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LightningFist
post Nov 19 2010, 01:59 PM

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If he gets a job which is right for him and is totally what he wants right after he graduates, then he is lucky.

If you are bonded but have to perform a job which is not what you have in mind, or does not follow your career aspirations, then you were lucky to get the scholarship, but you now have to either work for them for the better part of a decade doing something which does not contribute to your career, and which may not pay very well, or pay them back with interest and go into debt.
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post Nov 19 2010, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(phua1985 @ Nov 19 2010, 04:24 AM)
My brother has just finish his degree almost a year and he has been working for sime darby ever since he graduated as an account specialist......

Now and then he always seem to be ding dong around with his repetitive job in sime darby as our parents cannot afford to pay for him to further his education(Master Degree) in UK...

He told us that sime darby are giving full scholarship for tuition fees + accomadation + allowance to study oversea(UK) but the draw back is a bond up to 3 years - 6 years or more up to 10 years....so it was not a "yes" choice for him at all as he does not want to serve sime darby for so long.....

Can you guys give me any advice on financial/loans/scholaship to let him pursuit for his master in UK? or is there any other way at all?
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Well if he doesn't want the bond that comes with the scholarship then don't take it. It's as simple as that.

What kind of Masters Degree does he want to do? Why must it be in UK?
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post Nov 19 2010, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(Hikari0307 @ Nov 19 2010, 02:01 PM)
Well if he doesn't want the bond that comes with the scholarship then don't take it. It's as simple as that.

What kind of Masters Degree does he want to do? Why must it be in UK?
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He need a scholarship due to financial problem.....he don't want the bond because he wants to work in UK after he finished his Master.....

If sime darby is offering the scholarship like a loan but not bond i think he would have already consider it ....

Currently he has a BA hon accounting and finance from University of abertay dundee...

He wants to get master in finance for education route path to PHD but he wouldn't be thinking so far anymore because of financial budget.....he just want a MBA now....

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QUOTE(phua1985 @ Nov 19 2010, 02:29 PM)
He need a scholarship due to financial problem.....he don't want the bond because he wants to work in UK after he finished his Master.....

If sime darby is offering the scholarship like a loan but not bond i think he would have already consider it ....

Currently he has a BA hon accounting and finance from University of abertay dundee...

He wants to get master in finance for education route path to PHD but he wouldn't be thinking so far anymore because of financial budget.....he just want a MBA now....
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QUOTE(phua1985 @ Nov 19 2010, 04:24 AM)
My brother has just finish his degree almost a year and he has been working for sime darby ever since he graduated as an account specialist......
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Not much companies will give scholarships that doesn't come with a bond nowadays and especially for post graduate studies, most offer it so they can get quality workers and letting you go just like that afterward defeats the purpose of offering it. If so desperate go get a bank loan, but be ready to pay the interests and all which is not small.

How about looking at other European countries.
and it's not that easy to get a job in the UK nowadays.

I doubt he can get into any good MBA programmes with less then a year of work experience. Good business school's usually require at least 2 years of management related work experience. The ones that don't require work experience is just like doing some Masters in Management.

Why doesn't he just go and do some professional qualification and work towards becoming a CA or something. Not interested?


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post Nov 19 2010, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(Hikari0307 @ Nov 19 2010, 02:57 PM)
Not much companies will give scholarships that doesn't come with a bond nowadays and especially for post graduate studies, most offer it so they can get quality workers and letting you go just like that afterward defeats the purpose of offering it. If so desperate go get a bank loan, but be ready to pay the interests and all which is not small.

How about looking at other European countries.
and it's not that easy to get a job in the UK nowadays.

I doubt he can get into any good MBA programmes with less then a year of work experience. Good business school's usually require at least 2 years of management related work experience. The ones that don't require work experience is just like doing some Masters in Management.

