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masaharuendo
post Dec 18 2010, 11:16 PM

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Hi all.. Just wanted to know from those currently studying in sheffield.. how is life there.. planning to go there for next year intake... tq.

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post Dec 22 2010, 11:52 AM

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i'm applying for sept 2011 intake for postgrad courses. finally i have the chance to go UK. wink.gif Getting ready on the documentation part, plan to send in my applications by January.

but one problem is, my last qualification from Taylor's college, where their exam results are based on the score of over 20. They said they couldn't convert it to CGPA as it is french standard...

Will it accepted by UK universities? I'm worried about it..

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QUOTE(starbox @ Dec 22 2010, 11:52 AM)
i'm applying for sept 2011 intake for postgrad courses. finally i have the chance to go UK. wink.gif Getting ready on the documentation part, plan to send in my applications by January.

but one problem is, my last qualification from Taylor's college, where their exam results are based on the score of over 20. They said they couldn't convert it to CGPA as it is french standard...

Will it accepted by UK universities? I'm worried about it..
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If it's the standard used by French Universities then most UK universities should know how to evaluate it.
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post Dec 22 2010, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(starbox @ Dec 22 2010, 11:52 AM)
i'm applying for sept 2011 intake for postgrad courses. finally i have the chance to go UK. wink.gif Getting ready on the documentation part, plan to send in my applications by January.

but one problem is, my last qualification from Taylor's college, where their exam results are based on the score of over 20. They said they couldn't convert it to CGPA as it is french standard...

Will it accepted by UK universities? I'm worried about it..
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Where are you applying into? Do you have problem on obtaining support letter?Some requires 2 some even 3 or more.

Have you done ur Ielts, usually it requires band 7 for Post-grad I heard

Regarding school fee, will there be a hike in their fees?
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post Dec 22 2010, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Dec 22 2010, 05:50 PM)
Regarding school fee, will there be a hike in their fees?
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Fees increase almost every year. If your talking about the recent news on the fee hikes in the UK those only apply to their citizens as the government is cutting back on funding. International Students are already paying full fees.
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post Dec 24 2010, 12:04 AM

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6.2 Since the introduction of Tier 4, there
has been a requirement that prevents students
on courses below degree level from being able to
stay in the UK for longer than three years. There
is presently nothing to prevent those studying at
or above degree level from extending their stay
indefinitely.
We need to ensure that all students
understand that Tier 4 is a temporary route, with
the expectation that students should return home on
completion of their course
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We have considered whether, as an
alternative, we should extend to degree level
courses the rule which prevents sub-degree level
students from staying for more than three years.

If I were registered, I certainly would have voted Labour or Lib Dem. Why did a Malaysian politician urge Malaysians to vote for the Conservatives?
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post Dec 24 2010, 12:39 AM

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QUOTE(LightningFist @ Dec 23 2010, 04:04 PM)
6.2 Since the introduction of Tier 4, there
has been a requirement that prevents students
on courses below degree level from being able to
stay in the UK for longer than three years. There
is presently nothing to prevent those studying at
or above degree level from extending their stay
indefinitely.
We need to ensure that all students
understand that Tier 4 is a temporary route, with
the expectation that students should return home on
completion of their course
.

We have considered whether, as an
alternative, we should extend to degree level
courses the rule which prevents sub-degree level
students from staying for more than three years.

If I were registered, I certainly would have voted Labour or Lib Dem. Why did a Malaysian politician urge Malaysians to vote for the Conservatives?
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Which Malaysian politician?

(I voted Lib Dems but they've not done much good for students sadly)

p.s. voting the conservatives probably helps fix the brain drain problem we seem to be suffering from tongue.gif

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LeeHana
post Dec 24 2010, 12:46 AM

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I don't know whether this is the right place to ask, I'm sorry and correct me if I'm wrong.
Currently i'm studying ACCA, and I've been planning to further my study in UK *if possible* since the past year.
anybody know whether i can get any loan from any govt or non-govt institution for this course?

and is it essential to have the IELTS or anything equivalent to it in order to get the loan?

thanks.


