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 PROTON SAGA BLMCLUB V11, version eleven

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post Jan 26 2011, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(ayieazz @ Jan 26 2011, 10:17 AM)
lazy to calculate fc already tongue.gif  my foot is heavy..my sport rim also heavy sweat.gif  hahaha
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I know what you mean. After all that hard work, rev one time all gone. laugh.gif

Summore yours the rims ... sweat.gif
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post Jan 26 2011, 11:03 AM

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o ya, before I get my new car. I wanna ask you pros here. Is there anything i need to purchase for my engine performance. I just purchased the roadtax stickers and the holder. Thanks.

(P/S: Only for performance and caretaking stuff, not those beutify accesseries like sport rim etc. nod.gif )
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QUOTE(sonotme @ Jan 26 2011, 12:26 AM)
yupp.. watch ur right foot  smile.gif
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QUOTE(claxxion @ Jan 26 2011, 02:04 AM)
Our campro engines are thirsty engines, gearshifts needed to be done with the correct RPM, and a light foot is needed in order to achieve better FC. Mine auto, on average normal usage I get 320km for RM50. Full highway drive under the speed limit I get 413kms on a full tank, my record. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Jan 26 2011, 08:15 AM)
From ur car FC figure, for sure ur is Auto tranny...


Added on January 26, 2011, 8:18 am

I guess ur also.

Don't dream about 13km/l for auto tranny in city drive. Mine manual always hit that number.
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QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ Jan 26 2011, 10:08 AM)
a) First 1000, the mileage is inaccurate. Mileage will improve as your engine settles in.

b) Your calculation methods should be the following:-
1) Pump full tank and reset mileage counter to zero.
2) Drive like normal until next refill.
3) Pump full tank again.
4) Make note of how much you pump and how much mileage you travelled.
5) Reset your counter again and repeat the above steps at least 3 times to get an average. The more the better.

Use those figures you noted to calculate the FC.

So far, manual cars seem to be able to get 11 - 13++ km/l. Auto trannies can get around 9 - 11++ km/l. Depends on traffic conditions and driving style. If you're heavy footed in a jam, sorry lar, you'll never get good FC. And I can tell you, this car is very very thirsty in a jam.

Personally, I drive through hell everyday and occassionally go menggila, I can get around +-10km/l. I've noticed vast improvement since I toned down my driving.
Your FC is damn good, man!! You always keep under 3k?
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post Jan 26 2011, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(claxxion @ Jan 25 2011, 05:03 PM)
Should be the SE. But since FL came out i wonder the SE's still in production or not... hmm.gif
If not it should be the M-line/Executive.
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So it's B-line, H-line, and M-line.. in this order?
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post Jan 26 2011, 02:20 PM

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The naming i think should go like this:

Proton saga
1. old saga
2. new saga

1. saga 1.5, 1.3 iswara, 1.3 LMST
2. BLM, FL

2. BLM - N-line, B-line, M-line and SE
2. FL - B-line, M-line (Executive)
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QUOTE(DaBestOne @ Jan 26 2011, 01:54 PM)
So it's B-line, H-line, and M-line.. in this order?
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BLM where got H-line... doh.gif

From lowest to highest should be

BLM N-line -> BLM B-line -> FL B-line-> BLM M-line -> BLM SE -> FL executive in terms of price and accesories.

Powerwise, same, 1.3 Campro IAFM

top speed wise, reverse the order, BLM N-line manual highest, because lightest amongs all Saga BLM/FL. maybe 5km/h faster laugh.gif

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What engine oil rating do most of you guys use?
Im currently using Nasa 10W-40 but from what i've read some said 10W-40 is considered thich and many would opt for 10W-30. But from what i think, 10W-30 is a little thin.
So?
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QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ Jan 26 2011, 10:08 AM)
Your FC is damn good, man!! You always keep under 3k?
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In city drives, yeah. Highways, sometimes I exceed 3k. I'm used being a light footer even when I was driving my previous ride. My friends even say I drive like a tortoise. tongue.gif

QUOTE(max_cjs0101 @ Jan 26 2011, 02:35 PM)
What engine oil rating do most of you guys use?
Im currently using Nasa 10W-40 but from what i've read some said 10W-40 is considered thich and many would opt for 10W-30. But from what i think, 10W-30 is a little thin.
So?
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10W-40 would be fine. I guess the 10W-30 is more suited for smaller engines, like in the kelisa. But then, you never know unless you try. smile.gif

