quite some time lol.. so ggMing, wat job?
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clean fish tank.. scrub algae, feed fish, change water and collect ur free fish of the month..
LOL.
an african aro perhaps.. rclxms.gif

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hahah.... free fish depending on how hard you work...
so, if you get feeders at the end of the day, you know whats wrong..
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QUOTE(BenSow @ Oct 22 2010, 09:20 PM)
jardini, siamese tiger, yellow tail barracuda..

I jus went to pudu today... khairul.. is the dorado RM200 and labeled as scientific name one? when u go down the stairs the tank directly in front of u?
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yup ben...200....if you want to have it better go 6 feet tank...very aggressive fish..last time when i buy the barracuda the fish bang the glass sampai berdarah.. m sad.gif


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Added on October 24, 2010, 9:51 pmmy wish lish : http://www.primitivefishes.com/bichirs.htm ( all the polypterus : ) )
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i have some poly to sell

Polypterus Lapredei saiz 1'++ RM 130
Polypterus Endlicheri 10" RM80
Polypterus Endlicheri (SB) 5-6" RM60

all the price are below market price.

if want the picture just give me your email add..i'll send it to you! thumbup.gif

i know these all common type of poly in malaysia...

if you interested dont hesitate to email or PM me


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let me fullfill your wish... come get the payara at my shop for rmRM280 TOMORROW! only 1 day offer...
where is your shop man? sorry i cannot reply ur msg during weekend cos i dont have internet line, only using internet during office hour


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Added on October 24, 2010, 9:41 pmLepidosiren paradoxa - jason u can find this ?
i also have this man...check my post african lungfish

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QUOTE(ggMing @ Oct 25 2010, 08:20 AM)
hahah.... free fish depending on how hard you work...
so, if you get feeders at the end of the day, you know whats wrong..
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So work for u as wat? vry interested to know here haha... hope its fish-related, or camera related XD


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GGMING !!! yo man ................. This guys is an awesome guy. Very friendly somemore .
Wei ur 8" payara still got ?


Added on October 24, 2010, 9:41 pmLepidosiren paradoxa - jason u can find this ?


Added on October 24, 2010, 9:51 pmmy wish lish : http://www.primitivefishes.com/bichirs.htm ( all the polypterus : ) )
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Yeah I heard he channels fish alot so everytime I got problem I find him first haha

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he supply exotic fish, all good specimens. ...

ben i think u will love to work with him .







Ming wait 1.11.2010 ..... i go ur shop for the birchirs.

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QUOTE(akidos @ Oct 26 2010, 02:29 AM)
he supply exotic fish, all good specimens.  ...

ben i think u will love to work with him .
Ming wait 1.11.2010 ..... i go ur shop for the birchirs.
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where is his shop ar bro?
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QUOTE(ggMing @ Oct 23 2010, 09:58 PM)

goliath 9-10" , got to check availability but expect above 2k (i know its expensive but small ones drop easily.. well, at least in my previous experience
armatus 6-8" RM350
Tataunia 8-9" RM280 (since i offer akidos this price, offer you this price as well)
airmara will let u know got stock or not..
tigrinum 5"-8" ard Rm400-Rm600 depending on pattern and size.. i think now no stock
ahhh.... altums... any specific size?
L46.. size? male and female? btw, 1pcs confirmed male and 1 pcs confirmed female going for ard RM1300
Bro you seems to have a wide stocklist, do you have L24? L25 ? Just got deeper into my pleco collection, and heard they are very nice.
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QUOTE(akidos @ Oct 26 2010, 02:29 AM)
he supply exotic fish, all good specimens.  ...

ben i think u will love to work with him .
Ming wait 1.11.2010 ..... i go ur shop for the birchirs.
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Yea where is his shop drool.gif drool.gif
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QUOTE(seandavidz @ Oct 26 2010, 10:19 AM)
Bro you seems to have a wide stocklist, do you have L24? L25 ? Just got deeper into my pleco collection, and heard they are very nice.
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yes i do, i mean i dont have them at the moment, but what you want can be sourced...

looking for specific size? and for 025, how many pointers?


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where is his shop ar bro?
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No 18, Medan Hujan Rahmat, OUG, 58200 KL.. rclxms.gif

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work as my sidekick.. hahahaha... btw, anyone interested with 5" b.flavicans?
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haizzz... flavicans not bad oso... but juruense more to my taste... amazon exotics import still havent have stock I think...

sidekick ooo.... nice.. the pay? tongue.gif
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dont talk bout pay 1st, talk about the figures you're gonna fill in the 555 book.... hahaahha... resistance is futile..
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hahaha... so... damn interested.. side kick as in.. help keep fish? ooo
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yes i do, i mean i dont have them at the moment, but what you want can be sourced...

looking for specific size? and for 025, how many pointers?
7pointer if possible. Priority to 24 1st can?
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Guys how long can a poly sen and ornate starve for ? cause im medicating my arowana so im nt feeding him and am wondering how long can polys tahan without eating since their in the same tank as him :/ ?
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coldwater fish can tahan quite long one... primitive species longer... so I think few weeks din feed oso can... im nt sure la... but fish quite tahan one
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QUOTE(Devillsin @ Oct 26 2010, 11:08 PM)
Guys how long can a poly sen and ornate starve for ? cause im medicating my arowana so im nt feeding him and am wondering how long can polys tahan without eating since their in the same tank as him :/ ?
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are the poly same size? if the sens are smaller than the ornate you should be careful..im afraid the ornate will eat the sen....otherwise its ok..1week++
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Sen is smaller but its around 6-7 inches the ornate is 12 ++ but the haven't fought or anything till now and the sen cnt fit in the ornates mouth.btw how big do ornates get ? and how long does it take to grow ? GGMING I see you are in the exotic predatory fish buiseness haha now i know who to go to if need any fish haha
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QUOTE(Devillsin @ Oct 27 2010, 04:34 PM)
Sen is smaller but its around 6-7 inches the ornate is 12 ++ but the haven't fought or anything till now and the sen cnt fit in the ornates mouth.btw how big do ornates get ? and how long does it take to grow ? GGMING I see you are in the exotic predatory fish buiseness haha now i know who to go to if need any fish haha
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max ornate will get about 19"-20"

ornate are slower growth rate...not like endlicheri
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QUOTE(Devillsin @ Oct 27 2010, 04:34 PM)
Sen is smaller but its around 6-7 inches the ornate is 12 ++ but the haven't fought or anything till now and the sen cnt fit in the ornates mouth.btw how big do ornates get ? and how long does it take to grow ? GGMING I see you are in the exotic predatory fish buiseness haha now i know who to go to if need any fish haha
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hahaha... anything aquatic related also can try me one... hehhee...
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JURUENSE then hahahahahah~~

haizzz... waiting for a new mega tank... in class keep thinking... the more i think more it hurts to not have one yet haha....

Anyone know Alive Aquarium's h/p number? Who wants to go pudu? nowadays I go there often they good nicee selection of feeders...
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QUOTE(BenSow @ Oct 27 2010, 09:51 PM)
JURUENSE then hahahahahah~~

haizzz... waiting for a new mega tank... in class keep thinking... the more i think more it hurts to not have one yet haha....

Anyone know Alive Aquarium's h/p number? Who wants to go pudu? nowadays I go there often they good nicee selection of feeders...
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brother.. PMR is near right? focus on studies first la.. lol
pudu when? i just went there today.. hahaha.. saw the Tiger muskellunge which many would confused that its a normal Northern pike (Esox lucius).

other than that.. prices there were as low as what fish farm offers.

Anyway here's my fish of the day.. have u guys seen this fish before? i bet not. tongue.gif
This is the most highly prized super super duper rare snakehead ever from India!
The Violet snakehead (Channa barca)
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here's a video of this specimen..

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another young specimen

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This will reach our shore most likely on my next shipment..


Khairul,

Let me know how many tetra u want..

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lol!!! PMR oended on 12th Oct haha
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lol!!! PMR oended on 12th Oct haha
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then go pudu.. go pudu more.. LOL!
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joshua, how much for barca? pls quote ...
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anyne interested with gulper cat fish ... rm 550
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joshua, how much for barca? pls quote ...
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QUOTE(joshualim86 @ Oct 27 2010, 10:36 PM)
brother.. PMR is near right? focus on studies first la.. lol
pudu when? i just went there today.. hahaha.. saw the Tiger muskellunge which many would confused that its a normal Northern pike (Esox lucius).

other than that.. prices there were as low as what fish farm offers.

Anyway here's my fish of the day.. have u guys seen this fish before? i bet not.  tongue.gif
This is the most highly prized super super duper rare snakehead ever from India!
The Violet snakehead (Channa barca)
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very rare fish...ok bro...i want the exodon...when you want to bring them in?


Added on October 28, 2010, 3:45 pmhi guys why dont you'll post picture of your exotic fish!!!
make this thread more exciting!!

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QUOTE(khairulanuar @ Oct 28 2010, 03:30 PM)
very rare fish...ok bro...i want the exodon...when you want to bring them in?


Added on October 28, 2010, 3:45 pmhi guys why dont you'll post picture of your exotic fish!!!
make this thread more exciting!!
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if i post my exotic, confirm i will kena... hahhahaa


Added on October 28, 2010, 8:55 pmcoz my exotic is nothing primitive... LOL

heres the 1st... rclxms.gif

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haizzz... now im dilemma-ing... I want a Nikon D3000+ Tamron 18-200mm lens, and my monster tank and my monster stock... but camera is 2k, tank 1.3k, fish rm800... haizzz.. I have to choose...
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oiks, why talk bout camera.... you have big dreams, one fine day, you'll be successful.... i dowan camera, but i want fish... camera everyone also got... but fish, I got, you got or not??? hahahhaha
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dunno leh... cameras are so tempting...
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QUOTE(ggMing @ Oct 22 2010, 10:08 PM)
let me fullfill your wish... come get the payara at my shop for rmRM280 TOMORROW! only 1 day offer...


ggMing is the payara still have bro? at the same price? ... 1Question is the payara u display at tank in front ur shop ah?  smile.gif

just now i have visit ur shop...nice shop...but still in setup right  rclxms.gif



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camera / fish .... definitely a camera dude . Fish dies = money gone .


just my opinion
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QUOTE(akidos @ Oct 29 2010, 05:44 PM)
camera / fish .... definitely a camera dude . Fish dies = money gone .
just my opinion
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if you compare like that.... compare between fish gone and camera gone...

thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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I think i'll go for camera... Rare fish can wait... I don't have so much time to care fishes... Especially african aro...
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its up to u boy...but don't gv up keeping monsters!


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if i post my exotic, confirm i will kena... hahhahaa
Now i know y...hahaha :thumbs

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Yup... maybe cheaper monster like bichirs la... and datnoids thumbup.gif so who's up for pudu trip?


Added on October 31, 2010, 12:18 amWho has bred Polypterus before?

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QUOTE(BenSow @ Oct 30 2010, 11:05 PM)
Yup... maybe cheaper monster like bichirs la... and datnoids thumbup.gif so who's up for pudu trip?


Added on October 31, 2010, 12:18 amWho has bred Polypterus before?
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Bro its not easy to breed poly in tank...in other word impossible...
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Why? u have male and female?


Added on October 31, 2010, 1:36 pmDam I still can't choose between DSLR or 6'x4'x3' trank


Added on October 31, 2010, 4:58 pma friend and I are planning for a photography trip to FRIM(Forest Research Institure of Malaysia) at Kepong... Has anyone been there and is there any list stating what animals do they have there? That can be legally photographed....

Thanks

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QUOTE(BenSow @ Oct 31 2010, 01:33 PM)
Why? u have male and female?
yup i have male and female delz

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Added on October 31, 2010, 1:36 pmDam I still can't choose between DSLR or 6'x4'x3' trank
choose ur hobby bro!

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Thanks
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go and catch big fish there...there have 2@3 arapaima...if u lucky u can see it...so gud luck


Added on November 1, 2010, 11:10 amSHARE PICTURE PLEASE!!!! smile.gif


Added on November 1, 2010, 3:48 pmSHARE PICTURE PLEASE!!!! smile.gif

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ooo.. pic of male and female anal fin plss.. I wanna see...

but the arapaima is from top see or frm side see?
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QUOTE(BenSow @ Nov 1 2010, 10:09 PM)
ooo.. pic of male and female anal fin plss.. I wanna see...
Male
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Female
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but the arapaima is from top see or frm side see?
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only from top je bro...coz its in the lake...

if you want to see from side go aquaria la bro! biggrin.gif

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i have been there ... can see it clearly ...


about 6 -7 feet each . about 10 - 20 .. u can even feed the arapaima with breads . I threw the burger last time ..


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just went to ampang lfs yesterday (kuan sang) near to mrr2 highway...saw 1 arapaima, not sure albino or what..but looks like white+golden..nor very big..about 3 and half foot
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QUOTE(akidos @ Nov 2 2010, 03:26 PM)
i have been there ... can see it clearly ...
about  6 -7 feet each . about 10 - 20 .. u can even feed the arapaima with breads . I threw the burger last time ..
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Holy sh*t lol 10-20?? cool!! But bread? they eat bread? weird...

Yea see frm side better is aquaria...
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QUOTE(akidos @ Nov 2 2010, 03:26 PM)
i have been there ... can see it clearly ...
about  6 -7 feet each . about 10 - 20 .. u can even feed the arapaima with breads . I threw the burger last time ..
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@Ben- Lol,planning to pudu myself once i upgrade tank. Btw, if i were you, i choose tank. If your parents allow. My house dont have space even though i wanna sponsor for 6ft tank and the entire set up.

Bread understandable. [/B]Burger[cool.gif???Lol! I bet araipama gigas do visits MD sometime eh.

Saw a freaking huge LFS at MUAR selling araipama for 200-300. Juvenile sized , more or less 10''.

Btw, i got a 5-6'' clown fish. Quite stressed, not providing any hides for him. He tends to stay at a corner. What you guys suggest to put in as a hide?? and ar, i bought RM1 longkang fish for him to eat lol. Inside got like 100 of guppy fish == so the whole 2ft tank(my CKF only fish that lives in there) is filled with feeder fish. Now i scared he kena penyakit already. His gills looks like keep moving. Not really sure normal or not. I will post a picture later.
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hurmmm ... for my eels, i use the rock / and rm 10 plants x 3 of them as hiding place .


They do well as my gar also adapts and hide inside to ambush the fishes. u put 100 guppies and the fish in 2 feet tank , not enough oxygen to breath oso wei .


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@Ben- Lol,planning to pudu myself once i upgrade tank. Btw, if i were you, i choose tank. If your parents allow. My house dont have space even though i wanna sponsor for 6ft tank and the entire set up.

Bread understandable. [/B]Burger[cool.gif???Lol! I bet araipama gigas do visits MD sometime eh.

Saw a freaking huge LFS at MUAR selling araipama for 200-300. Juvenile sized , more or less 10''.

Btw, i got a 5-6'' clown fish. Quite stressed, not providing any hides for him. He tends to stay at a corner. What you guys suggest to put in as a hide??  and ar, i bought RM1 longkang fish for him to eat lol. Inside got like 100 of guppy fish ==  so the whole 2ft tank(my CKF only fish that lives in there) is filled with feeder fish. Now i scared he kena penyakit already. His gills looks like keep moving. Not really sure normal or not. I will post a picture later.
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one buck burger ... thats the only thing the cafeteria was selling then . Arapaima they vacuum everything, and damn last long . The pond damn dirty . I wonder if the fishes are still there ... road trip anyone this sunday ?


Added on November 3, 2010, 12:08 amwhy no aba aba fans here ?


personally i think aba aba is more territorial and aggressive compared to any other fish i have seen in life .

Its a type of knife fish that produces mild electricity for defensive purposes ..

anyone keeping it ? i suspect mine is not eating well .


Added on November 3, 2010, 12:08 amwhy no aba aba fans here ?


personally i think aba aba is more territorial and aggressive compared to any other fish i have seen in life .

Its a type of knife fish that produces mild electricity for defensive purposes ..

anyone keeping it ? i suspect mine is not eating well .

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QUOTE(helangkawi @ Nov 2 2010, 04:00 PM)
just went to ampang lfs yesterday (kuan sang) near to mrr2 highway...saw 1 arapaima, not sure albino or what..but looks like white+golden..nor very big..about 3 and half foot
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that shop mahal...overprice...but the monster they keep in the front tank are cool thumbup.gif


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Added on November 3, 2010, 12:08 amwhy no aba aba fans here ?
personally i think aba aba is more territorial and aggressive compared to any other fish i have seen in life .

Its a type of knife fish that produces mild electricity for defensive purposes ..

anyone keeping it ? i suspect mine is not eating well .
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hehehe...maybe that fish hard to find it bro...i have seen 1 aba-aba about 1 feet long selling at selayang..RM199...but i think someone have buy it...

bro when do you wanna take the Poly rclxms.gif

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Quite true, i guess there is oxygen shortage, my CKF is now gasping for air. zz
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I have never seen aba aba in real life before....


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Quite true, i guess there is oxygen shortage, my CKF is now gasping for air. zz
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You need a separate tank for longkang fish... You have to quarantine them for 3 days in separate tank first then only feed the ones still healthy...

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QUOTE(BenSow @ Nov 3 2010, 10:59 PM)
I have never seen aba aba in real life before....


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You need a separate tank for longkang fish... You have to quarantine them for 3 days in separate tank first then only feed the ones still healthy...
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There are plenty of aba-aba here at Kepong Kin Fatt Aqua.. Just stock up! biggrin.gif

as for wild caught guppies.. it really depends on the owner of the LFS.

Good ones will quarantine, change the water gradually and remove those dead ones..

when u wanna buy these feeders.. look at the fishes overall b4 buying. check if the fish is in dark colour, clamp fins and other dead ones.

if u see non of the above. its show that the LFS cares.. meaning, good LFS! hence its safe to feed ur fish!


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i've got aba aba for sale.... mexican walking fish too... woot!
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i've got aba aba for sale.... mexican walking fish too... woot!
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What is the saiz?the price for both?
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Giving up rare fish... Because just student.. I think I just keep bichirs and datnoids =)
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QUOTE(BenSow @ Nov 7 2010, 05:28 PM)
Giving up rare fish... Because just student.. I think I just keep bichirs and datnoids =)
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Ben...want indo tiger...rm70 medium size
Got 5pcs...if u buy 5 give u 300...

1more Polypterus LAPRADEI...
rm130
size 1 feet++

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nahh~~ i rear fish is rear from young one =)

Indo Tiger... pics? medium is how big?
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QUOTE(BenSow @ Nov 7 2010, 10:09 PM)
nahh~~ i rear fish is rear from young one =)

Indo Tiger... pics? medium is how big?
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Picture for indo tiger i Will gv u later.coz its my friend fish
1 of them you cn see at my lates picture post...
size around 5 inches.

LAPRADEI now day hard to find the small bro..
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guys im buying a baby rtc maybe this week or next week for my 6 x 2.5 x 2.5 foot tank that i would be getting in december or january smile.gif current tank inhabitants are a 7 " sen , 13" ornate poly and 18/19 " silver aro.Will the rtc grow and pose a threst to any of these fish ? and if soo which ones .any advice is greatly appreciated smile.gif
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i think if the RTC grow big...watch out the Sens.afraid the sens will be RTC food. smile.gif


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nahh~~ i rear fish is rear from young one =)

Indo Tiger... pics? medium is how big?
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Ben check this out: Clear stock

the indo tiger in mine...not the one i said to you yesterday...

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RTC need at least 12' long pond
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RTC can still be put in aquarium for the 1st few months(maybe 1st year depending how fast you grow it). Soon after if its still in the 6ft aquarium. It's growth will most probably stunted.

Anyway can still be reared though if you dont mind the fish growth stunted. ==
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Ben, heard u r looking for cichla... i have cichla temensis..

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ggming is fishgod. u want any ikan, he definitely can get for u
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Fish Got, not fish God!
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QUOTE(ggMing @ Nov 10 2010, 04:47 PM)
Fish Got, not fish God!
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ggMing selling of my polypterus...want it? endlicheri & delhezi....selling very2 cheap for you...


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But will it be able to be happy and healthy in a 6 foot by 2.5 by 2.5 tank ?
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dude.. how you get such a big tank?? i wan also... drool.gif

@ggming>> price..
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But will it be able to be happy and healthy in a 6 foot by 2.5 by 2.5 tank ?
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oooh.... it would be very very very happy... coz i think you will sell it away eventually.... a lot wanted to grow them till big, but not a lot has the patience to...
i know a lot who wanted big fishes, and they start with gars and RTC... along the way, the will find more interesting fish and thats when people sell their fishes...


i think khairulanuar is doing this... this is a common practice though... every fish keeper goes thru this... rclxms.gif


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dude.. how you get such a big tank?? i wan also... drool.gif

@ggming>> price..
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dude.. how you get such a big tank?? i wan also... drool.gif

@ggming>> price..
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temensis is 150? wow

ok.. want to ask something.. I saw few cichla 8" for sale at connaught LFS got 3 bars one RM18... wat kind would they possibly be?
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haha ben first i wanted get 6 foot by 2 feet by 2 feet but for my silver arowana 2 feet not worth it he will outgrow the width so 2.5 feet better choice.btw ggming how much you think a 6 ft x 2.5 ft x 2.5 ft tank with cabinet and built in sump filter cost ? since you the fish boss I thought maybe you will know roughly wht lfs will be charging cause i heard that most of em are around the same price
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QUOTE(BenSow @ Nov 11 2010, 12:00 AM)
temensis is 150? wow

ok.. want to ask something.. I saw few cichla 8" for sale at connaught LFS got 3 bars one RM18... wat kind would they possibly be?
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ggming how much would you think a 6 ft x 2.5 ft x 2.5 ft tank with cabinet and built in sump filter cost ?im asking cause you seem like fish good haha
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Get a Fiberglass tank la.. Bigger space for less cost..
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nah man parents also want glass aquarium style haha.ggming any estimation on how much it would cost in general ?

