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post Sep 13 2010, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Sep 13 2010, 05:26 PM)
It is a miracle that Liverpool didn't lose, with such lousy performance!
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If not Reina, it was another 3-0. wink.gif

I am a bit surprise, RH didn't use Ngog, Babel or Pacheco for more offensive.
May be just like the manager said, he was ok with the draw. wink.gif
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Sep 13 2010, 04:33 PM)
Gerrard still need to play at midfield. Put Pacheco, Ngog or Babel to pair with Torres.

With Lucas-Poulsen combinatin, there is no one to control the midfield area, and create passes. Torres + Gerrard combination has lose the spark initially season back. Opponent knows how to play and deal with this strategy already, just cut off the midfield supply, nothing can be done by both of them.

Liv plays better after Lucas being subbed and Gerrard shifted back to the midfield.
Somebody need to take control the midfield area.
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post Sep 13 2010, 06:07 PM

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this may sound redundant, but since alonso left, there isn't any players who can take control of the midfield and stamp their authority. gerrard can do that, but at the same time he can't be the one dominating midfield and creating chances while being at the receiving end himself.

lucas is not a versatile player, he's good without the ball. can't do much when he receives it. and now poulsen looks like he's a player with the same quality. masch, before he left, is also a defensive midfielder who excels in winning tackles rather than spotting opportunistic passes.

aquilani last season was more like a player with good feet and composure, but he too lacked the vision and ability to carve chances from nothing. and a bit too flimsy to play in the middle anyway.

benayoun was good with dribbles and runs, but is also not the type with good vision and strong passing ability.

in all the matches so far, we are losing the midfield battle and normally we'll see us gaining some possession when gerrard drops back, but when that happens most of the time torres will be isolated up front because lucas and poulsen aren't daring enough to dart into the box.

up until today we haven't seen the team gel and play in a formation we're accustomed to. i'd like to see how the team plays with gerrard sitting back in front of the back four winning tackles and spraying passes, cole taking over gerrard's attacking midfield role and meireles running from box to box.
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post Sep 13 2010, 07:01 PM

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it about 10million time we said Gerrard must go back to midfield...is it our forum only saying that or another International forum keep saying the same thing? and as a Manager, didn't he notice this things?
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post Sep 13 2010, 07:19 PM

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we didn't have any more strikers (firepower) if gerrard doesn't go forward. i know you're gonna throw in ngog, babel, pacheco or nemeth but too bad i think i rather have gerrard forward than any of them to go siding torres. I bet RH knows about getting a striker to balance the offense, but too bad we can't get it during the transfer market. I think you guys still remember that he tried to get 1 last striker before the transfer market ends but unable to offload babel to make up the fees.
don't be too impatient with the games, konchesky and raul just had their first game with the team and we've been playing against arsenal and manchester city early this season. I still believe RH can rectify the few problems that rafa couldn't and maybe we'll achieve something this season.
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not sure what im gonna say but yesterday i only watched 1st half.

maybe too bored or myself too tired after balik kampung.

from my point of view, i think johnson need to get rid of his hairstyle. this fellow start to annoy me whenever the ball get to his feet bcoz he keeps loosing the ball.

and lucas, im not sure why he still play with liverpool this season. i cant blame poulsen coz so far i think he's quite decent but maybe lucas influence the way he played yesterday.

plus i think liverpool concentrate more on the centre attacking rather than play wide. i can see torres struggle to get the ball from the midfielder bcoz the defend is too strong.

hopefully, with j cole present, we can beat Manu on away game and meireles shud be starting XI.








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jovanovic pretty much shit.. dunno why ppl sayin him world class.. even acting is failed.. shouting alone ??? WTF???

better keep riera
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QUOTE(livingmonolith @ Sep 13 2010, 06:07 PM)
this may sound redundant, but since alonso left, there isn't any players who can take control of the midfield and stamp their authority. gerrard can do that, but at the same time he can't be the one dominating midfield and creating chances while being at the receiving end himself.

lucas is not a versatile player, he's good without the ball. can't do much when he receives it. and now poulsen looks like he's a player with the same quality. masch, before he left, is also a defensive midfielder who excels in winning tackles rather than spotting opportunistic passes.

aquilani last season was more like a player with good feet and composure, but he too lacked the vision and ability to carve chances from nothing. and a bit too flimsy to play in the middle anyway.

benayoun was good with dribbles and runs, but is also not the type with good vision and strong passing ability.

in all the matches so far, we are losing the midfield battle and normally we'll see us gaining some possession when gerrard drops back, but when that happens most of the time torres will be isolated up front because lucas and poulsen aren't daring enough to dart into the box.

up until today we haven't seen the team gel and play in a formation we're accustomed to. i'd like to see how the team plays with gerrard sitting back in front of the back four winning tackles and spraying passes, cole taking over gerrard's attacking midfield role and meireles running from box to box.
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It's no longer 2005 you know, age is fast catching up with Gerrard and you can no longer rely on him as the sole DM. Rather than putting the responsibility solely on the CM, I would like to see the team as a whole work together as a unit. At the moment, everybody is doing their own things. Defenders hoof when they want to, CMs win the ball and that passes sidewards/backwards, and attacking players waiting as if the ball would magically drop into space. It's like we're still stuck in the Alonso hangover.

