thanks bart simpsons. So long, man u!
English Clubs Liverpool Football Club- The Kop Talks 2010, Do Your Part, Save The Club!
English Clubs Liverpool Football Club- The Kop Talks 2010, Do Your Part, Save The Club!
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Sep 13 2010, 03:05 PM
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thanks bart simpsons. So long, man u!
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Sep 13 2010, 03:49 PM
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QUOTE(B@rt @ Sep 13 2010, 02:58 PM) I think you guys had some tough luck with the EPL schedule this season. Unlike Chelsea who played lower half and newly promoted teams like WBA, Wigan, SC, WH and this week Blackpool, you guys had to play Arsenal, Man City, Birmingham (who ended last season in the top half of the table) and this week Man Utd. Thanks bart. He's got a point here, we have rather difficult matches earlier in the season which isn't kind to our new managers and players cause they need time to settle down especially after a tiring World Cup. Most important is to rack up as much points as we can, you can't expect our rebuilding phase Liverpool to come out with many wins away from home. Cheer up and pray hard that you guys beat Man Utd. I'm supporting Liverpool this week as well! And about our scrappy 1-0 win against WBA, its ok. I remember Man U's title winning season 2 years ago when we got 2nd, they was pretty scrappy as well. They were outplayed in a quite a number of matches but they manage to scrap a 1-0 or 2-1 victory against lesser teams. Whereas us, we dominated quite a lot of matches, but still come out short in the end. I'm happy not to lose to Birmingham the 2nd best defensive team in the league and let's move on and try to kick their butts when they come over to Anfield. |
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Sep 13 2010, 04:33 PM
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Gerrard still need to play at midfield. Put Pacheco, Ngog or Babel to pair with Torres.
With Lucas-Poulsen combinatin, there is no one to control the midfield area, and create passes. Torres + Gerrard combination has lose the spark initially season back. Opponent knows how to play and deal with this strategy already, just cut off the midfield supply, nothing can be done by both of them. Liv plays better after Lucas being subbed and Gerrard shifted back to the midfield. Somebody need to take control the midfield area. |
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Sep 13 2010, 05:26 PM
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It is a miracle that Liverpool didn't lose, with such lousy performance!
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Sep 13 2010, 05:54 PM
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Sep 13 2010, 05:59 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Sep 13 2010, 04:33 PM) Gerrard still need to play at midfield. Put Pacheco, Ngog or Babel to pair with Torres. I shared your viewWith Lucas-Poulsen combinatin, there is no one to control the midfield area, and create passes. Torres + Gerrard combination has lose the spark initially season back. Opponent knows how to play and deal with this strategy already, just cut off the midfield supply, nothing can be done by both of them. Liv plays better after Lucas being subbed and Gerrard shifted back to the midfield. Somebody need to take control the midfield area. |
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Sep 13 2010, 06:07 PM
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this may sound redundant, but since alonso left, there isn't any players who can take control of the midfield and stamp their authority. gerrard can do that, but at the same time he can't be the one dominating midfield and creating chances while being at the receiving end himself.
lucas is not a versatile player, he's good without the ball. can't do much when he receives it. and now poulsen looks like he's a player with the same quality. masch, before he left, is also a defensive midfielder who excels in winning tackles rather than spotting opportunistic passes. aquilani last season was more like a player with good feet and composure, but he too lacked the vision and ability to carve chances from nothing. and a bit too flimsy to play in the middle anyway. benayoun was good with dribbles and runs, but is also not the type with good vision and strong passing ability. in all the matches so far, we are losing the midfield battle and normally we'll see us gaining some possession when gerrard drops back, but when that happens most of the time torres will be isolated up front because lucas and poulsen aren't daring enough to dart into the box. up until today we haven't seen the team gel and play in a formation we're accustomed to. i'd like to see how the team plays with gerrard sitting back in front of the back four winning tackles and spraying passes, cole taking over gerrard's attacking midfield role and meireles running from box to box. |
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Sep 13 2010, 07:01 PM
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it about 10million time we said Gerrard must go back to midfield...is it our forum only saying that or another International forum keep saying the same thing? and as a Manager, didn't he notice this things?