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Ben, heard u r looking for cichla... i have cichla temensis..
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ggming is fishgod. u want any ikan, he definitely can get for u
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u nid time... I asked him few times adi he said he'll hlp me look out but until now no news lol.. Im not desperate anyways... haha

and he is fish GOT not fish GOD biggrin.gif

my parents dun care abt my fish one.. cry.gif
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Go to his shop la Bro..sure id will entertain you.ok
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BRO, PM and SMS u, also never reply.
UR HP no as in ur Signature rite????
Are you SURE?
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i think i can get most of the fishes la...

Ben, not to say i dowan get fishes for you... your kinda fishes and your kinda budget cannot be done...

and you always talk only, no action... ask for this this and this.... people find for you already, you dowan...

like you wanted a 6' tank within RM1200 budget.... told you i found rm1k.. but you also dont want...

so please la, make sure you got the money and you want what you asked foR... not just asking around...

bro seandavid, i got sms you saying the L24 sold out already la... if you are pleco lover, you should know how hard is it to get this L24 la.... im also trying to source for you up and down, you think you are buying those normal type pleco like zebra pleco, gold nugget, panaque and stuff like that meh... what you wanted is L24 bro...


i need to make calls and need to wait for emails... its just that they take such a long time to reply me... and i also understand why la.. people buy quantity... i buy few pcs....
bro, recently got few hundred L24 available but do you know everything is gone is 1 night?? all sold out in 1 night???


if you really want them, come to my shop, we talk about it... pay me deposit, tell me how many pcs you want, so the next time its available, i can just secure it for you... simple... instead of relaying the information here and there....


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lol I didnt say u dowan give me....

And the 6' tank u offer me the cabinet wooden rite? Im putting my tank outdoors so tak boleh la...
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Ben.normally 6' tank come with cabinet bro!
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got those with stand it looks like the 4 foot tank with the metal stand just with a pair on extra kaki in the middle xD kinda chekai looking if you ask me but ok la i guess :/
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Any bro can pm me de price n size of Goliath & payara tq biggrin.gif
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Any bro can pm me de price n size of Goliath & payara tq  biggrin.gif
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I am afraid these two awesome fish is hardly available right now.. cry.gif
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I am afraid these two awesome fish is hardly available right now.. cry.gif
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geess  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
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but dont give up yet. biggrin.gif
lol. gimme few days to check.

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QUOTE(ggMing @ Nov 14 2010, 08:32 AM)
what you wanted is L24 bro...
i need to make calls and need to wait for emails... its just that they take such a long time to reply me... and i also understand why la.. people buy quantity... i buy few pcs....
bro, recently got few hundred L24 available but do you know everything is gone is 1 night?? all sold out in 1 night???
if you really want them, come to my shop, we talk about it... pay me deposit, tell me how many pcs you want, so the next time its available, i can just secure it for you... simple... instead of relaying the information here and there....
Noted with thanks.
I got what i wanted from another source.

Nice ?
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but dont give up yet. biggrin.gif
lol. gimme few days to check.
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lol... u giv me hope bro rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif
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haizzz so sorry to say I dropped my rare fish keeping hobby... but I still keep normal fish... I opted for my other hobby.. photography..
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haizzz so sorry to say I dropped my rare fish keeping hobby... but I still keep normal fish... I opted for my other hobby.. photography..
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as long as ur a fish lover. ur rare fish keeping wont just end here..
trust me.. i am an example for u..

started at:
7yrs old = betta splendens, goldfish, snakehead.
9-12 = discus, gourami keeping
13-15 = massive discus breeding, characin collection (tetra). flowerhorn, marine fishes (basic)
16 = stop fish keeping. start to like cars. dont like ppl call me "gold-fish man"
17-20 = continue fish keeping. yellow tail aro. marine fish (coral tank, damselfish and common clown breeding)
21-22 = back to basic fish keeping. marine fish (angelfish, surgeons and tangs). got a 2005 toyota vios, start modifying like crazy. everyday go sunway area, yamcha, lepak, genting. behave like a "sampah masyarakat"
23-till now = sold my car. not worth modifying. then arowana. RTG, HB, BBXB, BBGH now and going to the max.. planning 8footer at home, no fark.. rclxm9.gif




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QUOTE(joshualim86 @ Nov 16 2010, 04:42 PM)
as long as ur a fish lover. ur rare fish keeping wont just end here..
trust me.. i am an example for u..

started at:
7yrs old = betta splendens, goldfish, snakehead.
9-12 = discus, gourami keeping
13-15 = massive discus breeding, characin collection (tetra). flowerhorn, marine fishes (basic)
16 = stop fish keeping. start to like cars. dont like ppl call me "gold-fish man"
17-20 = continue fish keeping. yellow tail aro. marine fish (coral tank, damselfish and common clown breeding)
21-22 = back to basic fish keeping. marine fish (angelfish, surgeons and tangs). got a 2005 toyota vios, start modifying like crazy. everyday go sunway area, yamcha, lepak, genting. behave like a "sampah masyarakat"
23-till now = sold my car. not worth modifying. then arowana. RTG, HB, BBXB, BBGH now and going to the max.. planning 8footer at home, no fark.. rclxm9.gif
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haha my fren start call me gam yu lou adi but who cares i more knowledge than them


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QUOTE(BenSow @ Nov 16 2010, 04:11 PM)
haizzz so sorry to say I dropped my rare fish keeping hobby... but I still keep normal fish... I opted for my other hobby.. photography..
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Photography and fishkeeping goes along very well.
Keep a piece or 2 rare fish i.e like my L24 drool.gif drool.gif
Set your tank up nicely and naturally.
Photograph them once a while (i.e macro ) with some ext flash setup.
Don't be suprise u'll get very nice photos.

Like that you can enjoy ur fishkeeping and photography. icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif
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yeaahh~~ Now i cant even afford a DSLR yet haha... gonna convince
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QUOTE(joshualim86 @ Nov 16 2010, 04:42 PM)
as long as ur a fish lover. ur rare fish keeping wont just end here..
trust me.. i am an example for u..

started at:
7yrs old = betta splendens, goldfish, snakehead.
9-12 = discus, gourami keeping
13-15 = massive discus breeding, characin collection (tetra). flowerhorn, marine fishes (basic)
16 = stop fish keeping. start to like cars. dont like ppl call me "gold-fish man"
17-20 = continue fish keeping. yellow tail aro. marine fish (coral tank, damselfish and common clown breeding)
21-22 = back to basic fish keeping. marine fish (angelfish, surgeons and tangs). got a 2005 toyota vios, start modifying like crazy. everyday go sunway area, yamcha, lepak, genting. behave like a "sampah masyarakat"
23-till now = sold my car. not worth modifying. then arowana. RTG, HB, BBXB, BBGH now and going to the max.. planning 8footer at home, no fark.. rclxm9.gif
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My journey is opposite to yours. I started modifying cars when I was 18 and I still do until today but I've always been a Skyline/RB person having modified RB20, RB25, RB26 and RB28. I did stray however and had a V9 STI and 350z but luckily I came to my senses. Used to have a few cars at once but now I'm left with my favorite which is my R34 GTR V-Spec II. Although I agree that modifying is a waste especially once you cross the seven figure mark but why do you call yourself "sampah masyarakat"? It's a legitimate hobby with many responsible enthusiasts and I'm sure you were one yourself. smile.gif

Actually, been into fish keeping all this while but not serious type and currently have a 3ft marine tank and a Koi pond in my Damansara house, a half acre pond stocked with 4000 catfish at the Hulu Langat house, a concrete pond in the Janda Baik house stocked with 2000 catfish and in the Perlis house I have three different ponds one purely for Puyu, one empty as its new and another is fairly large I'd estimate around half acre mark stocked with Jelawat, Catfish, Tilapia, Jelawat and Haruan. None of them are commerical purposes though.

Now, with help from ggMing I've decided to venture into freshwater monsters and after meeting him today at his shop, I feel confident he'll be able to help me achieve what I have planned in mind. Apparently, it's somewhat of a unique setup and I'm sure ggMing will be seeing more of me in the near future.

Anyways, kudos to ggMing, highly recommend him as he's extremely helpful and accommodating compared to a few other LFS I've been to.
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Now, with help from ggMing I've decided to venture into freshwater monsters and after meeting him today at his shop, I feel confident he'll be able to help me achieve what I have planned in mind. Apparently, it's somewhat of a unique setup and I'm sure ggMing will be seeing more of me in the near future.

Anyways, kudos to ggMing, highly recommend him as he's extremely helpful and accommodating compared to a few other LFS I've been to.
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thank you bro for the kind words... just sharing my information with you only, nothing helpful... biggrin.gif

thank you for dropping by, and of course, hope to see you soon in the future...

guys, this is a monster fish keeper with monster ponds... seriously............................ and a river.... icon_rolleyes.gif hehehe
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[quote=ggMing,Nov 16 2010, 10:46 PM]
Now, with help from ggMing I've decided to venture into freshwater monsters and after meeting him today at his shop, I feel confident he'll be able to help me achieve what I have planned in mind. Apparently, it's somewhat of a unique setup and I'm sure ggMing will be seeing more of me in the near future.

Anyways, kudos to ggMing, highly recommend him as he's extremely helpful and accommodating compared to a few other LFS I've been to.
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thank you bro for the kind words... just sharing my information with you only, nothing helpful... biggrin.gif

thank you for dropping by, and of course, hope to see you soon in the future...

guys, this is a monster fish keeper with monster ponds... seriously............................ and a river.... icon_rolleyes.gif hehehe
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Shh don't spill the secret just yet or no more wow factor LOL

Well to be honest, what tipped the balance was the fact that you took me very seriously which for some reason most LFS don't because firstly fishes are a relatively new hobby for me and I don't know always know what to ask. Secondly, they probably think what I have planned are purely daydreams and a waste of their time as I'm probably a time waster in their opinion, thirdly they are more concerned with selling rather than educating and finally you're the first person who has admitted that there are certain questions which you do not know the answer which is rare as other LFS would rather close shop than admit ignorance.

Actually, I was very close to buying the tank just now but I held back as impulse purchases never end well. Secondly, I've yet to finalize the types of fishes I'm going to have in the tank - the Arapaimas and RTC are confirmed but I'd want a couple others perhaps a Gulper Catfish if suitable and really a Gar if its suitable.

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gulper not suitable to comm with arapaima.. hehehe... now u've got boken dreams... heheheh
don't wory bout the tank, its only a phone call away...

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[quote=PIMPIN,Nov 16 2010, 11:16 PM]
thank you bro for the kind words... just sharing my information with you only, nothing helpful... biggrin.gif

thank you for dropping by, and of course, hope to see you soon in the future...

guys, this is a monster fish keeper with monster ponds... seriously............................ and a river.... icon_rolleyes.gif hehehe
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Shh don't spill the secret just yet or no more wow factor LOL

Well to be honest, what tipped the balance was the fact that you took me very seriously which for some reason most LFS don't because firstly fishes are a relatively new hobby for me and I don't know always know what to ask. Secondly, they probably think what I have planned are purely daydreams and a waste of their time as I'm probably a time waster in their opinion, thirdly they are more concerned with selling rather than educating and finally you're the first person who has admitted that there are certain questions which you do not know the answer which is rare as other LFS would rather close shop than admit ignorance.

Actually, I was very close to buying the tank just now but I held back as impulse purchases never end well. Secondly, I've yet to finalize the types of fishes I'm going to have in the tank - the Arapaimas and RTC are confirmed but I'd want a couple others perhaps a Gulper Catfish if suitable and really a Gar if its suitable.
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I thought Arapaima is banned from keeping as pet? Felt weird when I saw one for sale...

I have an 8-9" RTC.. You want? clearing my tank.. Eats very well and looves market prawn..
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I thought Arapaima is banned from keeping as pet? Felt weird when I saw one for sale...

I have an 8-9" RTC.. You want? clearing my tank.. Eats very well and looves market prawn..
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To be honest, I didn't know that Arapaimas are banned as pets although I do know their numbers are dwindling in the wild. Because I've seen them for sale and some places have hundreds available so the question of them being illegal never crossed my mind.

Why are you getting rid of your RTC? I notice a lot of people tend to sell their fishes especially Arapaimas after only a couple of years, sometimes after only a few months.

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BenSow,

Actually count your blessings bro. I just realized you are still in high school - when I was your age I didn't even have a handphone what more an aquarium to keep all sorts of exotic fishes. If I were you, I'd consider myself so lucky because compared to other 15 year olds, you're already ahead of the curve. I admire your enthusiasm in wanting to earn your own money to support your hobby and trust me I understand what it feels like to have parents who don't understand your passion; been there done that. Perhaps you should take up ggMing's offer to work part-time but don't let it interfere with your studies. The fishes aren't going anywhere but you as a person - you're going places. thumbup.gif

ggMing,

Looks like I have quite a bit of planning to do and I think the best way going forward is for me to determine a budget and then you can suggest various combinations of fishes that fall within the price range. Obviously I'd need some help with the construction of the pond - how deep it should be, tiled or cement covered sand for the bottom, whether it should have various depths or same depth throughout, how to properly use stones/rocks/driftwood etc to make it as authentic as possible and much more.

Although you said filters weren't necessary, I feel its something I should at least look into as I'd want the water to be as clear as possible. This definitely needs proper planning to coincide not only with the dry season as currently ground too soft and wet to construct anything properly as well as being ready to receive fishes that are ready to leave the grow out tank.

Right now I've got even bigger fish related problems - been trying for the past couple of months to source for Pacific Bottle Nose Dolphins and currently the Solomon Islands seems to be the nearest place but their prices are steep; over RM1m per dolphin and I need five. I don't suppose you could help me with that could you? LOL rclxub.gif
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PIMPIN >> wow!!! sure you have a lot of info to share with us bro...welcome to this thread! just share everything here...looking for rare fish breeder in malaysia... smile.gif maybe we can be like JAPAN...1 day Maybe...


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lol... u giv me hope bro  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif
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dont worry bro...joshua hill help you find it...he also nice person wink.gif

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QUOTE(PIMPIN @ Nov 18 2010, 01:40 AM)
BenSow,

Actually count your blessings bro. I just realized you are still in high school - when I was your age I didn't even have a handphone what more an aquarium to keep all sorts of exotic fishes. If I were you, I'd consider myself so lucky because compared to other 15 year olds, you're already ahead of the curve. I admire your enthusiasm in wanting to earn your own money to support your hobby and trust me I understand what it feels like to have parents who don't understand your passion; been there done that. Perhaps you should take up ggMing's offer to work part-time but don't let it interfere with your studies. The fishes aren't going anywhere but you as a person - you're going places.  thumbup.gif

ggMing,

Looks like I have quite a bit of planning to do and I think the best way going forward is for me to determine a budget and then you can suggest various combinations of fishes that fall within the price range. Obviously I'd need some help with the construction of the pond - how deep it should be, tiled or cement covered sand for the bottom, whether it should have various depths or same depth throughout, how to properly use stones/rocks/driftwood etc to make it as authentic as possible and much more.

Although you said filters weren't necessary, I feel its something I should at least look into as I'd want the water to be as clear as possible. This definitely needs proper planning to coincide not only with the dry season as currently ground too soft and wet to construct anything properly as well as being ready to receive fishes that are ready to leave the grow out tank.

Right now I've got even bigger fish related problems - been trying for the past couple of months to source for Pacific Bottle Nose Dolphins and currently the Solomon Islands seems to be the nearest place but their prices are steep; over RM1m per dolphin and I need five. I don't suppose you could help me with that could you? LOL  rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(khairulanuar @ Nov 18 2010, 11:29 AM)
PIMPIN >> wow!!! sure you have a lot of info to share with us bro...welcome to this thread! just share everything here...looking for rare fish breeder in malaysia... smile.gif maybe we can be like JAPAN...1 day Maybe...


I think you have gotten the wrong impression of me. I am very new to this hobby and I've been absorbing as much information as possible. It just so happens that we have several houses and for some reason all of them have ponds with freshwater fishes. However these are fishes which are meant to be eaten and aren't pets.

On that note, if anyone is interested in catfish then I have probably a couple hundred fishes which I want to give away. Most are just the right size to be eaten while some have grown a bit too large and won't taste as nice when fried, etc. But at the end of the day, they are absolutely FOC as its surplus after taking into account my family's personal consumption and even after giving away to immediate neighbours.

The catch is that you have to pick-up in Janda Baik and also I would appreciate it if you were to donate a token sum to my family's orphanage which we have run for the past 20 years. The amount doesn't matter - take 100 fishes and donate RM10 is fine because donation amounts must be 'ikhlas'. If interested please SMS me on 019-2578888 or 019-2588888. Alternatively, you can email me razlan.radzi@gmail.com

Back to the topic at hand, in terms of keeping fishes as 'pets' then all I have is a pond full of Koi and a marine tank both of which are at my Damansara House. I've always wanted monster freshwater fishes but didn't want to rush into it until I'm confident I can provide the best possible environment for them.

QUOTE(BenSow @ Nov 18 2010, 01:15 PM)
wow.. bottle noses... ahh another reason I wanna sell my fish... Now my tank overstocked too high of bio load the tank is alway green..
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BenSow - bottle nose dolphins are cetaceans and since their original habitat is the open ocean, you can't keep them in your aquarium. Currently we're planning on constructing a 600,000 litre aquarium which does not include the open air dolphin enclosure. This is a very small setup as the consultants we've spoken to have constructed private aquariums up to 1.6mil litres in size but they are usually in the palaces of the Arab royal families. To give you a sense of the size, Aquaria KLCC is about 1.2mil litres and that is a public aquarium. These are all marine based setups however.

But the dolphins I've been looking to source aren't for me neither is the 600,000 litre tank but is actually a tourist attraction project.
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BenSow - bottle nose dolphins are cetaceans and since their original habitat is the open ocean, you can't keep them in your aquarium. Currently we're planning on constructing a 600,000 litre aquarium which does not include the open air dolphin enclosure. This is a very small setup as the consultants we've spoken to have constructed private aquariums up to 1.6mil litres in size but they are usually in the palaces of the Arab royal families. To give you a sense of the size, Aquaria KLCC is about 1.2mil litres and that is a public aquarium. These are all marine based setups however.

But the dolphins I've been looking to source aren't for me neither is the 600,000 litre tank but is actually a tourist attraction project.
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ok.. but who is "we"?
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ok.. but who is "we"?
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Basically, there is a project that was initiated by a State Government and is meant to be a marine mammal park however it was abandoned after 40% of the work was completed so it had to be rescued by the private sector - basically another company willing to not only buy over the land and completed work (of which all the systems were setup wrongly and would have failed even if completed by the original company) but also secure the additional funding and expertise required to complete the project. But then once completed, the company has to make a return on its investment in addition to managing a wide range of risks from the economy going south to losing all their fishes on display. This requires a team of experts ranging from marine biologists, dolphin trainers, F&B staff, maintenance staff etc some of whom would have to be expats.

Personally, I don't agree with dolphins being kept in captivity as half of all dolphins captured from the wild in the first place die within weeks of being in captivity. This depends largely on how they were caught and subsequent transport to the final aquarium. Those who do survive live for around 7-10 years max which is 4x less than in the wild. In fact, dolphins in captivity have been known to suffer from depression leading to developing ulcers and a whole bunch of other illnesses. Furthermore dolphins in the wild travel up to 40-50 miles a day and when placed in someplace like Sea World where the industry standard for keeping dolphins is 10ft x 10ft x 30ft per dolphin, then it would have to swim round its enclosure 1700 times a day to match what they are able to do in the wild.

Dolphins also produce a lot of waste so filtration is extremely important. Also, dolphins communication can travel for miles under water and they use this form of sonar to hunt as well so imagine being in an aquarium and having these sonar waves bouncing back at you from every angle. The reason why bottle nose dolphins are used the most is due to the fact that they look happy with a smile which is not necessarily the case as dolphins have been know to commit suicide in captivity either by refusing food or even to the extent of banging their heads against the enclosure.

Therefore, dolphins when retrieved in the wild do not adapt well to captivity which is why Australia and UK have banned all cetaceans from captivity and its only countries in Asia, Middle East, US and especially Japan who allow dolphins in captivity. There are dolphins who are born and bred in captivity usually in open cages by the sea and is a big industry in places like the Solomon Islands. Only dolphins born and raised in captivity would actually perform tricks like jumping out of the water onto the side of the pool and perform tricks before retreating back into the pool. Getting a wild dolphin to do the same is next to impossible as it goes against their natural instinct and its unnatural for them as being out of water means the weight of their bodies presses down on their internal organs and if a dolphin performs three shows a day seven days a week over several years you can imagine why they don't live for very long.

In short, on a personal level I disagree with the concept and I've tried my best to get the whole concept changed completely as you don't need to have dolphins performing tricks three times a day to attract visitors. If I could have it my way, I'd go for a concept like the Atlanta Georgia Aquarium which is the world's largest and was donated by the founder of Home Depot at the cost of quarter of a billion dollars. It's size is 30 million liters or 30 times larger than Aquaria KLCC. It also has 125,000 fishes a large number of which are HAND FED daily and they have the best experts in the world not to mention massive manpower; even their volunteers number in the thousands. Currently, the Atlanta Georgia Aquarium brings in over USD 1 billion to the city of Atlanta without even having to put on a single show or even have a single dolphin in captivity. So it can be done, it has been done and its doable without being cruel to dolphins.

So why is it happening? Well, at the end of the day this project had already been started and since the original parties have failed, the new company which is attempting to rescue the project has already doubled the amount of capital in addition to nearly tripling the land area. However, the terms of the takeover are very clear which states that this is a marine mammal tourist park with a dolphinarium so if its going to happen the best anyone can do is try provide the best environment for the dolphins as possible. I still harbor hopes that the dolphin part can be eliminated and in its place a bigger aquarium or even more than one aquarium and for the same money produce something that puts Aquaria to shame as current plans already include an aquarium half the size of Aquaria's so imagine without dolphins you could have more than twice the size and even have a whole reef.

