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LightningFist
post Nov 29 2010, 10:41 PM

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So no medicine/dentistry/veterinary science/medicine then.

Technically the actual application deadline is not 15 January for international students, but it is usually when we submit the application by.

You seem to know everything already, so you should "start" or have started, as long as you meet the January date.

Didn't anyone at your school tell you? You'd receive results in August, schools will confirm your results (for accepted offers) and hence your place.

I assume you have no results with which to submit for application at the moment. In any case, applications for competitive courses (looking at your speculative choices) don't come back very early.

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post Nov 29 2010, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(LightningFist @ Nov 29 2010, 10:41 PM)
So no medicine/dentistry/veterinary science/medicine then.

Technically the actual application deadline is not 15 January for international students, but it is usually when we submit the application by.

You seem to know everything already, so you should "start" or have started, as long as you meet the January date.

Didn't anyone at your school tell you? You'd receive results in August, schools will confirm your results (for accepted offers) and hence your place.

I assume you have no results with which to submit for application at the moment. In any case, applications for competitive courses (looking at your speculative choices) don't come back very early.
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im a private candidate la bro...... :'(

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post Nov 30 2010, 12:37 PM

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Then everything is the same apart from the school aspect.
But then you do know everything.

The only thing you need to sort out is the reference and/or predicted grades.
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post Nov 30 2010, 01:21 PM

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well since private candidates don't have trial results, you'd need to submit real results
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post Nov 30 2010, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(LightningFist @ Nov 30 2010, 12:37 PM)
Then everything is the same apart from the school aspect.
But then you do know everything.

The only thing you need to sort out is the reference and/or predicted grades.
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so who should be my referee? i've been up and down to british council, and they are not that helpful........


QUOTE(Hikari0307 @ Nov 30 2010, 01:21 PM)
well since private candidates don't have trial results, you'd need to submit real results
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i'll be only getting all of my results in august..... so which means i cant apply for 2011 batch?

and does anyone know bout mara loan? meaning is it like jpa which they'll be giving money 4 the tuition fees only? ker slightly more?
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post Nov 30 2010, 01:54 PM

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You can apply.

Predicted grades are not the same as trial grades, trial grades are immaterial in this respect. Predicted grades are not a necessity. Also, if you apply now you most probably do not have AS results unless you took them a long time ago. If you were to include predicted grades you would include predicted grades for both AS and A level.

Your reference should be written by someone who knows you well academically. It could be one of your teachers. They may not be able to provide predicted grades, but this is not always important. It would be useful if you knew which courses you wanted to apply for, because some courses are highly competitive while others aren't, and from knowing that the suitability of your application can be gauged.

You should check the UCAS website, it has some information on independent candidates.
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post Nov 30 2010, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(singingshopaholic @ Nov 30 2010, 01:30 PM)
so who should be my referee? i've been up and down to british council, and they are not that helpful........
i'll be only getting all of my results in august..... so which means i cant apply for 2011 batch?

and does anyone know bout mara loan? meaning is it like jpa which they'll be giving money 4 the tuition fees only? ker slightly more?
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For overseas, as far as I know MARA only give those like JPA scholarships. They will pay tuition fees to the unis and give you some living allowance though it's only for either those top scorers in SPM or those who have been admitted into those top Universities overseas like Ivy League level unis, Oxbridge, the top three Go8 like that. Though JPA comes with a bond for MARA it's kinda like a convertible loan.

Though take note
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Program Pengajian Di Institusi Pengajian Tinggi Terkemuka Luar Negara.

    * Program Ijazah Pertama bagi calon lepasan Matrikulasi / Diploma
    * Program Profesional bagi calon lepasan Diploma / Ijazah Pertama
    * Program Sarjana bagi calon lepasan Ijazah Pertama
    * Program Ijazah Doktor Falsafah bagi calon lepasan Sarjana.

      * Program ini hanya diiklankan dalam akhbar-akhbar tempatan pada setiap hujung tahun bagi kemasukan sesi tahun hadapannya (tertakluk kepada pindaan). Walaubagaimanapun, pertimbangan tajaan adalah tertakluk kepada peruntukan semasa dan dasar terkini MARA.

