Personally, I don't buy this crap.
Simply because I think each company should produce something to beat competitor's. To produce something to outpace competitors.
I don't think this is too much to ask for.
Just look at the competition of ATI vs nVidia over the years.

On one hand, they tell  "average user" doesn't need that kind of performance.
On other hand, they tell "average user" needs more cores.

Bullcrap. Hypocrites.

I'd say just let the performance of the product speak for itself.
We say "yay" if the product is good.
We say "boo" if the product is inferior.
Show us the performance. Show us the price. People will judge for themselves.

meh,if that the case with bulldozer i would skip HD7000 series
but still....HD6990 seem pretty interesting...apart then its non human noise produced

Sadly , average user will never judge themselves on the product that they wanted , they will likely get influenced by their companion & advertisement lolsss ...

Not all HD6990 is noisy only the reference cooler on HD6990 were shit loud @.@

Not all HD6990 is noisy only the reference cooler on HD6990 were shit loud @.@

Good point, but then the "avarage customers" won't even consider AMD, they trust brand more than anything else (price/performance). We have to admit that Intel really did a good job on marketing.

any suggestion which brand should i go with for HD6990?
and how much price increase?

Possibly another delay. Seems like 32nm is giving them problems

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-q3-20...ries,13559.html

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=e...amd%2F519649%2F
Damn, now even CanardPC says Bulldozer isn't that good. Apparently it's only competitive against Sandy Bridge in multithreaded benchmarks, and poor in games. It did recommend the FX-8120 for overclockers, though.

For those looking for some advice before the time about Bulldozer FX, here's one of our colleagues CanardPC over two weeks yet before the end of the NDA. How is this possible? Now comes the newsstands the new magazine CanardPC Hardware, with inside the test Bulldozer FX ... or almost!

In fact the test is not yet available, NDA forces, and readers can actually login from October 12 on a web page to discover the full review. The scores are not directly present in the magazine, but the buying guide of CPU if and CanardPC it evokes the FX-8150 and 8120, both versions expected octocores respectively 245 and $ 205.

Here are some selected pieces from the magazine of our colleagues to read it all for yourself and have access to complete test CanardPC from October 12, it will cost you € 5.90 at your newsagent.



"In the more upscale, FX processors based on the Bulldozer architecture we also disappointed: while they are still generally more efficient than their predecessors and allow AMD to approach much of the last Core i5 and i7 but their performance remains below expectations. Besides, as we announced already in our previous issue, if they can sometimes compete with Sandy Bridge in the applications of rough calculations, the results are in video games very far behind. Only overclockers (and fanboys) will find them a great interest given their predisposition in this area. "

"The AMD FX-8120 is probably the model of the new series" Bulldozer "that offers the best price / performance ratio. It is able to compete with the i5-2500K in most computing applications even if gross lags behind in video games. are nonetheless substantial overclocking capabilities and available at no additional cost. Faced with the old Phenom X4 980, this is a very good alternative. "

"Offered at a price slightly lower than the Core i7-2600K Intel, the FX-8150 is currently the most powerful model from the new architecture" Bulldozer "for AMD. Unfortunately, he fails, at best, that to match its direct competitor in some media processing applications and is always behind in games."

On another note, Intel shill OBR is claiming these:
"AMD FX has many clocks/voltage plans. 1400/1700/2100/2500/3200/3600/3900/4200+ MHz with various voltages. Default clock is 3.6 GHz at +/- 1.3V. Turbo Core 2.0 needs voltage 1.41V for 3.9 and 4.2 GHz."
And apparently, power consumption for FX-8150 is comparable with i7 2600K.

Look like hope to try and getting smaller so many bad news.

I hope it come out with something that comparable to i5 but lower price.

Imagine ATI produce a new top-line product that is slower than nVidia GTX590.
It's committing suicide.

As long as the price remains acceptable, and able to cover the R&D cost, no  suicide will be done.

http://www.chiphell.com/thread-272826-1-1.html
Microcenter said, Bulldozer already reached the retail store.
The first launch will include FX-6100, FX-8120 and FX-8150.
AMD will provide the official BIOS for current motherboards in market.

Microcenter also mentioned, the will be the first revenge from AMD, for last 5 years.

AMD has not been too well received in the upper end of CPUs for quite some time now. Once Intel started pushing for performance with their Conroe core, AMD was forced to stay competitive in the mainstream market to survive and that is pretty much where we have been for the last 5 years. Also returning after a nearly 5-year hiatus is the FX moniker for AMD’s flagship products. According to leak(s) from Microcenter that floated past our desks we should see a resurgence of at least one of those two on October 12th, 2011:

"AMD is launching their new AM3+ FX series processors on 10/12/11. We currently have a number of AM3+ compatible motherboards in stock. These motherboards will support the new AM3+ FX processors as well as legacy AM3 processors."


Personally, I would shy away from the words "Bull" and "Dozer" in my product line.

Also from the memo we learned that the new AM3+ FX SKUs that will launch includes: FX-6100, FX-8120, and the FX-8150. The 6000-series parts constitute 6-core processors where the 8000-series parts constitute 8-core parts. To support those processors we shall see three Gigabyte motherboards, four ASUS motherboards, and four ASRock motherboards. Update Oct 1 @ 2pm: There may be more motherboards at launch but since this is a Microcenter leak it only considers their stock.

Gigabyte  GA-990FXA-UD3
Gigabyte  GA-990FXA-UD5
Gigabyte  GA-990FXA-UD7
ASUS  Sabertooth 990FX
ASUS  M5A88-V EVO
ASUS  M5A99X EVO
ASUS  M5A97 EVO
ASRock  990FX Extreme4
ASRock  890FX Deluxe 5
ASRock  880G PRO 3*
ASRock  890GX PRO 3*

Each of these motherboards will require a BIOS update to be serviceable though the leak suggests that the update would be performed by Microcenter themselves. If for some reason you have the board on your own you will need an older AM3 processor to perform the update. Also, the last two ASRock motherboards (asterixed) do not yet have a BIOS update for AM3+. AMD is expected to post an official blog about the topic on October 3rd at AMD.com.

The new bios from AMD will improve the Bulldozer by a lot?
It is supposed to let manufacturer to write the bios for their motherboard, but now, by AMD?