What does it have to do with me? Well, I studied finance in University and my first job was in investment banking. I was exposed to the world of finance during my early teens as my parents subscribed Business Week, Economist, Malaysian Business and even current affairs like Newsweek, Far Eastern Economic Review (before it was banned those days) and I was given annual reports of public listed companies to read. I've since moved on and basically my life's work has changed dramatically as I now help run our family's orphanage but purely from the financial side so fundraising, investing whatever money we have etc. Next year I will assume more responsibility and I guess at some point I will take over from my father. So although my priority is the orphanage, I do have a business with another two in the pipeline along with some investments in property and the stock market. Basically, with regards to this dolphin venture I'm basically looking out for the interests of the company's chairman but I don't own any shares in the company nor am I employed by the company and it does not require much of my time as I'm focused primarily on everything related to the finances of the venture so I look at everything and anything to do money from costs to loans to rate of returns to pro forma statements of cashflow, revenue, etc. I was offered the chance to be a part of the venture but I do not agree with the concept and I also have to juggle my own ventures/investments.

I hope that answers your question?


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^ so we know youre superrich and could spend so much time writing essays that no one cares about. Your point is ?!? rolleyes.gif

THAT aside, where can I find fish shop in kl/pj area that carries tigrinus catfish? Cty in pg has a defective one if anyone is interested. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(ivanchua @ Nov 19 2010, 12:43 AM)
^ so we know youre superrich and could spend so much time writing essays that no one cares about. Your point is ?!?  rolleyes.gif 

THAT aside, where can I find fish shop in kl/pj area that carries tigrinus catfish? Cty in pg has a defective one if anyone is interested.  hmm.gif
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Well I was answering a question and anyways if I was super rich I'd have had a whole pond of monster fish by now built by consultants rather than hoping for free advice from forums but I got lucky as I found Jason's shop and he is quite sure that I can achieve my goal using free flowing river water. Mission accomplished IMHO. Anyways, good luck with your search for the catfish which I'm sure Jason or khairul anwar could easily source for you.


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QUOTE(ivanchua @ Nov 19 2010, 12:43 AM)
^ so we know youre superrich and could spend so much time writing essays that no one cares about. Your point is ?!?  rolleyes.gif 

THAT aside, where can I find fish shop in kl/pj area that carries tigrinus catfish? Cty in pg has a defective one if anyone is interested.  hmm.gif
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bro this thread is for sharing....as i stated before you can share everything here..respect other people if you want other respect you...so watch out your word!


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QUOTE(PIMPIN @ Nov 18 2010, 07:43 PM)
Back to the topic at hand, in terms of keeping fishes as 'pets' then all I have is a pond full of Koi and a marine tank both of which are at my Damansara House. I've always wanted monster freshwater fishes but didn't want to rush into it until I'm confident I can provide the best possible environment for them.

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sure 1 day u will bro...malaysia Boleh thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(ivanchua @ Nov 19 2010, 12:43 AM)
^ so we know youre superrich and could spend so much time writing essays that no one cares about. Your point is ?!?  rolleyes.gif 

THAT aside, where can I find fish shop in kl/pj area that carries tigrinus catfish? Cty in pg has a defective one if anyone is interested.  hmm.gif
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hmmm... not sure bout other shop that carries them....

but forRM 500-600 , call 016 222 777 2, the person can get you a tigrinus around 5-6" with symmetrical bars on both sides.. rclxms.gif

flavicans catfish also got, niger catfish also got, gulper catfish also got, those biasa normal ikan keli catfish also got... whistling.gif

Added on November 19, 2010, 11:25 ami have heard a lot of people keeping monster fish.... yeah, monster fish, but not in a monster size though...!!!!

alligator gar available.... anyone? 4-5"


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QUOTE(PIMPIN @ Nov 19 2010, 01:06 AM)
Well I was answering a question and anyways if I was super rich I'd have had a whole pond of monster fish by now built by consultants rather than hoping for free advice from forums but I got lucky as I found Jason's shop and he is quite sure that I can achieve my goal using free flowing river water. Mission accomplished IMHO. Anyways, good luck with your search for the catfish which I'm sure Jason or khairul anwar could easily source for you.
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i want to be your VIP guest!! ehehhee.... nak la layan kolam ngan sungai ko tu... icon_rolleyes.gif


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I admire PIMPIN dedication to this hobby... But I just cant finish reading all the essays lol..

I just glanced through the essay and yeah it does answer my question.. Sorry if it took a lot of time for you to type it..
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QUOTE(khairulanuar @ Nov 19 2010, 09:16 AM)
bro this thread is for sharing....as i stated before you can share everything here..respect other people if you want other respect you...so watch out your word!


Hahah bro, sabar. I'm not easily offended especially when its by an anonymous person online. icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(ggMing @ Nov 19 2010, 11:24 AM)
i have heard a lot of people keeping monster fish.... yeah, monster fish, but not in a monster size though...!!!!
very well said rclxms.gif
i want to be your VIP guest!! ehehhee.... nak la layan kolam ngan sungai ko tu... icon_rolleyes.gif
Jason,

You mean kept by monster size person or in a monster sized pond? cry.gif

Hahahah no lah, I'm just kidding.

Anyways, you will definitely be coming because I'd have no idea how to build the pond on my own LOL. As mentioned the earlier pond shown to you was built using common sense which doesn't mean its as the best for the fish (depth, length, etc). Plus that was a pure cement pond with sand used on the bottom and because the water cycles 24/7, I have no idea if there are leaks because obviously the water is being topped up even as it leaks out. Nevertheless, I will probably use pond liners just to be safe.

Anyways, I will come to your shop next weekend or the following week to discuss the fishes first as well as the fibreglass tanks, etc. As you've mentioned some fishes need time to source so we'll decide on a list of fishes and I'll buy the tank, etc first and give you whatever deposit you need for the fishes needed and once you've sourced them I'll pick them up hopefully all at the same time.

QUOTE(BenSow @ Nov 19 2010, 02:49 PM)
I admire PIMPIN dedication to this hobby... But I just cant finish reading all the essays lol..

I just glanced through the essay and yeah it does answer my question.. Sorry if it took a lot of time for you to type it..
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Well bro, technically its not a hobby just yet. Don't worry about the length, took me maybe 10-12 mins max but if at least one person learns something about bottle nose dolphins then its time well spent. Forums live and die on the willingness of members to take the time to share knowledge, experiences, etc. To be honest, on other forums on which I'm more active that's considered normal length for me and pretty much everyone is used to it by now LOL
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haha I always say no to gator gars because they grow super huge...
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haha I always say no to gator gars because they grow super huge...
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Well compared to an Arapaima its not really all that huge is it? 4-5ft in length at most?

Even taking into account the 'biggest alligator gar caught' figures they don't seem to be that big even in the wild in Asia? Plus compared to an Arapaima its not going to look super huge is it? Anyways hopefully I have time to map out the new pond using string to see dimensions and then go from there.

Anyways, I might get a couple of catfish as they are bottom feeders and two arapaimas which feed at the surface so each sort of have their own space. If it were you what else would you add with a maximum of 8 in total but they must be compatible and be substantial in terms of size so they don't eat each other. What's your opinion Ben?

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Currently, I have this pond which took two guys just under 2 weeks to build by hand. Both have no prior experience in building ponds so they sort of figured it out themselves.

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This is where the water comes from and is fresh river water which is channeled in PVC pipes that comes in rolls 150m long each and we went through quite a few roles but this was done easily a year ago and has never clogged up. However, Jason recommended that future pond have multiple inlets to reduce dead space.

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This is water clarity (first picture taken sometime back, second picture last week) and considering its rainy season and there is no filtration whatsoever aside from netting on the PVC inlet pipes so that no debris can enter. Otherwise, all sorts of sediment is able to enter so I reckon on a whole its quite good. New pond will be deeper is going to need proper system in place.

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The water cycles 24/7 as there is an overflow which leads back to the same river which runs for 200m. Basically there is nothing else upstream in terms of properties or houses so its as close to the source as possible.

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If you guys want any catfish just PM me because its purely for consumption as well as friends and family.


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Kelah bara, one of my adult tank
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What do you do with all that kelah?

QUOTE(ivanchua @ Nov 20 2010, 12:09 AM)
My koi tank. All from atarikoi tmn desa. Pima has since been moved out.
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Where has Pima gone too? Would you mind sharing more pictures?


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You must be a retard. Was my question directed at you? Is this an OT or primitive fish thread? Are you interested in knowing how long it took me to drop a 3lbs dump?
Now lets share some of my "everything" (primitive or what not):

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ggming, your price is quite steep. Pic of the said tig?
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Please.. Don't be so rude here biggrin.gif but I have to admit you have wonderful stock.. My favourite is your camera haha and the Amelanistic RTC where did you manage to get it?

Mind share pond and tank size?

I'll add you to the member list thumbup.gif

Thanks
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Ivan, will get you a quote again, this quote is based on an estimate.... but well again, my price might be higher, but quality assured... you can ask around from others who got their fishes from me.... biggrin.gif

will send you a pic later bro.... if you can wait, i'll make sure it will be worth the while...

AHHH...... nampak tak sungai Pimpin.... aku nak lepak tepi sungai tengok ikan..... Bro, i seriously want to visit your place... and will definitely help you to achieve what you want...

your place is just the right place hold up a BBQ/ Fish hobbyist gatherings for a weekend getaway.... that if you dont mind of course...
or you could start your own fish santuary... isn't it great?


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QUOTE(Crazyboyrs @ Nov 19 2010, 08:52 PM)
anyone has Coelacanth?
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i've got a rainbow wolf fish that looks like coelacanth... ahhahahaa......

nope, i dont think anyone is keeping coelacanth


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I eat them. j/k. They're my pets. Not fish you'd want to keep for commercial purposes due to their awfully slow growth rate. I'm a hardcore fish keeper. I also keep river fishes like you do in my factorys mud pond for own consumption.

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Where has Pima gone too? Would you mind sharing more pictures?
The pima is currently in my 10 footer 560gal acrylic tank with the rtcs, tsn, rtctsn, gator gars and temensis. I'll try to get more pic when I get off work later. Kelahs are in 4x8x2.5 tank. Filtration was homemade skippy style + the ohf that came with the tank. Koi tank is similar except that it's 3' high. Aros are each housed in a 6x2.5x2.5 with eheim pro 3. I have plenty of reason to not run the sump tank system because it gave me so much problems in the past (14yrs back). Maybe it was manufacturing defects but I've not looked back since I moved from that system to Pro2 and currently Pro3.

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Ben, I do apologize but don't you think its odd for khairul to tell me anything about respect when pimpin was all cool about it? Anyway, I shall stop there .


Pimpin,

Do you build your pond lower than the river water level? How d'you get the water to stabilize ata the current level without ball float ? Unless the water is drawn from the upper part of the river then again even river water level fluctuates. No offence but your pond looks like my concrete cube holding pond minus the waterfall but notworthy.gif it's an effort nonetheless laugh.gif


ggMing, Thanks! I'll wait. You should still have my nums. I msg you the other day. I'm also into gulper cat, whats their size and is there any way you could differentiate between male and female? I'd be very keen to get a pair. And if you could also source amelanistic rtc let me know. Thought mine could get company since the bio load is way too light. I might be just asking but if the price is right then who knows... smile.gif
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I admire so many people now... mr. chua's stock and tanks are amazing... so is your water quality.. How many tanks do you have and how big are they? Thanks
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QUOTE(ivanchua @ Nov 20 2010, 01:29 PM)
I eat them. j/k. They're my pets. Not fish you'd want to keep for commercial purposes due to their awfully slow growth rate. I'm a hardcore fish keeper. I also keep river fishes like you do in my factorys mud pond for own consumption.
The pima is currently in my 10 footer 560gal acrylic tank with the rtcs, tsn, rtctsn, gator gars and temensis. I'll try to get more pic when I get off work later. Kelahs are in 4x8x2.5 tank. Filtration was homemade skippy style + the ohf that came with the tank. Koi tank is similar except that it's 3' high. Aros are each housed in a 6x2.5x2.5 with eheim pro 3. I have plenty of reason to not run the sump tank system because it gave me so much problems in the past (14yrs back). Maybe it was manufacturing defects but I've not looked back since I moved from that system to Pro2 and currently Pro3.
Ben, I do apologize but don't you think its odd for khairul to tell me anything about respect when pimpin was all cool about it? Anyway, I shall stop there .
Pimpin,

Do you build your pond lower than the river water level? How d'you get the water to stabilize ata the current level without ball float ? Unless the water is drawn from the upper part of the river then again even river water level fluctuates. No offence but your pond looks like my concrete cube holding pond minus the waterfall but  notworthy.gif it's an effort nonetheless laugh.gif
ggMing, Thanks! I'll wait. You should still have my nums. I msg you the other day. I'm also into gulper cat, whats their size and is there any way you could differentiate between male and female? I'd be very keen to get a pair. And if you could also source amelanistic rtc let me know. Thought mine could get company since the bio load is way too light. I might be just asking but if the price is right then who knows... smile.gif
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1. Gulper Males has got a d***... seriously....

2. Is amelanistic the so called platinum....??? if so, i can get it for you... Amelanistic RT
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Pimpin,

Do you build your pond lower than the river water level? How d'you get the water to stabilize ata the current level without ball float ? Unless the water is drawn from the upper part of the river then again even river water level fluctuates. No offence but your pond looks like my concrete cube holding pond minus the waterfall but  notworthy.gif it's an effort nonetheless laugh.gif
ggMing, Thanks! I'll wait. You should still have my nums. I msg you the other day. I'm also into gulper cat, whats their size and is there any way you could differentiate between male and female? I'd be very keen to get a pair. And if you could also source amelanistic rtc let me know. Thought mine could get company since the bio load is way too light. I might be just asking but if the price is right then who knows... smile.gif
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Ivan,

That's pretty much what it is. I was going to say a bowl but it seemed a bit crude. The water comes close to 500m upriver and the 'pond' itself is higher than the river and the overflow goes back into the river but downstream. The river water level used to be between knee and waist high depending on which part of the river but currently the deepest point has been increased to roughly 10 feet.

You're right in saying that the river water does fluctuate but only during rainy season when its noticeably higher with a stronger current/flow. Regardless, the level inside the pond does not fluctuate as no matter what there is constant flow into the pond so its just a question of how fast the pond overflows back into the river. I hope that explanation makes sense.

But I believe with a little guidance, the guys who built it could easily build a proper pond as they're quite handy with their hands and very creative; using whatever that's available in on the property or surrounding woods. Slightly off-topic but these two guys built two of these gazebos by hand; which each taking about 10 days to complete. Even the bridge was hand built using bamboo that line the perimeter of the property.
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Anyways, your collection is nothing short of impressive! I see you're into Koi; a hobby I've yet to appreaciate. Currently I only have cheap Koi because the house came with a pond complete with filtration, etc however the depth apparently isn't ideal (2ft) but leaving it empty would look weird. Plus, at the time my old friend from Uni just started a Koi business in Tropicana (Koi Division) so I bought the cheaper ones just to show my support for an old friend. Otherwise, I generally don't know much about Koi and I don't see that changing in the future.

Looking forward to more pictures of the 10ft tank and even some of the Koi tank as well; always thought they needed deep ponds like 4+ feet as it affects the growth but what do I know LOL


Added on November 21, 2010, 11:34 amP.S: How deep is the 10ft tank?

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Wow so nice... everyone's tanks and stocks look amazing.. too bad i cant have a giant tank yet >< maybe in two years time tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ivanchua @ Nov 20 2010, 12:09 AM)
You must be a retard. Was my question directed at you? Is this an OT or primitive fish thread? Are you interested in knowing how long it took me to drop a 3lbs dump?
Now lets share some of my "everything" (primitive or what not):

Kelah bara, one of my adult tank
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My koi tank. All from atarikoi tmn desa. Pima has since been moved out.
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Amelanistic rtc, ord rtc, temensis, pima, malayan xback
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red and gold aros.
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Tig, he decided to choke to death one day a few weeks ago. Got him when he was 4 1/2".
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ggming, your price is quite steep. Pic of the said tig?
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Not to barge in but, lovely tanchos and kohaku's you have there.
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QUOTE(beardiekid @ Nov 21 2010, 04:51 PM)
Not to barge in but, lovely tanchos and kohaku's you have there.
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You're not barging in biggrin.gif Im sure he appreciate your comments..
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guys, i need ur favor, can tell me how to differentiate an alligator gar from other gar fish??

i know alligator gar has wider and shorter snout. however i really hope to have certain proofs since alligator gar is not a cheap fish.


Added on November 22, 2010, 12:41 ambtw, can i know how to differentiate their sex? and wat are the diffs of male and female Alligator gar? like in terms of size, shape, temperament etc.

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QUOTE(ivanchua @ Nov 20 2010, 01:29 PM)
Ben, I do apologize but don't you think its odd for khairul to tell me anything about respect when pimpin was all cool about it? Anyway, I shall stop there
Ivan im the one who really wanted this thread alive with all the info's and picture's...i dont want any negative comment in this thread...pls dont misunderstand here. and 1 more im not retard...


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QUOTE(konbawa @ Nov 22 2010, 12:35 AM)
guys, i need ur favor, can tell me how to differentiate an alligator gar from other gar fish??

i know alligator gar has wider and shorter snout. however i really hope to have certain proofs since alligator gar is not a cheap fish.


Added on November 22, 2010, 12:41 ambtw, can i know how to differentiate their sex? and wat are the diffs of male and female Alligator gar? like in terms of size, shape, temperament etc.
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kindly at Malaysia only have aligator gar and florida gar for sale..

the biggest different of both are...the size.

aligator gar much more bigger than florida gar...

max size of aligator gar (captive) = around 6' feet

about the sex i dont know.

1 more alligator gar much more beautiful than florida gar biggrin.gif

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i've got alligator gar for sale... around 5" .... last piece.. ehehhee...

alright, i hope our community inside here respect each other, please do not use unnecessary words... cheers!!!

lets have a mini gathering nak tak!?!
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QUOTE(ggMing @ Nov 22 2010, 10:21 AM)
i've got alligator gar for sale... around 5" .... last piece.. ehehhee...

alright, i hope our community inside here respect each other, please do not use unnecessary words... cheers!!!

lets have a mini gathering nak tak!?!
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gathering where bro? Wanna make rare fish sale? Lucky draw? Winner gets rare fish! rclxms.gif
good suggestion? drool.gif


from my side:
Channa aurantimaculata (7inch)
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Channa assam blue sp. (5inch)
Hydrocynus vittatus (6inch) (EXTREMELY RARE AND LIMITED!)
Belodontichthys dinema (10inch) (SUPER DUPER RARE ITEM!!!)
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Boulengerella maculata (7inch) (RARE ITEM!!!)
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Erythrinus purple sp. (4inch) (SUPER DUPER RARE ITEM!!! NOT COMMON RAINBOW WOLF!)
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Hoplias malabaricus (6 inch) (LIMITED!!!)
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Wild blue heckel discus (4inch) (SEASONAL ITEM, ITS NOW OR... NEXT YEAR) biggrin.gif
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Heterotis niloticus (5 inch)
Wild caught Polypterus delhezi (5inch)
RREA Albino Full Red Guppy (1.5-2.5inch) (Female with large and extended dorsal)
Moscow Black Guppy (1.5-2.5inch) (Female with extended dorsal)
Albino Full White Guppy (1.5-2.5inch)

(pics obtain from internet as an illustration only, no time snap pics)
PM me if interested! rclxm9.gif

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This thread is amazing biggrin.gif

Yea.. a meeting should be nice.. but Ive got nothing to show >< I only have the passion for rare fish... Cant keep yet...
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QUOTE(BenSow @ Nov 22 2010, 04:08 PM)
This thread is amazing biggrin.gif

Yea.. a meeting should be nice.. but Ive got nothing to show >< I only have the passion for rare fish... Cant keep yet...
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its ok i also dont have much fish to show bro....keep the passion 1st..1 day u will have the real rare fish wink.gif
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QUOTE(BenSow @ Nov 22 2010, 04:08 PM)
This thread is amazing biggrin.gif

Yea.. a meeting should be nice.. but Ive got nothing to show >< I only have the passion for rare fish... Cant keep yet...
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doesnt matter. i think a meeting should be just fun if its held at brother ming's place..
everyone get to know each other.. everyone get to see those rare fishes.. get to share fish keeping information etc etc..
soon we'll have MonsterFishKeepers Malaysia version.. rclxms.gif
heheheh... this sounds just GREAT! icon_idea.gif


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QUOTE(khairulanuar @ Nov 22 2010, 04:16 PM)
its ok i also dont have much fish to show bro....keep the passion 1st..1 day u will have the real rare fish wink.gif
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yeap.. just a matter of time biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(joshualim86 @ Nov 22 2010, 04:40 PM)
doesnt matter. i think a meeting should be just fun if its held at brother ming's place..
everyone get to know each other.. everyone get to see those rare fishes.. get to share fish keeping information etc etc..
soon we'll have MonsterFishKeepers Malaysia version.. rclxms.gif
heheheh... this sounds just GREAT! icon_idea.gif


Added on November 22, 2010, 4:50 pm

yeap.. just a matter of time biggrin.gif
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Hahahaha...MFK Malaysia rclxm9.gif
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Hahahaha...MFK Malaysia  rclxm9.gif
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MFK got huge giant tank.. we got PIMPIN's future dolphin tank/pond.. thumbup.gif
dont pray pray..
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hahaha...dont pray pray arrr
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monsterfishkeepers.com.MY!! whee~~
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monsterfishkeepers.com.MY!! whee~~
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LOL!
Ben.. so u gonna start one? tongue.gif

Btw.. just wondering.. how do we attract more new blood into rare and exotic fish keeping within Msia?
i know it sounds silly but i'm sure it's just the matter of time for Malaysians to obtain such hobby..

price is one.. but i dont see why is it impossible for Malaysians to own such fish.. many were capable of keeping asian arowanas. Not 1, not 2 but few.. I've seen many of them! and thats a couple thousands bucks!!!
In Japan, the Japanese spent RM30,000(after convertion from yen) to buy asian aro, to buy datnoides pulcher at such rocket price! The other asian countries were as well into these fish keeping which includes Taiwan, Indonesia, Singapore, Philippines, Thailand, China etc.. why not us???


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bensow, now joshua has got your most wanted african aro.... are you getting it?
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QUOTE(ivanchua @ Nov 22 2010, 10:14 PM)
Pics are worth a thousand words. So here goes.