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Sep 13 2010, 07:19 PM
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we didn't have any more strikers (firepower) if gerrard doesn't go forward. i know you're gonna throw in ngog, babel, pacheco or nemeth but too bad i think i rather have gerrard forward than any of them to go siding torres. I bet RH knows about getting a striker to balance the offense, but too bad we can't get it during the transfer market. I think you guys still remember that he tried to get 1 last striker before the transfer market ends but unable to offload babel to make up the fees.
don't be too impatient with the games, konchesky and raul just had their first game with the team and we've been playing against arsenal and manchester city early this season. I still believe RH can rectify the few problems that rafa couldn't and maybe we'll achieve something this season. |
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Sep 13 2010, 07:45 PM
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not sure what im gonna say but yesterday i only watched 1st half.
maybe too bored or myself too tired after balik kampung. from my point of view, i think johnson need to get rid of his hairstyle. this fellow start to annoy me whenever the ball get to his feet bcoz he keeps loosing the ball. and lucas, im not sure why he still play with liverpool this season. i cant blame poulsen coz so far i think he's quite decent but maybe lucas influence the way he played yesterday. plus i think liverpool concentrate more on the centre attacking rather than play wide. i can see torres struggle to get the ball from the midfielder bcoz the defend is too strong. hopefully, with j cole present, we can beat Manu on away game and meireles shud be starting XI. |
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Sep 13 2010, 07:52 PM
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jovanovic pretty much shit.. dunno why ppl sayin him world class.. even acting is failed.. shouting alone ??? WTF???
better keep riera |
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Sep 13 2010, 07:53 PM
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QUOTE(livingmonolith @ Sep 13 2010, 06:07 PM) this may sound redundant, but since alonso left, there isn't any players who can take control of the midfield and stamp their authority. gerrard can do that, but at the same time he can't be the one dominating midfield and creating chances while being at the receiving end himself. It's no longer 2005 you know, age is fast catching up with Gerrard and you can no longer rely on him as the sole DM. Rather than putting the responsibility solely on the CM, I would like to see the team as a whole work together as a unit. At the moment, everybody is doing their own things. Defenders hoof when they want to, CMs win the ball and that passes sidewards/backwards, and attacking players waiting as if the ball would magically drop into space. It's like we're still stuck in the Alonso hangover.lucas is not a versatile player, he's good without the ball. can't do much when he receives it. and now poulsen looks like he's a player with the same quality. masch, before he left, is also a defensive midfielder who excels in winning tackles rather than spotting opportunistic passes. aquilani last season was more like a player with good feet and composure, but he too lacked the vision and ability to carve chances from nothing. and a bit too flimsy to play in the middle anyway. benayoun was good with dribbles and runs, but is also not the type with good vision and strong passing ability. in all the matches so far, we are losing the midfield battle and normally we'll see us gaining some possession when gerrard drops back, but when that happens most of the time torres will be isolated up front because lucas and poulsen aren't daring enough to dart into the box. up until today we haven't seen the team gel and play in a formation we're accustomed to. i'd like to see how the team plays with gerrard sitting back in front of the back four winning tackles and spraying passes, cole taking over gerrard's attacking midfield role and meireles running from box to box. Things won't magically improve even if you put Gerrard in the midfield, as long as there is lack of movement and possession retention, we'll still end up like yesterday. I think that, is our key problem. |
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Sep 13 2010, 07:59 PM
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QUOTE(Flamex1992 @ Sep 13 2010, 07:52 PM) jovanovic pretty much shit.. dunno why ppl sayin him world class.. even acting is failed.. shouting alone ??? WTF??? wat can u expect from a free player who playing in a crap league for most of his time?? better keep riera i still think RH wuldnt feel ok until joe cole suspension is over.. guess j.cole is his saviour.. no wonder to judge him after 10 games |
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Sep 13 2010, 08:01 PM
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QUOTE(mr_nobigdeal @ Sep 13 2010, 08:45 PM) ManU was 3-1 ahead agasint Everton (MU seems to score easily) in 90mins, only to lose concentration to go 3-3.LFc was struggling 0-0 with birmingham in 90min (we had to thank riena for 3 super saves). I'm praying we at least do a decent fight (away?) & not go down tamely like against Man City (at home!! |
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Sep 13 2010, 08:16 PM
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I AM SURE
after 20 games wif Liverpool, RH will be able to create a formidable Midfield again, juz give him more time.... remembered during the times of Houllier, we hav the best MF, juz tat we dun hav Torres at time, and we still managed to won 6 Thropies , |
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Sep 13 2010, 08:24 PM
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i think gerrard must go back to midfield along with raul. cole will play behind torres or maybe shift to the left and babel can play alongside with torres.