      NOTA : PERTIMBANGAN TAJAAN ADALAH TERTAKLUK KEPADA PERUNTUKAN SEMASA DAN DASAR TERKINI MARA

and MARA are having some very tight budget nowadays, even places for MARA loans in local IPTS are very limited nowadays and run out fast.

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post Nov 30 2010, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(Hikari0307 @ Nov 30 2010, 02:13 PM)
For overseas, as far as I know MARA only give those like JPA scholarships. They will pay tuition fees to the unis and give you some living allowance though it's only for either those top scorers in SPM or those who have been admitted into those top Universities overseas like Ivy League level unis, Oxbridge, the top three Go8 like that. Though JPA comes with a bond for MARA it's kinda like a convertible loan.

Though take note

and MARA are having some very tight budget nowadays, even places for MARA loans in local IPTS are very limited nowadays and run out fast.
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aite, thanks uguys......
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post Dec 2 2010, 10:21 AM

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just back from playing snow + snow fight around my university .. wahaha .. now 2.20am and still packed with ppl!! ... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(alvinz @ Dec 2 2010, 10:21 AM)
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just back from playing snow + snow fight around my university .. wahaha .. now 2.20am and still packed with ppl!! ... laugh.gif
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that was so cooooooolllll!!!!!may i know which part of UK u are now? nod.gif
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i am in Guildford, Surrey ... uni closed today due to the 7inch snow ... gonna make a big snowman today .. LOL laugh.gif
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QUOTE(LightningFist @ Nov 29 2010, 10:10 PM)
Since you attend Cambridge, don't you pay more (in comparison to other schools) because of the collegiate fees? How much is your annual tuition fee?

Critical courses are subsidised, but to an extent. If they (the tuition fees) are to increase (by as much as threefold), how can you be certain that engineering and medicine courses' tuition fees will face no change?

Also, how is mathematics a critical course? As far as I'm concerned the British government is prioritising funding for science, and though mathematics applies in both the physical sciences and social sciences, mathematics alone is not considered part of the better funded science category.
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QUOTE(Phonzy @ Dec 2 2010, 01:35 AM)
The fella that throw the shoe at Obama also hardly gotten anything la, prolly just a week's arrest. Chris Rock and all other 284392384923483 comedians in USA makes fun of their President every day in front of multitudes, and they all just laugh about it.

You try tell a joke to 5 people about our ruling government to a crowd of 10 in a public area and see...
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Apologies for the delayed reply. A break down of my fees are 14k for my course (Engineering) and 5k for college fees.

However for the college fee, I'm getting a weekly room cleaning, college formals (weekend dinner + wine) and free access to sports facilities. I pass these off as being fair since it would probably cost the same amount at other universities.

The British Parliment hasn't tabled the fee motion yet, but it's the consensus here that any subject under the science fee will continued to be subsidized.
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post Dec 3 2010, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(corad @ Dec 2 2010, 10:49 PM)
Apologies for the delayed reply. A break down of my fees are 14k for my course (Engineering) and 5k for college fees.

However for the college fee, I'm getting a weekly room cleaning, college formals (weekend dinner + wine) and free access to sports facilities. I pass these off as being fair since it would probably cost the same amount at other universities.

The British Parliment hasn't tabled the fee motion yet, but it's the consensus here that any subject under the science fee will continued to be subsidized.
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It's been more or less confirmed that the science budget (math included) will be 'protected' from the cuts, i.e. nominal funding will remain constant, but in real terms funding will fall due to inflation

It's also very likely, if not already certain that science & math subjects will also see the 3x fees rise for British/EU students. However, nothing has been said about fees rising for international students, as the universities themselves have always had the power to set fees for international students [and are unlikely to do a 3x rise, that'll disadvantage them significantly in the higher education market], but it appears likely that international students are going to have to pay more to offset the pretty savage cuts proposed (especially in the teaching and arts/humanities budget).

The bill for the raising of the cap for tuition fees will probably be tabled before Christmas, hence the large amount of protests by students to pressure the Lib Dems to kill this off (actually it's set next week!)

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post Dec 3 2010, 12:19 PM

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As it is, some schools' international students' fees increase by ~1000 pounds per year already, going up 7.2% from this year to 2011/2012. Others do and can increase by more.

The government is referring to sciences, but is less sympathetic towards mathematics in social sciences. Mathematics is kind of a science wherever you put it, but mathematics for/with/in economics, statistics, econometrics, possibly computing, financial engineering etc suffer when it comes to budgets. Of course many schools have the "critical" science, health, engineering, medicine etc so they get funding anyway.