Look what I've got today. tongue.gif
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With the tankmates..
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Other growout tanks.. missing the tigs though..  sad.gif
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Fla & Gator growout
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Josh none of the pics you posted are yours, aye?
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nice collection bro..

yea.. its stated on my post loud and clear.

currently not in msia.. wait till i get back there first.. still, my fish looks the same as pics.

wait till i get back.. then will re-edit:)
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ahh.. missed that part. my bad..

and you're in?
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ahh.. missed that part. my bad..

and you're in?
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no problem smile.gif
so bro how much u got the black aro? nice fins really! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(joshualim86 @ Nov 22 2010, 05:24 PM)
MFK got huge giant tank.. we got PIMPIN's future dolphin tank/pond.. thumbup.gif
dont pray pray..
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Don't hold your breath bro. Just started measuring the new ponds dimensions and should be ordering materials later this week or latest next week but its going to be the same concept - river water flowing 24/7 but this time through filtration of sponges and brushes (will probably get my friend from Koi Division to recommend a suitable setup).

Currently my concrete pond is 22x15x3 and I've emptied that pond over past couple days and just starting demolition as I've decided to make it in same place but bigger and deeper half of it above ground.

Someone on MFK suggested going for bottom drains rather than overflows but have yet to figure out how to go about it because if inlet gets blocked then pond would drain out but in terms of water quality its better as the water cycles more compared to overflow since its all natural. I guess I'll be posting updates there so as not to litter this thread with 'irrelevant' information since it doesn't involve primitive fish - yet.

Jason - will see you Monday week or sometime during and you're welcome to come enjoy the river anytime. I try to go once a week but usually twice a month is the average depending on workload.
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QUOTE(PIMPIN @ Nov 22 2010, 11:09 PM)
Don't hold your breath bro. Just started measuring the new ponds dimensions and should be ordering materials later this week or latest next week but its going to be the same concept - river water flowing 24/7 but this time through filtration of sponges and brushes (will probably get my friend from Koi Division to recommend a suitable setup).

Currently my concrete pond is 22x15x3 and I've emptied that pond over past couple days and just starting demolition as I've decided to make it in same place but bigger and deeper half of it above ground.

Someone on MFK suggested going for bottom drains rather than overflows but have yet to figure out how to go about it because if inlet gets blocked then pond would drain out but in terms of water quality its better as the water cycles more compared to overflow since its all natural. I guess I'll be posting updates there so as not to litter this thread with 'irrelevant' information since it doesn't involve primitive fish - yet.

Jason - will see you Monday week or sometime during and you're welcome to come enjoy the river anytime. I try to go once a week but usually twice a month is the average depending on workload.
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that just sound awesome!
make sure u keep this thread updated bro.. jason is well experianced, he should know whats best for this! cant wait to see the complete setup!
i'm sure all the readers here are dying to see this fantastic project! biggrin.gif
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bensow, now joshua has got your most wanted african aro.... are you getting it?
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maybe.. have to clear tank first biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

african aro.. so niiice


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QUOTE(ivanchua @ Nov 22 2010, 10:14 PM)
Pics are worth a thousand words. So here goes.

Look what I've got today. tongue.gif
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

Josh none of the pics you posted are yours, aye?


Added on November 22, 2010, 10:24 pm

Check HERE

So far, I've not known or heard of anyone who could determine the sex of any gars. (w/exception to ichthyologist and fish research center) Are you planning to breed them?
So Jason, any news on the tig i enquired and hook me up on the plat rtc as well.
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Im so freaking jealous.. at the number of tanks you have.. not the stock XD


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LOL!
Ben.. so u gonna start one? tongue.gif

Btw.. just wondering.. how do we attract more new blood into rare and exotic fish keeping within Msia?
i know it sounds silly but i'm sure it's just the matter of time for Malaysians to obtain such hobby..

price is one.. but i dont see why is it impossible for Malaysians to own such fish.. many were capable of keeping asian arowanas. Not 1, not 2 but few.. I've seen many of them! and thats a couple thousands bucks!!!
In Japan, the Japanese spent RM30,000(after convertion from yen) to buy asian aro, to buy datnoides pulcher at such rocket price! The other asian countries were as well into these fish keeping which includes Taiwan, Indonesia, Singapore, Philippines, Thailand, China etc.. why not us???
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I can't.. Just 15 here lol... And I have heard from the upper people in MFK.. very hard to maintain that site...

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here is my gar fish ...
currently 35inch long...why it can''t reach 4 feet length?
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here is my gar fish ...
currently 35inch long...why it can''t reach 4 feet length?
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u MUST provide larger tank or space to let ur fish grow further!

btw.. why sell ur fish???

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Ok testting me..

its a gator gar?

florida hav spots one if nt mistaken
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QUOTE(szechao @ Nov 22 2010, 11:56 PM)
here is my gar fish ...
currently 35inch long...why it can''t reach 4 feet length?
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In a 4' tank? For real? grumble.gif

Nice gator otherwise.

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QUOTE(joshualim86 @ Nov 22 2010, 08:56 PM)
LOL!
Ben.. so u gonna start one? tongue.gif

Btw.. just wondering.. how do we attract more new blood into rare and exotic fish keeping within Msia?
i know it sounds silly but i'm sure it's just the matter of time for Malaysians to obtain such hobby..

price is one.. but i dont see why is it impossible for Malaysians to own such fish.. many were capable of keeping asian arowanas. Not 1, not 2 but few.. I've seen many of them! and thats a couple thousands bucks!!!
In Japan, the Japanese spent RM30,000(after convertion from yen) to buy asian aro, to buy datnoides pulcher at such rocket price! The other asian countries were as well into these fish keeping which includes Taiwan, Indonesia, Singapore, Philippines, Thailand, China etc.. why not us???
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this is very simple.... expose them to fishes.....

i started fish keeping at 7, and to date, when i walk in to a fish shop, be it high end shop or low end shop, i still see the same stuff....

neon tetra, tigerbarb, yellow lab and such.....


Added on November 23, 2010, 11:27 am
QUOTE(BenSow @ Nov 22 2010, 11:21 PM)
maybe.. have to clear tank first  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif

african aro.. so niiice


Added on November 22, 2010, 11:22 pm

Im so freaking jealous.. at the number of tanks you have.. not the stock XD


Added on November 22, 2010, 11:30 pm

I can't.. Just 15 here lol... And I have heard from the upper people in MFK.. very hard to maintain that site...
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see, this is what i mean lor.... ask for fishes, then say people never get back to you.... now got fishes, you tell people maybe getting.... how to get fish for you?

thats why, ask for fishes only when you are ready.... not asking for it whole year round, and then say i always never get back to you...


PIMPIN, i nearly got myself 2 arapaimas to stock my shop just to show you.... but luckily, i pull handbrake... LOL...

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QUOTE(ggMing @ Nov 23 2010, 11:10 AM)
this is very simple.... expose them to fishes.....

i started fish keeping at 7, and to date, when i walk in to a fish shop, be it high end shop or low end shop, i still see the same stuff....

neon tetra, tigerbarb, yellow lab and such.....
ya thats one huge problem. all common fishes only. doh.gif

personally i would say exposing wont just do the job..

i realised numbers of young fish keepers are coming up, many were of course well educated (curious). I believe with little things like MFK sticker together with website and then get it paste on fish tanks on LFS will make them take their first move by browsing around MFK. Not one just LFS! a few maybe biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(joshualim86 @ Nov 23 2010, 12:38 AM)
u MUST provide larger tank or space to let ur fish grow further!

btw.. why sell ur fish???
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previously i wana sell it because no space for him...
but im not willing let it go..i decided ungrade my fish tank soon..
6feet x 4feet is it suitable for my gar?
i just bought another baby gar yesterday laugh.gif

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QUOTE(szechao @ Nov 23 2010, 06:00 PM)
previously i wana sell it because no space for him...
but im not willing let it go..i decided ungrade my fish tank soon..
6feet x 4feet is it suitable for my gar?
i just bought another baby gar yesterday laugh.gif
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I'm afraid u will need to transfer ur fish to a pond or into FGT. hehehe..

anyways here's some new arrival:

Wild Caught Betta macrostoma (Type F1)

Male
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Female
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PM me if interested smile.gif
FCFS (only 1 pair)



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I'm afraid u will need to transfer ur fish to a pond or into FGT. hehehe..
Ditto! nod.gif
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Yea.. but its hard trying to keep up this hobby for young ones in this modern time.. in msia.. many ppl look down... ive been called names for keeping fish lol... but who cares tongue.gif


haizzzz.. cash cash cash.. MAIN prob i cant expand my hobby T.T

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QUOTE(BenSow @ Nov 23 2010, 11:27 PM)
Yea.. but its hard trying to keep up this hobby for young ones in this modern time.. in msia.. many ppl look down... ive been called names for keeping fish lol... but who cares tongue.gif
haizzzz.. cash cash cash.. MAIN prob i cant expand my hobby T.T
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its hard to keep up even for adults... vmad.gif
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QUOTE(joshualim86 @ Nov 23 2010, 09:24 PM)
I'm afraid u will need to transfer ur fish to a pond or into FGT. hehehe..

anyways here's some new arrival:

Wild Caught Betta macrostoma (Type F1)

Male
user posted image

Female
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PM me if interested smile.gif
FCFS (only 1 pair)
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wow...is it from local one?
how big can this species grow?
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QUOTE(ivanchua @ Nov 22 2010, 10:14 PM)
Pics are worth a thousand words. So here goes.

Look what I've got today. tongue.gif
user posted image

With the tankmates..
user posted image

Other growout tanks.. missing the tigs though..  sad.gif
user posted image
user posted image

Fla & Gator growout
user posted image
Josh none of the pics you posted are yours, aye?


Added on November 22, 2010, 10:24 pm

Check HERE

So far, I've not known or heard of anyone who could determine the sex of any gars. (w/exception to ichthyologist and fish research center) Are you planning to breed them?
So Jason, any news on the tig i enquired and hook me up on the plat rtc as well.
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will get a pic and post here for u soon....
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QUOTE(szechao @ Nov 24 2010, 02:03 PM)
wow...is it from local one?
how big can this species grow?
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definitely nope...joshua always bring fishes from other country rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(khairulanuar @ Nov 24 2010, 03:54 PM)
definitely nope...joshua always bring fishes from other country rclxms.gif
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i think what he meant is if the fish originated from Msia???? hehehhee.....

who wants Armatus Payara? flex.gif
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QUOTE(ggMing @ Nov 24 2010, 03:57 PM)
i think what he meant is if the fish originated from Msia???? hehehhee.....

who wants Armatus Payara?  flex.gif
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hahaha...but i dont think malaysia ada that kind of betta... brows.gif


how much is the armatus
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hahaha...but i dont think malaysia ada that kind of betta... brows.gif
how much is the armatus
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betta macrostoma can be found in borneo / sarawak....

i can also get my hands on betta macrostoma, betta unimaculata, betta occelata and all sorts of wild and show betta...

armatus same price for you bro, but size is 1-2" smaller than the Red Tail ...

BTW, Pimpin, i already stock 2 pcs of Arapaima....
reason is to grow them while you sort out your stuff....

Guys, i have this Bio-Montromolite Clay for sale....
selling in 3grams pack... which treats 100litres of water...

it is proven to ...

1. Speed up growth of fishes (quoted from a fish farm owner who is using the product)
2. Replenish the trace elements in our aquarium water because everything is filter out by Syabas/ water provider
3. Brings out / enhance the fish color

I'm selling per pack at RM8 only..
this is something which cost a little, i hope you guys will give it a try.... IF you love your fishes.... tongue.gif

I'll also be selling this during AQUAFAIR!!!

**** i might not be there, but my friend will be there to sell it... most probably, i'll be going on Friday and Saturday..
so, whos gonna be there.... i want to gather you guys around so i can intro you guys to my friends and other fish hobbyist as well....




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New residents of my grow out 280g 6x2.5x2.5:
juve occellaris and pima if you must know. smile.gif

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QUOTE(khairulanuar @ Nov 24 2010, 03:54 PM)
definitely nope...joshua always bring fishes from other country rclxms.gif
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it is from Msia la this fish.. LOL.
ggMing got it right! biggrin.gif

btw.. the b.macs are gone...


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QUOTE(ivanchua @ Nov 25 2010, 02:41 AM)
New residents of my grow out 280g 6x2.5x2.5:

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juve occellaris and pima if you must know.  smile.gif
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Great addition!
But... Seriously common C. occellaris dont look great. Colour looks dull le. zzzzz....
Bro.. since ur into rare fish keeping why not consider C. temensis, C. kelberi, C. orino, C. piquiti (aka azul), C. tocantins etc etc...
Then ur collection will be must must nicer! biggrin.gif

bro ggMing, ur C.temensis masih ada stock? post some pics!!!

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QUOTE(joshualim86 @ Nov 25 2010, 02:53 AM)
it is from Msia la this fish.. LOL.
ggMing got it right! biggrin.gif

btw.. the b.macs are gone...


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Great addition!
But... Seriously common C. occellaris dont look great. Colour looks dull le. zzzzz....
Bro.. since ur into rare fish keeping why not consider C. temensis, C. kelberi, C. orino, C. piquiti (aka azul), C. tocantins etc etc...
Then ur collection will be must must nicer! biggrin.gif

bro ggMing, ur C.temensis masih ada stock? post some pics!!!
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Yes, My temensis is still here... will try snap some pics....
Joshua, drop me a call.....

i understand why ivan stock on occelaris.... its their color... you see them in the holding tank, confirm you will buy... coz its cheap mah..... i manage to pull my handbrakes coz ive got temensis... btw, ivan has got temensis too...

btw, i know this dude who is a true monsterfish keeper..... own a few 8' , 10, 12' and even 14' tank......


Added on November 25, 2010, 8:39 ami think the bag which holds the Occelaris with the Red Marker on kinda bongkar where you got it.... hahahahhaha

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^ MFKs think alike. Hahahahahha!!!!! For 15 each + striking color, red eyes and last 4 remaining, how could anyone not......? drool.gif

Josh, temensis would be the dull-est pb imo. Then again, to each his own. Enormous size of the temensis almost always offset the color of occellaris, for most mfk at least.


With those tanks, what's his stocks like?

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this thread is getting reaallyyy poisonous...

@ mr chua- really?? to me temensis are the best pb smile.gif I like the white patterns...
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QUOTE(ivanchua @ Nov 25 2010, 12:04 PM)
^ MFKs think alike. Hahahahahha!!!!! For 15 each + striking color, red eyes and last 4 remaining, how could anyone not......?  drool.gif

Josh, temensis would be the dull-est pb imo. Then again, to each his own. Enormous size of the temensis almost always offset the color of occellaris, for most mfk at least.
With those tanks, what's his stocks like?
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consist of b****es.... oops, i mean bichirs thumbup.gif .... cichla of all sorts.... rays, aro, plecos, catfishes... and lots more monster fish.... i've never visit his place before, but i saw the tanks and fishes on his mobile... a video...


Added on November 26, 2010, 11:09 ami'm wondering if Ben is interested with african Aro... Rm 88!!!

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QUOTE(ggMing @ Nov 25 2010, 08:31 PM)
consist of b****es.... oops, i mean bichirs thumbup.gif .... cichla of all sorts.... rays, aro, plecos, catfishes... and lots more monster fish.... i've never visit his place before, but i saw the tanks and fishes on his mobile... a video...


Added on November 26, 2010, 11:09 ami'm wondering if Ben is interested with african Aro... Rm 88!!!
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F**K! so cheap!!! get it ben thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(ggMing @ Nov 25 2010, 08:31 PM)
consist of b****es.... oops, i mean bichirs thumbup.gif .... cichla of all sorts.... rays, aro, plecos, catfishes... and lots more monster fish.... i've never visit his place before, but i saw the tanks and fishes on his mobile... a video...


Added on November 26, 2010, 11:09 ami'm wondering if Ben is interested with african Aro... Rm 88!!!
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rm88?? where where!! im trying to sell my fish.. but dunno anyone wanna buy anot.. especially my silver aro.. he's not very healthy or in "perfect" condition


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New residents of my grow out 280g 6x2.5x2.5:

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juve occellaris and pima if you must know.  smile.gif
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lemme guess..frm Pudu?

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i wanna go aquafair... but dam i nid to go midvalley 2mr.. mum wan go buy clothes -_________________-
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this is very simple.... expose them to fishes.....

i started fish keeping at 7, and to date, when i walk in to a fish shop, be it high end shop or low end shop, i still see the same stuff....

neon tetra, tigerbarb, yellow lab and such.....


Added on November 23, 2010, 11:27 am
see, this is what i mean lor.... ask for fishes, then say people never get back to you.... now got fishes, you tell people maybe getting.... how to get fish for you?

thats why, ask for fishes only when you are ready.... not asking for it whole year round, and then say i always never get back to you...
PIMPIN, i nearly got myself 2 arapaimas to stock my shop just to show you.... but luckily, i pull handbrake... LOL...
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QUOTE(ggMing @ Nov 24 2010, 09:27 PM)
betta macrostoma can be found in borneo / sarawak....

i can also get my hands on betta macrostoma, betta unimaculata, betta occelata and all sorts of wild and show betta...

armatus same price for you bro, but size is 1-2" smaller than the Red Tail ...

BTW, Pimpin, i already stock 2 pcs of Arapaima....
reason is to grow them while you sort out your stuff....

Guys, i have this Bio-Montromolite Clay for sale....
selling in 3grams pack... which treats 100litres of water...

it is proven to ...

1. Speed up growth of fishes (quoted from a fish farm owner who is using the product)
2. Replenish the trace elements in our aquarium water because everything is filter out by Syabas/ water provider
3. Brings out / enhance the fish color

I'm selling per pack at RM8 only..
this is something which cost a little, i hope you guys will give it a try.... IF you love your fishes.... tongue.gif

I'll also be selling this during AQUAFAIR!!!

**** i might not be there, but my friend will be there to sell it... most probably, i'll be going on Friday and Saturday..
so, whos gonna be there.... i want to gather you guys around so i can intro you guys to my friends and other fish hobbyist as well....
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Jason,

Sorry for late reply to your PM. As mentioned earlier I was busy with parents just arriving home from Hajj, etc past 3-4 days so that's why I've been MIA. If you still have the pair, give me your banking details. Also, if you're free this Sunday as mentioned via PM maybe you'd like to come and have a look at the pond as I'm about to start demolition and building new pond so your input would be extremely valuable.

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i have got some virus to spread... LOL tongue.gif
They were all temporary under my observation in my own pleco tank.. They seems not very shy even when i tried placing some C. aurantimaculata, P. scalare and other feeders fish in... no problem!! doing good and eating since first day! Taking in beef heart this evening! Check it out!
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QUOTE(khairulanuar @ Nov 22 2010, 08:52 AM)
Ivan im the one  who really wanted this thread alive with all the info's and picture's...i dont want any negative comment in this thread...pls dont misunderstand here. and 1 more im not retard...


Added on November 22, 2010, 9:00 am

kindly at Malaysia only have aligator gar and florida gar for sale..

the biggest different of both are...the size.

aligator gar much more bigger than florida gar...

max size of aligator gar (captive) = around 6' feet

about the sex i dont know.

1 more alligator gar much more beautiful than florida gar  biggrin.gif
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tx for reply tongue.gif however i do see spotted gar(may be is florida although its written 'spotted' wink.gif) and shortnose gar selling in seremban. btw, can check up them whether they are alligator gar? they are around 15-20cm, selling for rm38:


Added on November 27, 2010, 2:14 amare the price tempting or expensive? btw, are they nice specimen there? =D

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^ That's an alligator gar

This is florida/spotted :



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ok minor interruption here tongue.gif

you see,today i happen to chance upon plathydoras costatus.what you guy think about it?
is it rare?i though of getting it..it's merely 1.5 inches.
think it a good deal or should i just get an mature adult?
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The last I saw them was at pudu on sale for rm5.. not a bad fish but grows very slowly... colours tend to fade as it ages


Added on November 27, 2010, 4:21 pmphotos are freakishly tempting.., seriously... ><

I gotta get my hands on some discus.. havent tried them tongue.gif


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^ That's an alligator gar

This is florida/spotted :

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actually there is difference between florida and spotted gar that's why its common for some LFS label wrongly...

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did any go aquafair ? is it interesting ? if it isn't im not gonna go lol so I need advice tongue.gif
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my 1st time aquafair visit was expecting rare and bazzaire fish, so i was dissapointed, ended up bought an acher fish and a dono wat transparent fish just to calm my nerves....

btw, aquafair is worthed it if u are a fans of arowana, gold fish, guppy, discus and betta splend cz there got really nice fish showing in the competition. rm5/entrance =)
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hahahahahaha story from MFK.com

I called a local store and this is what I got.

Me- "hey, do you have any geo's?
Employee- "Any what?'
M-"Geo's, geophagus, or satanoperca juruparii?"
E-"Is that a fish food?"
M-"No, it's a fish, they're also called earth-eaters."
E-"No, we don't sell dirt for fish, and I don't suggest that you put dirt in your aquarium."
M-"No, no, no. The fish is called an earth-eater."
E-"I've don't think there's such thing as a fish that eats dirt."
M-"So, you don't have any?"
E-"If you going to put dirt in the tank, I don't think I'd sell it to you if we did."
M-"Thank you for your time." *click*


I really hate when people that don't know what you're talking about try to talk to you like you're crazy.


Added on November 27, 2010, 11:43 pmanother one lol..

