1. I need to ask my friend who currently taking masters in accounting. Will reply in this thread when i asked her about it. Business seems to be a big department, majority of the international students who enrolled also going for business program.

2.I can't explain that much of things of you, i scare i might give you wrong information. :/ , im just taking bachelor top up. i think it's better if you go to the agent and ask in depth.

3. Before I apply for this uni, also done some research about this uni. They seems to have some problem previously, but one of the campus had reopen back few years ago,which is a campus for sports and leisure management actually. I'm studying in main campus, which is in Cheltenham city. From student's point of view, they don't seems to have any issues with that. And everything is okay. Overall it's considered as a small uni, as they are scattered into 4 campuses, 3 in Cheltenham, 1 in Gloucester.

Hi again. Got some questions in my mind that need an answer...

1. Is JPA worth loaning? I heard that if you loan from JPA you have to work for the government for 6 years HOLY !!!
And the salary is lower than average... Is that true?
Can someone elaborate this? I think I would be taking either Medicine, Business Management or Petroluem Engineering.

2. If I already had my A levels cert, do I have to take IELTS to enter UK universities ?

3. Why does international tuition fees is 3.x times higher than the normal tuition fees?

1. For JPA loans you do not have to work for the Government, you just have to pay it back. You can only take the loan after spending 1 year overseas and they will only help cover tuition fees up to 250k for critical courses (Med,Pharm & Dentistry) and up to 200k for others.
For JPA Scholarships, you do have to work for the government. How long depends on the course, 10 years for Medicine,Pharmacy and Dentistry. 7 Years for Engineering and so on.
If your doing either Medicine,Pharmacy and Dentistry you can not pay back the loan and opt to take the 10 year bond to the government. For other courses you don't have a bond choice, you have to pay back every cent. If you ever take any of the things stated do your job and do the bond or pay back the loans. If you are bonded work and if you took a loan please pay it back. Not doing so is morally equivalent to stealing.

2. generally yes, A-Levels is for you to pass the academic requirements while IELTS is needed for the English requirement

3. I'm not quite sure how much higher it is compared to local student tuition fees but international students pay more because you are paying the full fees. Local students there like those who study in IPTAs here in Malaysia only pay a small part of the fees while the remaining is subsidized by the government.

because 'normal' fees (ie local home students fees) is subsidised by the british government........there was a time in the past when local students paid no fees.......the 'normal' fees will likely increase as the gov cuts back on subsidy.......

in the distant past (your parents time) international students also pay no or little fees, through the generosity of the british tax payers.........

Thanks alot !! 10 years and 7 years is way too long... So JPA only provide loan for spending 1 year overseas...
Are there any scholarships that can cover your first year tuition fees?
My plan is I take the scholarship to cover my first year, then I take the JPA loan for my second year and so on...
If there is scholarship I will definitely take it .

Oh I see, thanks alot !! =D

Mistercrono,

So, you said are doing bachelor top-up, right? Does it mean you have a previous diploma or something? I heard a top-up is better than a pre-masters, should you decide to do masters later on. I donot know if that's correct or not.

The pre-masters and top-up is something that is not yet available in Malaysian local Unis.

Will wait for your friend's feedback for the Masters in Accounting.

That's fast! I haven't even plan for christmas. Mind to share a small place for me? Lol

I think I will be going too, got some old friends over at notts. Where u staying then? Is there anything to do in the night?

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Added on November 3, 2010, 6:38 ambtw bala, wats there in notts other can competition? can join solo? .. hahaha
any food? chicks? ...

This post has been edited by alvinz: Nov 3 2010, 06:38 AM

What generosity are you talking about?

During colonial time, the British came here not for charity work but to take our wealth back to UK. In other word, they came to take your grandpa's money back to UK. Now you, the grandson, simply go there to take some back. I suggest people open their eyes and read history with an open mind and make own conclusion. If you read history written by the British, what do you expect?

Those "grandson"'s were those who went to the UK in the 1970's. The days of subsidized education are dwindling even for local students, and all but gone for international students (save for a few European/Scandinavian states)

Its been 50 years. Can we move on from the past instead of sounding like a stuck record? So the British took much of the resources, but they also set up much of the institutions that Malaysia is part off today. Like the language this is written in.

For all the flaws of colonialism, it could have been worst.

i think one has to look at each event in history with it's own merits, while recognising that they do influence each other.........

colonisation is a historical event, and indeed much resources was siphoned off by the colonising masters........this practice has always happened in the past, in various guises, either conquering or colonisation..........

provisions of free education to people of other nations is another historical event, and indeed drains on the generosity of the tax payers.........it is salient because they NEED NOT have to do so.........so it is to the credit of the developed commonwealth countries that they willingly do so, to help develop and ready the indigenous people of the newly independent ex-colonies to assume administrative responsibilities......that contrast jarringly with how historically, many other conquered/colonised countries part with their ex-masters..........

it has nothing to do with who writes history and their bias.....is the way msian history is written according the umno any different?.......it's about understanding events in the past, and coming to your own conclusions......there is no dispute that uk/oz/canada/nz need NOT provide free education to the ex-colonies........but they did......there was no legal compulsion......but there was moral compulsion......and due credit should be given to them for following their moral inclinations......

how these ex-colonies managed their own affairs is another story, and not a few people in many ex-colonies actually wish for the 'good old days' under the well administered british colonial service......

If the word "generosity" has not been started, I would not have counter with the word "colonization".

In other word, I am not the thread starter.

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Added on November 3, 2010, 9:35 amTry telling that to the South and North American Indian.


This post has been edited by Optiplex330: Nov 3 2010, 09:35 AM

they were generous.......what else would you call it?......of course that generosity may have been provoked by guilt......but at least they acted on their guilt......they didn't have to.....

Yes, they didn't have to. And neither should we feel guilty for accepting their money. That was my point.

haya was referring to the msian context.......ie the effects and residual of british colonialism in msia.....

and exactly, if one compares with the americas experience, we should be thankful, rather than bitter and spiteful.........

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Added on November 3, 2010, 10:13 ami didn't say anything about gulity.....

please don't confuse gratefulness with guilt......

This post has been edited by limeuu: Nov 3 2010, 10:46 AM

I think we gone too far from the topic.............................

please read carefully before replying..........

erm..a little bit confused here,we can take JPA loan up to how many years?if like doing twinning programme which is in 1+2 system,can i take up the loan to cover 2 years of tuition fees for my overseas study?

The loan is for the remaining duration of the course up to a maximum of 200k for normal courses and 250k for Medicine,Pharmacy and Dentistry only for tuition fees nothing else.
JPA loans can only be taken AFTER you have spent one year overseas for pre-u leavers or 1 semester overseas for Diploma leavers.
If you do a 1+2 twinning program you can only take the loan in your final year since you need to spend 1 year overseas first.

What if I am a JPA scholar? The condition is I need to work for government 7 years after I have graduate?