My SC does not allow bringing in your engine oil, and they only provide petronas oils. The 15W-50 syntium seems so thick and heavy. But what to do, I have to retain the warranty for a little while for peace of mind.. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Aishinka @ Jan 26 2011, 12:26 AM)
Same thing i'm facing here. I just pumped full tank(from 2 bars) for RM55.20, and the car only travelled 214km, before hitting the 2 bar petrol mark. Why is this so, shouldn't i be getting like at least 400km? Since its like 13km++/l claimed by some people?
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dun worry, its bcos of the new engine been in breaking in process, and also lousy engine oil for the fist 1k km in order for it to break in, so will be more "thirsty" ... and please don't be afraid to rev ur engine hard enough during the 1st 1k km in order to break in b4 changing to a better engine oil after 1k service, this process is imp bcos it will decides the rest of your engine life to be power, fc , and lifespan of it.

btw me got my FL on 6th jan, rev gao2 b4 1k service.. haha "kiasu type".
then at 1st quite FC, then change @ 1k service liao... slow2 you will feel smoothy of your engine... feel it....
b4 1k service is suppose to be rough2 de ....
this is my exp, just to share


Added on January 26, 2011, 3:38 pm
QUOTE(Jet23sky @ Jan 26 2011, 11:03 AM)
o ya, before I get my new car. I wanna ask you pros here. Is there anything i need to purchase for my engine performance. I just purchased the roadtax stickers and the holder. Thanks.

(P/S: Only for performance and caretaking stuff, not those beutify accesseries like sport rim etc.  nod.gif )
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at or m?

if m then go adjust clutch height... ori is too high..

me also wanna adjust, and went to sc outside, but he say its at the end already so need to buka pump of it fro the engine side to adjust tht... and will do it only after cny.... sigh.... gonna wait... so long..

btw clutch too high drive till leg will cramp la...haha

This post has been edited by khiat999: Jan 26 2011, 03:38 PM
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QUOTE(claxxion @ Jan 26 2011, 03:21 PM)

10W-40 would be fine. I guess the 10W-30 is more suited for smaller engines, like in the kelisa. But then, you never know unless you try. smile.gif

My SC does not allow bringing in your engine oil, and they only provide petronas oils. The 15W-50 syntium seems so thick and heavy. But what to do, I have to retain the warranty for a little while for peace of mind.. sweat.gif
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My sc allows me to bring my own engine oil but they will write this at the booklet: "own engine oil".
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post Jan 26 2011, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(khiat999 @ Jan 26 2011, 03:29 PM)
dun worry, its bcos of the new engine been in breaking in process, and also lousy engine oil for the fist 1k km in order for it to break in, so will be more "thirsty" ... and please don't be afraid to rev ur engine hard enough during the 1st 1k km in order to break in b4 changing to a better engine oil after 1k service, this process is imp bcos it will decides the rest of your engine life to be power, fc , and lifespan of it.

btw me got my FL on 6th jan, rev gao2 b4 1k service.. haha "kiasu type".
then at 1st quite FC, then change @ 1k service liao... slow2 you will feel smoothy of your engine... feel it....
b4 1k service is suppose to be rough2 de ....
this is my exp, just to share
kinda agree wif u. i rev alot during early times. now my car at 16k mileage, although im driving auto, feels nice when driving alone (no extra weight) can feel the power.
120kmh @ 3700 rpm
140kmh @ 4200 rpm
160kmh @ 4700 rpm
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post Jan 26 2011, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(max_cjs0101 @ Jan 26 2011, 02:35 PM)
What engine oil rating do most of you guys use?
Im currently using Nasa 10W-40 but from what i've read some said 10W-40 is considered thich and many would opt for 10W-30. But from what i think, 10W-30 is a little thin.
So?
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for BLM, 10w40 is fine actually


Added on January 26, 2011, 3:53 pm
QUOTE(claxxion @ Jan 26 2011, 02:04 AM)
Our campro engines are thirsty engines, gearshifts needed to be done with the correct RPM, and a light foot is needed in order to achieve better FC. Mine auto, on average normal usage I get 320km for RM50. Full highway drive under the speed limit I get 413kms on a full tank, my record. laugh.gif
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wahhhh..that good bro.
u can drive under the spped limit in highway..salute u.hehe
my feet cannot tahan lerrr when in highway
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Added on January 26, 2011, 3:57 pm
QUOTE(17osm17 @ Jan 26 2011, 03:45 PM)
kinda agree wif u. i rev alot during early times. now my car at 16k mileage, although im driving auto, feels nice when driving alone (no extra weight) can feel the power.
120kmh @ 3700 rpm
140kmh @ 4200 rpm
160kmh @ 4700 rpm
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wahhh..yours only 16k mileage.dont rev so hard laaa..hehehehe

mine oredi 47k..
a lot of sound coming of the engine bay oredi.
lolx


Added on January 26, 2011, 3:58 pm
QUOTE(SiuYi @ Jan 26 2011, 02:20 PM)
The naming i think should go like this:

Proton saga
1. old saga
2. new saga

1. saga 1.5, 1.3 iswara, 1.3 LMST
2. BLM, FL

2. BLM - N-line, B-line, M-line and SE
2. FL - B-line, M-line (Executive)
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u can add one more
BLM LE (Limited edition)
lol rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

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Does anyone know if the Kesas CoSE allows people to bring their own engine oil?

I'm thinking of getting my own engine oil in when i service 10K next week. Theirs is expensive. sweat.gif

QUOTE(claxxion @ Jan 26 2011, 03:21 PM)
In city drives, yeah. Highways, sometimes I exceed 3k. I'm used being a light footer even when I was driving my previous ride. My friends even say I drive like a tortoise. tongue.gif
10W-40 would be fine. I guess the 10W-30 is more suited for smaller engines, like in the kelisa. But then, you never know unless you try. smile.gif

My SC does not allow bringing in your engine oil, and they only provide petronas oils. The 15W-50 syntium seems so thick and heavy. But what to do, I have to retain the warranty for a little while for peace of mind.. sweat.gif
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No wonder. You are damn patient, man. I can't stand it. It's like I'm being imprisoned. I'm a bird, let me fly!!!! laugh.gif

QUOTE(17osm17 @ Jan 26 2011, 03:45 PM)
kinda agree wif u. i rev alot during early times. now my car at 16k mileage, although im driving auto, feels nice when driving alone (no extra weight) can feel the power.
120kmh @ 3700 rpm
140kmh @ 4200 rpm
160kmh @ 4700 rpm
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Yeah man. When the car exceeds 3K rpm, it transforms into a devil, whispering in my ear,"Go faster!!! Go faster!!!" biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(max_cjs0101 @ Jan 26 2011, 03:41 PM)
My sc allows me to bring my own engine oil but they will write this at the booklet: "own engine oil".
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This is a sign that SC won't let you claim engine warranty if you are unlucky next time.
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QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ Jan 26 2011, 04:04 PM)
Does anyone know if the Kesas CoSE allows people to bring their own engine oil?

I'm thinking of getting my own engine oil in when i service 10K next week. Theirs is expensive. sweat.gif
No wonder. You are damn patient, man. I can't stand it. It's like I'm being imprisoned. I'm a bird, let me fly!!!! laugh.gif
Yeah man. When the car exceeds 3K rpm, it transforms into a devil, whispering in my ear,"Go faster!!! Go faster!!!" biggrin.gif
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yup i agree, rev it gao2... after 3k ++ rpm, campro starts to roar.... hail iafm campro... heehee


Added on January 26, 2011, 4:54 pm
QUOTE(Jet23sky @ Jan 26 2011, 11:03 AM)
o ya, before I get my new car. I wanna ask you pros here. Is there anything i need to purchase for my engine performance. I just purchased the roadtax stickers and the holder. Thanks.

(P/S: Only for performance and caretaking stuff, not those beutify accesseries like sport rim etc.  nod.gif )
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hm... me saga fl just ran 1.5k km, wanna add vs, ground cables also... and later ngk iridium plugs. maybe u can also try so...

also need pros outside to suggest.

This post has been edited by khiat999: Jan 26 2011, 04:54 PM
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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Jan 26 2011, 04:08 PM)
This is a sign that SC won't let you claim engine warranty if you are unlucky next time.
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I know.
The boss told me that if there's problem with your engine then we wont guarantee it.
I just made coolface.jpg and paid RM16 for other parts. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(max_cjs0101 @ Jan 26 2011, 05:02 PM)
I know.
The boss told me that if there's problem with your engine then we wont guarantee it. 
I just made coolface.jpg and paid RM16 for other parts.  biggrin.gif
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Tell ur SC to write 'brand (self purchase)' rather than 'own engine oil'. it sounds like made by 'max_cjs0101 Oil Company'... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(max_cjs0101 @ Jan 26 2011, 05:02 PM)
I know.
The boss told me that if there's problem with your engine then we wont guarantee it. 
I just made coolface.jpg and paid RM16 for other parts.  biggrin.gif
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just stick with manual book..should be ok...service your car on time is more important than how thick or thin the engine oil is..

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