I went to a Petco to grab a few hundred feeder guppies (thats for another story), when I was waiting for them to net them all up, I was listening in on a conversation between a employee and a mother with a whiny kid screaming at a few shellie cichlids
Mother: I would like to buy 10 of these
Kid: I WANNNNNNNNNNNT THEM!
Employee: how big is your tank?
Kid ITS THE BIGGEST ONE EVER
Mother: I believe its 10 gallons
Employee: ummm
Kid: I GOTTA CATCH EM ALL, ASH KETCHUM TOLD ME SO!
Employee: I can't sell you these fish, they get too big, why not try some neon tetras, you can even get 10 of them.
Kid: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
mother: lets go now
kid NO I HATE YOU NOOOOOOOOOOOO

and then they left, while I was in the check out I had my bag of guppies, some baby sunfish were mixed in AND there was a betta fish. I got all of it for 2$. The betta got rehomed but w/e

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QUOTE(Rainman84 @ Nov 27 2010, 02:59 PM)
ok minor interruption here  tongue.gif

you see,today i happen to chance upon plathydoras costatus.what you guy think about it?
is it rare?i though of getting it..it's merely 1.5 inches.
think it a good deal or should i just get an mature adult?
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That depends but I like to keep my fish from young. Good deal like how much?

btw, he's talking about raphael catfish, i had to google myself. lol


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I'm so glad I didn't make a trip down there just for THAT. I somehow knew it'd be more of koi, goldfish, discus etc fair by looking at the past fair photos. Did you get a good deal on the fishes that you bought?
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how many fronts i can keep in a 3 feetx1.5ftx1.5ft tank?
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/\/\ yea, tat only booth tat r selling abit-outrageous fish like scat, moray eel, archer fish some wolffish and dono wat ciclid. de price is quite cheap for instance the eel is rm1-rm2 per head.
in fact, they got more weird fish selling but sold off like pipe fish for rm1.50-2.50 per ekor. and some puffer fish. sadly, those interesting one been sold off.
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QUOTE(konbawa @ Nov 28 2010, 01:53 AM)
/\/\ yea, tat only booth tat r selling abit-outrageous fish like scat, moray eel, archer fish some wolffish and dono wat ciclid. de price is quite cheap for instance the eel is rm1-rm2 per head.
in fact, they got more weird fish selling but sold off like pipe fish for rm1.50-2.50 per ekor. and some puffer fish. sadly, those interesting one been sold off.
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Cheap fish,eh?I'm surprise that there are such booth in there.As i know it's not cheap to set up both there,especially place like klcc(evidence by the entry fee of rm5,should be free by right!!)

Konbawa bro,maybe you can try to get they shop number or address or something.
when aquafair is done.you could drop by their place and get the cheap stuff
I surmise that they have plenty of cheap fish to go around.

by the way,what eel costing 1-2 ringgit,what type?the one you get beside the river?or perhaps fire eel AKA IKAN TILAN?

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Cheap fish,eh?I'm surprise that there are such booth in there.As i know it's not cheap to set up both there,especially place like klcc(evidence by the entry fee of rm5,should be free by right!!)

Konbawa bro,maybe you can try to get they shop number or address or something.
when aquafair is done.you could drop by their place and get the cheap stuff
I surmise that they have plenty of cheap fish to go around.

by the way,what eel costing 1-2 ringgit,what type?the one you get beside the river?or perhaps fire eel AKA IKAN TILAN?
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juz checked their flyers... they are not shops, they are " Persatuan Nelayan Kawasan Pontian", in Johor... and the eel are not fire eel nor the longkang eel. is the brackish water moray eel, the one tat look like the deep sea one...

btw, they sell few types of brackish water puffer fish, leaf fish and some i think caught from see-river side fish all below rm2 each according to their flyer.

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QUOTE(ivanchua @ Nov 28 2010, 12:14 AM)
That depends but I like to keep my fish from young. Good deal like how much?

btw, he's talking about raphael catfish, i had to google myself. lol
I'm so glad I didn't make a trip down there just for THAT. I somehow knew it'd be more of koi, goldfish, discus etc fair by looking at the past fair photos. Did you get a good deal on the fishes that you bought?
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so how rare is this little fellow?i tot to add this fish to my tank(planning to demote my pleco to other tank)
i hear from bensow, that this guy is a BIT slow on the side of growth, if don't mind keeping it with you for next 20 +yrs
just nice since it cheap like around rm 5(the shop proprieter with the look of surprise when i ask what kind of fish is this and what is maximal length this fish will eventually attain,he took few second to adjust the imaginary size of the catfish between his left and right palm)
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leaf fish are quite expensive if not mistaken.. very nice


Added on November 28, 2010, 12:27 pmwhere's the cheapest place to buy aquariums and fiberglass tank above 4' long?

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QUOTE(konbawa @ Nov 27 2010, 02:13 AM)
tx for reply  tongue.gif  however i do see spotted gar(may be is florida although its written 'spotted' wink.gif) and shortnose gar selling in seremban. btw, can check up them whether they are alligator gar? they are around 15-20cm, selling for rm38:


Added on November 27, 2010, 2:14 amare the price tempting or expensive? btw, are they nice specimen there? =D
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where's the cheapest place to buy aquariums and fiberglass tank above 4' long?
Check Marble Goby Enterprise. Prices are all listed on their site. Call them for additional discount. The transport is probably gonna cost you a bit. What are you planning to house in the fgt anyway?

QUOTE(konbawa @ Nov 28 2010, 01:29 PM)
so how is the deal? tempting? or not worth it?
If you have the space and commitment, then by all means go get it. Price wise I think it's a steal. I've got like 6 2-3 incher for $25 each at my lfs ~2 weeks back and I just switched to feeding goldfish instead of longkang fish yesterday biggrin.gif

Anyway, I was told that our gov does not allow alligator gar to be brought into the country and the juve are all somehow smuggled pieces. How far is that true, go figure but I seriously rarely see them on lfs except few years back. I guess they started limiting the quantity coming in since someone caught a pretty big one in pahang.

Here's one of my 4incher feeding


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i have to CALL? i dont really like to call lol.. I PMed them few times no reply...


Added on November 28, 2010, 8:39 pmim just asking... i really want a fiberglass tank... but cashless haizz

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QUOTE(ivanchua @ Nov 28 2010, 08:10 PM)
Check Marble Goby Enterprise. Prices are all listed on their site. Call them for additional discount. The transport is probably gonna cost you a bit.


Whoa quite a selection - the canvas one is new to me. Do you have one by any chance? I only ask as you've obviously got quite the collection of tanks. Btw, just curious where are these guys located as there's no mention on their website but their number has a local prefix.

QUOTE(BenSow @ Nov 28 2010, 08:36 PM)
i have to CALL? i dont really like to call lol.. I PMed them few times no reply...


Added on November 28, 2010, 8:39 pmim just asking... i really want a fiberglass tank... but cashless haizz
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not that i dont wan.. i feel uncomfortable talking to strangers on the phone....

yea they have quite a selection of tanks.. very nice
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not that i dont wan.. i feel uncomfortable talking to strangers on the phone....

yea they have quite a selection of tanks.. very nice
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What size you after? I thought you were getting rid of your fishes why the change of mind?
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i wana ask tat these alligator gars are slim and bit weird proportion of body. they have very big eye, big head, big nose and very slim body. at 1st i tot is normal at young age, but after i see more pics of alli gars has doubted me. and compared to ivanchua gar, these does diff in proportion... izi normal?


Added on November 29, 2010, 12:45 amand, can alligator gar put together wit paroon shark? like around the same size.

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I believe paroon shark will grow faster... I think ok la...
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QUOTE(Rainman84 @ Nov 27 2010, 02:59 PM)
ok minor interruption here  tongue.gif

you see,today i happen to chance upon plathydoras costatus.what you guy think about it?
is it rare?i though of getting it..it's merely 1.5 inches.
think it a good deal or should i just get an mature adult?
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nice fish..i have 2 of them...mix them with my Chromobotia macracanthus,Apteronotus leptorhynchus, and Toxotes jaculatrix rclxms.gif


Added on November 29, 2010, 11:19 am>>>Joshua>>> when exodon are available? smile.gif


Added on November 29, 2010, 11:29 amAbout the Aquafair....nothing interested me...except the Betta gladiator! cool fish... i thought i will see some rare fish there.im wrong...but if you're arowana,discuss,gold fish and betta lovers then ok la smile.gif


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QUOTE(konbawa @ Nov 29 2010, 12:44 AM)
i wana ask tat these alligator gars are slim and bit weird proportion of body. they have very big eye, big head, big nose and very slim body. at 1st i tot is normal at young age, but after i see more pics of alli gars has doubted me. and compared to ivanchua gar, these does diff in proportion... izi normal?


Added on November 29, 2010, 12:45 amand, can alligator gar put together wit paroon shark? like around the same size.
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rm88?? where where!! im trying to sell my fish.. but dunno anyone wanna buy anot.. especially my silver aro.. he's not very healthy or in "perfect" condition
sell it to LFS near you la bro...then buy other cool fish smile.gif

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[quote=khairulanuar,Nov 29 2010, 11:18 AM]
nice fish..i have 2 of them...mix them with my Chromobotia macracanthus,Apteronotus leptorhynchus, and Toxotes jaculatrix rclxms.gif


Ahhh.... finally someone finally deigned to reply to my msg.So,bro how big is your fishes?
i read somewhere ,that it is almost similar to P. armatulus.Can you tell them apart when they're just mere hatchling?The term Rapheal catfish,which species does it refer to ...armatulus or costatus?.costatus is the rarer one,though
i finally decided to get one....i'm fine with the slow growth that all...hehe

anyway,you did mention archer fish...how's that sniper? i heard it's from mangrove habitat...
Can you even put it along with other freshwater tankmate?

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QUOTE(Rainman84 @ Nov 29 2010, 12:25 PM)
nice fish..i have 2 of them...mix them with my Chromobotia macracanthus,Apteronotus leptorhynchus, and Toxotes jaculatrix  rclxms.gif
Ahhh.... finally someone finally deigned to reply to my msg.So,bro how big is your fishes?
i read somewhere ,that it is almost similar to P. armatulus.Can you tell them apart when they're just mere hatchling?The term Rapheal catfish,which species does it refer to ...armatulus or costatus?.costatus is the rarer one,though
i finally decided to get one....i'm fine with the slow growth that all...hehe

anyway,you did mention archer fish...how's that sniper? i heard it's from mangrove habitat...
Can you even put it along with other freshwater tankmate?
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my fish still small...last time got size about7-8".but it already R.I.P cry.gif so decided to get them back..

about the term Raphael catfish is referring to armatulus or costatus? ermmm actually im not expert in this sweat.gif maybe other member's can explain more on this icon_question.gif

archer fish.is rarely i can see them sniping smile.gif

yup i put them with my other freshwater tankmates! icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(khairulanuar @ Nov 29 2010, 01:04 PM)
my fish still small...last time got size about7-8".but it already R.I.P  cry.gif so decided to get them back..

about the term Raphael catfish is referring to armatulus or costatus? ermmm actually im not expert in this  sweat.gif maybe other member's can explain more on this  icon_question.gif

archer fish.is rarely i can see them sniping  smile.gif

yup i put them with my other freshwater tankmates!  icon_rolleyes.gif
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icic....your adult catfish probably passed away because of old age.
so what fish next? brows.gif
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icic....your adult catfish probably passed away because of old age.
so what fish next? brows.gif
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im waiting for Exodon (Bucktooth tetra) to available again...hehehe

currently i have:
redtail barracuda,
redtail payara,
polypterus,
Jardini,
Distichodus,
Leporinus fasciatus,
Indo Tiger,
Nothern Thai tiger,
black ghost knife,
brown ghost knife,
clown loach,
raphael catfish,
and archer fish.

i thinks that enough for now...
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smile.gif

im waiting for Exodon (Bucktooth tetra) to available again...hehehe

currently i have:
redtail barracuda,
redtail payara,
polypterus,
Jardini,
Distichodus,
Leporinus fasciatus,
Indo Tiger,
Nothern Thai tiger,
black ghost knife,
brown ghost knife,
clown loach,
raphael catfish,
and archer fish.

i thinks that enough for now...
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poisoning eh?

i like his datnoids and polypterus most
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poisoning eh?

i like his datnoids and polypterus most
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yeah..i like datnoids too... i heard that they only display their best coloration only in well-filtered tank. nod.gif
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haiz, except tat datnoids are expensive... btw, can they live wit gold fish?
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datnoids arent vry expensive depends on the type...

I read they're colours fading is not caused by any physical element.. its just they're feelings..
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QUOTE(khairulanuar @ Nov 29 2010, 02:37 PM)
smile.gif

im waiting for Exodon (Bucktooth tetra) to available again...hehehe

currently i have:
redtail barracuda,
redtail payara,
polypterus,
Jardini,
Distichodus,
Leporinus fasciatus,
Indo Tiger,
Nothern Thai tiger,
black ghost knife,
brown ghost knife,
clown loach,
raphael catfish,
and archer fish.

i thinks that enough for now...
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bro khairul..
exodon paradoxus gotto wait till further notice...
totally cannot get this fish now.. also the mortality rate of this fish upon arrival were pretty high cry.gif
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QUOTE(konbawa @ Nov 29 2010, 09:41 PM)
haiz, except tat datnoids are expensive... btw, can they live wit gold fish?
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datnoids are not expensive bro... normal NTT aka Northern Thai Tigers, IT (Indonesian Tigers) are pretty much affordable.. around RM35-55 for the size of 3inch+/-.
even AT (American Tigers), some called it silver tigers were just slightly more expensive than the 2 mention above.. less than RM200...
The second most expensive will be NGT (New Guinea Tiger) and the most expensive ones were the true ST (Siamese Tiger).

btw.. they go along well with goldfish... no problem.. smile.gif


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MY SIAM TIGER ...

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Great fish!
How much do u got them?
They hardly come by these days... all being sent out to Japan and Taiwan.. cry.gif

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QUOTE(joshualim86 @ Nov 30 2010, 01:16 AM)
datnoids are not expensive bro... normal NTT aka Northern Thai Tigers, IT (Indonesian Tigers) are pretty much affordable.. around RM35-55 for the size of 3inch+/-.
even AT (American Tigers), some called it silver tigers were just slightly more expensive than the 2 mention above.. less than RM200...
The second most expensive will be NGT (New Guinea Tiger) and the most expensive ones were the true ST (Siamese Tiger).

btw.. they go along well with goldfish... no problem.. smile.gif


Added on November 30, 2010, 1:21 am

Great fish!
How much do u got them?
They hardly come by these days... all being sent out to Japan and Taiwan.. cry.gif
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they are my collection ..size around 8 inches ...
I have 2 NGT (New Guinea Tiger) too .. will take some photo if time permit ..
I have some lobang for exotic pleco too .. l46 , blue eye .. etc
But Rays is my main tropical fish ..

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QUOTE(tony05 @ Nov 30 2010, 01:27 AM)
they are my collection ..size around 8 inches ...
I have 2 NGT (New Guinea Tiger) too .. will take some photo if time permit ..
I have some lobang for exotic pleco too .. l46 , blue eye .. etc
But Rays is my main tropical fish ..

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Now thats what i called the real exotic fish keepers! just fantastic looking ray! rclxms.gif
i wish we have more exotic fish keepers just like u here in boleh-land!!! hahaha..

anyway keep this thread posted bro..
do show us both your NGTs and L46..
you have Blue Eye Suttoni as well? thats x2 superb collection! shocking.gif

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i am looking for freshwater eel like tyre track eel, peacock eel and half banded eel. any got sell pls inform me =D


Added on November 30, 2010, 2:47 ambtw, any recommended lfs tat are selling exotic and bizarre freshwater fish? can send the de address, wud like to visit them. =D


Added on November 30, 2010, 2:58 ami am looking for glass catfish as well.

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May I ask a question here how are the stock like for below 6 " Arapaima beside their retail pricing in the market ?? And to wholesaler or store owner how much do you pay for them recently if you did stock them .
THANKS

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QUOTE(Rainman84 @ Nov 29 2010, 09:14 PM)
yeah..i like datnoids too... i heard that they only display their best coloration only in well-filtered tank. nod.gif
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dont get shock bro...other forumer got more rare and nice fish smile.gif

ermmm...still dont know the good answer for why the datnoids always changing the color of the body..

malaysia dont have amerika datnoid @ silver Datnoid...maybe you can ask JOSHUA to bring them in...also The NGT..really hard to have it now smile.gif


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bro khairul..
exodon paradoxus gotto wait till further notice...
totally cannot get this fish now.. also the mortality rate of this fish upon arrival were pretty high cry.gif
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datnoids are not expensive bro... normal NTT aka Northern Thai Tigers, IT (Indonesian Tigers) are pretty much affordable.. around RM35-55 for the size of 3inch+/-.
even AT (American Tigers), some called it silver tigers were just slightly more expensive than the 2 mention above.. less than RM200...
The second most expensive will be NGT (New Guinea Tiger) and the most expensive ones were the true ST (Siamese Tiger).

btw.. they go along well with goldfish... no problem.. smile.gif


Added on November 30, 2010, 1:21 am

Great fish!
How much do u got them?
They hardly come by these days... all being sent out to Japan and Taiwan.. cry.gif
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nice fish


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MY SIAM TIGER ...

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Ive seen silver datnoids in alive aquarium bfore... last year tho...

man.. i really dunno wat to do wif my silver aro... I scared cant sell out because it's isn't vry beautiful specimen...
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[quote=joshualim86,Nov 30 2010, 01:51 AM]Now thats what i called the real exotic fish keepers! just fantastic looking ray! rclxms.gif
i wish we have more exotic fish keepers just like u here in boleh-land!!! hahaha..

anyway keep this thread posted bro..
do show us both your NGTs and L46..
you have Blue Eye Suttoni as well? thats x2 superb collection! shocking.gif
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Blue Eye Suttoni , LDA105 , L273 , L46 and lots more ..but I don't dare to buy unless there are serious buyer ..
FYI , I breed / trade all kind of Rays tongue.gif

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Cute little fello ..where u got this ? I looking for it for quite some time d .. biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(BenSow @ Nov 30 2010, 09:19 AM)
Ive seen silver datnoids in alive aquarium bfore... last year tho...

man.. i really dunno wat to do wif my silver aro... I scared cant sell out because it's isn't vry beautiful specimen...
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yaka? maybe that time i dont interested in Tiger wink.gif


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Cute little fello ..where u got this ? I looking for it for quite some time d .. biggrin.gif
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get it from my friend...at the time i take the fish didnt see the BAR clearly...look like stress..that's why he giving me the fish..after i put it in my tank suddenly it show the beautiful of DATNOID smile.gif

want it? i thinks my friends still have 5pcs of them...if you want i can ask him...

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ok anyone noe where i can get glass pieces or acrylic sheets? gona have a pet reptile or amphibian or scorpion... building enclousure i think cheaper than buying same size aquarium since no nid as thick...
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QUOTE(konbawa @ Nov 30 2010, 02:44 AM)
i am looking for freshwater eel like tyre track eel, peacock eel and half banded eel. any got sell pls inform me =D


Added on November 30, 2010, 2:47 ambtw, any recommended lfs tat are selling exotic and bizarre freshwater fish? can send the de address, wud like to visit them. =D


Added on November 30, 2010, 2:58 ami am looking for glass catfish as well.
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juz bought a 15-17cm alligator gar for rm35 hopefully can live long. btw, any wana buy 3feet long alligator gar?
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QUOTE(BenSow @ Nov 30 2010, 01:04 PM)
ok anyone noe where i can get glass pieces or acrylic sheets? gona have a pet reptile or amphibian or scorpion... building enclousure i think cheaper than buying same size aquarium since no nid as thick...
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I've got a friend who was supposed to source some from me as I was toying with the idea of using them as part of a pond build. I'll PM you in a couple days if/when I hear from him.


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juz bought a 15-17cm alligator gar for rm35 hopefully can live long. btw, any wana buy 3feet long alligator gar?
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Why buy one while trying to get rid of another at the same time?

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PIMPIN, thanks

@konbawa... lemme guess.. alligator spatula RM35 from alive aquairum pudu?
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QUOTE(PIMPIN @ Nov 30 2010, 10:02 PM)
I've got a friend who was supposed to source some from me as I was toying with the idea of using them as part of a pond build. I'll PM you in a couple days if/when I hear from him.


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Why buy one while trying to get rid of another at the same time?
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the 3 feet one is not mine juz some friend's friend selling and i couldnt afford tat.

QUOTE(BenSow @ Nov 30 2010, 10:16 PM)
PIMPIN, thanks

@konbawa... lemme guess.. alligator spatula RM35 from alive aquairum pudu?
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i bought in seremban. btw, i do wish to noe wic lfs tat sell lots exotic and bizzare fish, maps?
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ohh.. because the size and the price match the description of alive aquarium in jalan pasar
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ohh.. because the size and the price match the description of alive aquarium in jalan pasar
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Hahah bro, you know what every shop is selling and even the price somemore. Walking fish portal
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only pudu haha
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only pudu haha
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so we know who to ask to find out what's the latest fish stock in Alive. brows.gif
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latest? no... i havnt been there since school holidays started.. im confined... sad.gif
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latest? no... i havnt been there since school holidays started.. im confined... sad.gif
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Yo dude, where in Jalan Pasar? Can guide me?
Feel like want to go there and buy my 3rd Tank.
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When does school holidays end? PMR went OK or not?
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When does school holidays end? PMR went OK or not?
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when the holiday ends...after school...he'll probably be glued to one of the aquariums in Alive lfs. doh.gif
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ok here is a map:
http://maps.google.com.my/maps?f=q&source=...6,0.005284&z=18

ALIVE AQUARIUM- beside liching aquarium

opposite liching aquarium will be many pasar malam type fish shops.... Jalan pasar baru...
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QUOTE(Rainman84 @ Dec 1 2010, 01:16 AM)
when the holiday ends...after school...he'll probably be glued to one of the aquariums in Alive lfs. doh.gif
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QUOTE(BenSow @ Dec 1 2010, 02:18 AM)
ok here is a map:
http://maps.google.com.my/maps?f=q&source=...6,0.005284&z=18

ALIVE AQUARIUM- beside liching aquarium

opposite liching aquarium will be many pasar malam type fish shops.... Jalan pasar baru...
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Liching is the one double story one right? With a basement?

