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pyroboy1911
post Oct 16 2010, 07:14 PM

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If i remember correctly this issue was discussed briefly before, where it is said clothing is exempted tax. However jerseys are classes as sporting apparel...

don't take my words for it though, but i remember there is such discussions and that is what comes out from the discussion that i read.
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post Oct 16 2010, 07:35 PM

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QUOTE(pyroboy1911 @ Oct 16 2010, 07:14 PM)
If i remember correctly this issue was discussed briefly before, where it is said clothing is exempted tax. However jerseys are classes as sporting apparel...

don't take my words for it though, but i remember there is such discussions and that is what comes out from the discussion that i read.
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Hmmm... I tried to look for tariff code of sporting apparels, but couldn't find it. But the previous 20% import duty imposed to jersey is under shirts category, based on my customs form.

By the way, sports footwear's import duty also 0% now. Previously, it was 25%.
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post Oct 16 2010, 08:38 PM

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so if let's say, really no more sales tax/import duty (really don't really understand which is which) for football shirt/boots...will retail store lower their prices??
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post Oct 16 2010, 08:43 PM

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well for 1 if retailers were charged a lower tax (or no tax), then they can lower their price to attract more customers while maintaining their profit. i think this is also a good way to counter piracy since if the price is lower, then people might be more likely to buy fakes. no tax would also mean malaysian buyer need not worry about the RM500 limit anymore.

im no expert though so what i said is just my train of thoughts tongue.gif
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QUOTE(pyroboy1911 @ Oct 16 2010, 08:43 PM)
well for 1 if retailers were charged a lower tax (or no tax), then they can lower their price to attract more customers while maintaining their profit. i think this is also a good way to counter piracy since if the price is lower, then people might be more likely to buy fakes. no tax would also mean malaysian buyer need not worry about the RM500 limit anymore.

im no expert though so what i said is just my train of thoughts tongue.gif
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i agree with you on this bro...
IMO for some, really want to buy authentic shirts...but the price maybe a little turn off....
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post Oct 16 2010, 08:55 PM

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i mean the only reason one would buy fake over authentic is the price. which idiot will say they buy fake not because of price, but quality? or to support pirates? laugh.gif unless those involved in the piracy their abang/adik/pakcik/mak piah seberang jalan la...

but jersey RRP in Malaysia has always been RM259 and i do believe if they were exempted tax, they would keep the price that way and earn the extra profit themselves hmm.gif

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post Oct 16 2010, 09:41 PM

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then we should buy online and teach them a lesson for always wanting to make big profits.

better support other stores like kitbag, sportsdirect etc.
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post Oct 16 2010, 11:03 PM

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Anyone knows where to get a Samsung Suwon Bluewings shirt? I really like the design of it...lol..raked Ebay but couldn't find any..
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post Oct 17 2010, 06:23 AM

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Tried DIY my Liverpool size S jersey, but I made a mistake on the measures:

See how the distance between the name and number was kind of big?


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post Oct 17 2010, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(hcosimo @ Oct 17 2010, 06:23 AM)
Tried DIY my Liverpool size S jersey, but I made a mistake on the measures:

See how the distance between the name and number was kind of big?
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thats not too bad, no definite rule to say how big/small the distance is. even different clubs have different measurements, its all down to the kitman's work. In fact i think the arrangements of the letters are nice smile.gif
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post Oct 17 2010, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(pyroboy1911 @ Oct 17 2010, 10:52 AM)
thats not too bad, no definite rule to say how big/small the distance is. even different clubs have different measurements, its all down to the kitman's work. In fact i think the arrangements of the letters are nice smile.gif
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Agreed. Sometimes kitman ikut suka dia je.. I am still searching for a pictures. And for sleeve patches as well, different team put the sleeve patches differently. Some team a bit on top, some a bit below, some ngam2 center.


Added on October 17, 2010, 11:25 am
QUOTE(pyroboy1911 @ Oct 16 2010, 08:55 PM)
i mean the only reason one would buy fake over authentic is the price. which idiot will say they buy fake not because of price, but quality? or to support pirates? laugh.gif unless those involved in the piracy their abang/adik/pakcik/mak piah seberang jalan la...

but jersey RRP in Malaysia has always been RM259 and i do believe if they were exempted tax, they would keep the price that way and earn the extra profit themselves  hmm.gif
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Hm.. that would be the most probable case. Never mind, we still got kitbag.

This post has been edited by jenglots: Oct 17 2010, 11:25 AM
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post Oct 17 2010, 02:37 PM

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re kaka_89, from the recent pics you posted, I am of the view the shirts are fakes. I am very unwilling to share the information to you as I have more or less made up my mind that you are here (whether concioiusly / willingly or not i donno) to fish for information to improve the fakes which I must say are very good. Regretfully, I will be reporting your thread to Mods who I welcome to PM me for information on my conclusion, and let them decide. I can reveal to you there are 2 very visible errors in the shirts. I have had a quick discussion with some My-FJC members who share the same view.

Further, on a second look at the jerseys spread on the floor in your "cousin"'s pictures when he took the MU shirt, i can say most of them look fake to the naked eyes already based on the packaging etc.


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post Oct 17 2010, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(chcher @ Oct 17 2010, 02:37 PM)
re kaka_89, from the recent pics you posted, I am of the view the shirts are fakes. I am very unwilling to share the information to you as I have more or less made up my mind that you are here (whether concioiusly / willingly or not i donno) to fish for information to improve the fakes which I must say are very good. Regretfully, I will be reporting your thread to Mods who I welcome to PM me for information on my conclusion, and let them decide. I can reveal to you there are 2 very visible errors in the shirts. I have had a quick discussion with some My-FJC members who share the same view.