Things won't magically improve even if you put Gerrard in the midfield, as long as there is lack of movement and possession retention, we'll still end up like yesterday. I think that, is our key problem.
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QUOTE(Flamex1992 @ Sep 13 2010, 07:52 PM)
jovanovic pretty much shit.. dunno why ppl sayin him world class.. even acting is failed.. shouting alone ??? WTF???

better keep riera
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wat can u expect from a free player who playing in a crap league for most of his time?? rolleyes.gif

i still think RH wuldnt feel ok until joe cole suspension is over.. guess j.cole is his saviour.. no wonder to judge him after 10 games
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QUOTE(mr_nobigdeal @ Sep 13 2010, 08:45 PM)
hopefully, with j cole present, we can beat Manu on away game and meireles shud be starting XI.
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ManU was 3-1 ahead agasint Everton (MU seems to score easily) in 90mins, only to lose concentration to go 3-3.

LFc was struggling 0-0 with birmingham in 90min (we had to thank riena for 3 super saves).

I'm praying we at least do a decent fight (away?) & not go down tamely like against Man City (at home!! mad.gif ).

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I AM SURE

after 20 games wif Liverpool, RH will be able to create a formidable Midfield again, juz give him more time....

remembered during the times of Houllier, we hav the best MF, juz tat we dun hav Torres at time, and we still managed to won 6 Thropies , icon_rolleyes.gif
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i think gerrard must go back to midfield along with raul. cole will play behind torres or maybe shift to the left and babel can play alongside with torres.

maybe we could try babel in front of the attacking force and torres just shadowing him. maybe this will create the gap which they will mark torres more than babel and babel can score.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Sep 13 2010, 04:33 PM)
Gerrard still need to play at midfield. Put Pacheco, Ngog or Babel to pair with Torres.

With Lucas-Poulsen combinatin, there is no one to control the midfield area, and create passes. Torres + Gerrard combination has lose the spark initially season back. Opponent knows how to play and deal with this strategy already, just cut off the midfield supply, nothing can be done by both of them.

Liv plays better after Lucas being subbed and Gerrard shifted back to the midfield.
Somebody need to take control the midfield area.
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Nono, should put it in this way...
Liverpool plays better when Raul Meireles comes in... laugh.gif


QUOTE(Flamex1992 @ Sep 13 2010, 07:52 PM)
jovanovic pretty much shit.. dunno why ppl sayin him world class.. even acting is failed.. shouting alone ??? WTF???

better keep riera
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Who are those ppl saying him world class?
If he is not in that level, i would say he is a decent forward...


Added on September 13, 2010, 8:33 pm
QUOTE(CrossFirE @ Sep 13 2010, 08:24 PM)
i think gerrard must go back to midfield along with raul. cole will play behind torres or maybe shift to the left and babel can play alongside with torres.

maybe we could try babel in front of the attacking force and torres just shadowing him. maybe this will create the gap which they will mark torres more than babel and babel can score.
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Is below a good statement?
Joe Cole is vital for us now... At least the flair and creativity is there..

This post has been edited by jason18689: Sep 13 2010, 08:33 PM
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QUOTE(digilife @ Sep 13 2010, 08:16 PM)
I AM SURE

after 20 games wif Liverpool, RH will be able to create a formidable Midfield again, juz give him more time....

remembered during the times of Houllier, we hav the best MF, juz tat we dun hav Torres at time,  and we still managed to won 6 Thropies , icon_rolleyes.gif
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By the time we finished the 20th game, we are somewhere top3-4 from the bottom of the league.

Stars are probably leaving.So, what's the point of being able to form a formidable midfield when you have to restart from scratch because your stars are leaving?
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Sep 13 2010, 08:37 PM)
By the time we finished the 20th game, we are somewhere top3-4 from the bottom of the league.

Stars are probably leaving.So, what's the point of being able to form a formidable midfield when you have to restart from scratch because your stars are leaving?
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dun worry we wont be tat Bad, juz be positive

pray hard once we beat MU, later this wk, all would be fine

the BIG thing missing in our game now is the MORALE and CONFIDENCE, look at our passing, its like school boys blind shooting at times, damn sien watching them , but remember we will hav Cole against MU later this wk, Mierles should start , Poulsen should be rested, Hope tat Konchesky can start against MU
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i hope RH will make early subs than last nite..
subs 7xmin is quite late

blackpool is currently 4th place now.. hope we can up asap
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Hello Liverpool Fans,

Please be informed that there is a Large Screen Live Screening organized by ESPN HD.

Event: Manchester United vs Liverpool
Venue: Connection Street, Pavilion KL (Starbucks/Coffee Bean/Michelangelo')
Time: 12.00pm - 8.00pm (Event) / 8.30pm - late (Live Screening)
Date: 19th Sept 2010 (Sunday)

See you there!
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QUOTE(Flamex1992 @ Sep 13 2010, 07:52 PM)
jovanovic pretty much shit.. dunno why ppl sayin him world class.. even acting is failed.. shouting alone ??? WTF???

better keep riera
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He was our most positive player on the field yesterday. How was he shit? If he's shit, i wonder whats the state of all the rest, worse than shit ?
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After Joe Cole and Kuyt back hope Liverpool can play more decent football. It's ok if you draw Birmingham at home but Liverpool only created 1 good chance and it come from Torres solo effort.

Kuyt---Meireles---Poulsen---Gerrard---Joe Cole

----------------------Torres----------------------

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