Opposite them those guys should be shut down; selling fishes in a baldi.
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ok here is a map:
http://maps.google.com.my/maps?f=q&source=...6,0.005284&z=18

ALIVE AQUARIUM- beside liching aquarium

opposite liching aquarium will be many pasar malam type fish shops.... Jalan pasar baru...
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aiks, i mistake, i think i need the steps to reach there by train or bus...i am not driving ><
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QUOTE(BenSow @ Dec 1 2010, 02:18 AM)
ok here is a map:
http://maps.google.com.my/maps?f=q&source=...6,0.005284&z=18

ALIVE AQUARIUM- beside liching aquarium

opposite liching aquarium will be many pasar malam type fish shops.... Jalan pasar baru...
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you're miss the most important thing,though.
The operating hour of the Alive lfs. It's going to be weird to find out that the shop you intend to go to are closed (rollershutter in front of your eye). doh.gif

anyway,wouldn't it be better if on the elected day,you trip should coinciding with the FLEA fish market hours.True,you might not find quality stuff like in established but who knowssss.....they might have CONTRABAND STUFF hidden(it's a joy of having a good surprise,like opening a box of chocolate,not knowing the content).

maybe they have Fish with a lot of teeth to show!!! rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(Rainman84 @ Dec 1 2010, 03:25 AM)
you're miss the most important thing,though.
The operating hour of the Alive lfs. It's going to be weird to find out that the shop you intend to go to are closed (rollershutter in front of your eye). doh.gif

anyway,wouldn't it be better if on  the elected day,you trip should coinciding with the FLEA fish market hours.True,you might not find quality stuff like in established but who knowssss.....they might have CONTRABAND STUFF hidden(it's a joy of having a good surprise,like opening a box of chocolate,not knowing the content).

maybe they have Fish with a lot of teeth to show!!!  rclxms.gif
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last time going there.they still have freshwater dorados... thumbup.gif


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QUOTE(khairulanuar @ Dec 1 2010, 09:20 AM)
last time going there.they still have freshwater dorados... thumbup.gif
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the shop- only close in monday


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i bought in seremban. btw, i do wish to noe wic lfs tat sell lots exotic and bizzare fish, maps?
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there is some lfs i know selling some interesting fish...Alive Aquarium at JLN PASAR. Irene Aquarium SEKSYEN 16 PJ. Xian Leng SEKSYEN 2, SHAH ALAM. one shop at SELAYANG..but forget the name.

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QUOTE(khairulanuar @ Dec 1 2010, 09:20 AM)
last time going there.they still have freshwater dorados... thumbup.gif


Added on December 1, 2010, 9:22 am

the shop- only close in monday


Added on December 1, 2010, 9:29 am

there is some lfs i know selling some interesting fish...Alive Aquarium at JLN PASAR. Irene Aquarium SEKSYEN 16 PJ. Xian Leng SEKSYEN 2, SHAH ALAM. one shop at SELAYANG..but forget the name.
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How about Aquatic International sdn bhd?what type of fish do they stocked?anyone been there?
AI fishes rival that of xian leng in shah alam,that's what i heard.but i am not sure they have exotic fishes
btw,i have heard that you need to pay to enter xian leng shah alam.is that true?
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QUOTE(Rainman84 @ Dec 1 2010, 10:00 AM)
How about Aquatic International sdn bhd?what type of fish do they stocked?anyone been there?
AI fishes rival that of xian leng in shah alam,that's what i heard.but i am not sure they have exotic fishes
btw,i have heard that you need to pay  to enter xian leng shah alam.is that true?
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never been to AI....my friends said there have many type of cichilds..but have some cool fish also..like tiger fish(Datnoids)...

you dont have pay anything to enter the xian leng bro...

1 more LFS...SLS at ARA DAMANSARA

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QUOTE(khairulanuar @ Dec 1 2010, 10:04 AM)
never been to AI....my friends said there have many type of cichilds..but have some cool fish also..like tiger fish(Datnoids)...

you dont have pay anything to enter the xian leng bro...

1 more LFS...SLS at ARA DAMANSARA
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this is the SLS new website -- www.sls2u.com


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this is the SLS new website -- www.sls2u.com
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if anyone is interested in paying AI a visit, here's the coordinate
101° 32.913'E 3° 8.668'N


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QUOTE(Rainman84 @ Dec 1 2010, 10:14 AM)
this is the SLS new website -- www.sls2u.com


Added on December 1, 2010, 10:18 am
if anyone is interested in paying AI a visit, here's the coordinate
101° 32.913'E 3° 8.668'N
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wahahaha...giving the coordinate also...AI is ODW to Subang airport.

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this is the SLS new website -- www.sls2u.com


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if anyone is interested in paying AI a visit, here's the coordinate
101° 32.913'E 3° 8.668'N
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coordinate is good! cz i am guided by gps =P better to give name of the store and its coordinate. tx
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QUOTE(konbawa @ Dec 1 2010, 11:38 AM)
coordinate is good! cz i am guided by gps =P better to give name of the store and its coordinate. tx
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all the shop i give you can find it via google maps smile.gif
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ya alive close on mondays.. happen to me twice before LOL.. went there and it was shut..


Added on December 1, 2010, 2:38 pmhaizzz.. i heard after SLS new management the store isn't very favourable...


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aiks, i mistake, i think i need the steps to reach there by train or bus...i am not driving ><
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train or bus? haha I always use train to go there... my school connected to Plaza Rakyat LRT station.. so just take lrt to pudu, get of and 2minutes walk and im there...

Livestocks I prefer Alive Aquarium alot.. Their for sale tank oso decorated and they're labels are printed clearly.. However I see some fish missing labels... The only fiberglass tanks tehre are the ones containing koi for sale...

Liching I will never buy silver arowanas from there blink.gif I once saw them selling alot of 4 inch ones with their gill plates some how "missing".. And Liching has quite a stench.. A friend told me the owners very ego(LC) too... But I love the red aros in their pond at the back... simply amazing rclxms.gif

However I dun really disagree closing the store opposite.. They should stop selling fish in bags hung over ppl's head or in pails... I saw them selling plecos(prefers cold water) in pails under DIRECT SUNLIGHT... kesian la them sad.gif Summore they sell "sets" of fish.. they dump few fishes in one bag and then sell them... gila one... I once even saw they had a silver arowana with a crooked spine in the bag.... There are some good stores though.. There is one stall specialise selling "benih ikan"... I like that store because there are many types of feeder fish but oso kept under bad condition.... I bought few before and managed to keep them alive until feeding... including one channa striata and it still survived....

And one of the worse things abt the pasar malam-like stalls is that they're turtles, tortoises, hermit crabs and crayfish are kept in VERY BAD condition.. Crayfish are not even kept fully submerged!! and they always give wrong info as they want to sell off the fish...

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ya alive close on mondays.. happen to me twice before LOL.. went there and it was shut..


Added on December 1, 2010, 2:38 pmhaizzz.. i heard after SLS new management the store isn't very favourable...


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train or bus? haha I always use train to go there... my school connected to Plaza Rakyat LRT station.. so just take lrt to pudu, get of and 2minutes walk and im there...

Livestocks I prefer Alive Aquarium alot.. Their for sale tank oso decorated and they're labels are printed clearly.. However I see some fish missing labels... The only fiberglass tanks tehre are the ones containing koi for sale...

Liching I will never buy silver arowanas from there  blink.gif  I once saw them selling alot of 4 inch ones with their gill plates some how "missing".. And Liching has quite a stench.. A friend told me the owners very ego(LC) too... But I love the red aros in their pond at the back... simply amazing  rclxms.gif

However I dun really disagree closing the store opposite.. They should stop selling fish in bags hung over ppl's head or in pails... I saw them selling plecos(prefers cold water) in pails under DIRECT SUNLIGHT... kesian la them sad.gif Summore they sell "sets" of fish.. they dump few fishes in one bag and then sell them... gila one... I once even saw they had a silver arowana with a crooked spine in the bag.... There are some good stores though.. There is one stall specialise selling "benih ikan"... I like that store because there are many types of feeder fish but oso kept under bad condition.... I bought few before and managed to keep them alive until feeding... including one channa striata and it still survived....

And one of the worse things abt the pasar malam-like stalls is that they're turtles, tortoises, hermit crabs and crayfish are kept in VERY BAD condition.. Crayfish are not even kept fully submerged!! and they always give wrong info as they want to sell off the fish...
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Those are the shops I'm referring to. Those pasar malam roadside shops where the fish are subjected not only to the heat but also traffic fumes, etc. I wish there was something that could be done to stop this but they'd just move on and sell somewhere else.
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QUOTE(PIMPIN @ Dec 1 2010, 07:11 PM)
Those are the shops I'm referring to. Those pasar malam roadside shops where the fish are subjected not only to the heat but also traffic fumes, etc. I wish there was something that could be done to stop this but they'd just move on and sell somewhere else.
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Who want to be "Pejuang kebebasan binatang "?Pimpin...there's only one path.....bro engkau kena la sapu semua
lepas tu kita korang share binatang
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Who want to be "Pejuang kebebasan binatang "?Pimpin...there's only one path.....bro engkau kena la sapu semua
lepas tu kita korang share binatang
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QUOTE(PIMPIN @ Dec 1 2010, 07:11 PM)
Those are the shops I'm referring to. Those pasar malam roadside shops where the fish are subjected not only to the heat but also traffic fumes, etc. I wish there was something that could be done to stop this but they'd just move on and sell somewhere else.
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not only that.. they are very rude...
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not only that.. they are very rude...
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Who want to be "Pejuang kebebasan binatang "?Pimpin...there's only one path.....bro engkau kena la sapu semua
lepas tu kita korang share binatang
hahahaha rclxms.gif


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Anyway,i'm jesting.no harm done,eh?
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^ Engalis puhleez?



Pimpin, did you end up getting the two pimas from Jason?!?
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Pimpin, did you end up getting the two pimas from Jason?!?
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pimpin, abt ur friend who supplies glass sheets, where is his location?
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pimpin, abt ur friend who supplies glass sheets, where is his location?
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I'm looking at acrylic sheets as glass would be rather expensive, not to mention heavy and does not have the flexibility of acrylic. I'm not even sure if I'll be using it but will find out the prices soon; other priorities much more urgent came up.

What size and thickness were you after?
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ill get back to u later because they're 5 sheets in total ill have to count first smile.gif
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ben, do u noe where got sell cheap but quality table top aquarium?

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table top meaning? o.o i tot any kind of aquarium can put on table...
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table top meaning? o.o i tot any kind of aquarium can put on table...
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not too ex meaning...?

hmmm the cheapest way would be to build ur own maybe... 1ft cube u can go to glass shop ask them make... around rm20 i think.. depend on the glass shop.. acrylic 1ft ones not very nice... unless u dont mind the rim..


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Hi guys, cool thread rclxms.gif

Just wondering if u all noe whr 2 get a tsn x rtc hybrid around kl? Cant seem to find at pasar road. sad.gif
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ben, do u noe where got sell cheap but quality table top aquarium?
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not too ex meaning...?

hmmm the cheapest way would be to build ur own maybe... 1ft cube u can go to glass shop ask them make... around rm20 i think.. depend on the glass shop.. acrylic 1ft ones not very nice... unless u dont mind the rim..


Added on December 5, 2010, 4:34 pmthis thread has gone cold...
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This thread hasn't gone cold. According to ggMing, my Arapaima has managed to swallow an arowana already LOL. Ask him to post some pictures. My fishes still with him since I've been slack in building new pond but I've actually expanded two of my houses for future 'monster ponds' including an existing 25'x40'x'10' which needs to be drained and rebuilt in future but that won't be for a year at least since I anticipate the filtration system, pumps, etc to cost the same as my swimming pool setup. Only upside is the labor cost but equipment cost still substantial I guess.

Anyways, I've posted some of the ponds on MFK. Don't know if linking to other forums is allowed but here goes
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=374121



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is this primitive fish ? last time i caught it when fishing ..
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yes it is.its a clown knife fish and a very very beautiful specimen from the looks of it its atleast 26" ?
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Where u go fishing man
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Are you looking for something like this?
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Added on December 8, 2010, 1:36 am

This thread hasn't gone cold. According to ggMing, my Arapaima has managed to swallow an arowana already LOL. Ask him to post some pictures. My fishes still with him since I've been slack in building new pond but I've actually expanded two of my houses for future 'monster ponds' including an existing 25'x40'x'10' which needs to be drained and rebuilt in future but that won't be for a year at least since I anticipate the filtration system, pumps, etc to cost the same as my swimming pool setup. Only upside is the labor cost but equipment cost still substantial I guess.

Anyways, I've posted some of the ponds on MFK. Don't know if linking to other forums is allowed but here goes
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=374121
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wow, i am looking for those small one set tank tat can put on table but that look nice though.
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Where u go fishing man
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this is in kampar wor ... this fish very strong ah .. but hard to get .. only get once .. last time got 1 escaped. ..
but not nice to eat la ..haha


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yes it is.its a clown knife fish and a very very beautiful specimen from the looks of it its atleast 26" ?
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very big but i dint measure it .. very strong fish .. caught ad no oxygen also wont die for few hours


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better not to deepfried that fish..boney as hell..
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better not to deepfried that fish..boney as hell..
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btw fishing kena this big fish really nice .. alot of ppl come and see and took pic.haha
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nice pima pimpin.how much was the damage to the walllet and wht setup you planning on raising it in while its small ?
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nice pima pimpin.how much was the damage to the walllet and wht setup you planning on raising it in while its small ?
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Contact ggMing for prices. The fishes are at his shop for the meantime and once they've grown a few more inches then I'll pick-up.
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I guess its their season now !! I think this year is a bumper year for them (Arapaima) as I see them @ lelong price on my wholesaler list !!




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It this primitive fish too .. Here are some exotic pleco brows.gif
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GOD DAMN THE SUTTONI!!!!! drooling!!!!


Added on December 12, 2010, 1:03 pmbuaya ku..... soon to be mine... 3 kaki babe!!!

and yah, i dont care if u got red aro, gold helmet xback or others.... but do you have an australian aro with pink spots? coz i do!!

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and i dont care if you have seen or kept walking fish before... but i have the rarest of all, the harlequin/gold variation
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f****ng poisoning.

but bro, fyi, according to Section 12 of Act 686 under the Laws of Malaysia, you should care wink.gif
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the SUTTONI so beautiful wei o.o

this thread is freaking poisoning.. tongue.gif

I saw 6 arapaimas with the biggest at around 3+ meters i think... but poor thing was in a big pond... but water level cant even cover its whole body...

saw at yong peng express bus stop at johor... have quite some monster fish there.. pacus, 3ft long RTC... etc
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ah ... i saw the 2 pimas at ggming's shop.

i super minat his albino mexican walking fish .

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also known as axolotl right?
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yerp ....
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f****ng poisoning.

but bro, fyi, according to Section 12 of Act 686 under the Laws of Malaysia, you should care  wink.gif
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i got invoice for supplier, if kena, its not my prob, supplier should care... im just seling what they can supply/// hehehh bu tthanks bro for the heads up
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the SUTTONI so beautiful wei o.o

this thread is freaking poisoning.. tongue.gif

I saw 6 arapaimas with the biggest at around 3+ meters i think... but poor thing was in a big pond... but water level cant even cover its whole body...

saw at yong peng express bus stop at johor... have quite some monster fish there.. pacus, 3ft long RTC... etc
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Bro, the poor thing was in a big pond but for some reason water level cant even cover its whole body? Then how exactly is it a big pond in the first place LOL

Anyways, did you get any pics? Like whose pond is it and who maintains/feeds/etc?

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ah ... i saw the 2 pimas at ggming's shop.

i super minat his albino mexican walking fish .
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I saw one Mamak fishing around for Arapaimas marked 'Sold' at ggMing's shop tongue.gif

Nice to meet you; probably be seeing more of you in future LOL

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i got invoice for supplier, if kena, its not my prob, supplier should care... im just seling what they can supply/// hehehh bu tthanks bro for the heads up
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Actually you only need to have a photocopy of the import permit and basically keep it as record. That's all the law requires of you. The guy who imported it or any other animal listed in CITES appendices is the one responsible for obtaining relevant permits and providing copies to all subsequent buyers.

The real danger is Act 76 of the Wildlife Protection Act 1972; Act 686 covers mostly international trade of CITES listed animals. Since yours is not listed under Act 76 you really have nothing to worry about because although its unlikely that its bred locally; Act 686 applies to the actual fish that is imported. If someone managed to breed them and yours is the offspring then technically it doesn't fall under either of the Act.

Anyways, the chances of you getting into trouble for it is less than nil.
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The real danger is Act 76 of the Wildlife Protection Act 1972; Act 686 covers mostly international trade of CITES listed animals. Since yours is not listed under Act 76 you really have nothing to worry about because although its unlikely that its bred locally; Act 686 applies to the actual fish that is imported. If someone managed to breed them and yours is the offspring then technically it doesn't fall under either of the Act.

Anyways, the chances of you getting into trouble for it is less than nil.
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now that's a discussion.

according to section 14 of act 686, technically, locally, captive bred offspring of any scheduled animals are still considered illegal unless the breeding efforts are registered with the management authority (in the case of amphibians, the the Department of Wildlife. last time i checked, there are no records of axolotl breeder at Perhilitan), in which needed animals to come with CITES documents and import permit for any consideration to taken. all records of stocks and transactions needed to be strictly maintained, e.g., if sold to someone, that someone must be able to apply for a keeping permit from the respective authority based on the records/receipts/documents provided by the seller.

earlier this year, keepers of undocumented animals that were scheduled under Act 686 that hasn't already been scheduled in Act 76 were given a grace period, in which many of us had taken the opportunity to declare each and every specimens that falls under Act 686, and applied for a special permission. the special permission also applies for those animals that originally came with CITES permit but in which owners had neglected to apply for a permit before.

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some of the keepers in Klang Valley had already got their special permission, but the application seems pending for keepers from other areas and for those with a big collection.

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now that's a discussion.

according to section 14 of act 686, technically, captive bred offspring of any scheduled animals are still considered illegal unless the breeding efforts are registered with the management authority (in the case of amphibians, the Department of Wildlife. last time i checked, there are no records of axolotl breeder at Perhilitan), in which needed animals to come with CITES documents and import permit for any consideration to taken. all records of stocks and transactions needed to be strictly maintained, e.g., if sold to someone, that someone must be able to apply for a keeping permit from the respective authority based on the records/receipts/documents provided by the seller.

earlier this year, keepers of undocumented animals that were scheduled under Act 686 that hasn't already been scheduled in Act 76 were given a grace period, in which many of us had taken the opportunity to declare each and every specimens that falls under Act 686, and applied for a special permission. the special permission also applies for those animals that originally came with CITES permit but in which owners had neglected to apply for a permit before.

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Well if its in Appendix 1 of CITES meaning you need special import permit right? Ok that's what I understand so far. Let's say someone imported some and they mated and I end up with one of the offspring. Technically, it's not imported nor is it really breeding. It's just animals mating. Does everyone with a CITES pet inform authorities each time their pets mate?

Plus, what if that pet is not listed under Act 76 in Jadual 1 nor Jadual 2? Should the issue of applying for permits to possess, etc even arise as its neither a Binatang-Binatang Yang Diperlindungi Sepenuhnya nor is it a Binatang-Binatang Yang Diperlindungi?.

And lastly, what if its again not listed in Third Schedule of Act 686? From what I understand, this grace period you mentioned covers those animals on that list so if a pet isn't listed then how is it relevant?

Thanks in advance.
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i'll try to provide answers based on my understanding and experiences. if there are flaws/things that needed to be pointed out by others, i sincerely welcome them to further enhance our understanding in this matter. i would also like to point out that i only have experiences dealing with the Wildlife Department and that i know nuts about the operations of Fisheries Department. (INTESA is governed by several authorities under the Ministry of Natural Resources, each with their own jurisdictions).

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Well if its in Appendix 1 of CITES meaning you need special import permit right? Ok that's what I understand so far. Let's say someone imported some and they mated and I end up with one of the offspring. Technically, it's not imported nor is it really breeding. It's just animals mating. Does everyone with a CITES pet inform authorities each time their pets mate?
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yes. that's what we had all been doing so far. all scheduled animals bred in captivity needed to be reported immediately. provided there are evidences to support the claim - eggshells, the offspring itself, usually the Wildlife Department are not that stringent unless they have reasonable doubts to suspect that the applicant is not sincere etc (e.g. trying to unlawfully produce for commercial purposes, etc)

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Plus, what if that pet is not listed under Act 76 in Jadual 1 nor Jadual 2? Should the issue of applying for permits to  possess, etc even arise as its neither a Binatang-Binatang Yang Diperlindungi Sepenuhnya nor is it a Binatang-Binatang Yang Diperlindungi?.
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yes, even though the animals are not listed under Act 76, permits are needed if they are listed under CITES.

example: as we know it, Act 76 is so outdated that not a single tortoise is included, but still, we have got to apply for a permit to keep these animals.

scheduled animals that are imported through proper channels come with CITES record etc. the record would be used to apply for a permit from the Department of Wildlife (in which they will match the details provided by the applicants with the importation, trading, etc records they have before issuing the permit).

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And lastly, what if its again not listed in Third Schedule of Act 686? From what I understand, this grace period you mentioned covers those animals on that list so if a pet isn't listed then how is it relevant?

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the grace period only covered animals are listed under act 686 but not pre-existing acts/ordinance,

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if those animals are listed under previous acts/ordinance but not Act 686, it is then subjected to existing laws.

if those animals are listed under previous acts/ordinance and Act 686, the grace period did not cover them as well because they are subjected to existing law.

but, if the animals are not listed under any Acts, then you should have no worries though. smile.gif

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as for the provisions of captive bred animals stated by CITES - well, it ain't captive bred unless there are proper records showing that it is captive bred. there is one interesting case that happen in the US a few days ago involving the genus Brachypelma. prior to this, everybody had been saying that no authorities give a damn about some insignificant arachnids and pointed out the fact their animals are CB animals obtained from reputable breeders, but since the apprehension of one very reputable breeder involving captive bred animals, most clients of the said offender had been denying all ties with him and even condemned him for what he's doing doh.gif

it is sad to see good, passionate men being punished for doing the things they love the most. i'm not being anal or anything, but i think it is better to not take insignificant things for granted. therefore, if there are animals that needed to pointed out in case the owner hasn't realized its status, i will point it out but it is up to the owner to do whatever he sees fit. smile.gif


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QUOTE(PIMPIN @ Dec 13 2010, 04:22 AM)
Bro, the poor thing was in a big pond but for some reason water level cant even cover its whole body? Then how exactly is it a big pond in the first place LOL

Anyways, did you get any pics? Like whose pond is it and who maintains/feeds/etc?
I saw one Mamak fishing around for Arapaimas marked 'Sold' at ggMing's shop  tongue.gif

Nice to meet you; probably be seeing more of you in future LOL
Actually you only need to have a photocopy of the import permit and basically keep it as record. That's all the law requires of you. The guy who imported it or any other animal listed in CITES appendices is the one responsible for obtaining relevant permits and providing copies to all subsequent buyers.