@Corad you're right, because if someone was in London, the catered room rates would be close to 5000-6000 a year before the extra stuff you mentioned. But these are optional, and it's less for non-catered, and even less for outside London.
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QUOTE(LightningFist @ Dec 3 2010, 04:19 AM)
As it is, some schools' international students' fees increase by ~1000 pounds per year already, going up 7.2% from this year to 2011/2012. Others do and can increase by more.

The government is referring to sciences, but is less sympathetic towards mathematics in social sciences. Mathematics is kind of a science wherever you put it, but mathematics for/with/in economics, statistics, econometrics, possibly computing, financial engineering etc suffer when it comes to budgets. Of course many schools have the "critical" science, health, engineering, medicine etc so they get funding anyway.

@Corad you're right, because if someone was in London, the catered room rates would be close to 5000-6000 a year before the extra stuff you mentioned. But these are optional, and it's less for non-catered, and even less for outside London.
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Hm, I'm not sure whether it'll happen the way you speak of it. What'll probably happen is that most of the UK Research Councils in the humanities side will find themselves having (a lot!) less funds, and people doing multidisciplinary stuff involving some other fields which include the humanities will be less likely to get funding from those research councils. They could still apply for the science research council funding anyway. The government isn't going to be picking and choosing whether it'll cut which branch of the more applied maths, but it'll occur through the framework of the independent research councils, and no one knows what they'll do. The end effect is probably similar, but the way it occurs is likely to be quite different. I strongly doubt they will have much leverage to raise fees by much more, given that they're on track to be on par with many US public uni tuition fees pretty soon, if they're not already.

BTW, that ~1000 pound increase used to happen even in the good times, during my undergrad days tongue.gif

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post Dec 3 2010, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(bgeh @ Dec 3 2010, 07:25 PM)
Hm, I'm not sure whether it'll happen the way you speak of it. What'll probably happen is that most of the UK Research Councils in the humanities side will find themselves having (a lot!) less funds, and people doing multidisciplinary stuff involving some other fields which include the humanities will be less likely to get funding from those research councils. They could still apply for the science research council funding anyway. The government isn't going to be picking and choosing whether it'll cut which branch of the more applied maths, but it'll occur through the framework of the independent research councils, and no one knows what they'll do. The end effect is probably similar, but the way it occurs is likely to be quite different. I strongly doubt they will have much leverage to raise fees by much more, given that they're on track to be on par with many US public uni tuition fees pretty soon, if they're not already.

BTW, that ~1000 pound increase used to happen even in the good times, during my undergrad days tongue.gif
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An increase of 1000 pounds is a 7.2% increase (for me), I can't imagine what a 1000 pound increase meant to you when you were studying!

Imagine UK/EU students pay zero to 4000, increasing 1000 is 25% to infinity! Tripling is madness for some of them who really can't afford it.

Meanwhile we pay upwards of 10,000 pounds! Even the 13,000 pounds per annum course gives a huge total after 3/4 years!
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any1 study at university of wolverhampton - walsall campus. curious about the accomondation..

any1 going uk on this coming january intake??



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Hi! Im goin to further up my study in uk this upcoming january.. Staffordshire University. This is my 1st tym staying oversea.

I got 1 problem, i cant speak english well.. Is there any prob tht i need to be prepared of?
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QUOTE(h3alm3 @ Dec 4 2010, 09:09 PM)
Hi! Im goin to further up my study in uk this upcoming january.. Staffordshire University. This is my 1st tym staying oversea.

I got 1 problem, i cant speak english well.. Is there any prob tht i need to be prepared of?
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Well, that would obviously mean that you have to brush up your English as much as you can, after all UK is an english speaking country, duh.
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QUOTE(h3alm3 @ Dec 4 2010, 09:09 PM)
Hi! Im goin to further up my study in uk this upcoming january.. Staffordshire University. This is my 1st tym staying oversea.

I got 1 problem, i cant speak english well.. Is there any prob tht i need to be prepared of?
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the problem is kinda obvious. Your going to an English speaking country and you can't speak well.
Improve your English between now and then so you don't face problems when you have to face some stuff that utilizes some complicated wordings when your there.

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