yeah the toll is such a turnoff and ZERO amenities. i also hope I&P can start selling the commercial area to big guns.

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Added on January 16, 2011, 8:55 pmlocation-wise alam impian is far superior than denai alam or setia alam. but setia alam is so fast developing. so im not sure about the building quality. i heard cracks everywhere. and setia alam dont come cheap anymore. (20x70) for 618k. this will make alam nusantara better option.

as for denai alam. it's far out. but the denai concept is beginning to attract buyers.

for alam impian, it's very slow-paced.

This post has been edited by jeghui: Jan 16 2011, 08:55 PM

I have been in one of I&P's township and seen it grow. They are usually slow-paced at the start. Half-way thru they suddenly pick-up pace especially when they start releasing the commercial units. Quite a responsible developer especially when I see some of the SPPK staffs in their ranks. Alam Impian has every bit SPPK's trademark DNA with covered drains huge parks and roads, generous pavements all along the road-side and the spacious feel. When all this has mature, every body will be wanting to stay in AI. I don't understand why they are reluctant to do the G&G concept. However, their design is such that there is only one acces road at each phase allowing guarded neighbourhood. I guess this is good for investors who does not have to pay for maintenance. Furthermore G&G requires strata title and 3 years to complete. Too long to wait....

Doesn't mean investment in the past will be repeating in the future. I had missed the investment at Setia Alam/Ecopark, but in my opinion the price already appreciated too much! Instead of purchasing Setia Alam, I bought a unit at Botanic which did not appreciate much!

I invested KU, 1st phase 22X75 at RM283k 5 years ago, current mkt price is RM550k. By comparison, I hope AI will provide a good investment return in 5 years time since there are no more development at KK/KU, except condo/service apartment etc. If your intention is to flip within 2-3years, I don't think AI is a good option. On the otherhsand, in my opinion, it is better for us to preserve our cash in bank! Waiting for development of RRI land at Sugai Buloh, service with MRT etc.

However, if it is for own stay, AI would be a wonderful place to stay. I made a challenging decision to to move from SS18, Subang Jaya to KK 10 yrs ago and there was no regret as my family is happy living in this township.

Well...i agree with you...however, the latest launches in Denai Alam already breached 700k...so i guess the number of people could invest there is slightly reduced, but in term of amenities or close proximity to other township e.g. dataran sunway is not that far....Well, Alam impian is not close to any interesting or hot township. No disrespect to the shah alam town but in term of entertainment, food, it is still pretty much not enough...

The klang river making access to alam impian slightly more challenging.

2 critical points for alam impian to make it ...... additional of major access road (in addition of LKSA) and secondly built up of amenities within the township....

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Added on January 16, 2011, 11:33 pmFully agree.... I think Sime Darby is better in developing township and has bigger marketing impact than I&P. To be honest...if you look at their website....really below par and like a kindergarten piece of work....masterplan also not clear, marketing also not enough... i am glad that at least they sold off 200arces of land to Naza TTDI...

Apart from that, i think at the point of 2009, the development pace of Denai alam was actually slightly ahead of alam impian in term of number of unit developed or so. Thirdly, to many people location wise Denai Alam could be better as it is closer to the other part of the KV while Alam Impian is right in the middle of shah alam....

This post has been edited by spydermind: Jan 16 2011, 11:33 PM

At least the AI toll is huge!!!

sloww weih development of AI... slowwww

Was at the soft launch at AI today. About 60+% take up. Quite a significant chinese turn up too. Tot this is a burmi dominated area. Around 45% non-bumi purchaser

good evaluation!

yes, location far or near is never a good thing to discuss too much since it all depends on where you're from and to everyday, where r frens-family.

there is one thing that is usually underestimated by singles or those w/o kids - schools. once the kids go to school, parents will do anything to get to this school or that school. so, for longer term stay, best to consider availability of national, cina, tamil, private, int'l school in the area. because 10 years from now, maybe no chance to buy new house in other place!!

any news about hand over keys ceremony? for Spira.

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Added on January 17, 2011, 9:46 amyou thought wrong. refer kemuning utama.

This post has been edited by jeghui: Jan 17 2011, 09:46 AM

Soft launch for which phase? TTDI or I&P?

I&P

From my observation, Kota Kemuning and Kemuning Utama comprise of 75% Chinese community. I am staying at earlier phase of Kemuning Utama, 90% is Chinese. Lately I met a non chinese property investor at one of the property seminar, he revealed to me one his important property investment criteria, one would never goes wrong to follow Chinese. He spot on Desa park city and Ecopark 3-4 years ago, made a substantial return from his two investments.

it is simply because chinese tend to invest/flip and they have the resources.

the bumis, even with the 7% discount, are not keen on property investment.

"syukurlah dgn apa ada..."

You are right, most of them are investor. More than 50% of property where I staying already changed hand! I have checked with few of my new neighbours as to why they moved to KU. The reason are good security (gated/ guarded), infrastructure and availability of school ( there are two chinese school located at KK and Jln kemuning.)

I think there is less "flippers" now due to the 70% LTV cap. The buyers I met are mainly for own stay, children or to hold for some years till the township matures. Tot the huge signage "Tapak Masjid" at the entrance will deter Chinese buyers....but I tot wrong again.

why?
why they also 4d, genting, stock market?
just gambling instinct or simply survival mode, forced to go whichver way is open since other opport are shut in their faces?

Yupp..the LTV 70% slowly make an impact,wait till RPGT come next year or after GE....

The "Tapak Masjid" signage only deter 'MCA Lawyer-man" and the likes,and then kowtow to PEKIDA & Majlis Ayahanda-Ayahanda and the likes... my wild guess

This post has been edited by salam03: Jan 18 2011, 07:19 PM

Masjid, Church and Temple are part of Malaysian culture. During prayer or festival, the noise level are higher/ traffic are chaotic. This is a good opportunity for us to practice our tolerance level. One should respect for individual freedom. However, everyone have to handle sensitive issue with the right frame of mind . It is common to hear Chinese complaint to Chinese Temple because of noise level! I still remember once Shah Alam Buddhist Association started 4 yrs ago at Bukit Rimau, they got the complaint from the neighbour ( due to noise level) who are a Chinese family.

Some mosques have really nice designs and can be an eye-catcher

yaya..such as this




worth RM10mil to build