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kaka_89
post Oct 12 2010, 08:08 PM

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is this fake..?

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post Oct 12 2010, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(ReBeLLioN @ Oct 12 2010, 09:29 PM)
i just saw the tag around colar not centre also edy know its fake..
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which tag bro..?..


Added on October 12, 2010, 9:54 pm
QUOTE(teckhooi @ Oct 12 2010, 09:32 PM)
Where U Got This Kit?
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cousin give me..?..what do you think..?..is it ori..?..

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post Oct 12 2010, 11:07 PM

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QUOTE(pyroboy1911 @ Oct 12 2010, 11:04 PM)
looks ok to me, quite similar to the home kit that i have. if you wanna confirm, u see the PO# number on the barcode tag? it should tally with the back of the collar tag (where the suqare box barcode is present).
tq bro..i just checked it..the bar code number is the same.. smile.gif ..so, is original.smile.gif..

i want to sell it..anyone want.. tongue.gif

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post Oct 13 2010, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(iswandi7 @ Oct 13 2010, 12:25 PM)
HI bro,

sorry if i may add.

But from my view, these are fakes...got some flaws to it when compared closely.
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what flows bro..may you highlight it to me... biggrin.gif
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post Oct 13 2010, 08:31 PM

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[quote=iswandi7,Oct 13 2010, 04:14 PM]sorry to say bro but am very reluctant to do so because you seems to sell fake jerseys already from previous threads. Which has just been closed by the mod...

these are clear fakes
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yes, i'm selling gred AAA last time, but this time i'm dealing with a sub-vendor for al-ikhasan products..no more imitation products...

if you not certain of what i'm selling, we can meet and i can clarify to you...i think that is more fair..

no point discussing it here since it needs more than eye to clarify it..



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post Oct 13 2010, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(CTU @ Oct 13 2010, 10:38 PM)
i thought u got that Real Madrid shirt form ur cousin? ur cousin is a sub-vendor for al ikhsan product?

not to be rude or disrespectful, but please do explain some of ur comments
i see that u are asking opinions on whether the shirt is ori or fake..its good if that shirt is ori and u are asking our opinion but on the flip side though, with ur history of selling fake shirts, I can also say u wanna get the opinions of sifus here whether that shirt is ori (when in reality u know its fake)
n we here in LYN also have to be careful sharing info about ori shirts as there might be pirate makers in here picking up the info to make their fake as identical as possible to the ori

im sorry if u feel im saying bad things bout u but u did give us this prior perception of urself
dont hold any grudges biggrin.gif
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yes, my cousin is the sub-vendor for selling al-ikhsan products..he actually had bought so many jersey back home and just pass one real madrid away to me..

i'm asking you guys because i have another authentic barcelona home jersey which i bought originally from Barcelona, Nou Camp..there are no different in terms of quality between the two jersey at all..i've checked detail on both, both is the same..only i noticed that the shape of a rectangular on the LA LIGA patches on the right shoulder is a bit different..all is the same, the way the other patches has been embroidered is the same...

i just curious that how come an authentic jersey from al-ikhsan can't be an ori jersey..??..that's why i just assumed it is ori since one of the former here asked me to checked the tag number with the one on the neck, and is the same..
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post Oct 14 2010, 12:04 AM

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QUOTE(iswandi7 @ Oct 13 2010, 11:56 PM)
bro, i suggest you stop using a reputable store's name to associate your jerseys with them. This is another matter altogether. Plus you got no rights to it and before you know it they might just take action against you if all these that you have suggested goes against their store.

bro Chcher already mentioned the fact that there isn't any sub vendor or such. Of the many members here, he should know best... brows.gif

And, fakes are all over the world bro. No guarantee those selling in big reputable stadiums is the real deal. In fact Nike is trying to tackle this problem already. To cater to lower end of the official fans replica segment. So no need to go to Spain to prove otherwise.
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you think i'm making stories is it..?..that's why i don't want to mentioned at all where is the source of this jersey..coz people still will questioned about it..is okay...

i can prove it to you the one that i bought in Barcelona is the same as the real madrid away that i show..

p/s, btw, who has the original latest barcelona home jersey..i would like to compare it with mine..i'm just curios because the one that i bought is still from thailand..!!


Added on October 14, 2010, 12:07 am
QUOTE(CTU @ Oct 14 2010, 12:01 AM)
well i have just seen ur thread and ur selling for RM180..u list down the jerseys that u are selling..mostly BPL teams yet u show the real madrid shirt..better u show pictures of the BPL jerseys u are offering..show everything inside out and maybe then people will try and believe it is authentic..ur history goes against u here so it would be wiser 4 u to prove that u are innocent or otherwise..words count for very little im afraid
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i'm showing off the real madrid jersey because the only one that i have in my hand..all the other jersey is kept in the warehouse somewhere in johore..