Further, on a second look at the jerseys spread on the floor in your "cousin"'s pictures when he took the MU shirt, i can say most of them look fake to the naked eyes already based on the packaging etc.
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you are most welcome to reveal the the errors bro..i think is fair to let the other forumer knew about it if you said so.....as i said, i have no intention to sells fake jersey..since i got it myself from my cuz who supplies licensed sports merchandise to retail stores in our country...the jersey had been proven ori by the ALI staffs itself who had been working there for almost several years..they said, i'm not the only person who came there to clarify the originality of fake jerseys..those jersey can be trace directly trough the tag number who is specially made for them to keep track on their jersey...i couldn't say more..i'm still waiting for other jersey to be delivered to me...perhaps, we can meet and you yourself can tell us..

regarding the pic on my cuz floor, i have no concern about it..it may or may not be fake...it may be taken from the warehouse..various packaging..? it may originally come from their suppliers which they haven't yet pack it in a proper packaging...we can't say more about that unless we go directly to their warehouse..

owhh..and i forgot to upload one more pic

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post Oct 17 2010, 04:01 PM

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Regarding the fake jersey issue, wanna clarify something. I recently bought a France home kit from Summit Adidas factory outlet. It cost me MYR111.90. So if I want to identify the authenticity, which website should I go to verify the barcode?
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QUOTE(Belphegor @ Oct 17 2010, 04:01 PM)
Regarding the fake jersey issue, wanna clarify something. I recently bought a France home kit from Summit Adidas factory outlet. It cost me MYR111.90. So if I want to identify the authenticity, which website should I go to verify the barcode?
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is the france home kit is the recent home kit, or it was previous year home kit..?..
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post Oct 17 2010, 08:43 PM

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QUOTE(kaka_89 @ Oct 17 2010, 03:31 PM)
you are most welcome to reveal the the errors bro..i think is fair to let the other forumer knew about it if you said so.....as i said, i have no intention to sells fake jersey..since i got it myself from my cuz who supplies licensed sports merchandise to retail stores in our country...the jersey had been proven ori by the ALI staffs itself who had been working there for almost several years..they said, i'm not the only person who came there to clarify the originality of fake jerseys..those jersey can be trace directly trough the tag number who is specially made for them to keep track on their jersey...i couldn't say more..i'm still waiting for other jersey to be delivered to me...perhaps, we can meet and you yourself can tell us..

regarding the pic on my cuz floor, i have no concern about it..it may or may not be fake...it may be taken from the warehouse..various packaging..? it may originally come from their suppliers which they haven't yet pack it in a proper packaging...we can't say more about that unless we go directly to their warehouse..

owhh..and i forgot to upload one more pic

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Maybe can forward your jersey to Adidas brand manager as verification of authenticity?
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post Oct 17 2010, 09:36 PM

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QUOTE(Belphegor @ Oct 17 2010, 04:01 PM)
Regarding the fake jersey issue, wanna clarify something. I recently bought a France home kit from Summit Adidas factory outlet. It cost me MYR111.90. So if I want to identify the authenticity, which website should I go to verify the barcode?
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No need to doubt bro. The Adidas FO there only sells original stuff. I believe its the France jersey during qualifying round.

Additional info, another Adidas Factory Outlet sells cut down price jersey is in Bangi and Shah Alam. The price normally Rm160 for short sleeve.
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post Oct 17 2010, 11:36 PM

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May i know how long should we wait until the stock is arrived at our door step when we purchased from Kitbag?

In my opinion, it's only worthwhile to purchase from kitbag if we put name and numberings. is this true?

Is the size from Kitbag and Malaysian stores is the same?
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post Oct 17 2010, 11:49 PM

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QUOTE(asimo_xd @ Oct 17 2010, 11:36 PM)
May i know how long should we wait until the stock is arrived at our door step when we purchased from Kitbag?

In my opinion, it's only worthwhile to purchase from kitbag if we put name and numberings. is this true?

Is the size from Kitbag and Malaysian stores is the same?
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It depends on what shipping option that you choose,

for standard delivery: 7-14 days
for UPS express delivery: 3-5 days

Not necessary that you must buy shirt together with NNs then its consider worthwhile, just the shirt only is cheaper than in MY as well. For BPL, the NNs print that Kitbag use is PU plastic material(we call it replica size NNs), which is smaller and different material than the NNs print use in actual BPL match, which is velvet felt material and larger in size (Player size NNs). The NNs that you can find locally is Player size, i assumend most people here prefer to apply the player size version.

If you are buying shirts with NNs for other leagues or national team, then you can simply purchase from kitbag, no size or material difference

The size is the same smile.gif
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QUOTE(lit_ching @ Oct 17 2010, 11:49 PM)
It depends on what shipping option that you choose,

for standard delivery:  7-14 days
for UPS express delivery: 3-5 days

Not necessary that you must buy shirt together with NNs then its consider worthwhile, just the shirt only is cheaper than in MY as well. For BPL, the NNs print that Kitbag use is PU plastic material(we call it replica size NNs), which is smaller and different material than the NNs print use in actual BPL match, which is velvet felt material and larger in size (Player size NNs). The NNs that you can find locally is Player size, i assumend most people here prefer to apply the player size version.

If you are buying shirts with NNs for other leagues or national team, then you can simply purchase from kitbag, no size or material difference

The size is the same smile.gif
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nice answer bro thumbup.gif

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