Sharifah said its not gng

some info to share..

1. for spira, it will be sticker and hand waving concept..
2. there will be club house... fee to be imposed for membership
3. next phase launch will be just behind spira type D 22x75



This post has been edited by anti_gaara: Jan 21 2011, 07:58 PM

sure boh behind spira? u mean in front?

yup

There are still a lot of discussion on GNG, but in general, the recognized GNG should be on strata title. But for those which were built before would still be accepted. The second type of GNG is with individual title + DMC, although this is not as perfectly governed like the strata title type, this is still the majority of the so called GNG.

For Alam Impian TTDI, I think this is just a gated community (fenced up) + guarded. So, the challenge will be to collect money and take action against people not paying...the solution is to setup a RA and force every buyer to be part of the association. Well, the good thing is that, people who bought this place already understand that eventually they need to pay on their own....mentally prepared...of course...pyaing or not paying...that is another issue...

i heard in some places the RA or some cheeky residents actually paid someone to break into those ppl's houses who are not paying...not to steal anything, but just to 'teach' these stubborn lot...they will not know the difference with real or faked break-ins...next day for sure they pay one! haha

This post has been edited by jeffryjo69: Jan 22 2011, 03:35 AM

Haha. Quite cunning. But so like gansgterism tiga line type. Lol.

I dunno why ppl would be kedekut to pay for security. Tak syg anak2 or harta maybe?

if it is true the RA or residents plan & did such things,they're worse than robbers....may God The Almighty punish them back.

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Added on January 22, 2011, 3:51 pmI'm also dunno,but maybe they already invest in home alarm/security [normally for those who move in immediately when the house was ready,where the rest still playing waiting games who will move in first]

This post has been edited by salam03: Jan 22 2011, 03:52 PM

For this sort of project, i think generally should be fine (of course there will be trouble maker or people not accepting to pay). The reason is that, people from the very beginning already wel aware of this arrangement, and in fact some people prefer AI TTDI more than AI INP is just because of the GNG feature (at least it is properly fenced up, with added guard house and also 2 yrs maintenance free). Even wtih DMC or as strata title, sometimes, you still have issue with certain people not paying but giving all kinds of excuse.


If you want to be secure, you should ask Naza to organize a meeting and get at least a few owners to be part of the committee

[quote=salam03,Jan 22 2011, 03:46 PM]
if it is true the RA or residents plan & did such things,they're worse than robbers....may God The Almighty punish them back.

Bro why do u say they r worse than robbers? dont you think the ppl who doesnt want to pay also robbers in the sense that they are robbing the security need of others? what if because of them the whole gng plan is abandoned and actual robbery (got forbid murder & rape) happen in the community???

in this case what will you say to them if it happened to your family?

unless they have very good reasons to stay there, those not paying should move out asap.

to get clearer picture,my understanding was the said RA was set up based on housing area that develop using individual title...because of so much hassle,the government introduced strata title so that the housing area become a private area where visitor need to get permission to enter the area,road inside housing area consider as private road [individual title=public road within housing area]

my understand was the RA being setup by community,and for those who does'nt want to join RA/does'nt want to pay security fees etc etc,does RA got rights to take action against them...if the RA got rights to do so,hence why the action to do fake robbery ??? for me the action of fake robbery is both morally wrong & technically [by law] wrong......where as those who don't want to pay,they're morally wrong but technically rights [because of individual title status]

having said that,I do not condone act of avoid joining any RA/paying security fees etc etc,but to embarass/to do fake robbery is just too much.....

This post has been edited by salam03: Jan 22 2011, 08:57 PM

As i mentioned, the fake robber didnt steal anything...they just want to make a point that your house can be broken into even with alarm systems (i personally have experience in this)...whether it is right or wrong is another issue.....do u know that most break in cases will never be solved by the police??...good luck if u want to rely on them...its your house n your family that u need to protect by all means.

Apa la lu worang mau gaduh2? Duduk2 lah bincang elok2 nanti dah dpt kunci. Tak payah nak upah worang kasi break in itu rumah. Itu morally wrong and cannot be justified as well.

I'm sure everyone will setuju to chip in since the town very empty. Dun worry lah 2 years down the road, ppl will realise its important to pay for security.

true, many buy non- gng because no need to pay, nothing wrong right?

a bigger reason are the flippers - when they buy to flip, they have zero intention to pay anything.
if sold fast enough, ok... up to next owner to decide.

This post has been edited by AVFAN: Jan 23 2011, 06:53 AM

ie flippers ARE the troublemakers. LOL.

haha they really dun wanna pay anything...because they do not live there

Menegakkan benang basah...but why you need to do fake robbery to your neighbours??? it your neighbours for God Sake!!!

Now it does'nt matter wether it is right or wrong...so that youir neigbour can plan a fake robbery onto your house too is it...?

please la,just admit that your value system of fake robbery just purely a wrongdoings...fullstop..i rest my case.

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Added on January 23, 2011, 2:50 pmExactly my point.....

This post has been edited by salam03: Jan 23 2011, 02:50 PM

okay2 calm down everyone. it's wrong to fake a robbery. it's up to them wanna have guards or not. cant force ppl.

relax la bro...why r u guys so defensive?...im just sharing that this kind of thing is already happening in other developments and it will happen again in the future im sure... right or wrong is up to individuals to decide.

This post has been edited by jeffryjo69: Jan 23 2011, 08:15 PM

i went to see the Spira again today. guardhouse not yet done. dont expect to get your keys this coming week.