Why doesn't he just go and do some professional qualification and work towards becoming a CA or something. Not interested?
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his company sponsor full tuition fee for ACCA ..... i "think" why he didn't take it up is because .....now he has already work for a year....and end of next year will be 2 years.....thats why he has started to talk about his master this past few days with me ....maybe he is preparing for it ....just the problem with $$$
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QUOTE(phua1985 @ Nov 19 2010, 03:09 PM)
his company sponsor full tuition fee for ACCA ..... i "think" why he didn't take it up is because .....now he has already work for a year....and end of next year will be 2 years.....thats why he has started to talk about his master this past few days with me ....maybe he is preparing for it ....just the problem with $$$
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I think after all those exemption, he could have gotten his ACCA within 3 years. So he is already half way to ACCA already so I don't understand the problem. Unless he just play around and do nothing in the past 1 1/2 yr?

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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Nov 19 2010, 03:35 PM)
I think after all those exemption, he could have gotten his ACCA within 3 years. So he is already half way to ACCA already so I don't understand the problem. Unless he just play around and do nothing in the past 1 1/2 yr?
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i calculated before ....after exemption i remember he left less than 7 papers to go for his ACCA only......i think i better advice him to finish up his ACCA before he even think about his master.....
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QUOTE(phua1985 @ Nov 19 2010, 03:40 PM)
i calculated before ....after exemption i remember he left less than 7 papers to go for his ACCA only......i think i better advice him to finish up his ACCA before he even think about his master.....
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There are people who like to study but not work. Is he one of those?

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post Nov 19 2010, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Nov 19 2010, 03:47 PM)
There are people who like to study but not work. Is he one of those?
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i am not sure about this...but he never complain about his work so far....but i know he is very good on his academic
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hey, do anyone of you roughly know when will the accommodation list for the unis will be out??...thx

ill b entering in jan and got my tickets and stuff all ready... only left with the pickup and accommodation selection....

anyone in nottingham???? =p
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post Nov 26 2010, 05:43 PM

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erm, im going to finish my a level next year.....and i got few question......:-

1)should i apply uni via ucas starting from now?

2) if i applied for mara loan, is it same like jpa? i mean they'll only give the loan on the 2nd year ker? plz help, im kinda confuse......
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post Nov 29 2010, 02:31 AM

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Hey guys,

I'm sure you all have heard about the fees increase. Will it affect students enrolling for the 2011 Sept Intake?
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post Nov 29 2010, 04:07 AM

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QUOTE(C-Note @ Nov 29 2010, 02:31 AM)
Hey guys,

I'm sure you all have heard about the fees increase. Will it affect students enrolling for the 2011 Sept Intake?
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If you don't already know, home students pay only ~3000 pounds per year, and those who can't afford this are either given bursaries or zero/low interest loans. International students pay anywhere from 9000 to 15000 pounds (and even more for medicine/dentistry and Oxbridge colleges) each year.

Fees increase every year (for us they can go up 1000 pounds, easily). The "fees increase" you're talking about is the raising of the fees cap for home students, so that they no longer pay from 0 to 4000 pounds. It's hard to say how much this will affect international students' fees.

Admissions could become affected by a number of factors:
- Major increase in home students' fees means more home students are admitted (relatively)
- Tighter immigrations rules and caps means fewer places for international students (coupled with strict quotas)
- Heavy budget cuts means fewer resources available to schools, and hence fewer places and/or pricier tuition fees
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post Nov 29 2010, 04:46 PM

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nobody want to answer my question ker? *sigh*
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post Nov 29 2010, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(LightningFist @ Nov 29 2010, 04:07 AM)
If you don't already know, home students pay only ~3000 pounds per year, and those who can't afford this are either given bursaries or zero/low interest loans. International students pay anywhere from 9000 to 15000 pounds (and even more for medicine/dentistry and Oxbridge colleges) each year.

Fees increase every year (for us they can go up 1000 pounds, easily). The "fees increase" you're talking about is the raising of the fees cap for home students, so that they no longer pay from 0 to 4000 pounds. It's hard to say how much this will affect international students' fees.