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post Oct 14 2010, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(iswandi7 @ Oct 14 2010, 12:15 AM)
nobody even asked you about the source of your jerseys bro. You clearly stated it in your own accord. Plus i didn't based it on this reference and no mentioned of it were even there when you first posted on the Real Madrid jersey.

And who is the king of fakes stuff in our region, we all know that...!
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hahaha..dats why la i would like to convince you all..haishhh..

btw, who got the barcelona home jersey..??..i really would like to compare..
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post Oct 14 2010, 12:55 AM

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QUOTE(CTU @ Oct 14 2010, 12:50 AM)
bro..i suggest u get some samples of those jerseys that are in some warehouse in Johor and post the pics here..because u are selling those jerseys not the Barcelona jersey..u cant compare jerseys to see if it is authentic.. we need the proof that the jerseys u are selling are authentic..if it is proven to be authentic, many will buy with u so no harm done..
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okay i will post more, since i just got real madrid away now..
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post Oct 14 2010, 01:14 AM

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QUOTE(lit_ching @ Oct 14 2010, 12:53 AM)
I have blaugana home shirt for this season on hand, may be you can post your shirt pictures up here. Btw, its made in Thailand smile.gif

One more thing, just curious, how could you compare a Nike made shirt to a Adidas made shirt for authenticity? smile.gif
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there you go..

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what about yours..?
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post Oct 14 2010, 01:31 AM

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QUOTE(lit_ching @ Oct 14 2010, 01:23 AM)
The blaugana shirt's that i have has the same characteristics that shown in the pictures.

Unfortunately, as other Taikos mentioned, this is just for the blaugana shirt, i don't have knowledge to verify adidas shirt though smile.gif
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does your jersey have the wording as the second last pic..show me...
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post Oct 14 2010, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(dxjb @ Oct 14 2010, 02:19 AM)
the issue here was the real madrid shirt..was it authentic or not and so on..comparing a Nike Barcelona shirt with an adidas Real Madrid shirt cannot say conclusively whether the Real shirt is authentic even though it has the same characteristics..now lets see where we are at..

1. Barca shirt is definitely authentic..
2. What about the Real Madrid shirt that u got from ur cousin?
3. What about the BPL+Serie A+ La Liga shirt that u are selling for RM180 that is currently in a warehouse somewhere in Johor and comes from ur cousin who is 'an al-ikhsan sub-vendor'?

I think there was never any doubt about the Barca shirt since u said u buy at Camp Nou Barcelona, but the big question is the Real and other BPL shirts that u are selling.. icon_idea.gif

Sorry mate if everyone here is skeptical of u..u just have to bear with it because of ur past actions..im sure if u can prove ur other shirts are authentic, it will clear ur name.. nod.gif
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yes, i do understand the consequences..

sure, i will ask him to bring more jersey so i can clarify here..but, for now, i just have the real madrid jersey in my hand..
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post Oct 14 2010, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(schmeichel7 @ Oct 14 2010, 11:58 AM)
Last time it was very easy to differentiate a fake jersey and an authentic jersey by it's barcode sticker and style code.

Now.. one thing that I am still relieve is that these fakes still don't come in XXL or XXXL. But it might be temporarily only...

From what I've seen since last 2 seasons.. the fakers have gone one step front by imitating the barcode sticker and inner tags. This is very easy to them nowadays because... blame it both on Nike and adidas themselves. Why? Because they both outsourced their factories producing original replica jerseys at Thailand and China.

Authentic Man United's 09-10 away and goalkeeper shirts are all made in Thailand. Authentic World Cup Japan home shirt is Made in Thailand. Liverpool's jerseys are Made in China.

This has opened a window of opportunity for these fakers to produce these so called grade AAA fakes. And thanks to people who really don't bother at all to save money and buy them. I really don't care if they want to buy these fakes because it's their own money. But you're encouraging these fakers and making others who are interested to get the real stuff, our lives even harder.

The fakers now have produced a barcode sticker using one sample. For adidas, they imitated Real Madrid's away while for nike, they imitated Barcelona's home....

And also to add to what kaka_89 said about being sub-vendor to al-ikhsan.. They only get the stocks directly from adidas and nike. No such thing as sub vendor. The supplier's regional HQ is at Hong Kong. Distribution goes to ASEAN region of philippines, brunei, vietnam, singapore, thailand, indonesia and malaysia. What you see here are the same elsewhere at other ASEAN countries. I've confirmed this with one of the senior employees at al-ikhsan.
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to be exact the guy is actually deals with al-ikhsan..maybe is my fault when i just assume that he is a sub-vendor for al-ikhsan..but it certain now, he say that the stock were taken from singapore and their warehouse is somewhere in jb..

i can't reveal more on the info of from where is the source, because i may jeopardize someone career...
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post Oct 14 2010, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(azuansabri @ Oct 14 2010, 03:41 PM)
Aik, sudah tukar ka?
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what do u mean sudah tukar bro..??..you think i'm playing with word is it..i tell u what, is better to just meet me and you decide it for yourself..no point i write so many words here..

and btw, since many of you might want to know the different between ori or not, look at the badges and patches..i've seen both, so far, i haven't see any fakes jersey with detailed patches, hopes that helps..
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QUOTE(azuansabri @ Oct 14 2010, 03:56 PM)
You keep changing your stories everytime you kantoi. How could people believe you?