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post Dec 24 2010, 12:51 AM

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Yes, it might seem so. But the brain drain, while intrinsically against the imperatives and objectives of the country, are in some cases wholly good for those individuals or persons who have chosen to relocate.

Yeah, Lib Dems have let people down. But are people going to ever be satisfied with their governments? When Labour was in force, they were disliked. Obama was touted, and now the Americans have forgotten how enthralled they were by him initially? Do policies mean anything?

I cannot recall who, but a blogger noted his name. It is very recent (I believe Dec 2010), and can be found via Google.

The section goes on further, they are planning to scrap the post study work route after Jan 2011. I'm not even sure whether people will be allowed to stay 3/4 months or 2 years afterwards to look for work. The most deserving would have probably found employment prior to completing their education, I suppose.


Added on December 24, 2010, 1:45 amhttp://www.loyarburok.com/the-system/bolehland/malaysians-who-voted-in-uk-beware/

Correction, this was written in May this year, and said politician was not necessarily a politician (excuse my extremely poor internet connection).

"Tunku Abidin’s article is interesting in that he urged Malaysians to vote, pointing out with prescience that every vote would count, and urged a vote for the Conservative Party partly based on historic events in Britain’s history which impacted on Malaysian politics. Key events were identified where Malaysians interests seemed to suffer when it was Labour government policies that were sought to be implemented on us."

Please ignore (in my opinion) the writer's poorly made interpretations/conclusions regarding further topics discussed in that article, such as the law.

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post Dec 24 2010, 09:08 AM

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Yes, it might seem so. But the brain drain, while intrinsically against the imperatives and objectives of the country, are in some cases wholly good for those individuals or persons who have chosen to relocate.

Yeah, Lib Dems have let people down. But are people going to ever be satisfied with their governments? When Labour was in force, they were disliked. Obama was touted, and now the Americans have forgotten how enthralled they were by him initially? Do policies mean anything?

I cannot recall who, but a blogger noted his name. It is very recent (I believe Dec 2010), and can be found via Google.

The section goes on further, they are planning to scrap the post study work route after Jan 2011. I'm not even sure whether people will be allowed to stay 3/4 months or 2 years afterwards to look for work. The most deserving would have probably found employment prior to completing their education, I suppose.

The Lib Dems have gone into government and backtracked on most of their promises made prior to the election, using the cover of 'coalition' to put on conservative policy. It is this U-turn that's pissed most students off, not the satisfaction thing you're talking about above.

Policy does matter, else many here wouldn't be complaining about the closing about the PSW (which is a much more serious thing than the first passage you posted). tongue.gif

Ah well, it's the UK's loss
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post Dec 24 2010, 09:54 AM

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Hi guys,

Below is a message from my Uni's International Student Department, just in case you are interested smile.gif

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Student Visa Consultation
The UK government has launched a review of the whole Tier 4 student visa route including Post Study Work and is looking to restrict student visas and possibly close PSW. There is a public consultation period which is open until 31st January 2011 and I would encourage you to reply to this consultation before the closing date, as any changes implemented will affect you. More information and a link to the consultation documents is available here: http://www.ukcisa.org.uk/student/index.php


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post Dec 24 2010, 10:42 AM

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Yes they have, but I mean people are in general not very satisfied of their governments - governments they voted for and put together. To be fair, there wasn't a clear winner this time round.

That consultation we're talking about has some very interesting messages.

The guy says something like "we are concerned that it is not only the brightest and the best who are attracted to Britain and are granted stay".


