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English Clubs Liverpool Football Club- The Kop Talks 2010, Do Your Part, Save The Club!

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post Aug 25 2010, 12:50 PM

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Hate to say this but basing on the personnel + rumbling on the board + financial state of the club + to a certain extend tactical nous of RH, only a miracle can take us to CL next season, best bet is Europa & we'll lose the brightest jewels we have. Reality bites wink.gif
Now its a wonder if we're not sucked into administration & forced into selling all stars. Come next season, most likely we'll start over again in smaller scale. Those dreaming of star signings should have reality checks, not when those cowboys still at helms shakehead.gif
Most still in denial that the club is in deeper shit than it seems. Even if there's new owner coming in, the rebuilding process will take a few years which seems to go on forever since King Kenny left.
I still think RH is not a long term solution rather a stop gap measure. Its to his credit that he's able to stabilize the ship but clearly, he's not the one to steer us to calm waters. Oh well, who in the right frame of his mind would want to come in the club at these trying times doh.gif

It'll be Souness era once more cry.gif

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post Aug 28 2010, 02:11 PM

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No doubt Masch is highly committed to us when he was here, but somehow his way of forcing a transfer put a bitter taste in the mouth.
There's always 2 sides of coin. While its well known, that he already informed of his wish to leave, he still has a contract to honour. If everyone in contract acting as he is, what will becomes of the club that give him the contract. I'm not questioning his "family reason" but as everyone knows footballers can be a fickle bunch, read C Ronalda "im a modern slave comment" to force through a move.
That said, even if he did gave us another season, problem is the interest of the one who paid his transfer fee & wages have to be taken into account which id LIVERPOOL FC have to be met for transfer to materialised. Previously Inter & barca offer a derisory figure, so u lot expect the club to let him go just because of his personal problem. What if barca offer ZERO fee, should we let him go on humanitary ground? Its not the club fault for no other clubs come in with acceptable figure so why sit out to victimised the club that pay ur wages? its not like the club threaten others who dare put in a bid.
To put it into perspective, if u signed a contract with a company with good pay yet u wanna get out of the contract, the only way is to pay compensation, thats the way it is. Do u try to forced the company to rescind your contract by not turning up to work? No difference from what the club wants. The way to avoid this is to signed short term contract but players want security hence they signed long term, by signing it, Im sure their agents go thru everthing in the contract.
Everything has a risk, incld "Family matters", so why signed for foreign clubs when you dunno whether you can settled? by signing means u willing to take the risk or why not buy out your own contract. Players want everything things go their ways, thats the problem. In short they want good pay with escape clauses, which is sadly too unfair to a club.
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post Sep 2 2010, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(vreis @ Aug 28 2010, 02:11 PM)
No doubt Masch is highly committed to us when he was here, but somehow his way of forcing a transfer put a bitter taste in the mouth.
There's always 2 sides of coin. While its well known, that he already informed of his wish to leave, he still has a contract to honour. If everyone in contract acting as he is, what will becomes of the club that give him the contract. I'm not questioning his "family reason" but as everyone knows footballers can be a fickle bunch, read C Ronalda "im a modern slave comment" to force through a move.
That said, even if he did gave us another season, problem is the interest of the one who paid his transfer fee & wages have to be taken into account which id LIVERPOOL FC have to be met for transfer to materialised. Previously Inter & barca offer a derisory figure, so u lot expect the club to let him go just because of his personal problem. What if barca offer ZERO fee, should we let him go on humanitary ground? Its not the club fault for no other clubs come in with acceptable figure so why sit out to victimised the club that pay ur wages? its not like the club threaten others who dare put in a bid.
To put it into perspective, if u signed a contract with a company with good pay yet u wanna get out of the contract, the only way is to pay compensation, thats the way it is. Do u try to forced the company to rescind your contract by not turning up to work? No difference from what the club wants. The way to avoid this is to signed short term contract but players want security hence they signed long term, by signing it, Im sure their agents go thru everthing in the contract.
Everything has a risk, incld "Family matters", so why signed for foreign clubs when you dunno whether you can settled? by signing means u willing to take the risk or why not buy out your own contract. Players want everything things go their ways, thats the problem. In short they want good pay with escape clauses, which is sadly too unfair to a club.
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Think I understand rushmode sentiment which I shared.
Btw the way the more each side open mouth, the bitter it becomes.


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post Sep 13 2010, 09:20 PM

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post Sep 23 2010, 12:24 PM

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Woy to be the shortest reigned manager in Reds' history, anyone??? whistling.gif
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post Sep 23 2010, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(cksoon @ Sep 23 2010, 02:09 PM)
honestly, i've never in favor of RH to come in, when the odds are up, i was hoping king kenny instead of RH and now that it seems really disastrous and the manager that i would really like now is martin o neil, i mean, look at his record, and i feel he will be a prudent coach to us.

of coz, before anything else, change the OWNERS!!! damn, gillett, hicks.. they are really like shavers!!! grrrr...
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my sentiment exactly, I would expect King Kenny to be a better choice than Woy. I mean everyone knew how bad shape the club is in. Irregardless, King Kenny pitch his name in though it may sully his rep (highly doubt so) in case things go wrong. Ppl may say his time are passed and all but I didn't see anything worse than appointing him.
furthermore Woy is just a traditional English coach that favours 4-4-2 & long ball. His time in Inter is just disastrous given the resources he had at his disposal. To say he is tactically astute is actually an insult to King Kenny
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post Sep 23 2010, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(lilredridinghood @ Sep 23 2010, 04:28 PM)
The funny thing is that I have always been that way as well, and I am surprised by my lack of confidence towards Roy, oh well....
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I believe most of us thinks the same way...RH??? No thanks would be my answer....
There's no way any worthy Reds manager will take that quietly...thats why as some said, RB ALWAYS defends Liverpool name, not only RB but any decent self respecting Reds manager.
Shankly will have turn in his grave seeing a Reds manager don't retort being oppress like that


QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Sep 23 2010, 04:29 PM)
haiz.. northampton at anfield pun kalah... we're becoming a mid-table side... sadly...

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midtable??? its a freaking League 2 teams...all PL teams will now fancy having a go at us.
to think that 2 seasons ago, the aura of teams shuddering when meeting us was cultivated by RB.

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