maybe we could try babel in front of the attacking force and torres just shadowing him. maybe this will create the gap which they will mark torres more than babel and babel can score. |
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Sep 13 2010, 08:32 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Sep 13 2010, 04:33 PM) Gerrard still need to play at midfield. Put Pacheco, Ngog or Babel to pair with Torres. Nono, should put it in this way...With Lucas-Poulsen combinatin, there is no one to control the midfield area, and create passes. Torres + Gerrard combination has lose the spark initially season back. Opponent knows how to play and deal with this strategy already, just cut off the midfield supply, nothing can be done by both of them. Liv plays better after Lucas being subbed and Gerrard shifted back to the midfield. Somebody need to take control the midfield area. Liverpool plays better when Raul Meireles comes in... QUOTE(Flamex1992 @ Sep 13 2010, 07:52 PM) jovanovic pretty much shit.. dunno why ppl sayin him world class.. even acting is failed.. shouting alone ??? WTF??? Who are those ppl saying him world class?better keep riera If he is not in that level, i would say he is a decent forward... Added on September 13, 2010, 8:33 pm QUOTE(CrossFirE @ Sep 13 2010, 08:24 PM) i think gerrard must go back to midfield along with raul. cole will play behind torres or maybe shift to the left and babel can play alongside with torres. Is below a good statement?maybe we could try babel in front of the attacking force and torres just shadowing him. maybe this will create the gap which they will mark torres more than babel and babel can score. Joe Cole is vital for us now... At least the flair and creativity is there.. This post has been edited by jason18689: Sep 13 2010, 08:33 PM |
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Sep 13 2010, 08:37 PM
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QUOTE(digilife @ Sep 13 2010, 08:16 PM) I AM SURE By the time we finished the 20th game, we are somewhere top3-4 from the bottom of the league.after 20 games wif Liverpool, RH will be able to create a formidable Midfield again, juz give him more time.... remembered during the times of Houllier, we hav the best MF, juz tat we dun hav Torres at time, and we still managed to won 6 Thropies , Stars are probably leaving.So, what's the point of being able to form a formidable midfield when you have to restart from scratch because your stars are leaving? |
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Sep 13 2010, 08:47 PM
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Sep 13 2010, 08:37 PM) By the time we finished the 20th game, we are somewhere top3-4 from the bottom of the league. dun worry we wont be tat Bad, juz be positiveStars are probably leaving.So, what's the point of being able to form a formidable midfield when you have to restart from scratch because your stars are leaving? pray hard once we beat MU, later this wk, all would be fine the BIG thing missing in our game now is the MORALE and CONFIDENCE, look at our passing, its like school boys blind shooting at times, damn sien watching them , but remember we will hav Cole against MU later this wk, Mierles should start , Poulsen should be rested, Hope tat Konchesky can start against MU |
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Sep 13 2010, 09:20 PM
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