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post Mar 21 2011, 09:14 AM

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SB fast but in term on gaming only fast on anything that below full hd.nw i think every1 got full hd lcd/led d.i think just wait for the review of bulldozer and z68 c thing how they turn out.
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post Mar 25 2011, 09:39 PM

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First AMD Bulldozer Benchmarks Leaked brows.gif
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actually it is the server base bulldozer, interlagos chips with 16 cores. biggrin.gif

i think the test system is dual cpu socket,
means using two 16 cores interlagos chips. unsure.gif
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post Mar 25 2011, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(saturn85 @ Mar 25 2011, 09:39 PM)
thats awsome,maybe fast because the benchmark all 8 core inside bulldozer die, since they can compress the old athlonII core into much smaller core inside llano, hopes the benchmark true

correction- the cpu that was use for benchmark are 1.8ghz 16 cores bulldozer core doh.gif dont put expectation too much doh.gif

QUOTE(saturn85 @ Mar 25 2011, 09:49 PM)
actually it is the server base bulldozer, interlagos chips with 16 cores. biggrin.gif
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hope the desktop version gonna be 8core 3.6ghz doh.gif

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post Mar 25 2011, 10:44 PM

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Bulldozer still very new and intended to be high end desktop CPU choice...
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post Mar 26 2011, 02:54 AM

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if its high end + best price/performance like their GC counterpart then many might consider switching to AMD this time
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post Mar 29 2011, 06:38 PM

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well, i just pray on god and hope it can compete with intel, so the price fight will be advantage too all consumers.

If intel owned and AMD fail, consumers also don't be happy since intel will take the performance crown and release overprice product later.
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post Mar 30 2011, 11:06 AM

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hope i7series prices will drop after bulldozer announced~ but do u guys think bulldozer series will be cheaper than i7 ?

when will Bulldozer reach malaysia rclxm9.gif so eager with it
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I always love AMD for their effort.their chipset is good actually.they cramped SATA 3.0 in 890fx while intel's X58 still rely on 3rd party chip.their backward compatibility are awesome.they also come with more PCIe lane.that why manufacturer can keep lower price for AMD mobo.it juz that their proc can't keep up with intel.i really hope this new gen proc will put AMD back neck to neck with intel.then,i'll seriously will migrate my system back to AMD
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post Mar 31 2011, 01:35 AM

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Don't hope on cheap prices from AMD already as they have brought back the FX series and most probably their top of the line 8 core processor will be very expensive..
I am expecting that 8 core to outperform current SB offerings but at the same time cost more than the Core i7 2600K as well..I doubt it will be priced on par or lower than Core i7 2600K just to compete with it
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post Mar 31 2011, 02:01 AM

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QUOTE(dma0991 @ Mar 31 2011, 01:35 AM)
Don't hope on cheap prices from AMD already as they have brought back the FX series and most probably their top of the line 8 core processor will be very expensive..
I am expecting that 8 core to outperform current SB offerings but at the same time cost more than the Core i7 2600K as well..I doubt it will be priced on par or lower than Core i7 2600K just to compete with it
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their new strategy are the different now,i bet the top of the line bulldozer will price on par with core i7 2600k,they dont care about enthaustic market like what intel's offering(980x,990x)
For me they must win in term of performance for the fx series, since bulldozer are purely cpu, not like sandy bridge which include gpu, if the performance are nearly the same, they price will be much lesser
the reason why they return back the fx name, because they want those chip to be leader for performance and return back the glory of the old amd
brah, i want the review for the 6 core right now, high end user wont care about gpu inside the cpu rolleyes.gif
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in this product positioning they will priced 4core (2 module) bulldozer higher than 4 core llano with gpu, just hope it will have outstanding performance