The real danger is Act 76 of the Wildlife Protection Act 1972; Act 686 covers mostly international trade of CITES listed animals. Since yours is not listed under Act 76 you really have nothing to worry about because although its unlikely that its bred locally; Act 686 applies to the actual fish that is imported. If someone managed to breed them and yours is the offspring then technically it doesn't fall under either of the Act.

Anyways, the chances of you getting into trouble for it is less than nil.
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I'll see if I have pics.. about the pond... Big area.. but not deep enough... 1st time i ever seen a pima that huge
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Is Siamese tiger consider under this thread? Any bro know whr can I get a rainbow arowana. A baby with stripes. Which haven change it's color. I'm from Penang. Can't find it these few years
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QUOTE(PIMPIN @ Dec 13 2010, 05:22 AM)
Bro, the poor thing was in a big pond but for some reason water level cant even cover its whole body? Then how exactly is it a big pond in the first place LOL

Anyways, did you get any pics? Like whose pond is it and who maintains/feeds/etc?
I saw one Mamak fishing around for Arapaimas marked 'Sold' at ggMing's shop  tongue.gif

Nice to meet you; probably be seeing more of you in future LOL
Actually you only need to have a photocopy of the import permit and basically keep it as record. That's all the law requires of you. The guy who imported it or any other animal listed in CITES appendices is the one responsible for obtaining relevant permits and providing copies to all subsequent buyers.

The real danger is Act 76 of the Wildlife Protection Act 1972; Act 686 covers mostly international trade of CITES listed animals. Since yours is not listed under Act 76 you really have nothing to worry about because although its unlikely that its bred locally; Act 686 applies to the actual fish that is imported. If someone managed to breed them and yours is the offspring then technically it doesn't fall under either of the Act.

Anyways, the chances of you getting into trouble for it is less than nil.
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Is Siamese tiger consider under this thread? Any bro know whr can I get a rainbow arowana. A baby with stripes. Which haven change it's color. I'm from Penang. Can't find it these few years
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considering the wide range of fish discussed here.. go ahead.. khairul shared them before.. I love them too rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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haha bought the axolotls
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Hahaha forced to buy after sticking your hands in the tank? j/k

Tomorrow apparently 4 gars arriving, ones the 3ft rest are mine
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T T . yerpy . I must resist going there till next month .


pokai d . .and saving some money for arapima.
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considering the wide range of fish discussed here.. go ahead.. khairul shared them before.. I love them too  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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i dont like siamese tiger ... they attk other fishes for no reason ...


my tiger might get into the freezer if he attack any other fishes after this
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One think I dont like is they grow ULTRA SLOWLY.. sad.gif
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Just to keep the thread going, these arrived today. Kept in fiber tank, only put in this small tank to take picture as its clearer.

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hurm goreng sedap ni ..


Added on December 15, 2010, 11:35 pmanyone knows where i can find prehistoric dragon goby ? and anyone interested with 1 feet arapaima ?


Added on December 16, 2010, 12:42 amhow do u guys know the food u feed is enough for the fishes ?


I tried putting 100 feeder koi and one night gone. later i tried 200 feeder koi - also gone in one night .

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QUOTE(akidos @ Dec 14 2010, 11:13 PM)
T T . yerpy . I must resist going there till next month .
pokai d . .and saving some money for arapima.
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Hahah so much for next month bro biggrin.gif

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i dont like siamese tiger ... they attk other fishes for no reason ...
my tiger might get into the freezer if he attack any other fishes after this
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In the freezer? doh.gif

Might as well find it a proper home. Got picture or not? I got a friend with a fish room and at least two empty tanks.

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hurm goreng sedap ni ..


Added on December 15, 2010, 11:35 pmanyone knows where i can find prehistoric dragon goby ?  and anyone interested with 1 feet arapaima ?


Added on December 16, 2010, 12:42 amhow do u guys know the food u feed is enough for the fishes ?
I tried putting 100 feeder koi and one night gone. later i tried 200 feeder koi - also gone in one night .
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You got 1 foot long arapaima? Then why buy another one? Tamak la Mamak haha
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QUOTE(akidos @ Dec 15 2010, 07:14 PM)
i dont like siamese tiger ... they attk other fishes for no reason ...
my tiger might get into the freezer if he attack any other fishes after this
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mine not akidos biggrin.gif ..really cool with other fish
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sure or not .. cos i am sure the same guy went and bite ur payara.
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sure or not .. cos i am sure the same guy went and bite ur payara.
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QUOTE(ivanchua @ Nov 28 2010, 08:10 PM)
Check Marble Goby Enterprise. Prices are all listed on their site. Call them for additional discount. The transport is probably gonna cost you a bit. What are you planning to house in the fgt anyway?
If you have the space and commitment, then by all means go get it. Price wise I think it's a steal. I've got like 6 2-3 incher for $25 each at my lfs ~2 weeks back and I just switched to feeding goldfish instead of longkang fish yesterday  biggrin.gif

Anyway, I was told that our gov does not allow alligator gar to be brought into the country and the juve are all somehow smuggled pieces. How far is that true, go figure but I seriously rarely see them on lfs except few years back. I guess they started limiting the quantity coming in since someone caught a pretty big one in pahang.

Here's one of my 4incher feeding

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how big is ur fish tank?
i would like to buy a new fiber tank soon...
how many alligator gar u have?
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wow...ur gar going to switch into new pond ?

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5x2.5x2.5. I forgot how much I've gotten them for.. I think it was around 280 including the ohf box (back in 04 when i got them that is)
6, the rest are floridas, it, ntt, rtcxtsn and rtcs.

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I should be able to hit 2" growth rate per month, i hope.

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They, the pimas and some other oddballs I have are going in here when it's done. 38,500g monster pond  smile.gif

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The bottom drains, which im going to modify to include air diffuser

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Nice.. What are the dimensions of the pond? Are you going for tiles? Light or dark color?

Other than the 6 Gars, how many of the other fishes are going in?

Time to buy snorkel brows.gif
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My snakehead finally took pellets.. woohoo easier to feed now rclxm9.gif


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Nice.. What are the dimensions of the pond? Are you going for tiles? Light or dark color?

Other than the 6 Gars, how many of the other fishes are going in?

Time to buy snorkel  brows.gif
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and an underwater camera rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

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My snakehead finally took pellets.. woohoo easier to feed now rclxm9.gif


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and an underwater camera  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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Would you swim in the pond? I sure as hell would.
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Would you swim in the pond? I sure as hell would.
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wow ..big pond.I am just curious, if you were to place big gar in those pond..the only thing you get to see are its upper portion of its body.i have the opinion that you should brick up and place thicked glass/fibreglass on one side.this way..you can enjoy the sight of gar slither through water.to top that up...you get to increase the depth. smile.gif
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QUOTE(Rainman84 @ Dec 18 2010, 10:02 PM)
wow ..big pond.I am just curious, if you were to place big gar in those pond..the only thing you get to see are its upper portion of its body.i have the opinion that you should brick up and place thicked glass/fibreglass on one side.this way..you can enjoy the sight of gar slither through water.to top that up...you get to increase the depth. smile.gif
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I know what you mean but that's not my pond bro. That belongs to ivanchua.

But what you're suggesting is definitely possible; its a matter of preference I'd say.

But depth is not something that ivanchua's pond lacks. smile.gif
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QUOTE(PIMPIN @ Dec 17 2010, 11:41 PM)
Nice.. What are the dimensions of the pond? Are you going for tiles? Light or dark color?

Other than the 6 Gars, how many of the other fishes are going in?

Time to buy snorkel  brows.gif
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thats quite a big pond, but i dont think its monster fish pond or monster pond.....

too bad i left my camera at pimpins place, took loads of pic of his ponds.... pls bring me back my camera bro!!!!

38k gallons is big... but the dimension a bit salah....

bro pimpin, i mean fishpin, (*&^%$#@!!@#$%^&* sama lu bertubi tubi....
cement pond besar and banyak tapi letak ikan puyu banyak banyak....
can masuk book of records edi you.... taruk ikan puyu dalam pond besar....

tapi dig new big pond and buy only 2 arapaima... fit la thousands on them like your ikan puyu pond....
if for feeder fish then ok la, tapi ikan puyu..... cis!!!!! see those thousands of puyu also jelak....
somemore your puyu cucuk my fingers, bleed.... never say sorry nvm, but you LOL at me some more....

dowan sell u fish edi.... vmad.gif


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http://www.megavideo.com/?v=E0KI70FK - i am not sure if its legal to paste this here but its a documentary on river monster - goliath tiger fish

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QUOTE(Rainman84 @ Dec 18 2010, 10:02 PM)
wow ..big pond.I am just curious, if you were to place big gar in those pond..the only thing you get to see are its upper portion of its body.i have the opinion that you should brick up and place thicked glass/fibreglass on one side.this way..you can enjoy the sight of gar slither through water.to top that up...you get to increase the depth. smile.gif
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agree with you about place a thicked glass on the side...im sure this pond not for koi fish smile.gif

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agree with you about place a thicked glass on the side...im sure this pond not for koi fish smile.gif
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any one know what fish it is?


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Ive seen it before.. someone selling on mudah.my o.o Ill try to dig out... but the seller mentioned its from Amazon,USA << wtf


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any one know what fish it is?
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Could it be agamyxis pectinifrons?
someone selling: http://www.mudah.my/Fossil+like+Cat+Fish+f...ort-7861257.htm


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Wah how come I got 6 primitive fishes also never update me into your list on first page. Hurt my feelings already; ruined my day LOL biggrin.gif
Guess I should tell ggMing not to hire you during school holidays since staff got devoured by one of the fishes. rclxms.gif

QUOTE(ggMing @ Dec 19 2010, 09:02 PM)
thats quite a big pond, but i dont think its monster fish pond or monster pond.....

too bad i left my camera at pimpins place, took loads of pic of his ponds.... pls bring me back my camera bro!!!!

38k gallons is big... but the dimension a bit salah....

bro pimpin, i mean fishpin, (*&^%$#@!!@#$%^&* sama lu bertubi tubi....
cement pond besar and banyak tapi letak ikan puyu banyak banyak....
can masuk book of records edi you.... taruk ikan puyu dalam pond besar....

tapi dig new big pond and buy only 2 arapaima... fit la thousands on them like your ikan puyu pond....
if for feeder fish then ok la, tapi ikan puyu..... cis!!!!! see those thousands of puyu also jelak....
somemore your puyu cucuk my fingers, bleed.... never say sorry nvm, but you LOL at me some more....

dowan sell u fish edi....  vmad.gif
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I understood about 30% of your post; are you drunk LOL biggrin.gif

In all seriousness though, what's this superstition that's associated with puyu? Some people say it "prevents black magic" while some say it causes "discontent". Just curious what people think about this.

Btw, your camera isn't here bro. You left a netbook at my place but no charger but no camera?


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http://www.megavideo.com/?v=E0KI70FK - i am not sure if its legal to paste this here but its a documentary on river monster - goliath tiger fish
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I've got River Monsters on DVD; Seasons 1 & 2. Everything from the Arapaima to the Gars to Sturgeons to the legendary AMF (Annoying Mamak Fish LOL) rclxms.gif

I'll leave it at Punk's shop?

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i have the opinion that you should brick up and place thicked glass/fibreglass on one side


I'm definitely down with taht but I couldn't find any supplier around my area that could source 2" acrylic curve-to-my-pref glass like those you see aquaria. Heck, some don't even know what acrylic is. I'd have call it monster tank if I'd be able to get the glass but I'm pretty much settled on the design so it's going to be a concrete pond for now.

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38k gallons is big... but the dimension a bit salah....


how is it salah? did you just seemingly use your vast wisdom to 'assume' that im building a pond with the dimension that youre imagining? holy crap man.. ive totally lost all my respect for you after reading this. You of all the people. seriously. geeesh !!11! p/s how many successful pond have you constructed again?

On your monster pond definition, to each his own. If 150ton pond is not monster maybe I should dig me a friggin 1 acre lake and call it a pond.

Pimp, I saw your tentative pond design on mfk, if that does realize, I'd want to visit your place someday.
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QUOTE(ivanchua @ Dec 20 2010, 04:49 PM)
I'm definitely down with taht but I couldn't find any supplier around my area that could source 2" acrylic curve-to-my-pref glass like those you see aquaria. Heck, some don't even know what acrylic is. I'd have call it monster tank if I'd be able to get the glass but I'm pretty much settled on the design so it's going to be a concrete pond for now.
how is it salah? did you just seemingly use your vast wisdom to 'assume' that im building a pond with the dimension that youre imagining? holy crap man.. ive totally lost all my respect for you after reading this. You of all the people. seriously. geeesh !!11! p/s how many successful pond have you constructed again?

On your monster pond definition, to each his own. If 150ton pond is not monster maybe I should dig me a friggin 1 acre lake and call it a pond.

Pimp, I saw your tentative pond design on mfk, if that does realize, I'd want to visit your place someday.
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actually i kinda agree with him... maybe its my brain not good enough but i tto think that its not 38k gallons.. no offence bro..
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QUOTE(ivanchua @ Dec 20 2010, 04:49 PM)
I'm definitely down with taht but I couldn't find any supplier around my area that could source 2" acrylic curve-to-my-pref glass like those you see aquaria. Heck, some don't even know what acrylic is. I'd have call it monster tank if I'd be able to get the glass but I'm pretty much settled on the design so it's going to be a concrete pond for now.


Actually faced same problem regarding acrylic. A lot of responses tend to be "use glass is better" which I interpreted as "I don't know any better". I guess there is a general misconception that acrylic is inferior for some reason despite all public aquariums using only acrylic. I came across this company Hydrosight who apparently have done work locally for Aquatica Kota Kinabalu.

Personally I don't know them but came across them for work purposes. I noticed they supply thick, oversize acrylic panels for swimming pools so I'm guessing they do large and small orders. Just thought it could be useful but it seems like you're pretty much set on the present configuration.

What's the finishing like? Tiles? Are you sticking to a natural tone?

QUOTE(BenSow @ Dec 20 2010, 04:54 PM)
actually i kinda agree with him... maybe its my brain not good enough but i tto think that its not 38k gallons.. no offence bro..
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Your brain is probably still fresh from PMR bro. We last sat for exams a few Prime Ministers ago LOL.
But there are online calculators which pretty much anyone could use.
But before disputing, perhaps could ascertain if ivanchua is referring to US or UK gallons - although not massive difference should at least make sure on same page, talking about same thing first.

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chill bro....people are just voicing their opinion

after putting your pond pic ,i did some calculation based on my observation(simple math...i am long away from high school..lol).Fact is ,the calculation doesn't add up(the calculation was based on my estimation on the height of the pond which is about 8 feet, from there i did give my best estimation of the width and length).

based on you claim so far...i attribute the error to the angle of the photograph.

also it is possible,you didn't factor in actual size(after putting brick and thick layer of cement on both the 4 side and bottom)

just my 2 cents smile.gif


Added on December 20, 2010, 6:53 pm@ggming,
about the ikan puyu..lol

you should have been warned by pimpin(whack him!)

if you must know,i used to have 45cm length chinese soft-shelled turtle.it was kept with ikan puyu
you know how good appetite the turtle have! it love flesh(i mean meat ,not another flesh)
the puyu survive along with the turtle, of course the former passed away from 'kebuluran' coz all food is eaten by the turtle.
haha

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chill bro....people are just voicing their opinion

after putting your pond pic ,i did some calculation based on my observation(simple math...i am long away from high school..lol).Fact is ,the calculation doesn't add up(the calculation was based on my estimation on the height of the pond which is about 8 feet, from there i did give my best estimation of the width and length).

based on you claim so far...i attribute the error to the angle of the photograph.

also it is possible,you didn't factor in actual size(after putting brick and thick layer of cement on both the 4 side and bottom)

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If it was 8 feet deep, it would have to be something like 40'x20' to get just over 38k gallons UK but 47k gallons US. It's really no point trying to guess the dimensions based on the photograph. I'm pretty sure ivanchua won't mind sharing dimensions and also whether he means imperial or US gallons.

But Rainman84 does have a valid point regarding the actual volume. When people build a pond say 6ft deep, the water level isn't 6ft because you wouldn't fill it to the brim right? This is something I've always wondered about because personally, when I calculate I always subtract about 0.5' or so for height of pond. As for width, do you measure from edges of the pond or the inside edges of the pond? This is a general question though; not about ivanchua's pond but just what is the generally accepted way of measuring.


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@ivanchua
chill bro....people are just voicing their opinion

after putting your pond pic ,i did some calculation based on my observation(simple math...i am long away from high school..lol).Fact is ,the calculation doesn't add up(the calculation was based on my estimation on the height of the pond which is about 8 feet, from there i did give my best estimation of the width and length).

based on you claim so far...i attribute the error to the angle of the photograph.

also it is possible,you didn't factor in actual size(after putting brick and thick layer of cement on both the 4 side and bottom)

just my 2 cents smile.gif


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about the ikan puyu..lol

you should have been warned by pimpin(whack him!)

if you must know,i used to have 45cm length chinese soft-shelled turtle.it was kept with ikan puyu
you know how good appetite the turtle have! it love flesh(i mean meat ,not another flesh)
the puyu survive along with the turtle, of course the former passed away from 'kebuluran' coz all food is eaten by the turtle.
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Hahahah but there's nothing but puyu in that one pond. I have no idea how many there are; do they multiply like rabbits? Put in a few thousand fry a few years ago. Personally, I haven't caught anything from that pond as I'm not into fishing all that much.

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QUOTE(PIMPIN @ Dec 20 2010, 07:04 PM)
If it was 8 feet deep, it would have to be something like 40'x20' to get just over 38k gallons UK but 47k gallons US. It's really no point trying to guess the dimensions based on the photograph. I'm pretty sure ivanchua won't mind sharing dimensions and also whether he means imperial or US gallons.

But Rainman84 does have a valid point regarding the actual volume. When people build a pond say 6ft deep, the water level isn't 6ft because you wouldn't fill it to the brim right? This is something I've always wondered about because personally, when I calculate I always subtract about 0.5' or so for height of pond. As for width, do you measure from edges of the pond or the inside edges of the pond? This is a general question though; not about ivanchua's pond but just what is the generally accepted way of measuring.


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Hahahah but there's nothing but puyu in that one pond. I have no idea how many there are; do they multiply like rabbits? Put in a few thousand fry a few years ago. Personally, I haven't caught anything from that pond as I'm not into fishing all that much.
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like any fish, they are produce eggs..a lot too...but given that most of local fish are omnivore..they are not picky eater.
few thousand in a pond is too tight for comfort..yeah they'll savor the egg akin to caviar. drool.gif
they are called climbing perch(armed with spike allow it TRAVEL by land)so i am not sure how many you have left in there.usually people who rear puyu in a container keep it in such a way that the rim of the vessel and water level >30cm(juara lompat tinggi) smile.gif
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say what you want agro...i dont need your respect, i just commented its kinda salah and you already conclude and assume im using my vast wisdom before i explain... u might lose your respect for me, but i dont need them, but what you replied, a lot already lose respect on you...

LIGHT TRAVELS FASTER THAN SOUND, THAT IS WHY SOME MAY APPEAR BRIGHT UNTIL YOU HEAR THEM SPEAK, THEN YOU'LL NOTICE NOTHING BUT AN INSUFFICIENT TALENTED FOOL!



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QUOTE(Rainman84 @ Dec 20 2010, 09:43 PM)
like any fish, they are produce eggs..a lot too...but given that most of local fish are omnivore..they are not picky eater.
few thousand in a pond is too tight for comfort..yeah they'll savor the egg akin to caviar. drool.gif
they are called climbing perch(armed with spike allow it TRAVEL  by land)so i am not sure how many you have left in there.usually people who rear puyu in a container keep it in such a way that  the rim of the vessel and water level >30cm(juara lompat tinggi) smile.gif
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The pond is L-shaped, the longer part is 45'x20'x10' while the shorter part of the L is just over 1/3 of that. This one I'm planning to redo keeping the 45'x20'x10' and using the 'leg' of the L to house the filtration system. Would mean breaking the current cement pond structure and starting from scratch so won't be anytime soon as I've yet to link two existing ponds there and have to wait for drought season before starting any form of excavation.


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Here's one of my 4incher feeding
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Update:
I should be able to hit 2" growth rate per month, i hope.
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Is this the proper way of measuring fish? Doesn't seem to be the most accurate way of going about it.

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lol i believe any way that does not harm the fish is a good way to measure fish biggrin.gif if not accurate oso wont too melampau right...
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QUOTE(BenSow @ Dec 21 2010, 12:12 AM)
lol i believe any way that does not harm the fish is a good way to measure fish biggrin.gif if not accurate oso wont too melampau right...
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Of course the last thing anyone wants is to harm the fish but the ruler isn't even in the water to begin with? Shouldn't it at least be as close to the fish lengthwise to begin with or use a piece of string and stretch over the top of the fish? I'm not being critical but I see people measure various ways so I thought I'd ask; this being a discussion forum and all. The Gar I've got doesn't seem to mind being held in the water if you want to keep it still for example and doesn't struggle until it senses you're about to pull it out of the water. So probably could use those measuring trays that Koi enthusiasts use; like a mini tank with a ruler on the inside of it so you just hold fish in place.
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Even the larger Gar that ggMing posted was OK with human contact so long as you don't try to put your hands around the fish. If you gently held fish against the side of the tank it seems to be ok; not for long but certainly long enough to stretch a string from head to tail. Again, like the smaller ones I've noticed that when it senses you're about to lift it out of the water it'll struggle. Not that I'd recommend handling fishes frequently but some people do keep growth records, etc and I suppose a monthly thing wouldn't hurt - the fish would probably get used to it. I'm still learning though, new to the hobby so I guess every detail sort of leads to a question.
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any one know what fish it is?
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look like kamen rider's vehicle
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its a catfish, "doradid" of some sort
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yeah...i think it is white spotted doradid smile.gif

Akidos>>>:thumbs:
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hi guys, i went to gerik,up north 2 days back.i did get the opportunity to visit lfs there.
nothing much, same old stuff(aro,kelah,gourami.etc)
what do interest me was that they have electric catfish 3-4 inches ,price was quoted for rm20.
they also have snapping turtle nod.gif

doing my bits trying to resuscitate this thread laugh.gif
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electric cat fish only rm 20 < - pang my sweetheart, can get the fish at this price ?

