http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=268956

When is this out in malaysia?

hehe Dell quitely included two APU Zacate lappies on its website. Both are dual-core processors featuring HD6310 (E350 APU) RM1800 and HD6250 (C50 APU) RM 1600 graphics. Both are 11.6" lappies with 'superfine' display in which we see 1366 x 768 pixels crammed into a 11.6". You can identify the APU models with model numbers ending in **02. Models were just added few days ago. I believe they will soon add 13.3" APU models

http://www.dell.com/my/p/inspiron-m102z/pd...=inspiron-m102z
http://www.dell.com/my/p/inspiron-m102z/pd...=inspiron-m102z

these are for those who want ULTRA mobility with power. The lappies are thin and light - less than 1" thick and last more than 9hrs on a six cell battery.

Most probably somewhere near July 20th as that is the release date of the Bulldozer CPU..

That prices don't make the E-350 attractive anymore..I'd rather see like the Acer version where the notebook version and the netbook version is not even more than RM100 price difference..
The Acer notebook with E-350 is like RM1349 I last saw it..when it first came out it was like RM1600+ and the price not tempting at all back then..but now price drop so much

lidat i wait till Dell drops its price

any one know their cpu prices i hope a 6 core will beat 2600k at rm 700

Gigabyte Unveils AM3+ Black Socket Motherboards
MSI Updates AM3 Motherboards for AM3+ CPUs

AMD’s first 32nm part coming in Q2

Llano delay helped yields

Not too sure about the pricing but it should be placed accordingly to what it is supposed to compete with..not too sure about how to gauge that a 6 core BD will beat a 4 core SB because it depends on the test done
Fingers crossed that the performance is worth the wait..

On the other hand Llano is shipping already most probably to ODM..expect to see Llano based devices after Bulldozer comes out
http://blogs.amd.com/fusion/2011/04/04/%E2...pu-is-shipping/
http://www.hardocp.com/news/2011/04/04/amd...o_apu_shipping/



AMD Llano coming to a laptop soon..desktop version most probably available next year when they refresh their Llano with Bulldozer modules

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-llano...mple,12549.html

that is nice of MSI
Dunno about Intel mobos lately since I stopped using Intel ages ago, but the nice feature for amd mobos is that it can support a wide range of their cpu line making upgrading less of a hassle. Of coz still got limit lar

It might be fun to CF the Llano with a budget HD6000 card, as in addition to the CF perf, we might also get simultaneous access to the motherboard's graphic ports.

cant wait to reach our shore. the price vs performance is kind off good to me
muz get 1 for portable usage

Have any of you guys seen this?
http://www.cpuforever.com/showthread.php?tid=896

Llano for desktop only can get next year? Link?

Well, according to Tom's Hardware, they said it will be available in a few months time. So should come same time with Bulldozer in June

So the llano uses integrated graphics? Cannot get another gpu to use on the mobo?

28mm Ontario/Zacate ? http://semiaccurate.com/2011/04/11/guess-w...ped-out-at-amd/

i dont think d price will be cheap since they claimed that Bulldozer was on par with SB from Intel...
so guys, dont put high hope on d pricing ya...

maybe desktop and llano share the same socket just the desktop cpu requires tons of power
but 2.4ghz quad core seems impressive if it made for a notebook, but currently amd only put its 1.8ghz version for comparison with sandy bridge


This post has been edited by parascout: Apr 12 2011, 11:03 AM

Llano will be at its best with notebooks as most desktop users would rather rely on a discrete GPU to offer them the performance they need for gaming..
There is no link of course but there will be a refresh like I said with Bulldozer modules..since it is an APU it will also use its own socket rather than AM3/AM3+
The desktop version I am not 100% sure but I am pretty sure they will as there is a market for users that want a budget PC that is faster than Zacate..

Those kind of videos are better taken with a grain of salt as the tests are made to show that Llano is better than SB..
In actual fact Intel's processor is actually a lot better compared to AMD's Stars but this test is loading more on the video and graphical based applications..
So actually this test is to show that AMD Llano can handle those multitasking loads as the video processing is offloaded to its GPU making the CPU handle other tasks..
The SB however has to handle all of the load on its own and no matter how powerful it may be..if you make any processor do all the work it will slow down
If Llano CPU portion is made to do all 100% of the workload in that test it will suffer about the same problems as well so the star of the show is the GPU..
Bulldozer will come in June but Llano if I am not mistaken would be released the month after..now it is only shipped to OEM partners to assemble it to laptops

Obviously for the desktop version it will have a PCIE slot to use a discrete GPU..even the Zacate have a PCIE 4x so I don't see why Llano won't have at least PCIE 16x
I think that the GPU on the Llano APU will also be in a hybrid Crossfire with a compatible Radeon GPU to switch between the 2 GPU depending on workloads..

actually sandy bridge's hd3000 are also being able to do hardware acceleration for video playback and the gpu was use to render the final fantasy 14, however its still pick application for the comparison ,but if the llano based notebook(apu only) can be sell under rm2000, i guess its really good bang for buck

i wonder why the next 2012 buldozer must include a gpu, are we reaching the era where computational operation can be easily offload by gpu, guess it will be the revolution of computer era, where gpu takes nearly all process

This post has been edited by zerorating: Apr 12 2011, 09:29 PM

The HD3000 can do hardware acceleration but I have seen some said that that Llano GPU could offer 2-3x more performance compared to a HD3000..
I am guessing as well some power saving from having the GPU on the same die as opposed to having it on the motherboard..every milli Watt counts to laptops
However I have seen an increase in collaboration between AMD and software manufacturers so that those softwares can take advantage of the APU..
This is a good step by AMD as there is no point in having a good hardware but on the software side it is not utilizing it..
If Llano can be sold for less than 2k it would definitely be a hit for the mainstream consumers..
That is also why that the market is speculated to have an increase in GEMs..that also should mean the end for AM3+ socket for Zambezi
Maybe they will introduce a single socket type for Trinity and Komodo APU..


This post has been edited by dma0991: Apr 12 2011, 09:35 PM

Komodo is not APU, it is CPU.

lol,yup you are right, dx11 are just a part for the platform, not including on same die, but u really wondered why intel working so hard to put gpu on its processor and microsoft start to support arm processor and nvidia have a great roadmap for tegra processor maybe on the upcoming year, software can easily utilize gpu resources, yes gpu are far more efficient but its still really too complex to been use

As the process sizes shrinks, it makes sense to want to integrate as many features as possible in one chip. Do you remember the ATI Radeon X1000 generation, like the expensive, huge, powerful, hot and noisy X1950 Pro? The higher end Llano has more GPU muscles and features than that X1950 Pro. It is cheaper to manufacture, it consumes less overall power, generates less overall heat, and has expanded processing capabilities. For laptops, HTPCs, gaming consoles (Xbox 360's CPU and GPU are on a single chip) and other consumer electronics that may make use of such features, this is progress and a very good thing.


For certain parallel processing tasks, the GPU can provide 10 to more than 20 times the processing power of a CPU.