Admissions could become affected by a number of factors:
- Major increase in home students' fees means more home students are admitted (relatively)
- Tighter immigrations rules and caps means fewer places for international students (coupled with strict quotas)
- Heavy budget cuts means fewer resources available to schools, and hence fewer places and/or pricier tuition fees
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So that means if they increase threefolds, the same can be said for international students too?
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post Nov 29 2010, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(C-Note @ Nov 29 2010, 04:57 PM)
So that means if they increase threefolds, the same can be said for international students too?
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In my opinion the chances of increasing the tuition fees for international students threefold is quite unlikely, as we are already paying a lot. In fact, LightningFist have mentioned that our fees are increasing every year, so it might just increase every year as usual~
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post Nov 29 2010, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(singingshopaholic @ Nov 26 2010, 05:43 PM)
erm, im going to finish my a level next year.....and i got few question......:-

1)should i apply uni via ucas starting from now?

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What month are you receiving your A levels results?
Are you aware of the intake dates for your school?
Are you aware of the UCAS deadline for international student applications?
What courses are you applying for?
Are you applying to Oxbridge colleges?

Some of these need to be answered first.

QUOTE(C-Note @ Nov 29 2010, 04:57 PM)
So that means if they increase threefolds, the same can be said for international students too?
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Logic would tell you the possibility of that happening is next to impossible. How could 9000-15000 pounds increase to 27000-45000 pounds (we're talking undergrad degrees)?
Like I said, fees go up every year. If it is 14000 pounds for 2010/2011, and it is 15000-16000 pounds for 2011/2012, how far of an increase is this for you?
+5% = 14700 pounds, +10% = 15400 pounds.
On the other hand, though their proposed increase of 0-4000 to ~9000 is quite radical, it is not tens of thousands more.
I'm not sure about the status on its implementation. Some schools will qualify while others may not.






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post Nov 29 2010, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(LightningFist @ Nov 29 2010, 04:07 AM)
If you don't already know, home students pay only ~3000 pounds per year, and those who can't afford this are either given bursaries or zero/low interest loans. International students pay anywhere from 9000 to 15000 pounds (and even more for medicine/dentistry and Oxbridge colleges[cool.gif) each year.

Fees increase every year (for us they can go up 1000 pounds, easily). The "fees increase" you're talking about is the raising of the fees cap for home students, so that they no longer pay from 0 to 4000 pounds. It's hard to say how much this will affect international students' fees.

Admissions could become affected by a number of factors:
- Major increase in home students' fees means more home students are admitted (relatively)
- Tighter immigrations rules and caps means fewer places for international students (coupled with strict quotas)
- Heavy budget cuts means fewer resources available to schools, and hence fewer places and/or pricier tuition fees
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Umm ? I know my fee's are the same as most universities. Only Imperial charge higher fees than everyone else.


As for the local fee increase, critical courses will still be subsidized for local students. So engineers,doctors,mathmo's will face no change.






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QUOTE(corad @ Nov 29 2010, 09:42 PM)
Umm ? I know my fee's are the same as most universities. Only Imperial charge higher fees than everyone else.
As for the local fee increase, critical courses will still be subsidized for local students. So engineers,doctors,mathmo's will face no change.
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Since you attend Cambridge, don't you pay more (in comparison to other schools) because of the collegiate fees? How much is your annual tuition fee?

Critical courses are subsidised, but to an extent. If they (the tuition fees) are to increase (by as much as threefold), how can you be certain that engineering and medicine courses' tuition fees will face no change?

Also, how is mathematics a critical course? As far as I'm concerned the British government is prioritising funding for science, and though mathematics applies in both the physical sciences and social sciences, mathematics alone is not considered part of the better funded science category.
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[quote=LightningFist,Nov 29 2010, 05:49 PM]
What month are you receiving your A levels results?
Are you aware of the intake dates for your school?
Are you aware of the UCAS deadline for international student applications?
What courses are you applying for?
Are you applying to Oxbridge colleges?

i'll be finishing my a level in june, which means i'll get all of my result in august.....
most of the intakes are in septembers
the deadline 4 this september intake is in 15th january, so should i start applying it now, or just apply 4 2012 batch?
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nope, not gonna apply 4 oxford nor cambridge...just something like lse, kings, ucl, queens mary, etc....


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