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Mar 31 2011, 02:01 AM)
their new strategy are the different now,i bet the top of the line bulldozer will price on par with core i7 2600k,they dont care about enthaustic market like what intel's offering(980x,990x)
For me they must win in term of performance for the fx series, since bulldozer are purely cpu, not like sandy bridge which include gpu, if the performance are nearly the same, they price will be much lesser
the reason why they return back the fx name, because they want those chip to be leader for performance and return back the glory of the old amd
brah, i want the review for the 6 core right now, high end user wont care about gpu inside the cpu  rolleyes.gif
in this product positioning they will priced 4core (2 module) bulldozer higher than 4 core llano with gpu, just hope it will have outstanding performance
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I know they are not aiming for the enthusiasts market like the LGA2011/LGA1366..LGA1366 might make sense because it is still cheap
If you scale the price of SB as mid range and SB-E as high end the SB-E would easily be somewhere 1k++ for the processor alone..
I've seen the list of features that SB-E has and I don't think AMD will sacrifice backwards compatibility for oversized socket and quad channel DDR3..
Bulldozer performance seems a little bit vague currently because AMD has not even released much info about it..
But from the architecture side it is actually a different approach than Intel's and 8 core is actually 4 modules which should equal 4 cores to Intel..
I will come to expect many would say that Intel's 4 core is superior to AMD's 8 core instead of looking at how it should be looked at..4 modules not 8 cores rolleyes.gif
Even more so the Bulldozer module without the L2 cache has the same die space as a single SB core..so a module should be compared with Intel's single core
I am also waiting for the 6 core but AMD marketing team is stupid for making me and the whole market wait.. yawn.gif
Llano will not enter the desktop market yet but it should aim for the laptop market first..E-350 low end laptops are going as cheap as some netbooks already
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QUOTE(dma0991 @ Mar 31 2011, 11:16 AM)
I know they are not aiming for the enthusiasts market like the LGA2011/LGA1366..LGA1366 might make sense because it is still cheap
If you scale the price of SB as mid range and SB-E as high end the SB-E would easily be somewhere 1k++ for the processor alone..
I've seen the list of features that SB-E has and I don't think AMD will sacrifice backwards compatibility for oversized socket and quad channel DDR3..
Bulldozer performance seems a little bit vague currently because AMD has not even released much info about it..
But from the architecture side it is actually a different approach than Intel's and 8 core is actually 4 modules which should equal 4 cores to Intel..
I will come to expect many would say that Intel's 4 core is superior to AMD's 8 core instead of looking at how it should be looked at..4 modules not 8 cores  rolleyes.gif
Even more so the Bulldozer module without the L2 cache has the same die space as a single SB core..so a module should be compared with Intel's single core
I am also waiting for the 6 core but AMD marketing team is stupid for making me and the whole market wait.. yawn.gif
Llano will not enter the desktop market yet but it should aim for the laptop market first..E-350 low end laptops are going as cheap as some netbooks already
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im not really putting to much hope on amd since their rnd budget are much lower than intel, they might release ivy bridge (expected 15% faster than sandy bridge), just hoping the the single core bulldozer performance to have 80-100% of sandy bridge core and price competitively.Of course the 2-3k priced intel processor will win the benchmark, but who can afford that, with amd, im just hoping to get the best bang of the buck offering and we can see the current sandy bridge filling up those offering
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post Mar 31 2011, 02:30 PM

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If that graph is correct, aren't we also looking at two different sockets, each serving a particular market class, something like Intel's? AM3+ and FM1.
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post Mar 31 2011, 04:32 PM

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by seen that price system,can it fusion with dedicated graphic card like hybrid crossfire?
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QUOTE(^KamilskaZ^ @ Mar 31 2011, 04:32 PM)
by seen that price system,can it fusion with dedicated graphic card like hybrid crossfire?
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I suppose that could be a possibility as with the previous version of IGP where it is integrated on the motherboard instead had hybrid crossfire as in IGP + discrete..
So there can be a possibility that such hybrids will come out again..



Crysis 2 on the E-350..anyone interested in playing ultra low almost playable settings? smile.gif
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QUOTE(^KamilskaZ^ @ Mar 31 2011, 04:32 PM)
by seen that price system,can it fusion with dedicated graphic card like hybrid crossfire?
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for the llano, you can only crossfire with hd5500 series only i think...
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post Apr 1 2011, 05:06 PM

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amd gaming console?

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http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-...-into-consoles/
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amd fusion II (code name krishna) will be used in next gen xbox 720?

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http://www.kitguru.net/software/gaming/jul...i-for-xbox-720/
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sorry for being a slowpoke<-------- dont knw what this means actually. hahaha. anyway, this is a good news for amd fusion..

the E-350 is not meant for heavy gaming, it's the first generation amd fusion, the sole purpose is to fight the utra-low intel atom/celeron-based netbook/notebook. i bet atom/celeron based netbook/notebook cannot play crysis2 at all.

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post Apr 1 2011, 09:22 PM

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Nvidia Wants Multi-GPU SLI Technology on AMD FX "Bulldozer" Platforms - Slide.

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post Apr 1 2011, 09:59 PM

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good, SLI support on amd chipset. rclxms.gif
currently really limited choise to play SLI on amd platform. sweat.gif

expect to launch in late june. unsure.gif
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post Apr 2 2011, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(panglimanadzri @ Apr 2 2011, 10:16 AM)
the E-350 is not meant for heavy gaming, it's the first generation amd fusion, the sole purpose is to fight the utra-low intel atom/celeron-based netbook/notebook. i bet atom/celeron based netbook/notebook cannot play crysis2 at all.
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The reason that I posted it here is just to show that the E-350 can play Crysis 2 although not at the optimal settings that you would come to expect of Crysis 2..
Considering that this is a netbook and you could at least play games pretty much anywhere although at reduced settings..

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