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electric cat fish only rm 20  < - pang my sweetheart, can get the fish at this price ?
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I saw a couple of electric catfish for sale at that pet shop near Fatty Crab. Can't remember the name of the store but it looks like its a warehouse. Was under RM50 if I'm not mistaken - wasn't really paying attention. They did have a couple of alligator gars though.

I was looking for a kitten smile.gif
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QUOTE(PIMPIN @ Dec 21 2010, 06:51 PM)
I saw a couple of electric catfish for sale at that pet shop near Fatty Crab. Can't remember the name of the store but it looks like its a warehouse. Was under RM50 if I'm not mistaken - wasn't really paying attention. They did have a couple of alligator gars though.

I was looking for a kitten smile.gif
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where is the lfs?where is fatty crab?
wow..cat eh...what's gonna happen to the fishes?


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electric cat fish only rm 20  < - pang my sweetheart, can get the fish at this price ?
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i would have gotten the fish..but it was not possible as i am heading to Cameron Highland.
poor guy sitting(he was basically sitting on it's butt and staring into my face) all alone in a fish bowl cry.gif


by the way,i didn't see any petshop in Tanah Rata,Cameron highland
only a lot of chick drool.gif


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QUOTE(Rainman84 @ Dec 21 2010, 07:11 PM)
where is the lfs?where is fatty crab?
wow..cat eh...what's gonna happen to the fishes?


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i would have gotten the fish..but it was not possible as i am heading to Cameron Highland.
poor guy sitting(he was basically sitting on it's butt and staring into my face) all alone in a fish bowl cry.gif
by the way,i didn't see any petshop in Tanah Rata,Cameron highland
only a lot of chick drool.gif
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Fatty Crab is Taman Megah or something? Next exit on LDP after SS2 heading towards Sunway.

My family members are all cat lovers and its been about 1.5 years since my Mum's 13 year old Persian died. Since her birthday coming up, thought we'd get her a replacement since enough time has passed.
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QUOTE(PIMPIN @ Dec 21 2010, 10:48 PM)
Fatty Crab is Taman Megah or something? Next exit on LDP after SS2 heading towards Sunway.

My family members are all cat lovers and its been about 1.5 years since my Mum's 13 year old Persian died. Since her birthday coming up, thought we'd get her a replacement since enough time has passed.
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let make this thread HOT again!

anybody!, please share where lfs that you all always go (watching,observing and sewaktu dengan nya) and buying fish??? or maybe Lfs near your house...name the lfs and where is the lfs located..share here..

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me -> ggming shop whenever i feel lonely .


mission in progress - all polypterus fishes and electric eel.
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QUOTE(akidos @ Dec 22 2010, 08:39 PM)
me -> ggming shop whenever i feel lonely .
mission in progress - all polypterus fishes and electric eel.
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You mean you practically live there right.


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let make this thread HOT again!

anybody!, please share where lfs that you all always go (watching,observing and sewaktu dengan nya) and buying fish??? or maybe Lfs near your house...name the lfs and where is the lfs located..share here..
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Don't really know that many shops but Koi were bought from Koi Division in Tropicana. Their food is bought from Koi Division as well.
Aside from that, sometimes I stop by the pet store in Ikano for marine fish pellets but not all the time; perhaps 3-4 times a year at most.
If I'm in the area, I stop by XL in Shah Alam and spend sometime just looking at the fishes but have yet to buy anything from there.
Lately, have been going Pusat Haiwan Atlantis Safari in Taman OUG because my fishes are there at the moment. This is the most time-consuming shop I've ever been to as I can never find the exit and usually end up leaving when the shop closes. Only because the owner chains me to a desk and makes me do various things like setup Ubuntu and other nonsense. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(akidos @ Dec 22 2010, 08:39 PM)
me -> ggming shop whenever i feel lonely .
mission in progress - all polypterus fishes and electric eel.
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Except ggming shop...hahaha ..long time not go there.coz too far from my house...

I Have went to several lfs around kL and Selangor..
Anyone have went to irene aquarium at pj.sek 16..there also have some rare fish.


Added on December 23, 2010, 9:43 amAkidos>>> post all ur fish picture..especially the electric eel!

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electric eel havent buy yet . . . collecting money for my 2nd tank . 4'x 2' x 2'
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electric eel havent buy yet . . . collecting money for my 2nd tank . 4'x 2' x 2'
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How much ur budget for the tank?

And how much the electric eel?
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How much ur budget for the tank?

And how much the electric eel?
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wow..is that even available in malaysian lfs?
wondering how the potential buyer going to bring it back..as i know...it produce electricity when stressed shocking.gif
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QUOTE(Rainman84 @ Dec 23 2010, 10:58 AM)
wow..is that even available in malaysian lfs?
wondering how the potential buyer going to bring it back..as i know...it produce electricity when stressed shocking.gif
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Akidos got supplier who can bring the eel in..
I Think Akidos want to use the eel to save his electric bill...hahaha..dont mad ar Akidos...
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hahha i wish i can do that ...


i already have the tank but need to get the external filter + internal lighting + sand + misc about rm 400 max.

The electric eel imported from south africa - rm 450. From I heard, it charges the electricity when it moves and can continue releasing electricity until the charges finish.



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check this out tongue.gif

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=376301
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hahahah ... yeah i heard adult electric eel they can release up to 800 watt electricity at one tim

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Added on December 23, 2010, 1:32 pmsorry the last pic is goliath tiger if not mistaken ......... not clear cos keep moving left and right.

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That means the on at the shop near Fatty Crab must not be an Electric Catfish as its definitely not 800 bucks.
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i think there is different between electric catfish and electric eel. right?
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i think there is different between electric catfish and electric eel. right?
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heaven and earth biggrin.gif
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BEN>>> HOW YOUR PMR DUDE???
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LOL careful michanz ...today i went to shop nearby steven's corner .. laugh.gif
i saw 1 skinny green shirt look like triad member tengah tarik his ciggie kao kao .. face damn stress itu macam
n then he told another fella, who looks like mafia abit dark, botak n big.. big the tummy i mean
n the green triad say to the bald mafia ' i damn bengang! wan whack oredi'
the mafia fella nod his head .. n sat at the counter, i think he will make some calls for hits. whistling.gif
seeing them so fierce i also faster left the shop. sweat.

l
ook what i found in petstore,under ggming thread
who's the other botak guy?pimpin?
coz he told us he's been spending sometime in ggming store
haha
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yea ... the chinese thin gangster looking apek is ggming and the botak is pimpin.
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QUOTE(PIMPIN @ Dec 23 2010, 09:13 PM)
Rainman84 - uncalled for dude. You're judging people you don't know personally. I'd appreciate you editing or deleting your post because you're causing others to form the wrong impression. If you knew what I did for a living, you'd know its as far removed from 'mafia' as humanly possible. Try NGO. Next time don't judge a book by its cover.

akidos - the guy you're calling a "gangster" is the one who opens up his shop at 2am just for you to check out the fishes not to mention taking in all the other fishes; basically rescuing the fishes you're incapable of caring for once they actually grow to full size.
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hi Pimpin,i never know i could elicit such a response from you.Haha.Look buddy,i am not patronizing you are or what so ever you see it.From where i see, it's just a joke, which you took it so seriously...
no longer a joke,eh?
i though you of all people would be cool enough to recognize that....with what the thing you have said and done when you first make an impression in this thread...from where i deduce, you good in paring off ugly remarks
(intentionally or not).
guess this is one of the day...people just lose their cool.

leave akidos out of this...he's just playing along...

if you analysed the thread where i cut and paste from,you notice ggming gotten a bit serious(yes,enough to bit people heads off)so the guy that actually wrote up the paragraph i took,merely act as ice braker.

i am sure akidos really grateful with ggming ,with all the safekeeping of fishes...you just don't have to quote the
'kacang lupakan kulit' issue..that pal is 'truly' uncalled for...that buddy is akin to "stabbing people in the heart before twisting the handle and pulling it out"...what with mamak?....i think that is derogative term...should not be used whether people mind of not.

i didn't mind you call him 'mamak'(that's 2x) coz i tot you're cool,i was willing to let the remark go by
now i have revise my opinion on you and treat you 'professionally' coz you're like an fragile egg(whether you will be motionless or rolling off the table).

what's with judging book by its cover?
by the way,i don't really care what you do for living, we're all here in this thread for one reason.'Hobby'

what wrong impression from others?
if that's not you--->say no
if that's you-------->don't reply, act as nothing happen,that's how you manage to captivate us all and stay ahead all these time.
if you still not satisfy-->private msg asking me to take my reply out,not by shooting at someone else
(like pumping oil in to raging fire)coz this war 'will' escalate should ,akidos think he's up to
cut you down.

sorry to folks out there,coz you have to listen to this little civil war smile.gif
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Bro - I think this is all a misunderstanding. You should have introduced yourself this afternoon. And btw, mamaks can get away with calling each other mamak. I'm deleting my post. My apologies for the misunderstanding, let's move on shall we?
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Bro - I think this is all a misunderstanding. You should have introduced yourself this afternoon. And btw, mamaks can get away with calling each other mamak. I'm deleting my post. My apologies for the misunderstanding, let's move on shall we?
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yuppie..but who is to know who's mamak?
HOW DO YOU REMOVE A REPLY?
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so anyone know where i can find satay ikan ?
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so anyone know where i can find satay ikan ?
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I really hope you're not referring to the dried smelly sticky fish 'snack' you can smell a mile away and is used as a replacement for cyanide by terrorist organizations with small budgets?
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so anyone know where i can find satay ikan ?
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hey..what's with ikan satey doing in this monster thread.
we are steadfast fish fan here, you should abstain from eating fish(but whatever you do in your four wall is left to you tongue.gif )

kasihan ikan tou...be a fish monk laugh.gif
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stay ikan alligator gar ...

darn my fish went and bite the internal lighting wire .... lucky the voltage is low .

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stay ikan alligator gar ... 

darn my fish went and bite the internal lighting wire .... lucky the voltage is low .
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chill dude....i once had defect on my submerge filter....of course i didn't know a bout it.
i only notice it when i dipped my hand in the water during my usual weekly water changing.
boy, i was mildly electrocuted...no cue at that time coz the guppies was swimming happily
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QUOTE(Rainman84 @ Dec 23 2010, 09:59 PM)
hi Pimpin,i never know i could elicit such a response from you.Haha.Look buddy,i am not patronizing you are or what so ever you see it.From where i see, it's just a joke, which you took it so seriously...
no  longer a joke,eh?
i though you of all people would be cool enough to recognize that....with what the thing you have said and done when you first make an impression in this thread...from where i deduce, you good in paring off ugly remarks
(intentionally or not).
guess this is one of the day...people just lose their cool.

leave akidos out of this...he's just playing along...

if you analysed the thread where i cut and paste from,you notice ggming gotten a bit serious(yes,enough to bit people heads off)so the guy that actually wrote up the paragraph i took,merely act as ice braker.

i am sure akidos really grateful with ggming ,with all the safekeeping of fishes...you just don't have to quote the
'kacang lupakan kulit' issue..that pal is 'truly' uncalled for...that buddy is akin to "stabbing people in the heart before twisting the handle and pulling it out"...what with mamak?....i think that is derogative term...should not be used whether people mind of not.

i didn't mind you call him 'mamak'(that's 2x) coz i tot you're cool,i was willing to let the remark go by
now i have revise my opinion on you and treat you 'professionally' coz you're like an fragile egg(whether you will be motionless or rolling off the table).

what's with judging book by its cover?
by the way,i don't really care what you do for living, we're all here in this thread for one reason.'Hobby'

what wrong impression from others?
if that's not you--->say no
if that's you-------->don't  reply, act as nothing happen,that's how you manage to captivate us all and stay          ahead  all these time.
if you still not satisfy-->private msg asking me to take my reply out,not by shooting at someone else
                                  (like pumping oil in to raging fire)coz this war 'will' escalate should ,akidos think he's up to
                                  cut you down.

sorry to folks out there,coz you have to listen to this little civil war smile.gif


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stop all these shit, and ALWAYS REMEMBER.... words has no meaning without emotion and tone.....!!!!!!
to every individual, they define it in a way of their own...
@rainman84
im not siding neither pimpin, or akidos..... but to be fair, you judge yourself...

me, pimp and mamak know each other too well and we do get the joke, but not others,,,,

calling me a gangster, i might get the joke, but this is a freaking public forum, others might define it another way,,,,
and if you are not satisfy with my answer, you know where to find me,anytime of anyday, or im just a call away..

(now, define this and do you know the real meaning?? whether if im looking for trouble or im just asking you to come to my shop due to your dissatisfaction and asking you to drop by to give you discount?)

make good looking aquariums, to bring out the the best of fishes, but do not make love and war! hahhahaahaha

merry christmas everyone!!! thumbup.gif


Added on December 24, 2010, 8:19 amlight travels faster than sound, that is why i say, some may appear bright until you hear them speak...

now this gangster who works everyday(even on his off day) in a stuffy hot shop has got to go get more fishes for all you full suit office managers and directors who sits in a comfy chair with arm rest, working 8hrs a day and 5 days a week in an air conditioned environment ... and after this, i got to wash the toilet and mop the floor....geessh my work sucks....

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BEN>>> HOW YOUR PMR DUDE???
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haha thanks for asking.. I got 7As and 1C tongue.gif
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stay ikan alligator gar ... 

darn my fish went and bite the internal lighting wire .... lucky the voltage is low .
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Whoa, didn't think Gar would do that. Maybe he was hungry but given the massive amount of food you put in daily its quite unlikely right? But won't he get electrocuted?

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Congratulations dude. Much better than what I got that's for sure. What was the C for?

Considering you're online a lot during exam year; that's a pretty decent effort. Kudos.
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Newbie bro. That's what it said on the tank blush.gif

But couldn't see properly, they put those like PVC pipes for it to hide.
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QUOTE(Rainman84 @ Dec 23 2010, 08:07 PM)
LOL careful michanz ...today i went to shop nearby steven's corner .. laugh.gif
i saw 1 skinny green shirt look like triad member tengah tarik his ciggie kao kao .. face damn stress itu macam
n then he told another fella, who looks like mafia abit dark, botak n big.. big the tummy i mean
n the green triad say to the bald mafia ' i damn bengang! wan whack oredi'
the mafia fella nod his head .. n sat at the counter, i think he will make some calls for hits. whistling.gif
seeing them so fierce i also faster left the shop. sweat.

l
ook what i found in petstore,under ggming thread
who's the other botak guy?pimpin?
coz he told us he's been spending sometime in ggming store
haha
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alamak sweat.gif ... buat lawak tak menjadi sad.gif
mintak maaf ye abang pimpin dan ggming notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(Titan_GigAs @ Dec 24 2010, 05:20 PM)
alamak  sweat.gif ... buat lawak tak menjadi sad.gif
mintak maaf ye abang pimpin dan ggming  notworthy.gif
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All in the past. Rainman84 PM'd me; much respect - gentleman and I spoke to akidos on the phone (next time turn off the porn when you answer bro - dead giveaway LOL).

As far as I'm concerned, it's a non-issue. I actually prefer it when people on forums joke around etc especially if we've met in real life. Would have liked to meet Rainman84 though, at least got more people to bounce ideas off etc. In fact, more people I know perhaps in future they have people who need rescuing they can help out by referring also.

End of the day, we share the same hobby so why not be friends online and offline too. Helps the community as a whole. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(Titan_GigAs @ Dec 24 2010, 05:20 PM)
alamak  sweat.gif ... buat lawak tak menjadi sad.gif
mintak maaf ye abang pimpin dan ggming  notworthy.gif
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i can lawak anytime, but sometime, people just speak without thinking even once, dont mention twice....
my shop is not just for selling fish, you guys can come anytime to lepak and chill...
but when you guys is here, tolong lah intro yourself....

sape titan gigas nih?? i tak kenal pun....

thank you bro khairulanuar to drop by my shoptoday with a friend...


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QUOTE(khairulanuar @ Dec 23 2010, 03:57 PM)
i think there is different between electric catfish and electric eel. right?
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electric eel can zaaapppp you over and over again..... and with higher volts (is this the right term?)

where electric catfish zaaaapppp you once and got to recharge before it can zaaappp you again....



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QUOTE(ggMing @ Dec 25 2010, 07:51 AM)
i can lawak anytime, but sometime, people just speak without thinking even once, dont mention twice....
my shop is not just for selling fish, you guys can come anytime to lepak and chill...
but when you guys is here, tolong lah intro yourself....
sape titan gigas nih?? i tak kenal pun....
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lol i think once, thought no harm onelah n made the joke. mana tau tiba2 jadi isu sensitive.
that time ur muka so stress ..rokok tarik kao kao, u also said "i damn bengang.." mad.gif
want to introself? sweat.gif think twice better diam2 leave

saya ni customer yg masuk kedai u at 'bad timing' dan tak beli apa2 lor. rolleyes.gif


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QUOTE(Titan_GigAs @ Dec 25 2010, 02:27 PM)
lol i think once, thought no harm onelah n made the joke. mana tau tiba2 jadi isu sensitive.
that time ur muka so stress ..rokok tarik kao kao, u also said "i damn bengang.."  mad.gif
want to introself?  sweat.gif think twice better diam2 leave

saya ni customer yg masuk kedai u at 'bad timing' dan tak beli apa2 lor.  rolleyes.gif
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ala, jgn la merajuk... sorry la... nih budak aku tukar air, tak letak anti-chlorine, ikan aku mati, konporm stress....
dah lah ajar 10kali... nasib ikan mati bukan ikan mahal...

tarik rokok kao kao ok, bukan taruk ko kao kao pun.... ehehheheeh....

kalo tersinggung, sorry bang....


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Maybe we can all meet up at ggMing's shop on Sunday (26/12) in the evening? If he's open that is.
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shop opens till 6pm today....
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QUOTE(ggMing @ Dec 25 2010, 07:36 PM)
ala, jgn la merajuk... sorry la... nih budak aku tukar air, tak letak anti-chlorine, ikan aku mati, konporm stress....
dah lah ajar 10kali... nasib ikan mati bukan ikan mahal...

tarik rokok kao kao ok, bukan taruk ko kao kao pun.... ehehheheeh....

kalo tersinggung, sorry bang....
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laki jantan kalo merajuk baik potong saja,
hahaha no wonder that day the myanmar boi muka satu macam oni laugh.gif
nasib baik belum kenal kalo tidak mungkin dah kena tarok rolleyes.gif
wa steady mia, can make joke can also take joke wink.gif
wahh satu perhimpunan haram di jangka akan berlaku di sebuah kedai di OUG petang ini,
yg terlibat akan membincang taktik2 politi... opps i mean ..cara2 betul membela ikan yg cergas dan sihat
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psst hari ni ade tukar air tak? whistling.gif
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alamak did i missed the gathering ?
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alamak did i missed the gathering ?
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more like you missed the taruking session lol.... nah, the meeting is canceled....


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QUOTE(Titan_GigAs @ Dec 26 2010, 02:03 PM)
laki jantan kalo merajuk baik potong saja,
hahaha no wonder that day the myanmar boi muka satu macam oni  laugh.gif
nasib baik belum kenal kalo tidak mungkin dah kena tarok  rolleyes.gif
wa steady mia, can make joke can also take joke  wink.gif
wahh satu perhimpunan haram di jangka akan berlaku di sebuah kedai di OUG petang ini,
yg terlibat akan membincang taktik2 politi... opps i mean ..cara2 betul membela ikan yg cergas dan sihat
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psst hari ni ade tukar air tak?  whistling.gif
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air ade tukar, tapi aku yang tukar.... thumbup.gif

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new year is coming soon biggrin.gif
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year end update of my 8tfr

Happy New year to all ... rclxms.gif

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fuuh nice black diamond...or isit black diamond?
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fuuh nice black diamond...or isit black diamond?
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i bet thier price is insanely exp..gratz on the new pups lol..still learning bout freshwater rays..sila tunjuk ajar sifu

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Hi guys...new member here =),baru terjumpa diz thread so terus join, actually i'm looking for arapaima gigas....ada member yang ada spare x?prefer member from utara (kedah,perlis,penang), thanks guys.....
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QUOTE(ones @ Dec 30 2010, 02:51 PM)
Hi guys...new member here =),baru terjumpa diz thread so terus join, actually i'm looking for arapaima gigas....ada member yang ada spare x?prefer member from utara (kedah,perlis,penang), thanks guys.....
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I saw KW Aquatic at air itam have some stock around 4 inch ..but I donno how much
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air itam kedah or penang?thanks for the info bro..really appreciate it smile.gif
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QUOTE(ones @ Dec 30 2010, 02:51 PM)
Hi guys...new member here =),baru terjumpa diz thread so terus join, actually i'm looking for arapaima gigas....ada member yang ada spare x?prefer member from utara (kedah,perlis,penang), thanks guys.....
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welcome to this forum! biggrin.gif

you will find what you are looking for thumbup.gif

what fish do you keep?


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year end update of my 8tfr

Happy New year to all ... rclxms.gif

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nice tank and MONSTER!!! drool.gif


Added on December 30, 2010, 6:01 pmHappy New Year To All Members...!

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air itam kedah or penang?thanks for the info bro..really appreciate it smile.gif
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Penang KW aquatic .. I think CTY also have some stock
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thanks bro, i keep alligator gar, bichir (Polypterus senegalus), clown knife fish and also toman bunga (Channa Marulioides @ emperor snakehead), now looking for arapaima gigas haha

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