And I think there is no point to meet up since you have only that Real Madrid away jersey for reference. You should have ready stock first, i.e. other shirts that you are selling so that people can verify whether you are a genuine seller.
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i would probably dealing with someone after this..

i might asked to him to post with some testimonials here..i think that is the best for now..
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post Oct 14 2010, 11:44 PM

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just want to share...

i just went to ALI to clarify things with them...i've bought the real madrid jersey together with me... i called several of the staff to help me compared with the one they are selling..and it was 100% similar and original..

they do a bar code check on the tag, and the jersey detail comes out including the price too...when looking at the price, i felt like i wanna change the price.. tongue.gif ..they did mentioned too that this jersey was originally from Adida$..they knew it from the tag that was scanned..they even told me that, fake jersey does haven't a valid tag number..so i guess, if you want to know the status of your jersey, you can bring them scan to ALI or any boutiques..

i can't show you the other jersey, because i didn't hold any stocks...(currently i only have the real madrid away jersey), if you kind a interested to buy, the deal goes like this

1. tell me what jersey you want trough PM or by commenting on my thead( pls refer to the latest stock list that i have posted in my siggy)
2. i collect some deposit from you
3. i'll be waiting for the jersey to be delivered to me
4. we meet, and i collect the balances...

i think i have made my effort to convince all the forumers here..
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post Oct 15 2010, 11:22 AM

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some pic from my cuz..man utd home

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post Oct 16 2010, 12:27 AM

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QUOTE(schmeichel7 @ Oct 15 2010, 01:06 PM)
One more photo you forgot to take.. the club crest.

That one.. so far the fakers are unable to make as good as the authentic.

But the barcode sticker kantoi already... looks fake to me.

Yours is 8 23229 20940 1 and is 100% same with the barca one. Only same man utd shirt with same size has the same barcode serial number.

And I sense that the colour code is 4xx is normally colour code for blue coloured kits... man united's blue third kit was 408. That one was meant to be barca's colour code. Man united should be 6xx.

One more thing.. your jersey's white nike tag inside the shirt (beneath the washing tags).. It has barcode serial number 823229289885.

First, it doesn't tally with the barcode sticker.

Second it is 100% the same as the one shown at the white nike tag on the fake jersey photo (XL size) that azuansabri showed. It cannot be like because different sizes for the same jersey have different barcode serial numbers.
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i went to ALI for the second time, they told me that they also sometimes receive a jersey with a tag number that is different with the one inside the shirt..sometimes the shirt can be considered as rejected jersey...ALI told me that, the bar code actually was not their concern, bar code is used for only price determination and can be identical with any jerseys...if you had noticed, they actually covered their bar codes with their own price tag(the one with orange in color price tag)..and asked them why..?..

they mentioned that they keep track only on the tag number beneath the shirt because that is was meant to be for them(records) and also it was from sports manufactures HQ(Adidas, Nike, etc)..you cannot lie on those tag code bro because it was issued by the HQ itself...i asked them to scan the tag number for the RM away jersey and also Man Utd Jersey..

this came out on their records

RM away jersey : tag code P0#101599596 (same as the bar code)
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Man Utd Home kit : tag code 382469-623, 823229289885
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and yet the bar code is meant to be for size S which is true for the man utd home..(and yes the jersey with one with size XL is fake)..

they told me that they jersey is all authentic and original..

if you are telling me that all those jersey are fake, now, you consider what have the ALI staffs had told me..they not concern about the bar code..i'm telling you this because i'm actually would like want to sell what ALI is selling..so, if you said that is fake, that means all this while ALI is selling fake jerseys...??..

so far, i cannot say much more because my cuz is away..still waiting for his explanation, and oh ya, and ALI also told me that they actually had their own local distro( maybe my cuz is one of them) which was not mainly for ALI, but also for other boutiques like adidas, nike, royal sport and etc...ALI is just a store who actually helps to promotes adidas and nike stuffs..




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post Oct 16 2010, 12:43 AM

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QUOTE(azuansabri @ Oct 16 2010, 12:41 AM)
First you said, you don't have the stock. All the shirts are with your cousin in Johor. And the pictures of Manchester United home shirt are from him. Now suddenly, you have that shirt and bring it to ALI to be scanned.

I don't want to elaborate more. I'm just sick and tired with your everchanging story. Enough said.
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is based on the previous page that i gave la...pls read before ok..i just bring the tag number..
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QUOTE(azuansabri @ Oct 16 2010, 01:21 AM)
Okay then your story does not prove that you are selling original jersey at all.
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bro..if you have nothing to say or an opinion is better to just kept quite...you are not helping at all..

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