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post Dec 24 2010, 11:49 AM

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The feeling i get from this is that the current british gov is somewhat ambivalent about student immigration........

it is well know that students who immigrated into the country of their education benefit the recipient country.........the country gains a young worker, well educated and familiar with the country, likely of high intellect, and likely to contribute a lifetime of labour to the country, including taxes.........

on the other hand, it is well know that less qualified (and less desirable) students do get in as well, under the cover of such student migration pathway.........

it's this later bit they are trying to close......

the question is, how to close entry for 'low level' immigrants, while allowing 'high quality' immigrants to come in.....

perhaps the british gov could learn something from the aussies, who have a long history of taking in significant immigration, and usually selecting the best........they didn't get it right all the time, as is seen in the recent change in policy (they have the same issues with people coming in to study languages, diploma, trade certs etc, and staying on), but they have generally been successful in taking in young well trained immigrants in the skills based part of the programme (independent skill based and region/employer sponsored migration accounts for 70+% of all migration)...........

why anyone would want to actually migrate permanently to uk, however, is another question.......smile.gif
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Dec 24 2010, 03:49 AM)
The feeling i get from this is that the current british gov is somewhat ambivalent about student immigration........

it is well know that students who immigrated into the country of their education benefit the recipient country.........the country gains a young worker, well educated and familiar with the country, likely of high intellect, and likely to contribute a lifetime of labour to the country, including taxes.........

on the other hand, it is well know that less qualified (and less desirable) students do get in as well, under the cover of such student migration pathway.........

it's this later bit they are trying to close......

the question is, how to close entry for 'low level' immigrants, while allowing 'high quality' immigrants to come in.....

perhaps the british gov could learn something from the aussies, who have a long history of taking in significant immigration, and usually selecting the best........they didn't get it right all the time, as is seen in the recent change in policy (they have the same issues with people coming in to study languages, diploma, trade certs etc, and staying on), but they have generally been successful in taking in young well trained immigrants in the skills based part of the programme (independent skill based and region/employer sponsored migration accounts for 70+% of all migration)...........

why anyone would want to actually migrate permanently to uk, however, is another question.......smile.gif
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They are very ambivalent about it. Prior to the election when challenged about their 100k net migration figure a year, and given the statistics about student immigration being one of the main contributors, they just kept avoiding the question. Well turns out it was in their minds all along.

Also, note that while the rhetoric they're using is that people doing sub-degree courses are staying back and working in the UK, which apparently isn't what they want etc, etc,... their proposals will affect those who do degree courses and above, and they could clearly fix that by stipulating a higher requirement for the PSW. But no mention of that is made altogether in the consultation documents, and this will affect the 'better' students along with everyone else. I think they're just playing to their galleries saying they're doing the right thing, while in reality to reach their very improbable target of 100k net migration a year, they've had to screw a lot of the non-EU students, talented or not. The rhetoric they're using is just merely to provide a convenient cover, which doesn't square with their proposals.
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According to the data of people who entered in 2004 and still remained in 2009 (>20% of the 'immigrants' who entered through this route in 2004), Chinese, Indians, Pakistanis, Nigerians, and Malaysians make up the top 5 contributing nationalities.

If I were from any of those 5 countries I could see why one would rather move to Britain and attempt to stay 'indefinitely' than remain in or return to their home nations.

Do you think they are going to change the visa rules for Malaysian visitors?

I do think China is a nice place for vacationing though.
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URGENT NEED HELP!

Anyone has got the contacts of agency that will help students to enroll into UK universities?
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post Jan 3 2011, 12:23 AM

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Try the MABECS website.
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May be of some interest on overseas student fees of the future:

"Mr Cameron said raising tuition fees will mean ''two things”: “It will make sure our universities are well funded ...and we won't go on increasing so fast the fees for overseas students.

''In the past we have been pushing up the fees on overseas students and using that as a way of keeping them down for domestic students.

“We have done the difficult thing. We have put up contributions for British students. Yes, foreign students will still pay a significant amount of money but we should now be able to keep that growth under control.”
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Anyone know the procedure of applying for a personal banking account at UK ? Which bank is recommended ? Im going next week in Uni of Wolverhampton . Thanks
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Anyone know the procedure of applying for a personal banking account at UK ? Which bank is recommended ? Im going next week in Uni of Wolverhampton . Thanks
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just like applying bank account in Malaysia

get your phone number, house address, referral letter from uni, passport, id, and make sure they put the correct first name and last name.

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