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saturn85
post Apr 13 2011, 04:33 AM

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Bulldozer yields are good rclxms.gif
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post Apr 13 2011, 11:24 PM

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AMD Chipsets Will be the First to Support USB 3.0
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AMD announced that its A75 and A70M Fusion chipsets will be the first certified 'Superspeed USB' chipsets. Translated into plain English that means they will support the 5Gbps USB 3.0 interface.

By bringing USB 3.0 support into its Fusion chipsets, AMD has become the first chip firm to integrate a USB 3.0 controller into its silicon. Even though Intel is on the panel that designed the USB 3.0 interface, it has yet to announce a chipset that supports the interface, instead focusing on its Light Peak interface, now known as Thunderbolt.

USB 3.0 does provide backwards compatibility with USB 2.0 and that's what AMD will play on as it promotes Fusion.

AMD Fusion USB3.0

Thats a good start for the notebooks using amd chipset. Does this mean when bulldozer arrives we're getting USB3.0 mobos as well ? brows.gif
While AMD maybe the first to finish off what Intel and USB 3.0 is fast now, isnt Thunderbolt better since it has 10gb/s transfer rate ?
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post Apr 14 2011, 03:15 AM

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they revive their FX moniker...
now im scare with the price...
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post Apr 14 2011, 04:08 AM

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QUOTE(Nosferatu @ Apr 13 2011, 11:24 PM)
AMD Chipsets Will be the First to Support USB 3.0

AMD Fusion USB3.0

Thats a good start for the notebooks using amd chipset. Does this mean when bulldozer arrives we're getting USB3.0 mobos as well ? brows.gif
While AMD maybe the first to finish off what Intel and USB 3.0 is fast now, isnt Thunderbolt better since it has 10gb/s transfer rate ?
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At least now they have native support for USB 3.0..not too sure as to whether Thunderbolt will takeoff or not as there are so many devices out there compatible with USB
If Intel manages to force all OEM to implement the Thunderbolt then there is a possibility it could be the successor to USB..
But then again Thunderbolt is so fast I doubt any device can actually gain additional performance as devices such as HDD is not fast enough to keep up..
QUOTE(syazani43 @ Apr 14 2011, 03:15 AM)
they revive their FX moniker...
now im scare with the price...
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Definitely not all their products will be under the FX moniker and will be priced accordingly..
If AMD decides to price it at a level of LGA2011 X79 they will just dig their grave because it is too expensive for the mainstream market..
Bulldozer should be priced according to SB prices..according to this chart also you won't see a whole complete system won't cost a lot and not priced $1k+ per CPU
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post Apr 14 2011, 04:18 AM

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QUOTE(Nosferatu @ Apr 13 2011, 11:24 PM)
AMD Chipsets Will be the First to Support USB 3.0

AMD Fusion USB3.0

Thats a good start for the notebooks using amd chipset. Does this mean when bulldozer arrives we're getting USB3.0 mobos as well ? brows.gif
While AMD maybe the first to finish off what Intel and USB 3.0 is fast now, isnt Thunderbolt better since it has 10gb/s transfer rate ?
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yeah, a nice move. rclxms.gif
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post Apr 14 2011, 02:25 PM

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Woah. Llano quad core also below 700 USD. Is it gonna be more than 500? :S
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post Apr 14 2011, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(smokymcpot @ Apr 14 2011, 02:25 PM)
Woah. Llano quad core also below 700 USD. Is it gonna be more than 500? :S
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Compare prices with the Sandy Bridge equivalent. The 700USD quote is for the whole rig.

Regarding USB3, would they release a new southbridge that supports it for FX890? That would be important to enthusiasts I reckon, rather than the current third party Renesas chips.
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post Apr 16 2011, 11:11 AM

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All i want to know is where and when can i get my hands on AMD 8-core CPU
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post Apr 21 2011, 09:48 AM

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New update!!
http://hothardware.com/Reviews/Questions-o...ozer-Discussed/

looks like I'll have to change my mobo afterall cry.gif
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oh man, i cant wait!!!
really hope it can beat sandy bridge..
and hope its price is good too..
definitely will change to bulldozer when it is released!!!!

COME ON AMD!!!
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post Apr 22 2011, 10:18 PM

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Zacate is good but not revolutionary. I hope to see Llano's IGP perform better, much better than Intel's SNB.
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post Apr 23 2011, 05:48 PM

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QUOTE(tissueboxie @ Apr 22 2011, 10:18 PM)
Zacate is good but not revolutionary. I hope to see Llano's IGP perform better, much better than Intel's SNB.
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Zacate was only a proof of concept that Fusion is suitable for the market..it does well in the netbook and low cost notebook market
Llano will obviously be better than Zacate because it is not built for low power consumption like Zacate at 18W..Intel SB GPU is not that bad either
The HD6450 is a discrete GPU but it is also part of Llano which has HD6410-HD6550 so you can expect similar or better performance..
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post Apr 27 2011, 07:03 PM

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AMD's FX "Bulldozer" CPU Clock Speeds Revealed

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While AMD is rather cautious in its official statements in regards to anything related to the upcoming CPU offerings based on the next-generation Bulldozer architecture, unofficial sources leak more and more information. This is not a surprise, as the launch is drawing near. Now a Chinese website published excerpts from datasheets explaining the technical specifications of various Bulldozer samples. These are not the usual engineering samples we are talking about here (those are ticking at 1.8 and 2.6GHz), but samples of actual products that are going to be launched on June 7, 2011 in Taipei, Taiwan.

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More info at: http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2011/...s-revealed.aspx
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post Apr 27 2011, 10:08 PM

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wow, the cpu boost frequency quite high.
one of them can boost to 4.1GHz. notworthy.gif
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post Apr 30 2011, 10:52 AM

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The Six Differences Between AM3 and AM3+ Socket.
AM3+ socket :
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AM3+ pin socket is larger than AM3 pin socket by 11%, so the performance of electricity also different.
To prevent breaking the pin on the CPU when putting it on AM3 motherboard, you must be careful.
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The difference is not only limited on appearance only, but also technical specification.
AM3+ socket has faster link between CPU and power supply controller.
It uses the design on 3.4MHz VID. It enables better power management and power saving.
For your information, AM3 motherboard only provide 400KHz, which is obviously slower.
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AM3+ motherboard also can reduce the ripple by 22%, making the power management more scientific, better stability.
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Because of the advance architecture and high core number of Bulldozer, motherboard is required to provide more electricity.
So, AM3+ socket can provide more 32% of electricity than AM3, to meet the requirement of Bulldozer.
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In addition, AM3+ motherboard got adjusted cooler bracket.
According to there said, it can reduce the temperature of CPU at certain degree.
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post Apr 30 2011, 10:58 AM

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About time they changed the cooler retention design ...

damn , need to start saving now
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post Apr 30 2011, 03:12 PM

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Actually that came from ASRock..not too sure if it applies to all AM3+ board from all manufacturers but about the pin hole is definitely for all AM3+ boards

http://www.asrock.com/news/events/2011AM3+/

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AMD's busy June launch schedule leaks - Zambezi, Llano are all in

It's no secret that AMD is planning for some major releases before this quarter ends, but the exact time line has only been suggested. Thankfully, now the schedule for AMD's June offensive has leaked online so everyone can mark their calendars and make plans for potential upgrades.

The whole AMD-flavored madness will begin on June 1st at Computex where the company will reveal its Sabine notebook platform (powered by the Llano A-Series APUs), the 900 Series chipsets (there will be FM1 parts for Llano and AM3+ parts for Zambezi/FX Series CPUs), and the VISION 2011 line (basically includes all desktop/notebook/netbook platforms for this year).

Moving forward to June 7th, this is the day on which AMD will officially unveil the FX Series processors (Zambezi) and the AM3+ platform. The 6/8-core Zambezi chips will have their debut at E3 in Los Angeles.

On June 13 the AMD-supported Fusion Developer Summit will kick off in Seattle and will, of course, focus on the Fusion ecosystem. Nothing all that exciting for the regular user but there may be some interesting software announcement made.

Last but not least, on June 14, AMD will hold in Seattle the 'Client Launch Event' for both the Sabine (notebook) and Lynx (desktop) platforms, and the VISION 2011 offering. Expect a heap of announcement on the 14th since partners will get the green light to reveal their Sabine/Lynx-based products.

As you can see there will be two fiery AMD weeks in June so don't book any time off. We sure won't.
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June 1 (Computex) - Llano announcement + 900 series chipset launch + Vision 2011
June 7 (E3) - FX Bulldozer launch + AM3+ motherboards launch
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post May 2 2011, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(^KamilskaZ^ @ Mar 31 2011, 04:32 PM)
by seen that price system,can it fusion with dedicated graphic card like hybrid crossfire?
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Yes it can.It can be paired with either HD6570 or 6670.Refer to below :


[DH] Radeon HD 6550: Fastest IGP desinged for desktop level Fusion LIano Processors

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AMD Radeon HD 6550 detailed. It will come with Fusion A8-3550 and A8-3550P Processors. It has 400 shader processors and the default GPU speed is 594MHz. Consumers can use Turks based discrete graphics card such as Radeon HD 6570 and Radeon HD 6670 with Radeon HD 6550 in dual graphics mode and AMD called Radeon HD 6550 + Radeon HD 6670 as Radeon HD 6690.


http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n...eon-HD-6550.htm
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post May 3 2011, 09:52 PM

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Three Bulldozer motherboards leaked brows.gif

AMD FX and Llano performance leaked brows.gif
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post May 5 2011, 12:56 AM

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^ That is not an accurate indicator of performance as PCMark Vantage is capped at 4 cores or threads. That is why you can see that Core i3 2100 2C/4T and Core i5 2300 4C/4T has a very close score against the Core i7 2600K 4C/8T. So that means that actually the score for the AMD FX 8 core is using only 4 cores to produce that score which matches the Core i7 2600K with 4 physical cores running but HT off due to the 4 core or thread limitation of PCMark Vantage.

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